Ben Shapiro vs Destiny Debate: Politics, Jan 6, Israel, Ukraine & Wokeism | Lex Fridman Podcast

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Lex Fridman

Lex Fridman

Күн бұрын

Ben Shapiro is a conservative political commentator, host of The Ben Shapiro Show, co-founder of The Daily Wire, and author of The Authoritarian Moment and other books. Steven Bonnell, aka Destiny, is a liberal political commentator and a live streamer on KZfaq.
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TRANSCRIPT:
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Ben's X: / benshapiro
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Destiny's X: / theomniliberal
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Destiny's Website: destiny.gg
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
1:36 - Liberalism vs Conservatism
6:49 - Education
23:06 - Trump vs Biden
43:31 - Foreign policy
56:28 - Israel-Palestine
1:11:25 - Russia-Ukraine
1:23:04 - January 6
1:39:03 - Abuse of power
1:49:01 - Wokeism
1:55:42 - Institutional capture
2:09:36 - Monogamy vs open relationships
2:14:29 - Rapid fire questions
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@lexfridman
@lexfridman 3 ай бұрын
Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors below. Transcript: lexfridman.com/ben-shapiro-destiny-debate-transcript 0:00 - Introduction 1:36 - Liberalism vs Conservatism 6:49 - Education 23:06 - Trump vs Biden 43:31 - Foreign policy 56:28 - Israel-Palestine 1:11:25 - Russia-Ukraine 1:23:04 - January 6 1:39:03 - Abuse of power 1:49:01 - Wokeism 1:55:42 - Institutional capture 2:09:36 - Monogamy vs open relationships 2:14:29 - Rapid fire questions Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast: - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - Policygenius: policygenius.com/lex - ExpressVPN: expressvpn.com/lexpod to get 3 months free - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off
@_ampersand
@_ampersand 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again, Lex!
@Meh-im1qs
@Meh-im1qs 3 ай бұрын
WE LOVE YOU LEX
@BBBob123
@BBBob123 3 ай бұрын
OOOO
@bigguy4x418
@bigguy4x418 3 ай бұрын
Love you, Lex!!! This is great!! Thank you so much for putting this together!!!
@dorado2431
@dorado2431 3 ай бұрын
Love you Lex
@andreasesser4641
@andreasesser4641 3 ай бұрын
Left vs. Right. Conservative vs. Progressive. Democrat vs Republican. Theist vs Atheist. Traditionalist vs Modernist. Man's name vs Woman's name. This debate truly encapsulated a lot. Thanks Lex.
@user-ce1zb9vb9b
@user-ce1zb9vb9b 3 ай бұрын
Yes but the man woman shit
@johng9095
@johng9095 3 ай бұрын
​@@QueefMcGeesHousehes connected because hes jewish? Smh
@PerfectHandProductions
@PerfectHandProductions 3 ай бұрын
Stripper* name
@othosos
@othosos 3 ай бұрын
Imagine being on the side of the guy whos wife is currently getting resized 🤣@@QueefMcGeesHouse
@Winalot
@Winalot 3 ай бұрын
@@QueefMcGeesHouse so i guess you're literally still flipping burgers or throwing newspapers on a bike like you did at your first job you tried to make by .. you are pathetic, i bet if you sit to debate face to face you begin to stutter and shake lol
@viziontrex
@viziontrex 3 ай бұрын
Lex hosting the SuperBowl for nerds is a great gift to us all
@nayfanjay9401
@nayfanjay9401 3 ай бұрын
Yeah boi!
@dorothyclark8680
@dorothyclark8680 3 ай бұрын
YESYESYES
@jackf2210
@jackf2210 3 ай бұрын
exactly how i thought of it😂
@watchitallburn
@watchitallburn 3 ай бұрын
sadly destiny is like an expansion team that somehow ends up playing the patriots in this "superbowl"
@matthewparlato5626
@matthewparlato5626 3 ай бұрын
This was dogshit. Malcom Collins, the Venture Capitalist Stanford Grad Pro-Natalist would eviscerate BOTH of these clowns. js
@DerekFuller77
@DerekFuller77 Ай бұрын
Now this is how a real debate works. No talking over one another, no insults, just pure conversation between two different sides.
@79chgoh
@79chgoh 20 күн бұрын
I never saw Ben under so much pressure before
@dingickso4098
@dingickso4098 13 күн бұрын
Rarely see that on the narcissist internet
@teakchain0145
@teakchain0145 6 күн бұрын
You need to be really cult and smart to have this kind of conversation i can't have this profound conversation
@johnwilliams9296
@johnwilliams9296 4 күн бұрын
Because they mostly agree and ben is not a crazy redhat
@Aruesx
@Aruesx Күн бұрын
If you're interested in debates that aren't bloodsports or constant yelling, I recommend you check out some debate issues universities hold. They have people from college students, all the way to tenured professors and experts.
@datrumpet5
@datrumpet5 Ай бұрын
I had to double-check my KZfaq settings because I thought I had set the play mode to 1.5x speed 😂
@FrozenPantiezzz
@FrozenPantiezzz 21 күн бұрын
2:56 this part had me too 😂
@mikisuave
@mikisuave 14 күн бұрын
Same!
@marvelousmike5488
@marvelousmike5488 9 күн бұрын
.75x is just right
@danielcastro3622
@danielcastro3622 7 күн бұрын
These guys need some bass in their voices lol I think Ben talks through his nose a lot
@KrisMaertens
@KrisMaertens 7 күн бұрын
​@@marvelousmike5488yes,than they speak like normal humans.
@LetsReadPodcast
@LetsReadPodcast 3 ай бұрын
Playing this at 0.25x speed so I can follow 👂 👂
@zkilla2924
@zkilla2924 3 ай бұрын
Weird seeing you here man lmao didnt know you were based like that
@blazingstar9638
@blazingstar9638 3 ай бұрын
😂😂 right
@ravenclaw1985
@ravenclaw1985 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@rodriguezk96
@rodriguezk96 3 ай бұрын
Heyyy it's you I love your channel
@tiffanie7139
@tiffanie7139 3 ай бұрын
lol exactly. I usually watch everything on 1.75 and these 2 are about the only people I cannot do that with. 😂
@Tooldruid
@Tooldruid 3 ай бұрын
This might be the single best debate in the last year. No yelling, very few interruptions, solid moderator, many topics discussed. A debate that's actually not enraging or frustrating to watch.
@AlexHenry-hh8yj
@AlexHenry-hh8yj 3 ай бұрын
Very true, most people are incapable of doing this
@SBoss281
@SBoss281 3 ай бұрын
You clearly don’t consume much content then
@rebhi8
@rebhi8 3 ай бұрын
Destiny isn’t a true representative of the Palestinian cause
@TheWhisperingPenis
@TheWhisperingPenis 3 ай бұрын
Yeah its 2 people that respect each other beforehand. I think that has a lot to do with it. Both fully realize the other one isn't an idiot.
@LoudWaffle
@LoudWaffle 3 ай бұрын
@@rebhi8 That’s correct because he’s openly pro-Israel 🤨
@ericruth133
@ericruth133 Ай бұрын
I'm less than one hour in and I already feel like this should be mandatory viewing for all high school seniors. The level of intellect, the respectful discourse, the deep understanding of issues...all are so good. This is what debate should look like. Thanks Lex for making this happen.
@keycuz
@keycuz Ай бұрын
I'm 52 seconds in, I already feel these guys are not going to debate anything worth debating.
@jack-of-all-trades1234
@jack-of-all-trades1234 Ай бұрын
Destiny unwittingly damaged his argument that Trump seriously planned an insurrection by pointing out that none of Trump's own picks actually supported his election contentions. A true insurrectionist would have picked the right people to carry out his demands the first time.
@retror.d.1630
@retror.d.1630 Ай бұрын
No it shouldn’t. This was too one sided because Destiny is pretty much a Right winger.
@revmsj
@revmsj Ай бұрын
@@retror.d.1630and you are obviously insane
@JJ-sn1wn
@JJ-sn1wn Ай бұрын
@@revmsjDestiny is most definitely not really on the left, he’s center at BEST
@jaredaponte9973
@jaredaponte9973 27 күн бұрын
This honestly has to be one of my favorite debates for destiny and ben. It felt like two people actually having a conversation rather than the huge spectacle i feel like everyone else is trying to put on usually. Neither of them attacked or insulted the other and i got to just genuinely hear two different perspectives and thats all i want
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
Thank you, 100%.
@user-eh6ih4ev5e
@user-eh6ih4ev5e 6 күн бұрын
Together, these two guys could probably come up with some great solutions to the issues they debated on.
@seanmcconnell1874
@seanmcconnell1874 3 ай бұрын
This is 100x better than any presidential debate will ever be
@dannyboyrobb
@dannyboyrobb 3 ай бұрын
This should be the presidential debate!
@IronBrigadeStudios
@IronBrigadeStudios 3 ай бұрын
If trump is allowed to gish gallop again it'll be 1,000,00x better
@dadnonlyd3
@dadnonlyd3 3 ай бұрын
Because presidential debates are just political theatre
@presssquareproductions2303
@presssquareproductions2303 3 ай бұрын
gish gallop ... ​@@IronBrigadeStudios
@Quisl
@Quisl 3 ай бұрын
Its not so unlikely that either of these guys might do down that road in 20 or 30 years.
@TadasTadeo
@TadasTadeo 3 ай бұрын
The friendliest rap battle I've seen
@letyvasquez2025
@letyvasquez2025 3 ай бұрын
Toe to toe Curly and Moe Gonna find a foe Like a Will Dafoe Represent…tation
@aaz1992
@aaz1992 3 ай бұрын
😂
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 3 ай бұрын
HA 😂😂
@bepsi8700
@bepsi8700 2 ай бұрын
bro this literally was hydrogen vs boost translated
@frankkirkman5994
@frankkirkman5994 7 күн бұрын
Lil dicky vs G-eazy
@lancelipperman2238
@lancelipperman2238 Ай бұрын
Great to finally see a calm, factual debate. Thanks Lex, would love to see another round (different topics)
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
💯.
@tropicenergy8893
@tropicenergy8893 5 күн бұрын
Notice how both of them take a second to respond. That is them thinking about what the other said instead of immediately denying or disagreeing. This does not happen in normal debates. Sad.
@danielebeddia8910
@danielebeddia8910 3 ай бұрын
It’s actually insane how much more respectful and mature this was than the past few presidential debates
@poet99999
@poet99999 3 ай бұрын
Long form, not just trying to grab legacy media sound bites
@baseguitar02
@baseguitar02 3 ай бұрын
this is just a fun debate, presidential debate is more like selling yourself to the world so the people vote for you so it becomes more like making the other person look bad and stupid
@miyojewoltsnasonth2159
@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 3 ай бұрын
@@poet99999 I prefer watching videos that are at least an hour. But what percentage of people _prefer_ long form? Sadly, it's probably less than half of people, likely even less. *Reply to:* _"Long form, not just trying to grab legacy media sound bites"_
@dipset4016
@dipset4016 3 ай бұрын
Damn imagine this presidential race haha.
@navinnarayan1978
@navinnarayan1978 3 ай бұрын
Destiny is not at the same level as Ben.
@wolfgang1667
@wolfgang1667 3 ай бұрын
If only presidential debates were this substantive and good faith. This is what America needs.
@SMMC333
@SMMC333 3 ай бұрын
imagine what cultural standards would change if this was the case. the bar for knowledge would be so much higher for knowledge. as of now its just a bunch of black and white buzz word cesspool word vomiting online. this type of dialogue needs to be on the main stage.
@connerfreeman9609
@connerfreeman9609 3 ай бұрын
They used to be. Watch Kenny vs. Nixon 1960.
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat
@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat 3 ай бұрын
America doesn't vote for nerds. The last time we elected a nerd was Nixon.
@callumengland6395
@callumengland6395 3 ай бұрын
For real... the presidential debates aren't even debates
@str-AH
@str-AH 3 ай бұрын
3000% if you didn't say it, I would have. This is what we should champion.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun Ай бұрын
1:25:04 something about seeing Ben Shapiro smiling at Destiny's commentary here is quite heartwarming. Really get the impression that both are enjoying the debate.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun Ай бұрын
2:14:40 here too 😂
@artrex5481
@artrex5481 Ай бұрын
I definitely think after this they’ll continue to communicate and maybe even build a friendship, they see more eye to eye than I thought they would.
@hipunpun
@hipunpun Ай бұрын
@@artrex5481 I really hope to see more shared content from them as I really enjoyed this debate!
@artrex5481
@artrex5481 Ай бұрын
@@hipunpun have you watched the Jordan Peterson one? That one was more fun in my opinion than this one to watch, they get a little fiery at points, but are able to reel it in and in the end the even acknowledged those moments during a topic regarding force vs justice and emotional outburst in interpersonal relationships, very entertaining
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 23 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed that too! Thanks for the recommend! (Also watched Destiny talk about his Shapiro debate and how they took pics & exchanged contact numbers after.)
@Joyloulou
@Joyloulou Ай бұрын
Thank you for this content❤ it is so so necessary to “Keep it in the Conversation”
@Crimea_River
@Crimea_River 3 ай бұрын
This is the longest I've listened to Ben speak without hearing an ad read.
@gmancolo
@gmancolo 3 ай бұрын
Benji is a real money grubber and he's promoted outright scams.
@burtbiggum499
@burtbiggum499 3 ай бұрын
​@@gmancolo Well yeah just look at his tiny hat
@lunarvania8073
@lunarvania8073 3 ай бұрын
Did you make this comment at work? If so I guess you and Ben can relate.
@delightlatte7371
@delightlatte7371 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@juicewilliss
@juicewilliss 3 ай бұрын
Quick you can still get these special addition gold coins from the U-S mint. Only with this special offer can you dump all your life savings on this once in a lifetime super-duper for realsies! deal of the century! Hurry before your evil gay loving liberal kids tell you it's a scam cause they hate freedom!!
@SimplyWalkTheTalk
@SimplyWalkTheTalk 3 ай бұрын
LEX HOLD MORE DEBATES PLEASE, THIS COUNTRY NEEDS THIS! 🎙️ MUCH APPRECIATED 🇺🇸☮️
@jpg6113
@jpg6113 3 ай бұрын
Have Nick Fuentes on
@nooftaheri3502
@nooftaheri3502 3 ай бұрын
There are limits. ​@@jpg6113
@huntersowers7404
@huntersowers7404 3 ай бұрын
​@@jpg6113 yep, because listening to Ben Shapiro and destiny for more than 5 minutes didn't already cost me enough brain cells.
@user-iv1bv6kv6x
@user-iv1bv6kv6x 3 ай бұрын
​@@jpg6113ew no
@winnablepeach135
@winnablepeach135 3 ай бұрын
Debate is not the end game of conversation you think it is. There’s no saving this country
@fineyoungspecimen
@fineyoungspecimen Ай бұрын
Battle of the fastest talking androids
@charongold6532
@charongold6532 9 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@theflyingemu3647
@theflyingemu3647 Ай бұрын
in my opinion Lex is the real MVP here. This is the first i have watched, and now have subscribed. i have never and i mean never seen a debate handled with such care and neutrality. It might not look like he does not do much but the man has reached the level cap in facilitation. I think that bad debates can be attributed to poor one sided facilitation and or cutting in and stopping the arguing party mid argument, it breeds frustration and can affect the mental state and the clear thinking of the debaters. Bravo I absolutely loved it.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
YES!! ❤️
@yellomoth
@yellomoth 3 ай бұрын
This debate is 2 hours long but if you factor in relative talking speed it's really a six hour debate.
@gabrielmarinho6569
@gabrielmarinho6569 3 ай бұрын
👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kzryzstof
@kzryzstof 3 ай бұрын
You are not wrong.
@instantregret7858
@instantregret7858 3 ай бұрын
Hyperbolic Debate Chamber
@AureliusX
@AureliusX 3 ай бұрын
true
@Outlawstar0198
@Outlawstar0198 3 ай бұрын
​@@instantregret7858hyperbolic lion tamer
@grayhamgrayhamson1466
@grayhamgrayhamson1466 3 ай бұрын
It’s really a sign of how messed up things are that the majority of comments are people saying how amazing it is that two adults are talking…like adults.
@jamescarbon3853
@jamescarbon3853 3 ай бұрын
It's because these two have studied the facts and have formed their own opinions. While the rest of society consume opinions then formulate their facts
@grayhamgrayhamson1466
@grayhamgrayhamson1466 3 ай бұрын
@@jamescarbon3853 if you hit reply please reply to what I wrote, otherwise just comment on the video
@sajedchreim7118
@sajedchreim7118 3 ай бұрын
@@jamescarbon3853I mean you’re not wrong implying that most people form an opinion then gather facts, but Ben Shapiro is one of them. I agree with him on almost everything, but when it comes to Israel, he time and time again exposes his opinion in the face of facts. To the contrary of facts. For me this was enough to stop following him. There are other people out there with a soul, with a heart, that have the same domestic ideas as him. Ben is a smart man, but that doesn’t make him right all the time. On the Israel Palestine conflict, Ben is over his head and completely misguided and misinformed
@InflatableTube
@InflatableTube 3 ай бұрын
We’ve had almost 8 years of polarized echo chambers bursting out like an H bomb. Fomented by people like Trump, like Shapiro’s company, etc..
@onix044
@onix044 2 ай бұрын
@@sajedchreim7118misinformed in what way? It’s probably his special interest topic if anything.
@kraugaming7557
@kraugaming7557 Ай бұрын
This is what a true debate is like. Not yelling over each other, throwing insults, etc. You can hear both Ben and Destiny debate their points and at the end of each segment, both can admit to agreeing to each others points in some way or another. There's no egotistical view that they MUST BE RIGHT at all costs.
@colleenbrotherton2266
@colleenbrotherton2266 Ай бұрын
extremely civil...both men....excellent debate
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
💯.
@bentyryan
@bentyryan 3 ай бұрын
This must be the world record for most words-per-minute in a podcast. It's closer to a rap battle than a debate
@claywrangler1993
@claywrangler1993 3 ай бұрын
2 grifters debating. I'm Jewish by birth and first settler on the other side, but i don't grift politically so my opinion doesn't matter
@bpharaoh8765
@bpharaoh8765 3 ай бұрын
They are both fast talkers, I have no idea who the second dude is but he holds his own regardless of how dumb his thought process is! I love hearing intelligent arguments regardless of what side the come from!
@bpharaoh8765
@bpharaoh8765 3 ай бұрын
@@claywrangler1993so you are a grifter by birth or persuasion? Either way you are an idiot? Agree or don’t agree with what either, or are saying, you can classify anyone with an opinion that utilizes that opinion to make money as a grifter, but that fact alone does not marginalize that opinion
@nocommentingplease
@nocommentingplease 3 ай бұрын
​@@bpharaoh8765 who is the one you know then?
@habibbialikafe339
@habibbialikafe339 3 ай бұрын
I listened to this on spotify and slowed the speed down to 0.8x. Highly advise everyone else to do the same.
@jessegallagher3952
@jessegallagher3952 3 ай бұрын
Finally, a conversation at a natural 1.5x speed without having to adjust settings!
@claudetteguimond8035
@claudetteguimond8035 3 ай бұрын
I missed a few words myself.
@zonehd3433
@zonehd3433 3 ай бұрын
Am I so mentally ill that I can watch this on 2x speed?
@shmeepurt
@shmeepurt 3 ай бұрын
@@zonehd3433that’s gotta be brainrot
@samlane9732
@samlane9732 3 ай бұрын
​@zonehd3433 I put it on 2x to see what it sounded like... it reminded me of the dude that used to name all the side effects at the end of prescription commercials back in the day lol
@obnoxiaaeristokles3872
@obnoxiaaeristokles3872 3 ай бұрын
@@zonehd3433 No, I don't know what they all are about. I'm watching at 2x myself
@paulkemp7035
@paulkemp7035 Ай бұрын
As someone who has a somewhat phobic reaction to debates, I found this presentation to be quite enjoyable and educational. Thanks Lex and all your team.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
💯.
@Classicalliberal85
@Classicalliberal85 Ай бұрын
one of the most insightul and in-depth political conversations ive seen in a long time
@tokyosour4215
@tokyosour4215 3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for these two to have a sitdown forever. 4 hours of debate in 2 hours.
@pbjam2182
@pbjam2182 3 ай бұрын
If you play it at half speed, the video almost sounds like a regular conversation
@Cimmerian415
@Cimmerian415 3 ай бұрын
​@@pbjam2182 .075x is a good listening speed.
@patrickmcphee770
@patrickmcphee770 3 ай бұрын
You must love dumb!
@Seamannon
@Seamannon 3 ай бұрын
@@pbjam2182 That's the magic of KZfaq - you can adjust the speed to your own liking and comfort, no matter how slow or fast the podcasters talk irl. It's incredible! Sometimes I wish I could speed up videos more than x2, but certainly not in case of this particular conversation.
@c.l.368
@c.l.368 3 ай бұрын
@@Seamannon the thing that sucks about it is you can't speed people's speech up IN REAL LIFE. I've gotten so used to listening to podcasts at 1.5x - 2.0x that now listening to people at their normal speeds is actually harder for me.
@GrahamStephan
@GrahamStephan 3 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this is finally happening! Excited to watch!
@ageofhypocrisee
@ageofhypocrisee 3 ай бұрын
Did you smash the like button?
@raphg6319
@raphg6319 3 ай бұрын
@@ageofhypocrisee I think someone has smashed Destiny's wife during that podcast
@Jangel3995
@Jangel3995 3 ай бұрын
@@ageofhypocrisee🤣
@TheMic13
@TheMic13 3 ай бұрын
manifest destiny
@Deleteyourself83
@Deleteyourself83 3 ай бұрын
Smashed destiny's wife@@ageofhypocrisee
@downhour1
@downhour1 Ай бұрын
I have greatly enjoyed this conversation. It is so refreshingly nice to listen to 2 Intelligent individuals from conflicting viewpoints have a civil conversation about politics. Thank you very much for doing this.And using your time.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
💯.
@Uno_Floydd
@Uno_Floydd 13 күн бұрын
This feels like a conversation between my sober self vs I smoked a bit more than usual
@user-bn4jk8gn1k
@user-bn4jk8gn1k 5 күн бұрын
ooh I love it. I also swing between being conservative and being liberal, I feel a bit bipolar with it. Destiny is the least offensive of all the progressive media types (and let's watch Ana as she red pills herself, she's fun too)
@iannovak5223
@iannovak5223 3 ай бұрын
We even got Destiny vs Shapiro debate before GTA 6
@stevenflinn1377
@stevenflinn1377 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@NOSTahlgia
@NOSTahlgia 3 ай бұрын
Half Life 3
@jpg6113
@jpg6113 3 ай бұрын
Have Nick Fuentes on
@jacobvandijk2184
@jacobvandijk2184 3 ай бұрын
I thought this was an ad for GTA 6?
@user-ln6tl3rl5p
@user-ln6tl3rl5p 3 ай бұрын
its gonna be on the radio in gta 6
@seff2451
@seff2451 3 ай бұрын
i can't explain how refreshing it is to listen to a debate where when one person is speaking, not a single word comes out of the other one until their name is called and their opponent is finished. they just silently sit and write down points to rehash on when it's their turn but there's no interrupting, or like back and forth yelling or emotions. seriously so god damn refreshing
@SherwinChow-cg3nw
@SherwinChow-cg3nw 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately Shapiro isn’t formulating foreign policies. He has the audacity to condemn the Houties and support the U.S. & British bombings thus espousing ultra right wing political ideology.
@thenecroking6170
@thenecroking6170 3 ай бұрын
now lets look at the hasan card
@saoirse_mavourneen
@saoirse_mavourneen 3 ай бұрын
Yes, very nice to see, you actually get to hear every point.
@Noise_floorxx
@Noise_floorxx 3 ай бұрын
Did you actually watch the entire thing?
@blunderman73dicks37
@blunderman73dicks37 3 ай бұрын
idk ben kept interrupting especially later on
@chriswhite-vb5ts
@chriswhite-vb5ts 16 күн бұрын
So I enjoyed this-seems like an actual debate between a couple of guys on different sides of the fence from the 1950’s- respectful, curious, and still friendly- no freaking out, screaming, fighting, shooting each other-
@williv
@williv Ай бұрын
I sincerely thought my playback speed was set to 2x. I had to check.
@ed1pk
@ed1pk Ай бұрын
0.75x playback speed works well. 😂
@Shawnathon_gayskin_the_seaman
@Shawnathon_gayskin_the_seaman Ай бұрын
Lex actually slowed down the footage in editing
@skeetabomb
@skeetabomb Ай бұрын
😆
@doringhaak8392
@doringhaak8392 Ай бұрын
Both fast speakers 😂
@Scott-hb4ef
@Scott-hb4ef Ай бұрын
Same lol
@JensAWorkInProgress
@JensAWorkInProgress 3 ай бұрын
Debates without insults are the best
@richardhands904
@richardhands904 3 ай бұрын
Although i loved this, the odd one where people are at each other throat is enjoyable as well.
@locochang6533
@locochang6533 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the insults.
@AlbinoWhiteGuy
@AlbinoWhiteGuy 3 ай бұрын
@@richardhands904Having a mix is definitely good.
@MrImagin
@MrImagin 3 ай бұрын
no insults?!? Ben called Destiny a Republican in the fist minute!! haha
@Patrick33194
@Patrick33194 3 ай бұрын
Except if Alex Jones or Trump are participating
@micahanderson1982
@micahanderson1982 Ай бұрын
This was a fantastic discussion. The world needs so much more of this. Talking and keeping human connection in the face of different views and values is vital to society.
@bdawgiscool_1511
@bdawgiscool_1511 22 күн бұрын
What I like about this debate is that tho they disagree on pretty much like 80-90% of things as well as even proved one another wrong on some topics off and on is that they definitely seem to respect and like one another. Which shows that regardless of your political belief, people can come together and respect/like one another ultimately. I could be wrong but that’s what I’m picking up from this
@Uncookednote
@Uncookednote 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if this was the type of discussion we had in Congress. Our country would be so much better.
@dangbruhskyy
@dangbruhskyy 3 ай бұрын
Isnt it amazing that this discussion is free? They have real jobs. The time and money wasted in u.s government constant tug of war is just wild
@Queefer8Sutherland
@Queefer8Sutherland 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of Biden or trump, you have two people who understand. We could never hope for so much in any country.
@tnndll4294
@tnndll4294 3 ай бұрын
yes. left and right thinkers alike. and I personally would rather see them on the same debate team. Defending Israel for example.
@x4mon7
@x4mon7 3 ай бұрын
@@tnndll4294 lets be honest they are on the same team.
@zaq9339
@zaq9339 3 ай бұрын
People in Congress can't have this type of discussions because they represent interests they can't openly admit to. This is why most people think politicians are idiots who don't make much sense. They do if you consider it's a balancing act between saving face in front of voters and pleasing their masters, whoever they are. Otherwise politicians are pretty smart. We just don't see it.
@s3fron
@s3fron 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Lex still only mentions the sponsers in the description, instead of clogging up the actual video just further enforces how real he is. He could be making thousands per month, instead he chooses to provide the purest experience. Legend.
@handidles
@handidles 3 ай бұрын
He could be making thousands per month 😂😂 wdym, he is making thousand per month
@Kakakakakakakakakakakaka684
@Kakakakakakakakakakakaka684 3 ай бұрын
@@hiddxnlxavxs3968man shut up bro
@TheK9music
@TheK9music 3 ай бұрын
Making thousands per month 😂 Dude he makes thousands per couple days if not every day
@psionicdongpunch
@psionicdongpunch 3 ай бұрын
Hadn't even noticed that, but massive +1
@frankvonfrauner
@frankvonfrauner 3 ай бұрын
It enforces that he's financially comfortable
@karenmoore5620
@karenmoore5620 Ай бұрын
I had to slow this down to 0.75 to be able to keep up with them lol😂.
@ericfarris5850
@ericfarris5850 22 күн бұрын
I'm diggin Lex. Keep it up my man!
@jefferyhellerjh
@jefferyhellerjh 3 ай бұрын
What would it take to make this a weekly podcast? Maybe a 10-part series? This was the most respectful disagreement I’ve ever witnessed and the world needs to see much more of this!
@johneaston8314
@johneaston8314 3 ай бұрын
I honestly didn’t see the appeal. It was just Ben walking destiny around the track for 2 hours
@diddlefiggins6557
@diddlefiggins6557 3 ай бұрын
@@johneaston8314Wrong
@davidhoffman2311
@davidhoffman2311 3 ай бұрын
@@johneaston8314 How do you even come to this conclusion? Bro, how do you even see reality in such a way to allow you to come to such a conclusion? I’m willing to bet you watched 10 minutes before going into comments and just assuming everything based on the fact that you aren’t able to pay attention long enough to realize this was a back and fourth style of debate.
@TC-jo2vj
@TC-jo2vj 3 ай бұрын
All 3 should be laughed out of polite society.
@johneaston8314
@johneaston8314 3 ай бұрын
@@davidhoffman2311 insulting me rather than addressing what I said.. you didn’t get that from the video. What argument or position in this entire “debate” did destiny win on?
@imbigwes
@imbigwes 3 ай бұрын
This was so much better than I was expecting. Both of them are known to be fiery but damn this actually felt like a meeting of minds. LOVE when debaters aren't screaming!
@user-vd5ko4ob6y
@user-vd5ko4ob6y 3 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7GnmsqZmJzUnYU.html
@ThaDonJsuan
@ThaDonJsuan 3 ай бұрын
Ben vs destiny was as if ben read the whole article and destiny just read the headline. He just didnt know the details on anything.
@Azrael1486
@Azrael1486 3 ай бұрын
​@@ThaDonJsuanthank you for noticing that. Props to Destiny for being civil, but to anybody capable of following their points. Destiny would make a superficial statement that sounded good.... Until Ben dismantled it point by point with in depth facts
@kosmokramer5420
@kosmokramer5420 3 ай бұрын
They are two sides of the same coin They are both ultra liberal
@bluhminonion
@bluhminonion 3 ай бұрын
I think anyone that thought going in to this that there'd be anything other than well reasoned arguments and respectful dialogue hasn't watched very much of their content.
@someonewhoknowsnothingabou2137
@someonewhoknowsnothingabou2137 Ай бұрын
Here is what I have to say about education. I want to agree with destiny, but here are the problems. 1. What will they be taught? Western thought? Eastern thought? Marxism? We would HAVE to teach Western thought because the Constitution is based on Hume or Neo-platonism philosophy. 2. Bring back trades in schools.
@UnbelievableCOD
@UnbelievableCOD Ай бұрын
Amazing. Thank you for giving us this, Lex! It’s a breath of fresh air.
@jjrap3
@jjrap3 3 ай бұрын
This was a debate where both parties looked like they were having fun. Incredible thing to watch.
@LLG47
@LLG47 3 ай бұрын
I also think that despite their differences they actually respect and like one another.
@NWBwana
@NWBwana 3 ай бұрын
It was actually a healthy debate and disagreement. As observers we didn't witness petulant smears, but an exchange of views and informations such as we now should have a better understanding not just of the topic but of the predominant views represented by these "sides". Its stuff like this that makes diversity a strength.
@wanderingwobb6300
@wanderingwobb6300 3 ай бұрын
Hoping for more destiny Shapiro content in the future but who knows
@Hoberpopkin
@Hoberpopkin 3 ай бұрын
It's a little uncanny and a bit concerning that when previewing comments before I dive into the video, almost every comment is gushing about how wonderful it is that the conversation is civil. While I understand and sympathize with the overwhelming desire to have grounded conversations considering the state of public discourse...everywhere, this is a 2.5 hour video and the top comments are priming me to expect that very little of substance will be in the video itself because all the comments are ONLY about how civil the conversation was. Normally in videos, comments are filled with people zoning in on specific topics that get mentioned, discussing the specifics of what one person or another has said and either picking it apart or responding to it by adding further clarifying details. When I sorted comments by new, things were a lot more specific and came across a lot less...performative/masturbatory, which made me more excited for the video. But the whole thing does scratch at a suspicion I've had for a while now that because our public platforms for discourse is so awful, some people conflate more heated discussions with bad faith discussions because people tend to get angry and heated when their opponents argue in bad faith. And depending on who you agree with, you won't notice the bad faith habits of your ideological ally in the debate but will notice all the bad faith arguments of your ideological opponent, which is why most modern debates are associated with performative rage-bait and polarizing audiences into even smaller echo chambers. Throw in the fact that one side or another might start screaming back in bad faith defensively because the other side started it first, the whole thing turns into a mess really quickly. But good faith heated debates also happen, especially when serious topics are discussed. In fact, if people aren't getting a little heated in discussions about really serious topics, it's kind of a red flag indicating the possibility that the aesthetics of civility is more important than the lives affected by the politics being discussed. You run into a similar echo chamber problem running into reverse--whereas bloodsport debates are useless because nothing gets done, with the target audience being people addicted to rage, a debate running purely on civility politics becomes useless because both sides go out of their way to not challenge their opponents, to avoid controversial topics, etc etc. Anyone who cares about the subjects at hand usually end up not being the target audience--and the people who enjoy the debates are people who see politics as a game rather than a force controlling the lives of millions, often threatening their ability to survive. I'm honestly a bit pessimistic about how this video will turn out. I hope very much I'll be proven very wrong and feel very silly by the end of it.
@soxfan5240
@soxfan5240 3 ай бұрын
@@Hoberpopkin That was entirely too much to write before ever watching the fucking video. Jesus, STFU and watch it. It's Destiny and Ben Shapiro, if you think they won't have passion just because people said they liked the discourse, you don't know these two..... They live for this shit.
@AfterSkool
@AfterSkool 3 ай бұрын
We don't have to agree, but we can respect each other.
@theemperor4901
@theemperor4901 3 ай бұрын
love to see one my favorite channels here
@d4mterro320
@d4mterro320 3 ай бұрын
We respect eachother, but you dont use logic, so we ll dismiss u justifiably
@alihamdon6644
@alihamdon6644 3 ай бұрын
@@d4mterro320what does this even mean?
@LuchP91
@LuchP91 3 ай бұрын
One of the greatest channels on YT. Thanks for everything you do ❤
@RebelGorilla7384
@RebelGorilla7384 3 ай бұрын
Not if you advocate violence
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
This video was absolutely FANTASTIC!!. I loved every single second of this debate. BOTH of them were amazing, and it made my day. Very impressed. Thank you, Lex!!
@adonaicolon2136
@adonaicolon2136 Ай бұрын
Great content. More in common than you would think.
@champ8605
@champ8605 3 ай бұрын
Ben finally having a conversation with someone who speaks as fast as he does.
@googleisevil8958
@googleisevil8958 3 ай бұрын
Can anyone else keep up though? I feel if the two talk any faster they'll punch a hole in the space/time continuum.
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve
@ThePurpleButterfly21-ie7ve 3 ай бұрын
Ben's faster... just saying.
@SH2-136
@SH2-136 3 ай бұрын
​@googleisevil8958 I enjoy when people talk fast, I usually speed up to 1.25x on videos but these two I have no need lmao
@megamax898
@megamax898 3 ай бұрын
Two turbo manlets.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 3 ай бұрын
actually...in this case i thought they were noticably slower...
@Aknight292
@Aknight292 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy this type of debate. No screaming over each other. Just a conversation where the content is more important than the show
@admill77
@admill77 3 ай бұрын
It’s respectful conversation from both sides. It’s obvious that they both feel strongly about their opinions but are able to create space to prevent tension from boiling over. This was a really great and interesting listen!
@youssefdirani
@youssefdirani 3 ай бұрын
I believe we should call for a referendum made by true original land owners (Palestineans, including native Palestinean jews) and they decide the state they want. Simple. Very simple. It's not a thousands of years matter. Zionism is danger and should not be adopted by a state.
@megeramilosskaya1
@megeramilosskaya1 3 ай бұрын
@@youssefdiraniwhat’s so dangerous about it?
@stonetemplepilot420
@stonetemplepilot420 3 ай бұрын
God I hate these comments and I remembered why because there's no actual substance in them. I'm looking through these comments for what one person said and it's COMPLETELY OVERSHADOWED by "oMg what a healthy conversation!" I don't care! Yes, these are two people who realize civility looks good, now can we talk about what was said?!
@zaneboettcher6257
@zaneboettcher6257 3 ай бұрын
I think the biggest part that also drives this debate is that they find common ground, and see where their similarities in idea are. It’s important to separate facts and common ground from opinions to keep the debate healthy. It’s about the ideas they believe, and not the person themselves. Honestly, we need more of this in everyday life and universities. It’s important to band together as US citizens, voice our concerns, but also find common ground to make sure everyone can prosper.
@goncalobaia1574
@goncalobaia1574 26 күн бұрын
Hum... Could you guys repeat please? Like, everything from the beginning? And in 1/5 speed?
@ivanvillafane3702
@ivanvillafane3702 28 күн бұрын
No your playback speed is not set to 2x. This is actually how fast they talk 😂
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
😃 yep.
@TheTataxx
@TheTataxx 3 ай бұрын
I'm not saying that these two should do a weekly discussion, but I'd totally watch if they did.
@saraarlavi4217
@saraarlavi4217 3 ай бұрын
Maybe not weekly, but I'd totally go for monthly.
@yessir7004
@yessir7004 3 ай бұрын
Need to add Alex Jones and I'd tune in for sure
@saraarlavi4217
@saraarlavi4217 3 ай бұрын
@@egroendyk What passes for good for you then just curious?
@pablowall
@pablowall 3 ай бұрын
​@@egroendykhey buddy, hope you're doing well, just wanted to tell you to shut up. Adding nothing useful and you're wrong
@AnorexicPandas
@AnorexicPandas 3 ай бұрын
They should have a podcast
@countbaldwin
@countbaldwin 3 ай бұрын
Finally a conversation between people from across the political aisle without constant interrupting and name calling and cheap insults, just comparing each other's ideas and trying to see where the other stands in relation to them. These kinds of conversations is what we need in an increasingly divisive world instagated by social media. It's certainly way more constructive than the 10,000th "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS leftie college student" debate about the culture war.
@ryangordon8147
@ryangordon8147 3 ай бұрын
I had some buddies tell me it was boring and I laughed. This is how the conversation should look, if you want children arguing then watch actual politians. LOL @countbaldwin - Great comment!
@hellowill
@hellowill 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call Destiny a far leftist
@yGKeKe
@yGKeKe 3 ай бұрын
I mean, you could label this one as "Ben Shapiro DESTROYS leftie cuckold" and it would still be accurate. Destiny spent at least 30 minutes whining about a merry go round when he was the one driving the carousel.
@RicardoRangel-ll7dp
@RicardoRangel-ll7dp 3 ай бұрын
Destiny didn't do any better except maybe studied before the debate since it was a predetermined debate. Ben destroyed him on on debates that had to do with western society since he has facts on his side. geo politics is wanky since it includes foreign countries who do not have same laws as us. American politics destiny just crying trump is bad orange man. This debate was just Ben explaining how everything works to destiny.
@robertortiz-wilson1588
@robertortiz-wilson1588 3 ай бұрын
​@RicardoRangel-ll7dp I agree to a large extent, I'm just really tired of the word "destroyed." I also appreciated the honestly and civility.
@jordanSc92
@jordanSc92 Ай бұрын
wish i could like this more than once, fantastic debate.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
💯.
@eye-Am-Me
@eye-Am-Me Ай бұрын
I was about to slow down the speed to normal and then realized it was already in normal 🤣
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding 3 ай бұрын
This should've been like 4-5 hours tbh. Feels like they could cover so much more ground. What a pleasure to listen to both being well mannered and considerate
@Zeesneakyninja
@Zeesneakyninja 3 ай бұрын
They need to start a series
@lybnychavez6953
@lybnychavez6953 3 ай бұрын
Lex said it’s part 1 didn’t he
@TheAutoexecbat
@TheAutoexecbat 3 ай бұрын
they both speak fast enough that it was
@Neworldisordered
@Neworldisordered 3 ай бұрын
5 hours and continue taping while they have pizza/beer together.
@TheBeefPudding
@TheBeefPudding 3 ай бұрын
@@lybnychavez6953 yeah but who knows when they will actually reconvene. Could be over a year even more. I'd love a bit meaty part 1 to tide me over. Hell I'd tune in weekly for a series lol
@joseprprprpr
@joseprprprpr 3 ай бұрын
Please bring them back for a part 2. The format was perfect.
@ds7335
@ds7335 3 ай бұрын
Agree
@skoobuh
@skoobuh 3 ай бұрын
Please don’t show these idiots again absolutely baffling 😂
@kevinhoang9074
@kevinhoang9074 3 ай бұрын
It should be Ben and someone else from the left like Kyle Kulinski
@MrMortombachman
@MrMortombachman 3 ай бұрын
Ben would completely destroy Kyle. Longtime listener, but he's lost his touch
@saumitrad
@saumitrad 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinhoang9074 That would be a blood bath. Ben would demolish Kyle. In the liberal - left - atheist - antTrump side there are only two people who can compete with Ben - Destiny & Sam Harris. The list is Finite.
@Kanaigitahoya
@Kanaigitahoya Ай бұрын
Idk how many times I had to check if it was 1.5 or normal speed.
@tamih.9043
@tamih.9043 3 ай бұрын
I love how both let the other talk without interrupting!
@Mrs_Mama_MFT
@Mrs_Mama_MFT 3 ай бұрын
I was shocked by this. Did you see the debate between Destiny and Glen Greenwood? 🤦🏻‍♀️
@tonyascancook
@tonyascancook 3 ай бұрын
Destiny interrupted frequently
@hochmeisterr
@hochmeisterr 3 ай бұрын
Because both are dealing in good faith and Factual information.
@jaymay7957
@jaymay7957 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s what happens when you do in person debates haha
@550n440
@550n440 3 ай бұрын
I wish this was the top comment. Respectful discourse is no longer the norm, and what we now normally see is disgusting.
@Tameisha101
@Tameisha101 3 ай бұрын
Its such a breath of fresh air to leave a debate and NOT be either frustrated, annoyed, or left learning absolutely nothing . You guys did a great job. Very respectful.
@servanttofriend8481
@servanttofriend8481 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment, we deposited your shekels in your account. Sincerely, Dem boys.
@zipzzo
@zipzzo 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Did you change your mind about any of the topics discussed or did you find despite convincing arguments and it being a "breath of fresh air" that you still believe in exactly the same things you did prior to the video?
@metaljacket8128
@metaljacket8128 3 ай бұрын
Indeed!
@metaljacket8128
@metaljacket8128 3 ай бұрын
​@zipzzo Could you possibly have worded that more passive-aggressively lmao
@salvest3rr
@salvest3rr 3 ай бұрын
lmaooo not possible but i am interested in the answer @@metaljacket8128
@lslewis
@lslewis 11 күн бұрын
That was honestly SO refreshing - from start to finish - I don't know what to say but "kudos" to the whole thing^^~
@craftykev
@craftykev Ай бұрын
A great dialogue, but can you talk a bit faster next time, chaps?
@BuricIvan
@BuricIvan 3 ай бұрын
9 hours of debate compressed into 2 and a half hour video. Thank you!!
@TerryFD721
@TerryFD721 3 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@NitishRhae
@NitishRhae 3 ай бұрын
Good one 😂
@11arkasha11
@11arkasha11 3 ай бұрын
that is just cuz hey speak at warp speed LOL
@chunkykong1976
@chunkykong1976 3 ай бұрын
@@11arkasha11exactly
@haruhirogrimgar6047
@haruhirogrimgar6047 3 ай бұрын
​@@11arkasha11 Meh, they were pretty slow here. Needed to kick it to 1.5x speed to get them to normal.
@stevey187
@stevey187 3 ай бұрын
We need parts 2 through 10. This is the best thing I've watched on KZfaq... maybe ever
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 3 ай бұрын
Wait until you find Skibiddi toilet. Mind blowing.
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 3 ай бұрын
@jjboss7896 how is it ironic?
@Stonymontana14
@Stonymontana14 3 ай бұрын
@@robbirose7032thx for the nightmares
@AH-tx1nj
@AH-tx1nj 3 ай бұрын
Chocolate rain - #1. This video is a close 2nd.
@tomaszluczynski6823
@tomaszluczynski6823 28 күн бұрын
i recommend 0.75 play speed. it is actually more natural speed to listen to them
@bludelflink
@bludelflink Ай бұрын
This was so amazing, thank you to everyone involved in making this happen. We need more intelligent, respectful, and honest discourse between opposing views on topics like these on the internet and beyond.
@timparks9833
@timparks9833 3 ай бұрын
I love that the moderation was only there to ask questions, and these two allowed each other to make their points. Can you imagine if this was the standard for a presidential debate? We might be able to actually have an informed vote.
@keegansillaots4327
@keegansillaots4327 2 ай бұрын
Lex is the man!
@firepuppies4086
@firepuppies4086 2 ай бұрын
Oh it should be... But the people in the debate can be the issue
@petroboomn7491
@petroboomn7491 2 ай бұрын
Not likely to happen cuz these 3 men are very intelligent, articulate, and respectful individuals. I'm not saying they are saints or care particularly about every person, but these guys are relatively fair level headed and real. The personalities that usually succeed in US politics today are sensationalist demagogues who function on mob mentality and will say whatever they have to WIN PEROID.
@TheBryanyingst
@TheBryanyingst 2 ай бұрын
A Russian Jew, Zionist, and Liberal Jew walk into a bar. Everyone boos. Go home - nobody wants your propaganda anymore.
@tomgeoghegan9173
@tomgeoghegan9173 2 ай бұрын
@@keegansillaots4327 Non stop yammering.
@alexwheatley541
@alexwheatley541 3 ай бұрын
People have wanted to see these two in the same room for what feels like a decade, and it finally happened! Pretty cool, definitely a highlight reel moment
@freedomf1ghter77
@freedomf1ghter77 3 ай бұрын
Must've felt drier than a desert
@JoeRussellProductions
@JoeRussellProductions Ай бұрын
A Great conversation.
@karencolb2566
@karencolb2566 4 күн бұрын
This is glorious. If only everyone could speak to each other with this much knowledge and respect. ❤
@zwenz365
@zwenz365 3 ай бұрын
I love how they're both very respectful and take the time to listen to each other's arguments. All while coming up with a well though-out rebuttal without attacking the individual. Kudos to both
@habibbialikafe339
@habibbialikafe339 3 ай бұрын
best debate I've listened to
@poodie3887
@poodie3887 3 ай бұрын
Kudos for being a grown man having a respectful conversation? The world is doomed we gotta praise the bare minimum, it’s the equivalent to a woman saying she’s independent
@know1827
@know1827 3 ай бұрын
It was kind of mind numbing. The whole thing was Ben saying what he thought, destiny saying he doesn't agree, then Ben rebutting, then destiny saying he agrees 100% with Ben... Butttttt
@digdagster
@digdagster 3 ай бұрын
​@@poodie3887 bad morning?
@gintoki_sakata__
@gintoki_sakata__ 3 ай бұрын
​@@poodie3887are you okay
@Bananapuddin86
@Bananapuddin86 3 ай бұрын
Actually getting to watch 2 people finish their topics with neither of them interrupting each other? WTF IS THIS? Love when people can actually get their full point across without getting interrupted. It makes for a good debate.
@calvinhobbes5524
@calvinhobbes5524 3 ай бұрын
Thinking Ben Shapiro has a point lol.
@emperortrajan3609
@emperortrajan3609 3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about, Destiny wouldn't shut the fck up when Ben tried to answer questions, especially about foreign policy. Kept saying "one more question" or "one last time" and kept trying to deflect the conversation on what VERY little Biden did. Very annoying.
@gbake6080
@gbake6080 3 ай бұрын
@@calvinhobbes5524 cope
@itsonlyagame
@itsonlyagame 3 ай бұрын
to be fair they are both agreeing on a lot of things so ig the mutual respects comes from it Ben has a persona to protect and maintain while Steven likes to do a lot of research not only about the topics but the person he is going to debate with. you wont see Ben going beast mode yelling at people unless you watching tiktok "destroy" complications of rare occasions where ig he some sort of been rude back to someone else who was definitely rude. sure I wish every debate would go peacefully but you cant deny that if you are not already well known on media having heated debates can and will bring more views
@TLEberle
@TLEberle 3 ай бұрын
Disagree. Destiny was constantly interrupting with vocalizations. He wasn't butting in with disagreements but it's not the same is not interrupting.
@user-uu4sp9gi2y
@user-uu4sp9gi2y Ай бұрын
Best debate I’ve ever seen, I love watching Ben and Destiny.
@brownsound6666
@brownsound6666 23 күн бұрын
they're plainly on the same team
@hunningtonnuo9213
@hunningtonnuo9213 21 күн бұрын
But they aren’t tho? They have extremely different views on Trump v Biden and Jan 6. I don’t think these were covered in the debate, but their views on religion, abortion, and immigration are not the same at all. Just because they both are more on the Israel side (even then with many disagreements), they have completely different social and political values. Just because the debate wasn’t a screaming match doesn’t mean they agree.
@justinmadrid8712
@justinmadrid8712 14 күн бұрын
@@hunningtonnuo9213Destiny has major TDS. He makes solid points here and there, then all of the sudden he says Donald Trump will become a dictator who will abolish elections and rule forever. That is not a reasonable opinion to have, only someone with full blown TDS would say that with a straight face.
@NicksPinoy
@NicksPinoy 9 күн бұрын
You haven't been paying attention lol
@visual_sanctum
@visual_sanctum 3 ай бұрын
Man, I wish this could have been 5 hours long. Loved listening to all of this. Please bring them both back soon!
@RustCole01
@RustCole01 3 ай бұрын
It was 5 hrs.... they just both speak at 2.5 times speed
@adriangrimm3826
@adriangrimm3826 3 ай бұрын
@@RustCole01Fuck! I clicked this comment just to say this.
@CasuallyAuthentic
@CasuallyAuthentic 3 ай бұрын
I stopped listening at 2 hours. One of the most useless debates. Yes they are both highly opinionated and very educated on what they are opinionated 6 what a waste of such inelligence. Such surface level conversations. Why are people still debating about and defending evils of any kind. Let's move past the lesser of two evils. There are far more important conversations going on like the evolveing of mind and spirit. People are actually having deeper conversations about how the next 2k years are going to pan out and these two are worried about the past.
@killtheo8894
@killtheo8894 3 ай бұрын
@@CasuallyAuthenticThis is such a childish view on what makes a deeper conversation. They discussed their own philosophies, how to they view education(which effects the next generation) their analysis of the last two presidential terms which are going to have impacts for years to come not to mention this years election, Their views on two wars which affect millions if not billions of people, about institutions in America and how they view the future of human relationships. While there are many more topics to discuss and each of these topics they could both go into more depth on to say this was surface level compared to some nonsensical view on a future we could never predict is insane
@CasuallyAuthentic
@CasuallyAuthentic 3 ай бұрын
@killtheo8894 as I said, very surface level. And your statements only backs that up. I understand that you don't agree, we all have different levels of intellect. Sorry to have offended you to make you ironically call me childish. I think we're beyond being offended and offending because of different opinions. It no longer serves us. I personally just want some intellects with platforms to have deeper conversations, but then again, maybe they are just stuck in the old way too. By the way, you never did say why my opinion was childish...
@TonyB369
@TonyB369 3 ай бұрын
This was probably my favorite debate I’ve listened to in a while. Both were very respectful, made solid arguments on either side, pretty much no interruptions or speaking over each other, and everything flowed well.
@p0tatobiden250
@p0tatobiden250 3 ай бұрын
Trump knows how he lost is the problem!!
@GeopoliticsDaily538
@GeopoliticsDaily538 3 ай бұрын
They’re both vile Zionists, this is barely a decade.
@trickmuffinful
@trickmuffinful 3 ай бұрын
​@p0tatobiden250 good boy. You listen so well. Now vote for who we tell to vote for.
@markcrnkovich
@markcrnkovich 3 ай бұрын
Why?
@TonyB369
@TonyB369 3 ай бұрын
@@markcrnkovich ?
@anacandapro4618
@anacandapro4618 Ай бұрын
It's unbelievable how much was said in like 20 minutes that my brain hurts from comprending it all. This is the most interesting conversation ever.
@high.tened_sense5966
@high.tened_sense5966 Ай бұрын
Lex proves literally anyone can do podcasts interviews
@justinmadrid8712
@justinmadrid8712 14 күн бұрын
Nope. Someone like Tim Pool would constantly be interjecting, taking up half of the air time for himself. (I still like Tim Pool though)
@comedyriff5231
@comedyriff5231 3 ай бұрын
I usually don´t like debates because they often turn into a rhetorical battle with little political/philosophical substance. This debate however was an example of how a debate should be done. You state WHAT you think, you explain WHY you think what you think. The other party then state what they agree/disagree on, and why that is.
@codylujan
@codylujan 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. Ben shapiro has so much "i believe, because of my narrow belief system, that if everyone was like me, we'd be better off." Ok ben, in a microcosm where every person was just you, i'm sure this would all work. but it's not like that." Ben has such rudimentary fundamentals, it's literally talking to an amish guy who can't even speak english. Ben doesn't know anything besides money and "core values.???"
@joannrinear8388
@joannrinear8388 3 ай бұрын
And debates are supposed to be like this. Subject matter...each person answers question. Then they debate their points. May the best person win.
@azplo
@azplo 3 ай бұрын
Yes, but destiny doesn't even know what he believes. He say something stupid, gets destroyed, and then moves onto another stupid point. Clown show
@karstencarsten9964
@karstencarsten9964 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter if what you believe in is stupid which is the case for both of these creeps
@cama4252
@cama4252 3 ай бұрын
Comments have to be getting deleted or something, because that's all I saw for 2 hours. Guy just brought up points to get desyroyed again and again. ​@@azplo
@zackbop9045
@zackbop9045 3 ай бұрын
This is low-key how presidential debates should be throughout the entire four years before election
@braincell4536
@braincell4536 3 ай бұрын
these people should run for president. but the broader political system would crush them.
@Dr.Jekyll_
@Dr.Jekyll_ 3 ай бұрын
Joe would fall asleep 10 minutes in, lol🤣
@DropIt56
@DropIt56 3 ай бұрын
You want an incumbent president to waste their term having debates like this instead of running the country?
@Nikolaki514
@Nikolaki514 3 ай бұрын
If only presidential candidates were as cordial and respectful as Ben and Destiny. Sadly most people who seek political office are power hungry and not decent people.
@Grits-N-Gravy
@Grits-N-Gravy 3 ай бұрын
What does the term low-key mean? Did it replace “true” as the next generation’s nonsensical overused catchy sounding word?
@dennisgreen7489
@dennisgreen7489 Ай бұрын
U can see these two men have great respect for each other
@han1218
@han1218 29 күн бұрын
Destiny didn't have that much respect for Jordan Peterson, who thinks more before talking. Ben is closer in style with Destiny, both fast talkers.
@justinmadrid8712
@justinmadrid8712 14 күн бұрын
@@han1218Destiny learned from Peterson not to “play games”. When Destiny starts losing, he starts dragging the debate off the rails to where he says things like, “how do you know the sun will rise tomorrow”. And Destiny’s fans will think he is the next Aristotle for asking that. 😂
@KeizaiTree
@KeizaiTree Ай бұрын
I hereby nominate ale for the Nobel Peace Prize. This is the most civil conversation between these two major ideologies I’ve seen for as long as I can remember . The shear number of issues that remain unresolved between these ideologies was astounding. And yet, the number of times they agreed was admirable of all parties.
@Music-Is-Real-Love
@Music-Is-Real-Love 23 күн бұрын
Yes!!. ❤️
@nthnglsn
@nthnglsn 3 ай бұрын
This is golden having two ppl who are known for speed taking having a 2 hour discussion
@KouichiU
@KouichiU 3 ай бұрын
Imagine this would have easily been twice as long if they spoke normal speed
@Al-Gore-ithm
@Al-Gore-ithm 3 ай бұрын
Lol if you go into settings and adjust the playback speed to .5, it will sound like a normal conversation. Just kidding but if you actually listen to it like that it sounds like 2 16 yr Olds getting stoned for the 1st time and having a deep conversation.
@Eldeecue
@Eldeecue 3 ай бұрын
All I hear when either of these two talk is the murloc aggro noise.
@yusocrazy5882
@yusocrazy5882 3 ай бұрын
@@Eldeecuemlghrhhghhghgrhhg
@7ali7
@7ali7 3 ай бұрын
They have amazing chemistry. Guys MAKE A SHOW TOGETHER! Unite people through healthy respectful debate!
@chasmriscraig
@chasmriscraig 3 ай бұрын
Privately I think they have a moderate to extreme distaste of eachother.
@Bruss390
@Bruss390 3 ай бұрын
@@chasmriscraigdestiny said on stream Ben gave him his number. Could be trolling but he said it sincerely.
@Punished_Trump
@Punished_Trump 3 ай бұрын
Just ew
@venom-gt7rc
@venom-gt7rc 3 ай бұрын
@@chasmriscraig I think that Ben is mostly indifferent towards Destiny (maybe slightly unfavorable view due to polygamy) and that Destiny, on the other hand, respects and somewhat admires Ben
@admill77
@admill77 3 ай бұрын
@@chasmriscraig more respect to each of them if this is true. To be able to treat each other with decency for this conversation is worth recognizing
@rpaulpen
@rpaulpen Ай бұрын
Enjoyed it but had to play it at .75 speed. 😂
@ultrafuel2559
@ultrafuel2559 Ай бұрын
I comes down to just saying a loud that having kids out of wedlock causes problems instead of trying to blame it on institutional racism...
@peepoboi7869
@peepoboi7869 3 ай бұрын
This debate is how I imagine it would look like if the embodiment of Adderall debated the embodiment of Caffeine
@SuperJoshuaWorld64
@SuperJoshuaWorld64 3 ай бұрын
I'd say more like meth vs cocaine
@joeyg29jgjg
@joeyg29jgjg 3 ай бұрын
Wait which ones which?
@jacobwinburn6307
@jacobwinburn6307 3 ай бұрын
Someone needs to check for some Guinness Book record for meaningless words said in an hour or something
@dnbjedi
@dnbjedi 3 ай бұрын
LOLLLLLLL FACTS
@legoboy7107
@legoboy7107 3 ай бұрын
@@joeyg29jgjg Yes.
@suj1201
@suj1201 3 ай бұрын
I wish there was a way for me to lower Ben and Destiny to 0.5x, while simultaneously increasing Lex to 2.0x speed. C'mon, KZfaq!
@PrimulaXRin
@PrimulaXRin 3 ай бұрын
Gotta talk as fast as possible so the other person can't keep up and address all the gobbldygook
@purdysanchez
@purdysanchez 3 ай бұрын
Oh man. I was reading your comment while listening to Lex say the intro and I immediately thought of Stevie from Malcom In the Middle
@Michael-kp4bd
@Michael-kp4bd 3 ай бұрын
Lol on mobile you can set it to 0.75 or 0.5, and then when Lex speaks you can hold your thumb on the screen and it toggles to exactly 2x until you take your finger off. I know this was probably a bit of a joke comment, but I’ve found the 2x press-and-hold feature legitimately useful 😄
@Jeremy-The-Bullfrog
@Jeremy-The-Bullfrog 3 ай бұрын
@@Michael-kp4bd Didn't know this was a feature thanks. I tried it on my computer web browser as well. Looks like it's not limited to mobile. You can do the same 2x trick by holding a left mouse click.
@MidwestFarmToys
@MidwestFarmToys 3 ай бұрын
I actually thought 0.75 was good for Ben... I wanted 0.85 for destiny. And 2 for lex 😂
@benprice2034
@benprice2034 Ай бұрын
Loved this. I love hearing two intelligent people explain their points of views without the name calling
@OfficialKirby
@OfficialKirby Ай бұрын
It actually sounds so normal at 0.75x playback speed
@nateswain4633
@nateswain4633 3 ай бұрын
I turned it down to 0.75 speed, but now Lex sounds like he's had a stroke
@Bmksmn
@Bmksmn 3 ай бұрын
😅😂
@bryced28
@bryced28 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@rzawistowski33
@rzawistowski33 3 ай бұрын
Nice to see 2 guys not just yelling at each other for an interview. They're both actually listening and not cutting each other off. Touchè fellas.
@dip9995
@dip9995 3 ай бұрын
Agreed I'd love for them to have a part 2.
@NoTerrorManagement
@NoTerrorManagement 3 ай бұрын
They're both extremely smart. Destiny single handedly puIIed me out of the right, but Ben is a very knowledgeable individual too.
@benjaminghazi787
@benjaminghazi787 3 ай бұрын
@@NoTerrorManagementsorry to hear that.
@Anonymous-fx3oc
@Anonymous-fx3oc 3 ай бұрын
Because they mostly agree with each other that’s why they’re not yelling at each other. There’s sports debates that are more entertaining than this garbage
@kirstyc2176
@kirstyc2176 3 ай бұрын
why?@@benjaminghazi787
@mrfathead666
@mrfathead666 22 күн бұрын
I need 10 more of these.
@danatheman7690
@danatheman7690 Ай бұрын
I think I agree with basically everything both of them said. This was a great debate!
@Holligan878
@Holligan878 3 ай бұрын
This could be a regular show, cant wait to see round 2 on this channel. Great job Lex!
@vyvianalcott1681
@vyvianalcott1681 3 ай бұрын
I hope they become best friends and start dating and get married and their union is what bridges the divide in America unifying us under one glorious conservative gay banner.
@RedPillAlways
@RedPillAlways 3 ай бұрын
BEN ATE DESTINY.. ATE HIM
@nickchivers9029
@nickchivers9029 3 ай бұрын
​@@RedPillAlways um, not really, they largely agreed on a lot of stuff just discussed what they prioritise in terms of strategy and solutions.
@kerzytibok3211
@kerzytibok3211 3 ай бұрын
@@RedPillAlways how? I saw Destiny destroying Shapiro on every issue.
@Holligan878
@Holligan878 3 ай бұрын
@@RedPillAlways @kerzytibok3211 I think it was pretty balanced, both had their moments. I would say that for education Ben did a much better job claiming ground that both would agree on and put it in opposition to Destinys points. I don't think Destiny should have accused Ben of trying to switch the topic as Ben clearly stated he sees it as the foundational issue (2 parent households). Destiny should have stresses that the absence of food safety and AC in schools is not just a needle but rather just as big of an issue when neglected. Even the kids with supportive parents would struggle greatly when the classroom gets too hot a few months out of the year and when they have to go hungry at times, it is actually a huge affect, which is why it is a no brainer to eliminate these issues in all schools. Ben did a much better job there representing his side.
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