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2 жыл бұрынBenson (Mariska Hargitay) meets Barba (Raúl Esparza) for a drink to thank him for taking on a tricky case and then tells him why she felt like he betrayed her during the Wheatley trial.
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@lovelee3890 Жыл бұрын
God…. Barba really did age like fine wine
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
He aged handsomely
@gabygaby5701 4 ай бұрын
He looks gorgeous. Such a handsome and elegant guy
@ethanshusband8913 12 күн бұрын
what season and episode?
@Angel-hn1th Жыл бұрын
How she fell for everyone but Barba is beyond me.
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
She’s an impossible character to understand sometimes
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
Rafael Barba was the best man for her and she just tossed him away like that. Not a good idea and not a good move, Olivia
@PiazzaGurl Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! And he’s clearly still in love with her and is hoping that she wakes up and realizes that’s he’s there and he’s always been there.
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
Barba is the perfect match for her and she's just pushing him away. Shameful
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
@@PiazzaGurl Right
@l9898_ 2 жыл бұрын
the man really said stabler is a bully, you have daddy issues, I love you and I'll still be here when you are ready, in less than 30 sec.😎 Okay Barba tell me how you really feel
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
Truth to be told. Sure Liv is not happy with that. But she knows Barba will be there to collect the pieces if she falls apart.
@timbuyoti1198 2 жыл бұрын
Nice summary 😂 spot on 👌
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
don't know if he would feel ok meeting Olivia pretty often around 60Center Str and knowing she is happy with some one else. (Stabler),,,,
@preciouswilliams22 2 жыл бұрын
It's the AUDACITY for me, & I loved EVERY SINGLE MINUTE OF IT😂😂😂 Barba & Benson season 24, let's go🔥🔥
@2nriter 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on! Awesome summation!
@gideonstivers5287 2 жыл бұрын
I miss: - Stephanie March - BD Wong - Diane Neal - Richard Belzer - Marcia Gay Harden - Tamara Tunie
@SuperSoldier26 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?
@kahjatraylor2063 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@SuperSoldier26 2 жыл бұрын
I miss them too. Such good characters they are and who they've played
@rachelfigueroa3681 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Richard the most 😔 he was my favorite!!!
@Mochabeauty23 2 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@2nriter 2 жыл бұрын
He did so many things right here. He was her truth teller. He didn’t apologize for his actions but validated her feelings.He was not going to be a verbal punching bag and put that to an end when he stood up and left.. Man, I kind of fell a little bit in love with him myself during this clip. Never even considered her with anyone but Stabler, but at this point, it almost feels like Barba would be way healthier for her. Or maybe their relationship will not be actualized if she doesn’t have those romantic feelings for him in her heart, which is also OK, but she is richer for having a true friend who is a truth teller in her life.
@BeeDeBose_cpow 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely feels something for Rafael too. She’s just so wrapped up in Elliot. It’s why all of her relationships fail because she wants everyone to be Elliot but they will obviously never be Elliot. Rafael is the better choice but she will continue to put him on the back burner because Olivia Benson is foolishly in love with the wrong guy. 🤦🏽♀️
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeeDeBose_cpow I love your comment !
@ruadhrose Жыл бұрын
@@BeeDeBose_cpow Except Barba left her too. And he did it KNOWING all she’d been through. So is he really better than Elliot? Elliot was safe for Olivia to love because he was unavailable to pursue. He was married and committed to his family. Barba wasn’t. If they had feelings why not act on them??? Barba was a good friend but clearly lousy in the relationship department.
@Shayesbel87 Жыл бұрын
IN FULL AGREEMENT
@2nriter Жыл бұрын
@@ruadhrose He didn't leave her. Her drew the limits on being verbally abused. There is a difference.
@monicaw.3384 2 жыл бұрын
Her therapist was right. Liv has this idealized view of Stabler so it's held her hostage. Sadly no one would/will compare to him and that's why a lot of her relationships have failed. I love that Barba called her out. A true friend would. I have watched this show from season one and honestly, Liv went through a lot but her professional and especially her personal life got better once she accepted Stabler being gone. I want her to experience love; however, it can't be with Stabler. The beauty of their friendship is that nothing ever happened between them. Also, he could have chosen Olivia in past when he and Kathy separated but he didn't (Season 7). My vote is for Barba 🤷🏽♀️
@theresashelton7044 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly CONCUR!💞
@delmicortave 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same and I love the way you put it the beauty of Oliva and elliot friendship is that nothing ever happened or will happened between them.
@omarcogle1965 2 жыл бұрын
@@delmicortave Don't forget, Olivia said to Nick Amaro, when he was leaving that she grew with him in the 4 years she had with him as a partner then she did with Elliot in the 12 years she was with him.
@monicaw.3384 2 жыл бұрын
@@omarcogle1965 facts. Forgot about that 🤔
@rizzog3766 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you.Liv must stop idealize her relationship with Elliott and decide between them.Personnaly, I want Liv to be happy and she deserves it.I'm with Barba coz when she knew him she changed and she matured with Rafa and even got Noah. I want her to be with Barba coz he knows her and her story and want to be with her and Noah.
@aimeekessell5022 2 жыл бұрын
When she said she’s known him for 23 years, I wanna be like; “We just gonna pretend Stabler didn’t disappear without a word for 10 years and didn’t even call her once during that time?”
@williethomas5116 2 жыл бұрын
He called her out beautifully. How many times did Stabler cross the line in abusing suspect. Yeah, in the end the ends supposedly justified the means. But there were a few times when he was wrong and every time she protected him. She made excuses when he was out of line and constantly looked the other way because she cared about him. Here she learns Barbs defended a monster to protect her because one attempt on her life had been made. But she could barely offer a bit of empathy. Barba was right. If you love someone you can try to excuse anything.
@paulina2163 2 жыл бұрын
Even if she had said the amount of time that they've been talking which is fifteen years, it's more than she's known Barba. Elliot was her closest friend and confidante. He hurt her, but she's chosen to let him back in her life. Rafael has to respect that. It just seems like he has no respect after bringing up Olivia's "fatherless" past, considering her father was her mother's rapist.
@jacory354 2 жыл бұрын
But it was different he's wife died she knew the family she knew the he's kids since they were little.
@vmaninc.761 2 жыл бұрын
Stabler wouldn't have done what Barba did he wouldn't have allow himself to be used that way, he wouldn't allow someone guilty force him to attack someone innocent just to protect her, she understood why he didn't reach out to her all those years after the shooting of a child she may have not liked how he did it but she understood none the less hence why she could easily forgive him when he came back into her life for as he admitted if she did ask him to stay he would have and that essentially would have doomed his marriage to his wife, as much as he was in love with Olivia he still loved his wife enough to remain faithful to her and kept his heart true to her which is why they are perfect for each other and no one will ever change my mind on that I will die on this hill proudly Tony Stark/ Iron Man style!BENSLER FOREVER!!!!😘😉👍
@magzjay2458 2 жыл бұрын
@@vmaninc.761 more excuses. He abandoned her. She went through so much and he was no where to be found. She was always there for him. She forgave him so quickly
@togemon4707 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get Huang, Melinda, Novak and Cabot back too?
@davidburke2132 2 жыл бұрын
I always loved him as a character. Him and Jack McCoy were by far my favourite DAs in the Law and Order franchises. They felt like those kind of lawyers who you really hope exist… the ones motivated by principle and getting the right result (although to be fair Jack in particular does some sneaky things over the years to try to get an end result 😜) and who are smart enough to pull it off most of the time.
@spankytank82 2 жыл бұрын
I want Huang back so bad
@briandavidson1946 2 жыл бұрын
They will all return fir BENSLERS MARRIAGE
@JamaicanRain 2 жыл бұрын
Huang, especially. He’s smart and calm and IDK if it is the actor shining through instead of Huang, but anyway, Huang!!! Getting rid of him was awful.
@007private 2 жыл бұрын
are you stalking my dreams 🤣🤣lol jk but yes i would love at least 2 out of 3 of them !! lol
@markcaldwell2831 2 жыл бұрын
Barba was the best DA and one of the few reasons I got hooked on SVU after he turned up.
@tyresmith9833 2 жыл бұрын
Barba was right tho. Olivia puts Elliot on this high pedestal as if he could or haven’t done no wrong. She lets her feelings for him cloud her judgement way too much sometimes and covers it up as I’ve known him for 23 years. You know him but yet he abandoned you for 10 years without a call or letter and as soon as he came back, she was once again putting him on that pedestal. I love Olivia, but she needs to stop. Throughout the first 12 years, Stabler did a lot of things that were unprofessional and out of line and every time he got in trouble, she protected him.
@ABirdOnTheMoon 2 жыл бұрын
This .. she is all that teen with puppy eyes when he shows up .. Nothing more humiliating than leading her up then leaving all of a sudden [for his wife and to save his marriage and family] and everyone in the station knew .. it wasn't a secret. Olivia sold herself cheap when she decided she will love him no matter what .. she put him higher than herself. He walked all over her before .. broke the system a few times and she cover for him .. He is not a decent guy .. he has his flaws but somehow .. she sees none .. She "knows him" .. and that's why he keeps screwing her up!? I mean .. she is seriously delusional .. I don't watch the show now but I truly wish he walks away again .. breaks her heart again because .. if not .. she is the side cake .. kept on the side .. for whenever he pleases .. he'll come back and taste it!?
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
@@ABirdOnTheMoon exactly how I feel .... He can treat her like an underdog again, she will be fine. She is not a strong woman, she behaves like a groupie.
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
@@ABirdOnTheMoon hahahahaha good one
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
@@claudinefaure9090 or like a child
@claudinefaure9090 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSoldier26 yes exactly!
@cche16 2 жыл бұрын
finally everyone is telling olivia the harsh truth. no more denying a 23 year emotional affair. kathy was saying the same thing to stabler for years. she has no choice but to confront these feelings. barba is right. she always excuses his behaviour and what he did was worse. he abandoned her when he was the only family she had and the only stable man in her life.
@bbycheeks25 2 жыл бұрын
Yassss!!!!!
@kephrenh 2 жыл бұрын
It’s strange that we are judging someone negatively for putting his wife and kids first. Was he supposed to stay around, torn between the duty to his family and love for Olivia? And let’s even entertain the idea that he left his wife back then for her. Would Olivia really be with him? We are talking about a woman who still doesn’t know what she feels about him after 20 years. And if she did, would that relationship survive the hurt it caused to Elliot’s family?
@tori2dles 2 жыл бұрын
@@kephrenh - Though I gave you a 👍🏼 for the first part of your statement, as I agree that we shouldn’t cheer on the prospect of an affair or the demise of a marriage. However, I’m not quite sure you know the back story exactly. Apologies if you do know it and I’m not sharing anything new. Elliot & Kathy had been trying to make things work for a long, long time before the decision was made to split. But then Kathy found out she was pregnant and, being very good Catholics, they remained married and had the baby. So that is when Elliott took the job overseas. You see, the abandonment was not so much that Stabler left, but it was the way he did it. He didn’t tell Liv to her face that he’d made the decision to leave NYC. He just did it and left Cragen (their Captain at the time) to tell her. Stabler left without a word and remained silent all those years he was away. So THAT was the abandonment she speaks of - just that void of silence.
@kephrenh 2 жыл бұрын
@@tori2dles I am not sure he would have been able to leave if he faced her. I think that’s why he left the way he did. It was wrong but safer for both of them.
@maryjordan6 2 жыл бұрын
Elliot and Olivia are very similar: devoted to the truth and justice. Elliot couldn’t break his family, Olivia couldn’t break Stabler family although they were in love. Elliot knew that the only way was to disappear. Lot of hurt, but he had another 10 year of the “happy family”. And now… let’s face their destiny: happy together.
@thespace2983 2 жыл бұрын
When he said, “I do know what it is to love someone unconditionally” I bawled. He loves her but she is devoted to Elliot. Deeply flawed Elliot. Gos this episode was so emotional. Seeing Barba again😍
@TennantJunkie1993 2 жыл бұрын
Raf was talking about Yelina.
@jazzyjonas6646 2 жыл бұрын
@@TennantJunkie1993 who was she?
@TennantJunkie1993 2 жыл бұрын
@@jazzyjonas6646 Alex's wife. Raf had feelings for her at some point but Alex won her over with his charismatic charm.
@vintagetvandexciting 2 жыл бұрын
@@TennantJunkie1993 yes I could watch that episode over and over again when Barba tried to saved Alex's reputation but Alex antagonize Barba saying "Yelina is the only one, I'm sorry that still hurts!"
@naturistfred 2 жыл бұрын
Are we supposed to buy that Barba is in love with Olivia? 👀
@kastrie89 Жыл бұрын
Rafa really would've been the ideal man for her. For ten years, she heard not one word from Stabler...he suddenly shows up and now, its like she's forgotten all rhyme and reason. Rafa was right to call her out. I always knew on some level he loved her, like how hurt he was when he found out that she and Tucker were involved. However, the beauty in his love for her is that he doesn't sugarcoat the truth; he tells her exactly what it is and the truth is, she had no right to ask him not to defend Wheatley nor does she get to feel betrayed by him. He had the right to make that decision for himself and she needed to respect him, regardless.
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he did call her out
@kastrie89 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSoldier26 So am I. To me, he really was the only one that wasn't afraid to call her out on anything.
@alexandraanderson3988 Жыл бұрын
He has no right to do that 👍▶️ its none of his business 😭😔 just like the tucker situation which he sticked his nose is was none of his he doesn't even know her like that the way stabler does plus their relationship has been nothing but professional relationship all these years when he was still a lawyer
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
That's right and he was right to call her out and to speak his mind. YES AND D**N RIGHT!!!!
@SuperSoldier26 8 ай бұрын
Right you are @kastrie89. Right you are my friend
@sadia_ 2 жыл бұрын
Stabler ABANDONED Liv. He left for 11ish years WITHOUT a word. Without a note. Nothing. Whereas Rafa has been through thick and thin with Liv since then! The line 'i do know what it's means to love someone unconditionally' 😢❤️❤️ oh Barba, we love you.
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@maxcardun 3 ай бұрын
Well you also have to take into account what drove Stabler to quit the SVU, why he left the way he did, and also take into account that he was MARRIED at the time!
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
@@maxcardun don't do that. Don't put him on a high pedestal like Olivia does
@maxcardun 2 ай бұрын
@@SuperSoldier26 From what I observed from his recent actions, Barba used Richard Weatley's defense task as an escuse to make an attempt to make Elliot look bad, with all those subtle messages about obsession and him being undercover, and using the defense of Delia Hackman as an escuse to try to talk nice to Benson while she was on the stand, seeing as she was not talking to him because she asked him not to defend the worst organized crime boss in New York. Even Carisi did not appreciate that let alone Barba's presence in the courtroom. No... I'm not saying that I am one of those people who want Elliot and Olivia to get a room, ( I rather enjoy the fact that these two are not giving the "fans" what they want.) but despite his many flaws Elliot did not make any subtle messages against Barba, nor did he make any personal jabs against him, even if it could have helped that attempted ruse which put Wheatly's Trial into a hung jury turned mistrial.
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely and is the perfect man for him
@mulanijohnson8936 2 жыл бұрын
OMG Did Barba just Admit to Loving / In Love with Benson🤔❤️🥺I Miss The Old Days with The Old Original Cast.
@endah6958 3 ай бұрын
And unconditionally at that
@b.n1429 7 күн бұрын
Barba would have been good for Liv.
@skepple1554 Жыл бұрын
That “Rafa” holy I could feel the emotion in that
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@G-man22 Ай бұрын
@@user-lw8es4ru2h season 23 episode 22
@fizzybubbles715 Жыл бұрын
Anyone here anxiously anticipating Barba’s return?
@Ali_Poison Жыл бұрын
Me after watching this episode for fisrt time today. Tell me if Barba came on s24?
@fizzybubbles715 Жыл бұрын
Nope, at least not yet. Really hoping the 2nd half will deliver!
@JojoIi-ym4vs 11 ай бұрын
@@Ali_Poisonwhich episode is this?
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
@@JojoIi-ym4vsA Final Call At Forlinis
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
I wish he would return
@SuperSoldier26 8 ай бұрын
2:24-2:52 The way he responded to Olivia when she was calling him by saying "What?" shows that he is pissed off
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@oliviabarnes9007 2 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that this series was extremely well done, and this scene is just a testament to that! I think what really "works" here is not just what is being said but also what is said between the lines so to speak. Both Esparza & Hargitay are fantastic actors you can really see it in their body language and subtle facial expressions as well as in their eyes. In my opinion everything that Barba said was on point and truthfully Liv needed to hear it. I have been amazed how much she has forgiven Stabler even after he left her for ten years. While Barba & Benson is not a pairing I would have originally chosen, I think it would be interesting for the writers to explore this.
@thelmacastaneda6785 Жыл бұрын
I agree I truly believe that barba loves Liv, but is also in love with Liv. He’s been her confidant for years now and he’s been so loyal and I love their relationship, I think they should’ve explored the possibility of an actual intimate relationship. I also like Langan, not just cause he’s Harkitays husband irl but cause I actually believe they make an interesting couple after he helped Liv with Noah’s adoption
@claudinefaure9090 Жыл бұрын
And after he came back on the show, he ghosted her again,,, because he was undercover. But as soon he is in danger, after he did some drugs, he reached to her place as his safe place, his harbor and his rescue .. Both of them played the emotions very well.
@ashleygrant3131 Жыл бұрын
Great point- I agree with all of it except for her and barba being together… her and stabler have to somehow find a way!
@rosehollis9639 Жыл бұрын
I I think people keep forgetting why Elliot left Elliot lost because they shot a girl named Jenna it was a breaking point for him when he came back he told Liv if I heard your voice I wouldn't have left he he didn't leave her out of spite or to be mean he just couldn't handle it anymore so while everyone out is judging him I understand I am bipolar 63 yrs old and get where he was coming from he wasn't the bad guy
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@bandfan3480 2 жыл бұрын
dang barba and facial hair - its working for him :)
@chloe_3787 2 жыл бұрын
Come on, NBC, bring back Alex or Casey or both, give Olivia some friends, and let her talk this all out with them. Or even send Liv out to dinner with Amanda. Anything to give her a female friendship she can rely on.
@ryanhall7827 2 жыл бұрын
shes alone they always have been trying to show she has trouble making friends and forming relationships for some reason
@angelface101ful 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhall7827 when in reality she doesn’t have an issue
@angelface101ful 2 жыл бұрын
Yess!!!! That’d be so nice
@ryanhall7827 2 жыл бұрын
@@angelface101ful i guess its not dramatic enough when her personal life is going well so they can have this really terse conversation instead of having a nice conversation about how much they really care for eachother since they want to keep bensler rumors alive instead noah is the only nice interactions she has when it could be way more people
@lepjagman 2 жыл бұрын
She's not friends with Rollins?
@melissatorres9151 2 жыл бұрын
"I miss you" ❤
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@SellavinAtoms 2 жыл бұрын
The tension between them is so thick even a knife wouldn't cut it.
@icoleman150 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I watched this episode and I still don’t think Barba did anything he needed to apologize for. He is a defense attorney, he took on a client and he didn’t know or owe Stabler anything. Benson can’t dictate what cases he takes. I’m over Stabler quite frankly.
@nadiahassan5307 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU yes 👍🏻
@kuywasaamazikeen8048 2 жыл бұрын
Me too ffs
@sell8789 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the scene for spoilers and I can't believe he apologised. He is trying to make amends with Olivia, but Barba has not regretted the decision he made. Olivia is the one who needs to stop being such a child.
@anniebunny722 2 жыл бұрын
Barba doesn’t owe or need to apologize to Liv for anything here. It’s all on her and how she feels. Barba is right in that Wheatley is dead. But, on her side, this was a man who hurt another friend and his family, people she’s known for years. Liv is still holding onto this grudge I think because she can’t decide between Stabler and Barba. That’s my personal take. Even if things don’t become romantic between her and Barba, I still want him in her life, being a best friend that he was to her when Elliot was gone.
@coreyjohnston9195 2 жыл бұрын
Liv needs to get over it damn.
@Mania008 2 жыл бұрын
Why Liv acting like Stabler didn't disappear for 10 years without even contacting her.
@lifewithlaysia. 2 жыл бұрын
When you love someone so much you can out look their biggest flaw it’s sad but true
@Rosetrellis 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Rafa was always there for her no matter what, he was there both times she was kidnapped and her son and Elliot didn’t even call to ask if she was ok. I am team Barson all the way!!
@dar-mar 2 жыл бұрын
Elliot did put his family first. He would’ve never left them for Liv, no matter how much some wanted him to, or how much he wanted to, that was always out of his character. So as much as it sucked that he left without saying bye I think deep down they both knew why
@Rosetrellis 2 жыл бұрын
@@dar-mar oh no, I get why he did what he did, it’s a lot of really bad things happened to her in the time he was gone and I think she could have really needed even just a text from him.
@dar-mar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rosetrellis from what I saw before, apparently there was a deleted scene where he sent her a badge and that’s the one that’s been glued to the “butt” of her gun (until she got kidnapped and nearly killed by it and now it’s in the evidence locker or something). But also once he left, I don’t think he had any clue what was going on with her, if he did wage would’ve showed up. But you also gotta keep in mind that at the time there was no talk about Meloni coming back to the show at all, he was as good as dead. So perhaps now they could put in the show that he finds out everything that happened to her while he was gone to show he had no idea about anything, rather than that he didn’t care, which would be, again, totally out of character for him. I think if he knew, and even told his wife “yo, Liv nearly died etc”, I don’t think she would’ve stopped him from contacting her. Because of the way show was moving on without Chris, we just kind of have to forget all those things he SHOULD’VE done all those years, cause his return was not in the cards then.
@rubyr6358 Жыл бұрын
Rafael Barba is one of the most refreshing and original characters on television in recent history. This scene just proves that and more. I believe Liv/Barba and Liv/Elliot have completely different relationship dynamics (as they should) and I for one am extremely pleased to see such a healthy approach to platonic friendships in mainstream media. There's boundary setting, mutual love and respect and an instant connection on a few deeper levels. Rafa all but declaring his unconditional love for Liv is a) iconic and b) shows that hetero platonic friendships can be emotionally intimate without that "something more" (thank you, Dr Lindstrom). Is my bias for an EO endgame clouding this opinion? Most likely. I also believe the chemistry between the two isn't strong enough for that romantic connection that the likes of Carisi/Rollins has, let alone Liv/Elliot (which again, the chemistry (and yes, toxicity - let's be honest) is on a whole other level). TLDR; Hargitay and Esparza absolutely knock this scene out of the park and I would give many things to see reparations play out in the new season.
@rhemaime-albert6089 Жыл бұрын
I see a healthy Platonic friendship more with Fin, I think theres more to Liv and Barba and Liv and Elliot. Liv and Elliot were basically having an emotional affair for years. I think with Barba it truly was a friendship that grew into more complex feelings that neither of them have quite unpacked.
@gjln5424 Жыл бұрын
I do not think the relationship between Barba and her simply platonic. If it was, even with a bad disagreement, there would not be this level of angst. It started out that way for sure, but somewhere in the later part of his run, it is quite clear that Barba had started falling for her. You can see it in the later seasons, especially in Season 19, the way he looks at her, always wants to know whether she is upset with him, wanting to be the first to wish her happy birthday...these are not the actions of platonic friends with nothing more. Problem is, I do not think she feels the same way lol. Benson clearly has a type - and sadly for Barba, it tends to be someone that exudes tough guy masculinity (Tucker/Stabler/Cassidy). I think her "I miss you too" was her way of letting him down easy.
@Starlightndust Жыл бұрын
@gjln5424 yes. I also agree. Liv always hies fir the tough, masculine type. Barba is too healthy for her. I was sad when he left the show. Currently watching the reruns. I've also hot a crush on Barba! Lol. I think he's a hottie.
@gabygaby5701 4 ай бұрын
You barely see Olivia in this scene… it’s all Barba. Olivia is way too lame.
@roxanafarjat5795 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not fair the amount of talent on Raul 💕! He is one of the reasons I got involved in professional musical theatre (and I hope I can thank him face to face one day for changing my life in this way). But honestly in the past seasons sometimes (very few) I felt his acting a little too “theatrical” (which is perfectly normal cause it’s what’s he’s used to do) and in camera it looked a bit over the top… like his last scene when he says goodbye to Liv. But now I honestly think he’s equally a stage AND a camera actor, this performance is so on point, so human, so honest, that I forgot Rafael Barba is not a real person, and I cried and wanted to hug him. My entire admiration. Mariska perfect as always.
@christinajordan1082 Жыл бұрын
Raul is a really good singer and actor!
@raquelsierra6646 2 жыл бұрын
This scene was so well performed, i could feel everything they were feeling. The acting, the music etc was just perfect and for me when she calls him Rafa when he's leaving and we get to see his face is epic. I want Barba back, there is no other character able to tell Liv things she might dont like
@williethomas5116 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is because they respected each other they listened, learned and moved when needed out of respect. Her relationship with Elliott was him talking down to her. Him crossing the line and her covering an making excuses for him. You never saw him listen and not be violent.
@terripitnick3124 2 жыл бұрын
@@williethomas5116 100%. I’m disappointed they even brought him back. And it seems his show is being propped up by SVU considering the number of crossovers. Stabler ghosted her for 10 years and it’s all good 👎
@jenniferhiemstra5228 2 жыл бұрын
@@williethomas5116 THAT. Thank you.
@trivonnereid8877 2 жыл бұрын
he's leaving not his leaving
@raquelsierra6646 2 жыл бұрын
@@trivonnereid8877 Sorry for my mistake. I'm not English native speaker but at least I try
@TvGyrl 2 жыл бұрын
Barba has been in love with Benson for yrs.
@violetrose1918 2 жыл бұрын
And Benson’s been in love with Stabler for years
@SuperSoldier26 7 ай бұрын
@violetrose1918 what?
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
@@violetrose1918hardly
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
That's so true
@esthershin9690 2 жыл бұрын
What is that look she gives him when he says he loves her unconditionally?
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he did not say that he loves unconditionnally but she loves Stabler unconditionnally. . But he will be there for her. And he walks out of the room... and Olivia got that she is losing the only one who cares for her. He deserves better than a Liv who's still in awe with her ex partner. Ten years for nothing. + It is so unexpected from Barba ... He reminds her that they plan to be squabbling together when they are 85...=the good old days
@sarahpringle4715 2 жыл бұрын
Barba has certainly got better with age
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely my friend
@literallyabee7883 2 жыл бұрын
Bring back Alex Cabot
@nadiahassan5307 2 жыл бұрын
Completely on Barba’s side for this one. She has always had a huge blind spot when it came to Stabler and so easily forgave him because he was doing his job. Well, so was Rafael. It continues to remind me why I was so happy when Stabler left and how him coming back has messed up a lot of things.
@Vinnymanvinny1 2 жыл бұрын
To me the show went downhill after he left. There was something special about their dynamic as partners.
@CatyBlue1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vinnymanvinny1 Same here, even if you don't ship them they had a great chemistry that made the show really good
@nadiahassan5307 2 жыл бұрын
@@Vinnymanvinny1 Fair enough! I never liked him in general and I thought all the focus on their relationship took away from the episodes. I thought her greatest growth was without him and the best characters came when he was gone. But different strokes for different folks!
@nadiahassan5307 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatyBlue1984 Not for me, thought it was toxic by the end. But hey different opinions. And the show still lasted another 10 seasons without him so someone did something right.
@CatyBlue1984 2 жыл бұрын
@@nadiahassan5307 I'm not saying that it was a bad show, I'm just saying that I missed them working together.
@krissymconnorsvlog7321 Жыл бұрын
I hope they bring barba back more future episodes ❤
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
After 10 years Stabler doesn't call, he doesn't write, doesn't even send a postcard nor text message her and yet she's able to forgive Elliot for all that and not Barba? What a fool
@MelekBetul 2 жыл бұрын
The caption should have been "Barba tells Benson like it is."
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
Oh that’s a good one too
@carriew5106 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly both actors give a masterclass here in their performances. There is so much told in their looks, facial expressions as well is the delivery of the lines. Not something that you can normally see in a long running TV show. Secondly this poses a really interesting question about why Liv feels more anger to Rafa than she ever did to Elliot, and what that means in regards to love. I also thought the point Rafa makes about seeing Stabler through different prisms based on their life experiences is fascinating nature Vs nurture example that would make a great basis of an essay. And then there's the fact that I personally think Rafa is the better man for Liv. He is perhaps too closed off and thinks too much with his head rather than his heart, but he would rather sacrifice himself than see those he loves in danger. Elliott is more emotional, running in head first to defend those he loves, but often his actions place those he loves in danger. And that would have been okay before Noah, but now Liv is a mum Noah has to be her first consideration. And Rafa is the better choice. Less passion maybe, but just as much love.
@Sara-rf5qx 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment I have ever read!
@williammoses6460 2 жыл бұрын
Carrie W, this is well thought out. Thank you. Minor niggle, I think it is a “nurture v nurture” problem. Still plenty of room for a “compare and contrast” essay. Again, thank you for shedding so much light on the dynamics at work.
@roxanafarjat5795 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true, they’re giving a masterclass; but Raul deserves a special recognition cause in some scenes of the past seasons he was too “theatrical” (cause he grew up in theatre) and sometimes his expressions could seem a little over the top, but now he nails it, I’m crying with him, I can honestly say he is now EQUALLY a stage and a camera actor ♥️
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that Olivia was able to adopt Noah when Stabler was not working with her. Also, she moved from detective to Captain...and she has some friends now..ok these are both friends and colleagues. But wow ! When Stabler went away they had to hire two detectives/actors to fill the void. And they(writers) created this ADA, who has a Big Brass B,,,Ego !! Instead of the feminine characters as ADA. Olivia is always friend to the ADA. (Casey, D. Haden or Alex etc,,). She's the one who puts an end to the relationship she had with Haden. So her "I miss you too" comes from the heart but she may be afraid of what the future will be for them. .
@jakelynealcantara Жыл бұрын
Noah is growing up, he will soon become an adult, will he disappoint Olivia?
@aquarianbeauty80 2 жыл бұрын
She always has an excuse for not settling down. She wants to be single period ☝🏽
@hoanglong9629 2 ай бұрын
I felt his pain when he said its alright 😭 How can she not realise this
@bethdeesb 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I believe the love between Barba and Liv is just a really great, deep friendship. What I like about them is their ability to communicate to each other how they feel. They really do listen to each other with their hearts. Liv and Elliott definitely love each other but they can't define what that love looks like because they don't communicate well. They don't truly hear each other because neither one of them understands their own feelings much less the other ones. Maybe because they are too much alike they won't allow each other to be vulnerable without feeling defensive.
@andreaalexander4727 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! I didn’t take what Barba said as romantic. Even the actor himself said Liv and Barba are more of a “brother and sister” type of relationship. Stabler and Benson, definitely romantic. But not Barba and Liv.
@smudgesaysno524 2 жыл бұрын
Liv and Elliot are toxic
@c.r.chandler5905 2 жыл бұрын
@@smudgesaysno524 I agree with you. It's almost as if they are codependent with each other
@bibospice2001 2 жыл бұрын
Did you see the part where he said it
@TB91178 2 жыл бұрын
Best. Comment. On point.
@persephoneharrison3439 Жыл бұрын
I feel stupid! I never thought Barba loved Olivia!!!! Wow! He knows how to handle her personality.
@jessicahulin7052 Жыл бұрын
You can sense it.. Just like with Amanda and Carisi
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
D**n right
@allieblake477 2 жыл бұрын
“Rafa” 😭😭😭😭😭
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
She only has to get used to the fact that Barba is not with her any more. She wants Stabler, she will have Stabler.
@alexa-tu5ci Жыл бұрын
@@claudinefaure9090 you wish
@EthalaRide 6 ай бұрын
Can we give a round of applause to the *_Editor(s)_* who masterfully wove this performance together *_perfectly._* the shots, the cuts, the *_SECLECTION OF TAKES!_* The actors are wonderful, and ar rightfully so recieving praise for this scene, but a scene like this could have been killed in the edit, but it was masterfully paced out. You can tell Esparza did the scene with differing throughlines, as did Hargitay, and the editors did wonderfully weaving those performances together for a really wonderful scene about two characters having a painfully human heart to heart.
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@preciouswilliams22 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just happy to see Barba & Benson together again😊 Rafael made a GOOD POINT, I love Stabler too, BUT, Stabler needs to be held MORE accountable cause he wrongfully ghosted Liv for TEN YEARS... That energy needs to be reserved for El!
@heiheinoo3871 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Barba!
@SuperSoldier26 10 ай бұрын
You'd think that Olivia would continue to move on after becoming senior detective, sergeant, lieutenant, and now captain after all these years, but ever since Stabler came back to New York Olivia's not trying to move on, she's trying to pick up what was left behind
@porshamallen 2 жыл бұрын
I love this man!!! 😩🥰 The best lawyer & one of the best people on the show! Liv can be so irritating sometimes! Give this man his award!
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah 🎉
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@alexandraanderson3988 Жыл бұрын
She's irritating???😢😞 for feeling the way she does towards she does to him after defending Wheatley after she begged and told him not 🚫 too lmaoo 😁😅😊 yeah right???
@porshamallen 11 ай бұрын
@@alexandraanderson3988 yes she is. If you paid attention SHE said why HE did it and Olivia is not always right.
@SuperSoldier26 8 ай бұрын
The best and funniest ADA ever. It was so sad to see him leave during that episode when Rafael killed that baby and Jack McCoy appointed Peter Stone to prosecute him and to give him a light punishment because in the end of it all, Jack McCoy was very sad to see Barba leave
@deno5555 2 жыл бұрын
Rafa's the best. Love him
@biancamcnair1049 2 жыл бұрын
I still don’t believe her and Elliot are right for each other. Their relationship was borderline obsessive. He got in between most of her relationships and she went so far as to try and have a guy killed for him. Olivia definitely needs Barba in her life to call her out on this behavior.
@NicoleUntch 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! He’s way too toxic for her and she’s lost so many good relationships holding onto hope for him.
@alexandraanderson3988 2 жыл бұрын
I agree she should get stable with someone in due time but barba just basically came back and she's part right he has no right to dictate what kind of relationship her and stabler. Like I hate when people think to seem to know someone based on their file and not getting to know them to show their true colors lol plus her & stabler known each other longer and he's basically always had her back not a stabler fan like that but I doubt stabler would ever stick up for Wheatley like the way barba did he did practically kinda of ruin his changes
@alexandraanderson3988 2 жыл бұрын
However I still think she's overacting with this bitterness of holding a grudge on him Lol this was one character trait I did not know she had lol like literally nobody could convince her to make amends with barba for her own good not even her therapist I was like damm this is a whole new side of her I've never really seen before since she's alway s been so forgiving in the past literally learned to forgive and forget like burton but I'm sure she didn't forget
@biancamcnair1049 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandraanderson3988 I’ve noticed her less desirable traits have been more prominent since Barba left. Like when she implied to Amanda that she’d had an abortion before and regretted it and then pretended like that’s not what she meant. I get why she’s still angry with him but she needs to work through it because she’s a better person with his friendship.
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandraanderson3988 and Benson dictating Barba " not to take this case ?" Because what ? Stabler is back in to her life and there's no room for anybody else. Stabler can ruin their friendship and he, Barba, has to admit, say yes and thank you ? Just like nothing happened during the 6/8 past years. Stabler comes back and picks up his things. °\°
@MARIAANDRADE-gf6wz 2 жыл бұрын
02:11 OMG! He said! This is love
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely and he's speaking his mind, telling her straight, and giving her the business
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@user-ez7ew1qv1g Ай бұрын
@@user-lw8es4ru2hdid you know which episode is this?😢
@mappingoutthesky 2 жыл бұрын
Rafa, honey, you deserve better. You deserves somebody who loves YOU unconditionally... I could be that person lol
@007private 2 жыл бұрын
i mean can i just have him on the weekends ??!! lol ughh i so love him !!
@queenheart6167 2 жыл бұрын
Calm down, girls. Line up. I'm the first here.
@timbuyoti1198 2 жыл бұрын
Rafa truly deserves someone great, Liv is too indecisive, she really doesn't know what she feels😬 hope she gets it together. And if she doesn't choose Barba at least let him have someone, all we've seen with Barba is heartache after heartbreak from Lauren to Yelina to Liv
@007private 2 жыл бұрын
@@timbuyoti1198 i mean he can have me 🤣🤣🤣but yes i dont think liv really wants a relationship . I think she only wanted a child and is happy with that .
@queenheart6167 2 жыл бұрын
@@007private 😂😂
@toddsmitts 2 жыл бұрын
"I've known him for 23 years and he always had my back." Except for the 10 years he ghosted you.
@vintagetvandexciting 2 жыл бұрын
Right?
@frankcharlotte2923 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed when Barba left svu he stayed in touch Elliot not once did that
@radicalreactions1633 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankcharlotte2923 Exactly right!
@Isabella2335. 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankcharlotte2923 exactly!
@keantedobosu3194 2 жыл бұрын
Ok well he's back now 🤣🤣
@deborahtrotter6656 2 жыл бұрын
At least his feelings are straightforward not changing every 20 months, he says exactly what he thinks. This is why I think this is a better fit than the stabler storyline I have utmost respect for Christopher meloni, but the stable storyline does not work for me.
@gloco620 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. She gets on my whole nerves. Rafa was right, she's always deflecting, defending, when in fact, yes, you knew Stabler for 23 years but he loved Kathy, yeah, he may have had feelings for Olivia, pretty sure that comes after spending more time with your co-worker than your actual family, especially in the context of their working relationship, so much that when Olivia called, Kathy said, "your work wife." She needs to face her own demons, deal with her own crap before she can ever get involved. With anyone.
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
you nail it - I happen to be fed up with her character - does she deserve anything that he won't ruin ?
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
Fin told her once "nobody exspect you to be super woman" - "I do" - she answered She wants to be a superwoman even when it comes about feelings.
@jjs1300000 2 жыл бұрын
Rafael is a good friend, I’m glad he told her the truth.
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
Yep and I'm glad he told her straight
@anniebunny722 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves both Barba and Elliot. This scene was heartbreaking. Cause Barba was calling Liv out on her unresolved feelings for Elliot and that he relates to her in loving someone unconditionally (from Barba’s perspective platonically or romantically) was something I wasn’t expecting after seeing the, “more anger towards me than Stabler,” line from the promo. He just wants her to figure it out with Elliot, but is there for her when she’s ready. I don’t want Barba out of her life. They both had a great working relationship and a deep friendship. I hope that since Warren Leight (showrunner) is leaving, they won’t forget about Liv and Barba’s relationship.
@CindieLefebvre 2 жыл бұрын
X2
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
But non! I don't want Barba to be the whitness of Olivia and Stabler happy life. First, because she will never see Barba again. Second, she can't treat him like an underdog ,,, If she already miss him maybe it's because she can't see any future with Stabler. And he walks away. He gives her time to realize how she feels. But Benson is in love since minute one and she will wait for Stabler till the end.
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
I agree @Annie Burke
@rosehollis9639 Жыл бұрын
Annie burke. Liv may forgive Barba someday but that was the most personal betrayal as you can get yes they were very close but I think she knew that he took the Wheatley as a hit as hit against stabler and she was not forgiving him for that at all because he knew what stabler means to her
@SuperSoldier26 8 ай бұрын
I know right?
@lulugirlgo483 2 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone assume she forgave Elliot? The way I see it, she has not. She has partnered up with him a few times since he came back, but the intent was never to get into a relationship with him so soon. She fends off all his advances, making excuses not to get too close to him. I was never in denial regarding their feelings for each other over the years. He loved her. She loved him. He broke her. Entered Barba, and for the first time I could see her building a life with someone again. He is just sooooo good for her.
@ABirdOnTheMoon 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not about forgiveness when she loves him enough to not mention anything .. is she angry? Upset? Doesn’t want to see him? Hurt? All no .. so she has already forgave him. I don’t think she ever even was that angry at him .. she loved him a lot to idolize him .. to even put him first to herself to realize he didn’t love her enough .. he didn’t care for her feelings .. he wasn’t the bigger person nor even wrote her something in a shy attempt to reduce her pain .. nothing. He left her without a word .. and he did that multiple times before while working together .. doing his mind and sometimes putting her in danger .. stabler is selfish .. she is stupid .. she is not over him and he will burn her. He is her obstacle/weakness and he will make her fail .. choose against her best judgment. He is the challenge she need to overcome
@claudinefaure4897 2 жыл бұрын
@@ABirdOnTheMoon yes !
@venusmoodie4874 2 жыл бұрын
I agree she hasn't forgiven him and I really wanna see her let that out cause that's part of all the feelings she's holding in. I'm really so torn between Barber and Stabler I mean for as long as I knew SVU was going on I've been pulling for Bensler but then Barber came and I didn't even realized I liked them until he was leaving. When Liz finally let's the feelings out though has the potential to be epic for her and Stabler
@fizzybubbles715 2 жыл бұрын
My hope for Season 24 is that she finally puts her foot down with Stabler, calls him out & puts him in his place.
@claudinefaure9090 Жыл бұрын
@@fizzybubbles715 season 24 will deal with her traumas. Bringing in the ghosts from the past. Of course, William Lewis. Everybody knows about him except Elliott. Barba, Amanda and to some extend Carisi. Barba , he walked away. Amanda, unelegantly fired Carisi,,, We have not yet met the others.
@dogparkcz3126 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how many times I've seen this scene! Such a brilliant acting! Every emotion in Rafa's eyes, just broke my heart. I desperately need Liv to open her eyes finally!! Rafael always did the best he could for her! If you don't want such an unconditionally loving man, I'm gonna take him ♥
@guestuser2482 2 жыл бұрын
Love barba and Benson hope they become an item
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
Hope that they will develop her "I miss you too". She's lost too many good men ,,,
@melissatorres9151 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Liv, but I'm on Barba's side on this one.
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
Me too !
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
He spoke out her 'feelings' for Stabler. He knows her very well. And he knows that he only has to go. So she can make her mind. She doesn't want him out of her life. I hope he can trust her again. He's always been honest toward Benson, and she has to know how he feels about her. Benson always confused about her feelings. And she has to make a decision of her own.
@kimberly11091 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
So am I
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
@@claudinefaure9090 yep
@Rheinmeister09 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how people continue to look at their relationship as just friends. Particularly after he says that he knows what it is to love someone unconditionally. I can’t imagine that they won’t bring him back to try and resolve this which sets up a triangle with Stabler. Good to make Stabler work for it.
@rinraiden 2 жыл бұрын
No... just no. Stabler and Benson are meant to be together. I like Barba... but no.
@alzandronehendricks3348 2 жыл бұрын
Lol stabler has a whole family and keeps hurting olivia for years even though they had their thing and had each others back she deserves better
@psychopat4402 2 жыл бұрын
@@rinraiden no just no. After being partners for 23 years they’re practically brother and sister…….at that point it’s full blown friend zone.
@anastasia581 2 жыл бұрын
Still don’t see barba and her like that, unconditional love applies to friendships as well, especially one as deep as theirs. I really loved her and tucker together, just watched a few clips to refresh my memory, wish she found someone like that again but allowed herself to happy. Tucker treated her and her son like 👑 and he was consistent. Too bad it didn’t last and he passed away
@jazzyjonas6646 2 жыл бұрын
Hes my favorite DA
@user-zq8xn2bk1u Жыл бұрын
He really is the best
@shasta6875 Жыл бұрын
Id LOVE to see Liv realize she fell in love with Rafa. I think Elliot needs a lot of mental help and he doesn't believe in that stuff so he will never change. Rafa clearly loves Liv and has fought for and supported Noah, too while Elliot disappeared and ran overseas. Elliot chose his marriage over live and rightly so, but now Liv needs to choose herself, meaning someone who loves her unconditionally, and that's Barba❤
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
Right on
@EthalaRide 6 ай бұрын
here here
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
2:18-2:52 Rafael Barba responding to her saying "what" instead of "yes" means that he's pissed. Now she just lost another friend who was deeply in love with her
@aliltired5151 2 жыл бұрын
OMGGG was this a love confession???!!! And yesssss Barba call her out! I love Liv but she has filters on when it comes to Elliot. She says “I’ve known him for 23 years” but that’s not true. You’ve known him for 12-13 years and he’s abandon you for the other 10-11 years. People change. While he was a POS those years he was your partner, you knew that man. You don’t know this one. I get the whole appeal to be wanting Bensler together but I honestly think they are toxic for each other due to his “holier than thou” attitude and need to control aspects of her life. And she looses any power and confidence she has to please him. It’s almost like watching her revert back to the season 1 Olivia. They’ve missed their mark, and she’s honestly been through too much to forgive him (even though she’s written as if she already has). Also, can you honestly believe that Stabler’s kids will accept her? I’m sure they’ve heard Kathy bad mouth Liv in arguments with Elliot since it seems like Kathy blamed her marriage problems on Liv. So I don’t think the kids will respect her. Besides Fin, Barba is the only man that has consistently been there for Liv without conditions. He knows almost everything about her and still accepts and loves her. He is the most stable and perfect match for her at this point in her life. I may be biased because I’ve been routing for them since he stepped on the screen. I feel like if she doesn’t end up with him, then they should honestly leave her single.
@WarmasterJoshmaul Жыл бұрын
I think Stabler's kids would accept her. Kathleen particularly, they seemed to get on reasonably well. His popularity aside, I'm fairly sure something may happen that will end up getting him killed, and who would they have left? Grandma Bernie? She has her own problems (and this was before getting kidnapped by Wheatley, who is probably not dead at all, evidence to the contrary aside). Olivia is probably the most stable person they know. More so even than their own father, at this point.
@rebeccagoodnight96 Жыл бұрын
Kathy never hate Olivia and the kids love Olivia. So what tv show you watch
@rebeccagoodnight96 Жыл бұрын
Go rewatch all the episodes again bc kathy alway like Olivia especially after Olivia helped delivered Kathy baby
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
I love that Rafael confessed his love for her and that he called her out. She deserved it
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
@@rebeccagoodnight96 that’s right
@Kingbossdon 2 жыл бұрын
Love Barba he was my favorite character on the show definitely in my top 10
@raginggamer7207 2 жыл бұрын
Olivia has always bugged me. She is never wrong. No one ever tells her to shut up. She's never questioned. Maybe this is the start of a new Olvia. One who actually makes mistakes that she recognizes.
@svenheimes2494 2 жыл бұрын
In the old days, she was wrong many times, got into trouble for that, admitted mistakes...that made her more 'human'. Casey would be a great choice for a comeback.
@diggs1989 2 жыл бұрын
@@svenheimes2494 agreed, I don’t know what Olivia they’re talking about
@madgemackles4337 2 жыл бұрын
Always? have you just started watching?
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
@Raging Gamer Yeah maybe
@SuperSoldier26 Жыл бұрын
Damn right @Raging Gamer
@jannlewandowski5540 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like they're keeping us hanging by the triangle of Olivia, Barba, & Stabler.
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
Josh, Liza, Charles = triangle on Younger // Olivia, Barba, Stabler on SVU. Many triangles, let's try some squares.
@annmariedash5782 2 жыл бұрын
When Liv got run off the road by Whitley’s men she was talking to Stabler on the phone.He never once called her to find out how she was. His excuse was that he was undercover. Is that really love. Why would she still care for someone who never once asked about her welfare for ten years. I don’t see Stabler being the end game for her. He and his family have too many issues from his mother to all his children. Why would Liv want to bring Noah in that circle. I think she should move on without him. It would be better for her and Noah.
@alexandraanderson3988 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he still end up finding her in the ambulance 😊 but Yeah he has to much issues and problems of their own to even ask about her own
@annmariedash5782 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandraanderson3988 She imagined the ambulance attendant was him. He was nowhere around.
@M.Hiro79 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree
@alexandraanderson3988 2 жыл бұрын
@@annmariedash5782 Ohhhh😮 Lol that had me fooled on screen I thought it was him dammm🤦🏾♀️😄
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
@@annmariedash5782 yes, you're right - She's obsessed with him - but there is some closure with Barba - I'm not sure he will be there to help her if she is in troubles because she let Stabler in to her life - she is regressing and nobody can help.
@margaretarce31 2 жыл бұрын
Show runners will put her with Elliott to please over romantic fans. It will be forced. The true chemistry is between Benson and Barba. Actors either have it or they don't. They certainly do.
@angiesubero9755 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@lifewithlaysia. 2 жыл бұрын
Mariska doesn’t want her character to be with barba.
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifewithlaysia. she wants to be with Stabler/Meloni ???? Her Younger man should find someone better. -
@lifewithlaysia. 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 honestly idc for stabled and benson but yea mariska says she rooting for them she couldn't see her character with anyone else .
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifewithlaysia. - it's bad news ! their chemistry's gone . But yes she said she's full of gratitude for the actor. Barba would be such a better match, ,
@cataciudad 2 жыл бұрын
Barba is right tbh
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
Definitely
@claireh8560 2 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! We need more moments like this. So intense. It reminds me of the best seasons. I miss the golden age of SVU. Barson endgame all the way. EO was so 10 seasons ago. Raul and Mariska are the best. Their characters too. We need more scenes like this. I miss Barba on the show. I miss those Barson moments. (Btw, Liv says 23 years... Not really. Did she forget the 10 years Stabler was gone?)
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
she met Barba during these years. And she said 'Thank you' to Amaro because he helped her to grow when she was devastated. she didn't have to be emotionally involved with her partner to trust him -
@bryanhernandez-kz5ky 2 жыл бұрын
This along with her psychiatrist are just basically setting up the question of is olivia ready to move on or will she make her move.
@Truecrimeresearcher224 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next season we will know. Maybe this is the start
@psychopat4402 2 жыл бұрын
And if Olivia moves on everyone of the EO shippers will then hate the psychiatrist….even tho he doesn’t deserve that lol.
@radicalreactions1633 2 жыл бұрын
The whole episode was setting her up to be with Barba.
@radicalreactions1633 2 жыл бұрын
@@psychopat4402 Good. All FIVE of you will stop watching, and the rest of the audience (the MAJORITY) will return, since we all left when Unstabler came back. Don't believe me, check the ratings. lmao.
@psychopat4402 2 жыл бұрын
@@radicalreactions1633 I never said I’d stop watching Lmfao.
@jonna1885 2 жыл бұрын
Is Barba trying to tell Olivia that he loves her?
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
Yes
@The_Moderates_Apprentice 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just about justice for Elliot's wife. But also for Olivia's friend. People tend to forget that Olivia and Kathy had a friendship as well. Even more so, closure for his kids. This scene is all about the Elliot, Olivia, Barba triangle, and I really wish the writers had given this perspective as well in this exchange.
@tammylewis2408 2 жыл бұрын
Benson also delivered Eli when she and Kathy were on their way to Kathy's doctor when they were hit broadside by a drunken driver and Kathy went into labor. So I think there is an emotional connection Benson has with Stabler different from Barba.
@AladeenMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@tammylewis2408 people often forget Stabler was not only best friends with benson but like FAMILY not only to him but his whole family, Kathy fully trusted Olivia just as much as she did for her husband , people love to attack him for his mistakes and personal issues forgetting benson has had her share of issues herself, they both had different issues to deal with in their lives, Eliot is growing much more with organized crime and so much better than before, Liv grew into a captain now, they needed to be separated but honestly with all that said. I prefer they remain good friends I don’t think a couple should be end game heck I think Liv needs both barba and stabler in her life as good friends
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
@@AladeenMusic possibly
@ricoleneheymans2903 Жыл бұрын
Why cant she just love him back! he is so much better for her way healthier. The frustration is killing me
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
I know and Me too
@kmstorturedpoet 2 жыл бұрын
Bring Barba back please
@adriennefein2284 2 жыл бұрын
Our hearts are broken & Rafa NEEDS to comeback
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
And meet the other people in the squad. Doesn't need to meet Olivia again since they don't have anything else to say.
@queenheart6167 2 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely in love with Barson, but more like an unconditional friendship (I really like Barisi). Rafael and Olivia converse in a very different way than the conversations Liv has with Elliot. I also understand the hurt she feels because Rafael is one of the few people Olivia trusts and loves. Maybe that's why she forgave her ex so easily. She really didn't care about him. With Elliot it was because they have something unfinished that needs to come to an end, no matter what. But with Rafael it's different. Surely he is her best friend. In fact, Rafael is much friendlier than Olivia herself, because she didn't trust him and the reasons why he defended Wheatley. I'm so glad he didn't ask for any forgiveness, that he upheld his decision and even said what she needed to hear. from now on it's Olivia who has to go after him, not the other way around. WOW!!! This is my Rafael Barba. He deserves better than an indecisive Olivia.
@loveolicity4542 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of a romantic relationship, Benson and Stabler have never crossed the line.. So he's not an ex... Ex partner in the workplace, you're right...
@queenheart6167 2 жыл бұрын
@@loveolicity4542 the ex I'm referring to is the one from the previous episode, the one who dated her when Olivia was just 16.
@loveolicity4542 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenheart6167 ooooo…. Sorry. Didn’t realize. You didn’t mention him in your initial reply
@queenheart6167 2 жыл бұрын
@@loveolicity4542 I didn't mention it because I don't remember the guy's name.😁
@ellaisplotting 2 жыл бұрын
I adore Liv and Barba's relationship, but 100% Barisi all the way. Rollins is such a beard.
@winona7 Жыл бұрын
Liv is so much more of a stronger healthier person around Rafa. She is able to evolve into a empowered person than with someone who abandoned her.
@marafreeman5975 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I adore Elliot I think Rafael is a more stable and mentally healthier choice for Olivia . I wish the writers give her a less painful love story .
@chanthana7694 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
Her story with Barba is going to be painful also. He loves her and she just doesn't know.. she missed him. Just before it's too late. Or it is too late. He'll be back but he is walking away.
@jennyulloa9058 2 жыл бұрын
I love barba he is speaking truths and that’s why Olivia can’t stay mad at him because he’s stating facts and telling it to her face. They need to fix this show asap.
@monno2 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why she was pissed at Barba but she needed to hear him out and actually listen to why he did it. Everyone else, incl Carisi, could see why. But Stabler clouded her judgement and ruined a good friendship. Not a fan of Bensler and never will be but if that's where they're going then fine, I have no choice but to accept it. It's not a healthy relationship though. She doesn't see him clearly enough and he looks down at her, like he's better than her. She reverts to a 'follower' when she's with him, like he's the leader. Her healthiest relationship was with Tucker. Shame TPTB killed him off. Barba is a nice guy but I see no romantic chemistry there. Lifelong friendship definitely, if Liv just accepts he did what he thought was best and moves on. Unfortunately the majority want Stabler and Benson together but don't see he's not good for her, as a romantic partner. He had the chance to date her, when he and Kathy separated, but no he went for dates with others and even Dani Beck! She wasn't even a 2nd/3rd/4th choice, then disappeared for 10 yrs. In the real world there would be no way back from that. I could never trust him not to disappear again. I actually preferred 2.0 (and I'm on my 5th rewatch from S.1 - 23!) Sorry it's so long had to get that off my chest!
@monicaw.3384 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I love her and Stabler's chemistry, but I agree they should not become a couple. You're right. She doesn't see him clearly and gives him several passes. He had a chance to pursue Liv while separated but he didn't. I think that was part of their tension for a while too. He's always wanted to have his cake and eat it too 🤦🏽♀️
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
@@monicaw.3384 He has an award, he ask Cragen to attend the ceremony and he does not ask Olivia... what kinda man can do that ?
@cokemonkey9755 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 maybe elliot invited her but she didn't go because she's tired of always being there for him and elliot is never there for her, he doesn't take her into account, he remembers her when he just needs her. it may be that they give an explanation when the programs start.
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
@@cokemonkey9755 yes ! You nail it! And so Barba is not interested in someone who will be there for some body else. Maybe he doesn't trust her anymore. Their friendship has explosed, thanks to Stabler. All these years are deleted. He doesn't know if he still wants to be squabbling with her ..
@lnu9068 2 жыл бұрын
These past 2 seasons has been really bad. Liv is acting like stabler was a good person and didn’t abandon her without even a goodbye. Typical woman would rather love someone who’s wrong for them than a man who’s honorable like RAF
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
And she is supposed to work at the SVU ! but it is so human to be wrong,,,
@antuaneth1815 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with what Barba said. Live even said one time that she grew and got things she deserves once Stabler was gone
@timbuyoti1198 2 жыл бұрын
What I would give to have a friend like Barba😭💛 I mean I do, but I want Barba🤣🤣
@jammzy2959 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@rachelfigueroa3681 12 күн бұрын
She’s my favorite. Even named my baby after her character but Rafa told no lies here !!!! She’s still so loyal to L even when he completely ghosted her !!!!
@frankcharlotte2923 2 жыл бұрын
Barba has always had livs back even when he made the mistake of defending Richard and he has always been in love with her I want her with him any day over unstable Stabler 🙄🙄🙄
@TennantJunkie1993 2 жыл бұрын
Fat lot of good it did to his relationship with Liv. If he truly cared, he would've stepped aside in the trial and gotten to know Elliot. Instead, he probably worked out some deal with Hadid to not retry after working a mistrial.
@TennantJunkie1993 2 жыл бұрын
And in doing so, hurt Liv's feelings and made an enemy out of Elliot.
@TennantJunkie1993 2 жыл бұрын
Even THAT makes me Raúl Eduardo to the point I may wake up hoarse tomorrow.
@gracechase7201 2 жыл бұрын
@@TennantJunkie1993 Olivia is way to emotional and in every episode Elliott mad in enemy
@alexandraanderson3988 2 жыл бұрын
@@TennantJunkie1993 Hadid?? She's still working at svu lol
@mandyb8837 2 жыл бұрын
He has been in love with her since forever. That look in his eyes whenever she is around can be seen from all episodes before this. Stabler is a NO NO . The way she calls him Rafa ....there is smthg there too... Rafa + benson
@dannymartinez9146 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 💕💕😍😍 Rafa & Liv belong together #Barsonforever
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
If Barba is walking away from Liv, she will know she is the reason why nothing works for her. She's the one who ruins every single relationship she has ( except stabler). And now she also knows that Stabler is not waiting for her. Angela and him had true feelings. If there is no closure with Barba, it would mean that the chapter about the past ten years is no over. Barba is part of what happened to her in a good happy way. (That she already said to Amaro) - and also in a not so happy,,,, he held her when Noah was kidnapped. And she felt ok to cry on his shoulder. Stabler hugged her when she helped his wife to thank her , which he never did before. My POV only, it was mixed feelings. She does not want any closure, being still so much afraid of abandonment.
@dannymartinez9146 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 I want Barba and Benson to be ok with each other😔😢
@claudinefaureclaudinefaure2313 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannymartinez9146 me too!!
@UnicornsandFaeries 2 жыл бұрын
These two were so meant to be together. ❤️❤️❤️
@violetrose1918 2 жыл бұрын
If they were meant to be together, then the writers would have put them together at some point during the six years Barba was on the show. Unlike Stabler, Barba was single & so was Benson. But they never went there. Also, I’m not convinced Benson’s into Barba like that. More Stabler than anything
@UnicornsandFaeries 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetrose1918 Actually the same goes for Stabler. Even though he was married he would have gone after Liv. It just who he is. Also there are subtle sign that they are attracted to each other.
@violetrose1918 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnicornsandFaeries Actually your wrong there. Stabler NEVER went after Liv while he was married. Even the two years he & Kathy were separated, he still never went after Liv. And no that’s not who he is. Elliot was & is a devout Catholic, devoted to his family. And these so called “subtle signs” of attraction, doesn’t mean its love. Recently, Elliot and Olivia have done more than make “subtle signs” of attraction and have put it out there. 1) Elliot & Olivia both touching each other’s faces, 2) Olivia holding Elliot’s hand and him linking hands w/ hers while looking for Eli 3) the flirtatious looks & Elliot looking at her lips during close encounters 4) Elliot asking to take her & Noah out 5) the longing looks they give each other. None of these are subtle and are very obvious. So if Barba & Benson have done close to Benson & Stabler when implying feelings, then maybe you’ll have a point. Just sayin😏
@UnicornsandFaeries 2 жыл бұрын
@@violetrose1918 I never said he did. All I said was if he wanted to go after her nothing would have stopped him. He's a horrible person.
@violetrose1918 2 жыл бұрын
@@UnicornsandFaeries But he didn’t go after her because he’s not that person. He stayed devoted to his wife and family. And you can say he’s a horrible person but Olivia doesn’t think he’s horrible. Neither does his mother, kids, Cragen & his former co workers think he’s horrible. Yes he messed up leaving for 10 years. But he’s seeking his redemption now.
@smileyfan16 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want a love triangle between Liv, Elliot and Barba. I think it was good for other people to call Liv out on her feelings for Elliot. It’s becoming apparent to everyone like Rollins and Barba what she feels for Elliot, but can’t see. Olivia is in denial. She needs to talk to Elliot about her feelings. Like her shrink said find out if there’s more or move on.
@alby270496 2 жыл бұрын
Liv still thinks that Barba was aggressive at the Wheaton trial, but she has forgotten how ferocious he can be
@maldagarcia4570 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like Stabler for Olivia. I don't know if anyone remembers when Nick Amaro left, Olivia said that she grew more in the short time that Nick was her partner than in the whole, I don't know how many years, with Stabler. He always had her back, sure but that's what partners do. Then there was Peter Stone who put his career in jeopardy for Olivia because he developed feelings for her then he had to leave. At this point, anyone is better than Stabler. I would have preferred Peter but Barba works too.
@anastasia581 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I’ve been watching these new episodes of svu and organized crime I’ve been thinking about what you just said about what she said to amaro, I just watched short clips to refresh my memory with her and tucker. I think they were the most pure and truly in love, he treated her so well too. As far as barba and her, I think they really love eachother but personally don’t see it as romantic
@midimaggie 2 жыл бұрын
honestly barba is probably the better choice for olivia (saying this as an eo fan) but the heart wants what it wants
@gaila.9852 2 жыл бұрын
There is no romantic energy between them.
@midimaggie 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaila.9852 k
@timbuyoti1198 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaila.9852 Hrm🤔 you talking about the actors? Because those characters have serious chemistry
@gaila.9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@timbuyoti1198 I am talking about the characters. They seem to be friends. That is all, and that is fine.
@timbuyoti1198 2 жыл бұрын
@@gaila.9852 Hrm🤔 I guess people do see things in different prisms😂😂 lol but I agree, their friendship (is/was) so pure I think it's because of how good they are as friends that people like me want to see more😅😅. I don't care if it's there or not I'll be content to see their friendship fixed🥺 friends like that are hard to find
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
When she performs these attitudes and acts this way, there's no room for her to grow, move forward, and live a peaceful happy life especially with her son Noah who adores Rafael Barba and sees him as his Uncle Rafa
@gabygaby5701 5 ай бұрын
She doesn’t deserve him. He too much of a man for her.
@SuperSoldier26 4 ай бұрын
Yep and d*** straight!!
@SuperSoldier26 2 ай бұрын
I agree
@rebel_sham 2 жыл бұрын
i think theyre intending for liv and barba to be platonic but i love barba. i want it to be more 😩🥰
@misscherie9230 2 жыл бұрын
He is so damn handsome. blows Stabler away! Stabler is a hot head who takes too long to make up his mind and the "Liv Ship" has long sailed. Stabler was led around by Kathy who kept his balls in her purse. Barba has more ambition and nads to step up to Liv. She is crazy if she lets him go. He won't be single forever. Get it together Liv❤️
@claudinefaure9090 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and now Barba is a D.A. He doesn't work anymore with/for the NYPD... Sure they're going to squabble more then often.
@cristinacalheiros8311 11 ай бұрын
I agree 👍 give this man an award 👏 he was a very valuable actor as he represents the role of attorney!!!
@user-lw8es4ru2h 2 ай бұрын
What episode is this?
@kathykozlak7800 2 жыл бұрын
I love Raul's Barba,!!! Great actor great singer. Hope to see more of him!! Give him the money!!!
@SuperSoldier26 9 ай бұрын
Yeah
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