It’s horrible whiplash that winds up catching you softly

A wise man once said "if you can't explain something simply, you don't understand it well enough".🧐 Jordan does this amazingly with many things.

@@bradleymaguire7179 but don't you think that he's still trying to understand these things? he doesn't give out the impression that he fully comprehended what he's trying to explain to where there's nothing more cover, he gives the feeling that there's something important that he's trying to understand, and that he's still humblingly battling with.

@@cloud6501 but he still knows it well, yes there are many things he doesn't understand too. But he knows the things he talks about well. I never said he was a master in every aspect he talks about, I doubt he would say that too. But my point still stands that he knows them well enough to simplify them so others can understand too. You can't assume everyone has the same understanding of a topic that you possess. You see my point ?

It just means you can relate any concept (like eyes) and apply them to your purpose as long as you already have a script. The reason why you were confused to begin with is how people like Ben and Jordan make money.. by telling you what you want to hear to appease your comfort zone.

I’d say you just did

Maybe write then a letter/email? If you can. Support them. Share their stuff to other people who would benefit. Or buy their books/merchandise if they have one?

I started carnivore for chronic inflammation and it was a game changer. I’m also enjoying not having to think about food so much. 😂

You just did

I was suffering from rheumatoid arthritis in my cervical spine for almost 20 years (since about 15 years old) with no help from doctors. I just started a carnivore diet a couple weeks ago out of desperation. I never understood until now just how much my pain controlled and limited me. For the first time in almost 20 years I have drive. For the first time in almost 20 years I don't have to wrestle myself into doing something good for me and my family. On the personality scale I manifest in the single digits for Consientiousness, so this pain has been the greatest struggle in my life. And now the pain is gone. Thankyou.

This world would be alot for the better

It's only possible if they already have the same values and world view. Most people in power have opposing views so their discussions are naturally going to be contentious

@@jayak8217 I still think it's possible to be disagreeable and still accept and understand one another. Kinda like my brother and I just aren't the same person and argue alot. But we love each other no matter what and support one another whenever possible.

+1 sir u said it best

Did Peterson or Ben say something intelligent?

Absolutely!! It's like we're all just there having some coffee while wisdom is being shared freely...

@@zakreineke6674 Peterson or Shapiro said something intelligent? What?

Agreed

Lol, it is a show.

Society promotes dummying down across the board this reminds me not everyone is interested in being stupid

@@leahflower9924 ignorance is not bliss. Only when you are a baby

Amazing minds can save our world. Need more people like this.

Seriously! Best show format!

Right?!!!! It’s how I want my future husband to speak about me. Also gives me hope that 2 ppl can have a real honest respectful relationship!

@@amandalynnhesson2328 those are very real and legit goals! Speaking from past experiences. Insecure men tend to do none of these things. Learn to read the warning signs in bad mates ! Lol

She pegs him

Exactly

@Cheekytita BINGO! Isn't it ironic that while what you stated is 100% correct, Dr. Peterson has been assailed by the Left as being a 'misogynist' and 'women-hater' again and again. But, much like the Left's wanton (and reckless) use of the race card, if someone ACTUALLY LISTENS to what Dr. Peterson says, it's very evident he is VERY pro-women. But Peterson is assailed because he has balls and he tells the truth.

So beautiful! I love it! And she partook of the fruit against Adam’s choice, but in so doing brought him into the light of further knowledge and experience.

Does anyone here know the term he used in response to Ben introducing the adversarial element? "Something" processing. Where he demonstrates the concept with his hand moving against the other.

Sometimes to his detriment. Sometimes oftentimes. Depends on the woman and her goals. Pain is unavoidable, but also doesn't mean we have to be complacent about it and allow defects just because "I'm supposed to cause you pain and adversity." Important distinction, I think.

@DDT Grisch because being a Nigeria doesn’t mean you can not be named Felix Williams. It is like how a Nigeria can type English. Or win a Nobel prize in literature for English in literature. Nigerians have imitated foreign cultural medium.

@DDT Grisch lol. There's something called Colonization. Ever heard of it 😅?

He made you transphobic, misogynist and homophobic?

@@Artist-Lover lol. being left winged has fried your brain.

@@Awesome_felix😂

Stop tryna appear profound online Joe, get a life

he only became knowledgeable because he got this quality.

@@turkeybacon1199 thats kinda toxic mate

I noticed that as well :)

@@Alex-un1uf and what life do you live? Responding to people that respond to people that need to get a life?

I like your username. Fathers are so important

"It's just a vertical expression/of horizontal desire" --Bellamy Brothers.

These guys are more feminist than most liberated and woke people who claim female liberation from whoredom

Agree with you completely. It's too bad that common sense and intellect are so rare these days.

@@GeroLubovnik Amen!

Sameeee

What did you take away lol? That women need to be forced to bear children? Lmao

@@greenburg2276 ? Not really they are talking about the concept of women in a relationship and its sense throught a biblical point of view

hey there haveez

Shapiro is no giant or wise man. He has a small, cynical view of the world and he analyzes everything about life with that sort of disdain. He markets a dated conservatism to a naive audience that still buy into almost all of the establishment tropes, at the end of the day he is nothing more than a salesman and will not take a stand on any issue that could actually hurt his business model. Peterson has a truly unique balance of effective communication and depth that have made him something special. He’s no perfect genius, but he is the father figure that many people needed a few years ago.

@@brigadierharsh1948 way too much flex on your end, ben cannot be perfection in your eyes but still he's doing it better than anyone I know.

@@johannes6760 I used to feel that way, but I feel like he is becoming a net negative force. Groups like The Daily Wire and PragerU are pushing the sort of pre-Trump conservatism that entertained people like Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio for president, which should tell you just how unviable that is. Ben just cares about economics and foreign policy, his engagement with social issues seems to go no deeper than him just finding woke ideology to be irrational and weird. Even worse, he actively engages in cancel culture despite being one of its primary critics. He’s incredibly intelligent and knows exactly what he is doing, he’s enriching himself at the expense of the country and, at most, hoping he can return things back to 2008 or something. The absolute worst of the worst. Michael Knowles is pretty cool though.

Wisdom means you know these two sycophants are just telling you what you want to hear to sleep at night.

Drop the mike on that.🎤

@@constancemiller3753 literally

spot on ! He's so articulate

Yes!

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Brilliant.

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Watch him talking to the channel Femsplainers, I just came across it and was surprised with a name like that how great the two woman were with him. Recommend. 👍

When Jordan speaks I came unto my pants. He is right.

Lmao

What do you mean? Has something tragical happened to him?

Looks like the big man is sponsored by tiege hanley lol

Wow, thank you for sharing! Wish you nothing but the best.

I’m sure your father would be proud.

We all need to grow up sooner or later and that's what these two great men invite us to reconcile. We can only blame others for so long before we have to accept our childhood, realize our parents were imperfect and did the best they could with what they thought was right, and then choose to be better, responsible, and good. Good luck to you and your family. Have a wonderful holiday 🙏🕯🎄☃️🌬

This right here is what it’s all about! Good for you, man! Peterson has changed all of our lives for the better!

Yet some would have you think this man is evil

There's a line in Fiddler on the Roof... "Answering questions that would cross a rabbi's eyes!" The question about Hebrew words would have required some pretty specific research. And yet the more amazing thing is, when you trust the person you're talking with, it's okay to NOT know everything.

read more, read something

Too bad he doesn't afford that honesty to people who aren't his buddies.

Doc Pete lol I'm stealing that

Bare minimum

Jordan Peterson maybe, but ben Shapiro is not a "change your life" person. Really grasping at straws with that one

@@gxlorp hmm this is my experience and opinion on them and the impact of my life. I dont care what you think

Down the hole you go.

@@gxlorp bro who are you to say whether or not someone changed someone’s else’s life? 😂

That is so gratifying to hear! Hi, my name is Katya and I am also currently conducting research on how I can best support men in the realm of self-esteem, male sexuality, and connection with women on mental, emotional and physical levels. I am not selling anything. I want genuine info. If you are open to it, I would appreciate it if we could hop on a quick call and I could ask you a few questions. It is all confidential. What do you think? Let me know either way! If not, no worries, and Happy New Year!

You had us in the first half

@@sandroh7573 ikr

Good for you, man. You salvaged your mental health by dumping her.

@@sagatuppercut2960 It was simultaneously the proudest, happiest, and most devastating moment of my life. Funny how that works.

i’m happy you feel better now! ❤️

Good ice cream too

I can’t see the left matching a dialogue worth listening to like this…this is gold

u value "genuine" convos too much. Jordan was invited to speak amongst the highest ranking rabbis in Israel a couple years back. I like ben but this is entirely fake and rehearsed.

It's so perfect that this conversation came out the week after the cartoon of Ben and Jordan having a conversation came out. For those that haven't seen it yet here's the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rL6CltFzrNWzZ4U.html

@@firstlookpro7282 was going too say the same about the left having any conversation. But, consider that they basically would be, instead, forced by their position to argue that this conversation is completely invalid. What a waste of energy.

Ben or Jordan said something intelligent?

@@psychcowboy1 I don't get your comment... 🤔

@@DominikHemeli_93 You said it was a high quality interview. One of them said something intelligent? Where?

@@psychcowboy1 ... I talk about the quality of the production.

I think he was being polite. "Chaos" and the Hebrew word for life (Chaim) have zero etomological connection and I think Ben knows that.

I think Jordan was asking if the Hebrew word for "woman" had any connection to the Hebrew word for "life", but still the answer is no and I'm sure Ben knew that.

@@jedimmj11 nope, listen again. He asked about the word "chaos" since it sounded to him like "chai"

@@suzis5767 Did one of them say something intelligent?

However the fact that you've never before heard him say it also highlights something about Shapiro ;)

Ben is only mad when the Left tries to rape America

Are you Lebanese ?

If you get stressed listening to Ben talk, then you have issues you need to work on.

@@KurNorock he has issues to work on actually, like gishgalloping

@@user-hh5hs3zr5b Wrong. He doesn't gish gallop. Gish galloping applies exclusively to verbal debates and REQUIRES that the excessive number of arguments being made, are made without regard to those arguments accuracy. The fact is that when Ben is verbally debating, he does list off a large amount of supporting arguments, but each and every one of them can be fully supported, and he generally goes through and explains each and every argument he makes. There is ZERO gish galloping in Ben's debates. The problem is that you, and many other people, don't know what gish galloping actually is.

Insane, best cup of coffee you will ever have

How on earth they didn't just end up with 20 people pulling their chairs around that table is a mystery. Need to have Ben release the footage from the various angles so we can see how many times they had to edit out someone pulling up a chair or someone trying to nonchalantly lean their chair back to hear better, or someone feverishly taking notes in the background...

Everyone there just leveled up and didn’t even realize it

@@jasonleatiota1439 yeah I don't understand how no one seems to be paying attention to them. At the very lease they are two controversial public figures sitting in public filming themselves, you'd think they'd get stared at.

I feel you. As a matter of fact we don't have to reach the other goals first ❤

Me too

@Mitthenstein If that is your impression you seriously have not paid attention.

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@Mitthenstein Very elitist of you.

@Mitthenstein just about anyone who is enjoying this video would be open to reading your reasoned arguments instead of these ad hominem attacks. It’s easy to say “you have to a dimwit to enjoy this,” but JBP and Ben are not intellectual lightweights and no one really argues that. So please itemize and explain your misgivings so we can air them and all learn something.

@Mitthenstein can you explain further on what you disagree on? Or what's something that they said that you'd like to elaborate on?

Truly

Indeed

Hes ok

Many people are unable to constantly stare at another during conversation. It is normal to look away for a second or so.

That’s pretty bad because these topics are very elementary.

I watch JP stuffs and read his book when I need motivation or when I'm feeling too hopeless.

Peterson really is ASMR for people. It just washes over you and makes you feel good. Never mind actually critiquing what he says. Remember, he taught at Harvard and has citations!

It's hard to listen, my autism kicks in. I can't concentrate 😥

Same here. Like someone said he's my internet dad. Such a role model.

Legit same. Everytime I feel nhilistic I just read his book

Don’t just blame men. Women also share a lot of the blame

@@bronxboy1998 of course, but as men get stronger, feminism disappears. A strong man in his convictions does not let a woman walk all over him. That expands to society as a whole

I'm trying to get stronger, we all need to follow his example. We lived in a better world than we deserved and we took it for granted. Now we must win it back inch by inch.

@@wreccen exactly

There is a lot more nuance to our predicament than just blaming the weak. Strength is only part of the solution to our moral crisis

Nothing wrong with being formidable, but prudence in all things. It’s not always just about WHAT, it’s also WHEN, HOW, and WHERE.

Me too! According to a lot of different personality typing systems, I have a much more masculine temperament than most women, and that includes being high in Trait Disagreeableness. It makes it really hard to interact with most other women who are high in Trait Agreeableness. As @Sean Byers said, Trait Disagreeableness must be tempered with discretion and kindness… But still. It makes us very different than the majority of women’s temperaments.

I have to say, I'm more of a school sucks guy, I'm very attracted to passionate, artistic, more introverted and acadmeic focused girls. I am artistic, passionate but absolutely not academic focused. The amount of times I fall for the same kind of girl is insane, no idea why I fall for em but I simply do

@@milo_thatch_incarnate I would also add that “disagreeableness” is great when it comes to being mamma bear or not tolerating someone bad mouthing your husband or something. What’s interesting is how nuanced Christian marriage (i.e. relationship) advice actually is. On the one hand, it lays out a certain patriarchal structure (hang with me, here...) with the man/husband as the head. But the temptation to tyranny/abuse of strength is tempered by the admonition to essentially lead by sacrificing yourself for the good of your family in imitation of Christ. On the flip side, it admonishes women to be submissive to their husbands (i.e. accept their authority and support them). Sounds kinda mewling and whimpy until... It says that iron sharpens iron. So basically, it’s equal dignity, different roles, male headship, female support, but support doesn’t mean “without challenge”, all nestled under the command to “love one another as I have loved you”. It’s beautiful. It’s perfect. But not always easy.

@@seanbyers6736 Very well said. I completely agree. It took me a WHILE to agree to all of that, because as I said, I'm naturally a Trait Disagreeable, smart, strong, independent, business-minded woman. I work WELL on my own. But _really studying_ Proverbs 31 largely led to my wholehearted acceptance of God's originally designed gender roles, because the "woman after God's own heart" of Proverbs 31 is a business woman herself! Her husband is recognized and praised at the gates of the city BECAUSE of the strong, industrious woman everyone knows has his back and runs his household. And I love that.

You learned something?

@kingsquid ....like you?!! Pompous fraud.

@kingsquid dude this is the exact sort of mentality that stops mental growth. She didn't push anyone down. She didn't insult anyone. She's not demeaning anyone. She literally just stated that she finds truth and satisfaction in her way of life, and for some reason you have a problem with it... Ironic considering you're telling her to "life her life however you see fit", but also telling her to stop talking about herself and her own personal perspectives. So, which is it? Are you telling her to "life her life however..." she sees fit, or does she have to not talk about herself, her opinions, or her feelings because you feel that it SOMEHOW pushes other people down?

AMY BAMES FROM PQ CANADA. What is less beautiful and they spare us is TANK GOD EVERY DAY FOR NOT BEING A WOMEN IS the first phrase of the TORAH and with 5 kids do not forget to be a mother not a friend for your kid, I WAS the pilot but no copilot my wife was with the children in the back.IN vacation I was staying in a condo with my sister and husband .HER husband said to me PIERRE YOUR boy is 5 and when your not there its your son who run the show with her mother,and at 18 he commit a crime.

@@pierrebeausoleil5885 what's worse than a liberal/leftist Canadian..?! A liberal/leftist FRENCH CANADIAN 😤😭❕

@kingsquid OK, you don't want her to elevate herself by putting others down, which she obviously did not do in her post. So let me take this opportunity to elevate her and her way of life as superior, because in simple terms, motherhood, especially that which is fortified by a loving marriage, is so much superior to anything else attributable to a human being, across cultures and across time. I admire my wife for a lot of reasons, but primarily and most importantly because she is the mother of my child.

What capacity lmao

@@adventurefaps9571 the capacity that allows his thoughts to slow down in order for him to verbally announce and in order..........

JP is going on a speaking tour in 2022. KZfaq has a short video of the dates and places. Good luck.

cringe

Consciousness and attention are isomorphic, consciousness is the mechanism that generates proximal solutions, proximal solutions have to be made subordinate to respect for the process, in psychotherapy you let people talk, it is curative, you circulate around what bothers you, if you confront fears you become courageous, if you are speaking freely you are trying to investigate, if you desire the truth, is that the super ordinate value?

@@Matt-dl2iy attention

I've seen him a few times in lectures, and met him once! He's a lovely, kind hearted, sweet, funny man. So many people line up to tell him their problems; I merely wanted to thank him and wish him well. He's gold.

I was imagining a gong strike instantly after hearing him say that! 🤯

I like this Stephen, thanks for your comment, I totally agree!

Agree

I said I would only marry someone who I was best friends with...waited until I was 37 to find the right one...sadly 10 years later, a little pot now and then turned into a drug habit for him and he is a very different person now.

I legit just cried... Why am I like this

Niezsche said the same thing.

🎅🏿

I agree we are really hungry for it! Joseph, my name is Katya and I am also currently conducting research on how I can best support men in the realm of self-esteem, male sexuality, and connection with women on mental, emotional and physical levels. I am not selling anything. I want genuine info. If you are open to it, I would appreciate it if we could hop on a quick call and I could ask you a few questions. It is all confidential. What do you think? Let me know either way! If not, no worries, and Happy New Year!

That would be cool but I don't think this would happen! They are both very busy with what there are doing! Jim, my name is Katya and I am also currently conducting research on how I can best support men in the realm of self-esteem, male sexuality, and connection with women on mental, emotional and physical levels. I am not selling anything. I want genuine info. If you are open to it, I would appreciate it if we could hop on a quick call and I could ask you a few questions. It is all confidential. What do you think? Let me know either way! If not, no worries, and Happy New Year!

I really don’t think Ben would want to. There’s such a thing as being too long-winded and absolutely horrendously boring.

@@ThrdWrldGrl He's alright. He has his moments. Why would he be so viral?

A proper conversation? JP just goes on and on endlessly with total meaningless sophistry dressed up with big words while Ben goes "mhm" over and over because he can hardly understand him.

@@jerrodshack7610 just because you can't grasp what he's saying, doesn't make it meaningless. If that's what you took from.the entire video, I suggest you go read a book instead of commenting on KZfaq.

what did u learn from this video? :)

Yes, it is stimulating to have conversations like this! James, my name is Katya and I am also currently conducting research on how I can best support men in the realm of self-esteem, male sexuality, and connection with women on mental, emotional and physical levels. I am not selling anything. I want genuine info. If you are open to it, I would appreciate it if we could hop on a quick call and I could ask you a few questions. It is all confidential. What do you think? Let me know either way! If not, no worries, and Happy New Year!

@@jerrodshack7610 just say you can’t comprehend lol.

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Thank you, this was really insightful

Well said.

Thank you Lisa for your comment!

Need more women like you giving advice like this. It's nearly impossible to find a decent woman these days, at least in my experience.

It took me decades to understand that making money meant nothing, everything you’ve done is forgotten within a decade of your dying if not sooner. Jobs replace you and someone fills your spot seamlessly, as if you never existed. The things you bought grow dusty and passé with time. Only in your kids and grandkids do you exist as something tangible for generations. I wish someone had told me this when I was being frustrated at motherhood. When I felt like my life was hijacked by the very miracle that only women can perform, though only with a man’s help. Men cannot be women, ever. How dare they assume they can be the carriers and nurturers of life. They have a role, a dad is an awesome figure in our lives. Why are women content to accept this societal demand that we step down for gender identification? I care not who you feel you are, be what you feel. But you will never carry the ability to grow life. True, some women can’t, but that’s recognized as not normal, and so many friends of mine have grieved that they weren’t able to conceive. I know I’m going on about this, but truth came slowly to me. I hope it doesn’t to others.

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@@mikelisteral7863 lol

@@mikelisteral7863 that was absolute gold

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There is no ultimate role for women…or for men. I find this line of thinking particularly bothersome coming from those that insists we treat people as individuals, and not judge them as members of groups based on immutable characteristics. If it’s “racist” to assume a man is a criminal because he is black (13% of population), Then what would you call a person telling 50% of the population that their ultimate role in life is to become a breeder? Maybe that’s true for you, or even true for most women…but certainly not all. The best thing we can do is to treat women as individuals, and let them make their own decisions…which thankfully, is the current status quo (barring Texas, and Mississippi).

@@anolisa1939 I agree. But you forget men have roles too. In your world, no one has roles and society is messed up with nothing that is conducive to human growth. I agree that everyone should have a choice. And they already have.

@@anolisa1939 Without "breeders" you wouldn't be here. Why so negative about those who choose to have children? Seems short sighted.

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@@anolisa1939 This is interesting and like Ben mentions in the video, the woman is called in Hebrew ezer (helper/there is even a “deliverer” aspect to it as God is usually Israel’s ezer in a time of need ) kenegdo (his opposite/or his match). Adam names the animals and finds not a ezer kenegdo, so he makes one from him. God had to make a match equal to him to be his partner, as everything else was unfit. Genesis 1 even calls the man AND the woman made in the image of God. It is the unity of man and woman that more accurately reflect God. Together they rule over creation as God’s stewards, the man has his own strengths but so does the woman. She reflects God in a way man can’t, and is why God even compares his love and loyalty to Israel to a mother who will not leave her new born child. Women image God in ways men can’t but it’s the pair that better reflect him and rule correctly. Like a yin and yang. Think of parenting, a child needs both the mothers nurturing ability (generally) with the father’s strength and leadership for healthy development. That’s only the beginning in Genesis 1 & 2 but it doesn’t stop as Genesis 3 reveals another aspect of their symbiotic rule of the earth. In ch. 1 God tells humanity to “be fruitful and multiply”. This does not mean to only have babies. Their job as God’s imagers were/are to rule over creation under God’s wisdom. The man’s “fruitfulness” was his labor, working the ground. The woman’s “fruitfulness” was her ability to bear children. Not saying this was all men and women are good for but this is a general picture of the couple living in symbiosis spreading the garden, which was their calling (spreading God’s rule to the ends of the earth). This is clear as when man and woman sin by eating the fruit, they cover themselves up (intimacy lost), and are cursed. The curses are to the woman: PAIN in child bearing and a desire to rule her husband (so a power struggle from then on) And to the man: ground is cursed because of him and he will work the ground in PAIN. Notice the hindrance to be fruitful in their respective fields (pain to be fruitful to both). Their sin hindered their ultimate calling, and their relationship took a blow. I’ma just stop now but there’s so much.

Read the Bible. Read the Bible. Read the Bible. Once you get familiar with it and comfortable with it, you will be able to better see and avoid people who are trying to trick you. People checked to see if Paul was teaching correctly by checking what he said with the Bible (Acts 17:11). God's word is truth. His word stands. Lean on Him to teach you.

@@hoguejp Yes, I agree. I do my best to do my own studying. However, I can sometimes get lost in the language used. So, listening to people like him and others helps me gain a better, and perhaps, deeper understanding. Thank you for your advice. Merry Christmas.

@@jmcg_8 Merry Christmas to you too!

I'd highly recommend an actual hobby. Reading fiction is fine its when you start thinking it's real that it becomes a problem.

@@ultimomos5918 you misunderstood me. I speak and read English, I’m not suggesting I’m ignorant. No one uses the language the King James Bible does. It’s a lost art translating that. I know Bible’s are translated more ways, but the changes and decisions made are too broad and different from version to version.