Ben Wallace's Defense vs. Shaq (2004 Finals - Game 2)

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Ryan Van Dusen

Ryan Van Dusen

5 ай бұрын

June 8, 2004 - Shaquille O'Neal shot 9-of-13 from the floor when defended by Ben Wallace in Game 2 of the 2004 NBA Finals. Finishing 10-of-20 from the field overall, O'Neal's 29 points and 7 rebounds helped propel the Los Angeles Lakers to a 99-91 overtime victory, evening up their best-of-seven NBA Finals series with the Detroit Pistons.
All told, O'Neal averaged 26.6 points on .631 percent shooting in a five game series loss to the Pistons.
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@russenterprise6502
@russenterprise6502 4 ай бұрын
Shaq and Big Ben traded for each other in the offseason in 2009 that got Shaq to Cleveland to help LeBron get a ring but didn’t happen, meanwhile Ben didn’t play a single game for the Suns therefore they released him and return to the Pistons for 3 more seasons before retiring in 2012.
@user-dp5go8hr6w
@user-dp5go8hr6w 7 күн бұрын
Chemistry killed that 04 lakers team. Way too much dysfunction by that point with the Kobe drama and shaq possibly leaving. Then you add a tremendous defense in the pistons and the lakers just couldn’t overcome it with talent alone. They didn’t have the bond to work together.
@chriswilliams1024
@chriswilliams1024 5 ай бұрын
What a ture underdog story when the pistons beat the lakers in the 2004 nba finals.
@stevenqbosell
@stevenqbosell 5 ай бұрын
I think the Detroit Shock won the championship that year too, I watched the 2004 finals with a good friend who was DETROIT born and raised, I remember him saying "2004" is the year pf Detroit Basketball, he may not have been wrong lol
@BrownBrother27
@BrownBrother27 5 ай бұрын
​@@stevenqbosell The Detroit Shock won the championship in 2003...worst in 2002 to champions in 2003.
@Whiskyfan519
@Whiskyfan519 19 күн бұрын
Anyone that watched that pistons team that year knew that was no underdog team. That Lakers team was at each other's throats all year. Detroit was hardened from losing the previous year. They were efficient enough on offense and had one of the best defenses in the history of the league. Got key contributions from young players in the playoffs.
@jdspencer60
@jdspencer60 Күн бұрын
@@Whiskyfan519 This. They were the favorite if you actually know about basketball and watched that Pistons team. They were the "underdog" because LA always has flash scorer types. You could tell Detroit was going to shut them down and they did. Lakers couldn't even muster 70 points in game 3
@kevingavin1864
@kevingavin1864 16 сағат бұрын
Love hearing from all these Laker fans still in denial! This was the only win for the Lake show in that series.
@user-zy5ks4ym7y
@user-zy5ks4ym7y 3 ай бұрын
4:15 wasnt a foul.
@RavinManiac
@RavinManiac 5 ай бұрын
I always find it laughable when they say Ben Wallace was one of the few people who Shaq couldn't dominate. Shaq was the top scorer in the 2004 Finals with a high field goal percentage. And if you watched the Finals closely, Elden Campbell did a better job defending Shaq in the post.
@AndrewCantonTV
@AndrewCantonTV 5 ай бұрын
Your correct I remember. Elden had more weight on him which made him be able to contain him a lil bit more
@Swove2204
@Swove2204 5 ай бұрын
Now that you mention it, here’s Elden Campbell’s defensive sampler on O’Neal from that series (taken from Games 2 & 3): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKydmpeDnrbSm4U.htmlsi=zQ_6McyI-8zNnr5w
@stevenqbosell
@stevenqbosell 5 ай бұрын
Elden Campbell was cool as a Laker, glad he won a ring with the Pistons in 04
@RavinManiac
@RavinManiac 5 ай бұрын
@Swove2204 that is awesome, great work! As a huge Shaq fan, I always gave Elden props and I've been telling that to my friends. Now I can show them proof haha
@adama2292
@adama2292 5 ай бұрын
The point people make was that he allowed Detroit to have their own center taking Shaq straight up without getting destroyed too badly. Yes Shaq had good numbers but he was always even better the number suggested because if you played him straight he's doing an hyper efficient 35, if you don't and bring a ton of help, you end up giving space to LA's shooters and Kobe. Shaq had a good series but LA still had a bad offense because Detroit could still focus on the rest of the team, especially Kobe.
@claytonphillips85
@claytonphillips85 3 ай бұрын
I miss those old school rims
@backpackerjohnny16
@backpackerjohnny16 4 ай бұрын
Of course Shaq is like 7 feet tall and Ben is only like 6’7. Shaq probably out weighs him by like 80lbs. Look at the size difference from the video. I like Ben but nobody can stop shaq
@xavierochoa2648
@xavierochoa2648 13 күн бұрын
Yao Ming held him to 16 ppg in 2004 playoffs look it up. Shaq couldn’t move Yao.
@jdspencer60
@jdspencer60 Күн бұрын
Ben is 6'9"
@WeetbixDestroyer
@WeetbixDestroyer 4 сағат бұрын
@@jdspencer60 in shoes maybe in reality he is 6'7 and a half
@Ezekial2517
@Ezekial2517 5 ай бұрын
Shaq was still dominant but he was also so out of shape. Some of these ridiculous looking layup attempts should have been dunks. Knowing what we know about the two superstars now, I don’t blame Kobe for trying to do it himself anymore. It must have been frustrating to know Shaq put half the work in that Kobe did and was still the focal point of the team, and would ultimately take the credit again if they won.
@bubufubu
@bubufubu 5 ай бұрын
*Allowed* to dominate. Fixed.
@jakerojas4756
@jakerojas4756 2 ай бұрын
Who cares who tries hardest. It's who's best
@jdspencer60
@jdspencer60 Күн бұрын
Kobe actually was a huge detriment to the team trying to do it all. I think it was game 4 where he couldn't buy a bucket
@theofficialgreenkane9645
@theofficialgreenkane9645 3 күн бұрын
“Kobe to Malone, Malone to O’NEAL!” Think about those words 🤯
@jdspencer60
@jdspencer60 Күн бұрын
Not really overwhelming since they lost so badly in the rest of the series. Karl Malone was basically a non-factor
@theofficialgreenkane9645
@theofficialgreenkane9645 Күн бұрын
@@jdspencer60 Just the HOF names involved in that call 🤯
@ayske1
@ayske1 5 ай бұрын
I stopped watching NBA after Jordan's last ring but even this was watchable vs today's game
@omcritzy
@omcritzy 2 ай бұрын
If you liked that era then you should stop watching basketball now. It's pretty offense dominated.
@moses0686
@moses0686 Ай бұрын
Look how far shaq is from the basket. He ate but him having catch and post up from 10-15 ft instead of 5-10 ft really messed up the rhythm
@alexh8613
@alexh8613 4 ай бұрын
39-32 with 2 minutes left in the half. The most physical era in NBA history...by far
@stephaneh1934
@stephaneh1934 Ай бұрын
The defense was clean still
@ndnd7614
@ndnd7614 9 күн бұрын
The most bricks in an era
@nonamewillbegiven1217
@nonamewillbegiven1217 6 сағат бұрын
It's not. Nice try smooth brain
@33690
@33690 Ай бұрын
👍🏻
@adamtait2696
@adamtait2696 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure I was cheering for the Blazers in this one
@adamtait2696
@adamtait2696 4 ай бұрын
With Fisher and Malone 😑
@chrislee3904
@chrislee3904 2 ай бұрын
its kinda funny poeple talking about hey detroit dismantled and destroyed la lakers.. shaq got dominated by ben wallace.. the reason why they lose is about team chemistry and their relationship that year they their best 1-2 punch are fighting each other kobe ballhogging egos killed outplayed them thats why that year shaq got traded to miami kobe this before he died 1 on 1 interview with shaq
@destinduckworth5484
@destinduckworth5484 2 ай бұрын
Stop making excuses, they’re lost fair and square
@robocock475
@robocock475 Ай бұрын
Blake Griffin would destroy Bengina Wallace in the paint
@TonyHerrera2023
@TonyHerrera2023 4 ай бұрын
If the Lakers had played the offense through Shaq those series. the finals would have been BBQ Chicken.
@ChrisM07
@ChrisM07 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what the Pistons did, they let Shaq go 1 on 1 without doubling him often so he would eventually be worn down in the 4th quarter. The rest of the Lakers struggling to score throughout the series wasn't by accident that was the Pistons gameplan to stay home on them. It was so easy to shut the Lakers down because Shaq was in the low block clogging the lane all the time and wasn't able to stretch the defense going further out.
@rayray5472
@rayray5472 3 ай бұрын
​​​@@ChrisM07that's true Shaq is double teamed or Zone Defensed nearly the whole series... Shaq scored easily on Big Ben one on one...
@ChrisM07
@ChrisM07 3 ай бұрын
@@rayray5472 Not throughout the entire series, G3 he was pretty much held in check and in G5 wasn't much of a factor either G4 was his best game and the Pistons still won that one convincingly. Like I said the Pistons single covered him often so he would be worn down by the 4th quarter then the Pistons would take over from there. Ben wasn't the only one defending him multiple guys were so Ben was able to stay out of foul trouble down the stretch.
@TonyHerrera2023
@TonyHerrera2023 3 ай бұрын
The Lakers Don’t played through Shaq enough because Kobe wanted be the man in those finals and he broke down the offense so many times. he admitted that he was wrong years later.
@ChrisM07
@ChrisM07 3 ай бұрын
@@TonyHerrera2023 Shaq got more touches in this series compared to the other series in the West which the Lakers won. Shaq is obviously tough to cover single handedly, but the Pistons had multiple good post defenders to guard him and wear him down a bit by the 4th where he was less effective when looking at the games. The Lakers not having Horry anymore played a factor as well considering his impact against the Pistons the following year w/the Spurs.
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