Bergara B14 HMR VS Tikka UPR
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3 жыл бұрынBergara B14 HMR VS Tikka UPR
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In this video we compare the Bergara B14 HMR and the NEW Tikka UPR both precision rifles with great reputations, its important to mention both rifles are GREAT rifles. the Tikka UPR and the Bergara B14 HMR are both rifles designed and catered toward the precision/long range shooting sport, and in our previous reviews on these rifle both showed great accuracy and performance out to long range (we brought them to 750m) see links below. the Bergara in the USA are priced around 1000$ while the Tikka is about 1400$
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Bergara B14 HMR VS Tikka T3X Varmint
info from Bergara website:
Although there are many rifles on the market today, we wanted to focus on one thing: quality. Our B-14 rifles were inspired by the desire to bring the quality that Bergara was known for in the custom rifle world to production rifles made for all hunters. In the B-14 rifle, you will find a level of craftsmanship that surpasses all of the other production hunting rifles on the market.
The B-14 HMR rifle features our integrated mini-chassis molded into the stock to give the rifle repeatable bedding and accuracy. It also supports a fully free- floated barrel to achieve optimal precision. The Bergara Hunting and Match rifles are built to offer a rifle for both hunters and competition shooters that can perform incredibly in either situation. The stock features an adjustable cheekpiece and length of pull spacers. Built in Spain at our highly automated and efficient barrel factory, this rifle delivers a level of quality and performance that is unmatched in its price range.
Specs from Bergara :
Weight: 9.5 lbs-9.9 lbs
Overall Length: 40”-47.5”
Barrel Length: 20”-26”
Barrel Taper: No. 6
Muzzle: Precision threaded 5/8-24” (.450 Bushmaster: 11/16×24) with knurled thread protector
Magazine: AICS style detachable
Mag Capacity: 5 round mag provided (3 round mag: 6.5 PRC)
Stock: Bergara HMR Molded with mini-chassis
Scope Mount: Fits Remington 700 bases with 6-48 screws
Integrated QD flush cup sling mounts and swivel mounts
Rear butt-stock: Adjustable cheek piece, and length-of-pull (Length of pull adjustable with alternative screws available at shop.bergarausa.com)
Full-length Integrated mini-chassis for repeatable bedding and supports fully free-floated barrel
From Tikka:
www.tikka.fi/rifles
T3x has a new modular synthetic stock that has interchangeable pistol grips, making it possible to modify the angle of the grip. This allows for multiple shooting positions. Additional grips are sold separately. The T3x synthetic stock also has an additional attachment point which allows you to change the width of the stock’s fore-end.
A grip that never slips. The T3x synthetic stock has a new asymmetrical grip pattern and shape that has been specifically designed to give a solid grip in all conditions.
T3x models come with a new recoil pad technology that reduces the impact of recoil on the shooter. The new robust pad allows you to fully concentrate on the accuracy of your shots.The new T3x receiver introduces a widened angular ejection port that makes it easier to feed one cartridge at a time.
HANDEDNESS RIGHT
WEIGHT 8.3 LBS
TOTAL LENGTH 43.9 IN
BARREL LENGTH 20in
MAGAZINE CAPACITY 5 + 1
RATE OF TWIST 1:11"
TRIGGER SINGLE STAGE TRIGGER
PICATINNY RAIL-
PRODUCT CODE TFTT29CL105MT
MUZZLE THREAD 18-1
CHEEK PIECE FIXED
OPEN SIGHTS NO
CHANGEABLE GRIP YES
FOLDING STOCK NO
FLUTED BOLT NO
STOCK MATERIAL SYNTHETIC
STOCK FINISH BLACK
MATERIAL STAINLESS STEEL
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@EpikArms 8 ай бұрын
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@Ruweisat 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison between these two rifles. As soon as you did your UPR video, this is what I’d hoped was next!
@iEatCheese33 Жыл бұрын
Takes a $1,600 tikka to beat a $1k bergara. Tells you everything right there
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
Hey Jacob in Canada last year the Tikka was only 100$ more than the bergara. (I'm in Canada)
@ExtremeUnction1988 8 ай бұрын
Tikka has 1000-1100 dollar rifles that would beat it just the same.
@nathan22outdoors92 Ай бұрын
this has to be one of the dumbest comments ive came across in a while. yeah, you get what you pay for..... more = better rifle, not sure your point here.
@masonbrubaker1952 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned an HMR for 4 years and always save a doe tag from archery to use it on. Absolutely love it. Knocked down my doe last year at 422 yards. My favorite rifle so far and will continue to be. Great video!
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Must be quite the experience doing long range hunting. Thanks!
@belt1974123 3 жыл бұрын
For the price of the upr a better compare might be the hmr pro from bergara.
@deivishenao987 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly...I was going to say the same thing
@g0rt3x72 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how begaras premium components would fair compared to the b14s
@heyjoe113 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Here in EU the Bergara retails 900 to 1000 euro less then the UPR. But I doubt that the slight benefits (if there really are any) of the UPR are worth the difference.
@therangersbulldogs6350 2 жыл бұрын
@@heyjoe113 In m'y opinion Tikka action and barrel are so much better, and know for a very accurate rifle, so I think if the Tikka price is correct the Bergera is expensive in comparaison, it's m'y opinion. If you want a factory precison rifle, Tikka are so much better.
@heyjoe113 2 жыл бұрын
@@therangersbulldogs6350 might be, but is it 1000 euro better?
@ari-mattilautamaki6328 3 жыл бұрын
About a year before Tikka released the UPR, I sent an e-mail to Sako (Sako's headquarter in Finland becouse I'm from Finland too). I suggested that they should make a rifle that is priced between T3x CTR and Tac A1. I said that stock is the weakness in basic T3x Tikka rifles and many shooters replaces it at some point. I used Beragar B14 HMR as an example of a rifle that has reasonable price, guite good stock and is popular. I suggested that the new rifle could have similar stock like the one in Sako carbon wolf but from cheaper materials and it should be based on T3x CTR. They promised to pass on my idea to design team. Almos one year later they released the UPR. So, I've been telling my friends that I designed the UPR😂
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
that is pretty awesome! rare are company that actually take peoples feedback.
@ari-mattilautamaki6328 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms I don't know if my e-mail had really anything to do with the UPR project but I just keep saying that to my friends😁 Would be fun though if my idea had some impact..😅
@Viking7771 3 жыл бұрын
Your email could of been used to create the new ups but it is rare in corporations that they use other people advice only other large company that i would say that is like that would be Elon Musk’s TESLA!
@mariobeaudry2543 2 жыл бұрын
i changed my rem.700 sps for tikka t3x and man what a différence specialy on the triger and i went for 308 win vs 30-06 and just love it. tks for your show
@jevmagrini4671 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you very much.
@bigjermanprepared3164 10 ай бұрын
Great video, great information. Thanks!
@BananaMagsinPyjamas 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, my mate and I were comparing these exact rifles to each other, we found my HMR to be just slightly more accurate but barely. For me it just came down to little things like stock, price and magazines on the berg. But they are very similar rifles and it’s great to see these companies producing such high quality rifles for a affordable price.
@ReferenceFidelityComponents 2 жыл бұрын
Tikka’s ultimate LR precision rifle is actually the Tikka TAC A1. One in 260 Rem out of the box in 260 Rem took the UK record for a factory rifle at 600m (664yds) with a 2.7inch group. Most accurate factory rifle I’ve seen was a TAC A1 in 6.5 CM with a 100yd group of 0.18 inches. That’s bench rest territory!
@valgo8128 Жыл бұрын
Tikka tac a1 and the others are all the same barrel and chamber
@diabloclimber Жыл бұрын
I have both, and both my wife and I always seem to shoot the HMR a little better at distances past 300 meters, but you can not go wrong with either.
@siddy957 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best reviews on KZfaq. Certainly think this has settled my predicament. I will be getting my first precision rifle in the next few weeks and was torn between the HMR (or bergara barrelled action in an AI chassis) and Tac A1. I think you've settled it, Tac A1 it is
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Siddy I appreciate hearing that!
@molonlabe8126 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hesitating between those two rifles but since I would use it for shooting and hunting, the light weight of the Tikka IS really appealing to me. Nice review by the way
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@brettheiner7125 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to hear more about the bullet selection for the Bergara work up. Doesn't look like you found a bullet it likes.
@whiskeytango9769 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel...just discovered you this morning. Subscribed.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the channel!
@saxon3980 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be interesting to see how the 24" barrel version of the UPR shoots
@andrewtanczyk4009 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reviews. I’m learning a lot from your channel. I’m very new to rifle shooting.
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
no Problem Andrew check out playlist, a beginners guide to long range shooting
@Bshwag 2 жыл бұрын
If that was a larger cartridge I would say go with the bergara that extra heft really helps with recoil
@aaronsung6208 6 ай бұрын
Great independent review. Review on purchased gun is more representative than "free gun without fee" from manufacturer, because the manufacturer could send the one they tested for highest accuracy, thus making it better than the avg of the same model.
@torr7824 3 жыл бұрын
How did you find the difference in barrel copper fouling between the two rifles while cleaning?
@solar7927 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the CVA cascade? It's CVAs first bolt action and I'd like to see it get more attention and it's only 600
@jake_kwekwek1474 Жыл бұрын
ey man, awesome review.. im torn between these two rifles. im glad i found ur video. can you review the Sako S20 precision pls. thanks
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
hey Jake yes at some point in the spring ill get that done!
@davecollins6113 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Tac A1 about 3 yrs ago, love it. LIked it enough that I got a bug to buy another Tikka last year, wanted it for hunting. Couldn't talk myself into the UPR or the CTR or the Varmint. I'd like to put the two stage trigger into any of them if I could. The T3X works great as is, but, as I've got a bug to "improve" it, I bought a B&C stock for it, haven't shot it yet to see if there is any improvement. I'm now trying to talk myself out of putting a heavier 20" fluted bbl on it, and I'm scared to ask Stoeger what they want for the two stage trigger, if they sell one aftermarket. I have a feeling my pocketbook is going to lose on this one.
@Astartesparty Жыл бұрын
Also depends on the scope you use and how far back you mount it ….
@busterdavy9769 2 жыл бұрын
Great review,are they both a threaded barrel and if so do you know the thread they use!
@north4961 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Please don't ever accept free products from anyone to put on your channel, you purchasing goods to review gives you 100% cred!!! Keep up the great videos. Full disclosure at the start and end!!
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
hi North49, thanks yeah all our guns have been bought by the channel. why i see there's the obvious perception that someone is or can be biased when the product is provided to be reviewed. here how i usually do that, If a prodcut is provided to me firstly the company can not pay me for a review, I accept the product to be reviewed but if its terrible to the point that its not going to be a decent recommendation I let the company know and nothing gets published with that product. Keep in mind before I accept any product from any company I do my research first to ensure it will probably be a good product, keep in mind when I do these reviews my time is still worth more than the product and id prefer not wasting a minute of it. so as I was saying companies will get an unbiased review or nothing at all, that's the condition. and so far none have raised that as an issue. the second concern (that i assume most people have and that i had) is that the companies will cherry pick the product to make sure its the best of the lots or better than the ones being sold to clients..... nope! i've had companies send me full on broken products. thanks for the feedback, and I do try to keep my videos as transparent as possible and with as much proof to support my opinions thus leaving the least amount possible to hearsay.
@TexasTrained 3 жыл бұрын
I have the BEGARA Premier Pro and it overshadows both of these bad..I love it..Its very accurate too.I have it in 6.5 PRC and Im looink at getting one in 300 PRC.
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
wow nice, somtime ill have to try the hmr pro. im planning my next precision rifle to be in 300 PRC. jsut havent decided on the rifle yet
@kellyrick4365 2 жыл бұрын
My HMR is a tack driver. Basically 1/2 MOA or better at 100 yards. I also have an Aero Precision AR-10 6.5 CM. Shooting 129 grain White Tail rounds, I was making a clover out of the bullseye at 100 yards. The 6.5 PRC is on my list for my next long rifle purchase!
@kellyrick4365 Жыл бұрын
@@yamahapeanut44 Bergara says it is under 1 MOA with match ammo. If it isn't? Send it back to them.
@yamahapeanut44 Жыл бұрын
@@kellyrick4365 I cant even get them on the phone and after reading about the mass amount of issues with customer service I dont think its worth trying.
@ssspencerjr Жыл бұрын
My HMR 6.5 creed moor so far is half inch at 100 yards with hornady 140 gr bullets. I'm fine tuning the load to see if I can get it under half inch and see if I can really find a sweet spot.
@josearellano5778 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there boss man‼️ I have been watching a lot of your videos‼️ I really like these comparisons and rifle reviews‼️ I was wondering what are your top 2 rifle. Im interested in purchasing the Tika UPR and Bergara HPR. But I have also been looking at the Howa, Mauser, Steyr and CZ. Can you give me a little information on these rifles.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
hi Jose, I have no experience with the Mauser, Steyr and the CZ (557?) regarding the howa, they are supposedly quite accurate, and supposedly have smooth actions, mine had neither , the action wasn't very smooth, and it had a tendency to bind and other feeding issues. I am planning on getting the CZ 557 MTR varmint in .308 soon, so we will see about that, so far my best recommendations are still the Tikka UPR or Tikka T3x Varmint and you throw it in a Chassis. thanks for watching!
@pwn3426 2 жыл бұрын
IMO this review should of been the UPR vs the HMR pro.
@alexsmart5452 2 жыл бұрын
I just made the same comment
@micstica 2 жыл бұрын
My similar comment was longer winded and I wanna know what else is out there besides tika with similer price point.
@imeprezime1069 2 жыл бұрын
HMR is basically the same rifle as HMR pro, only diference is pro is made in USA and HMR in Spain. That means that HMR regular should be better.
@eastwood4006 Жыл бұрын
@@imeprezime1069 how so? All Bergara barrels are made in Spain
@markn4526 Ай бұрын
Great review! Both are excellent rifles with their own particular pluses and minuses. As you said, the Tikka might be better suited for hunting while the Bergara might be better suited for PRC, but they cross-over. About the Tikka magazines...my understanding is that Tikka uses the same magazine case for all their chamberings because they use the same T3x action in those rifle models. The magazine's internal spacing is modified based on the particular rifle's chambering hence the proprietary availability and premium price tag. I can't say that I appreciate that. Given the price difference and magazine availability and price, I think I'd choose the Bergara even though I'd prefer the 70-degree bolt throw of the Tikka.
@zacharyhall6404 9 ай бұрын
Just got the bergara b14 hmr yesterday, bought it second hand but that trigger is nuts, I get a mm of play and the trigger only moves 3 mm.
@RC-bj6ol 8 ай бұрын
On the Tikka you have a picatinny rail where the sling swivel usually is. What is the brand and model number of that rail?
@robertjackson1407 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@linkchen8245 2 жыл бұрын
Bergara has an integrate alu piece mini chassis which makes it heavier i think. Like both tbh
@vincepasorelli813 3 жыл бұрын
If you get the chance to review the Benneli Lupo it is an amazingly customizable firearm. I own one and it’s fantastic!
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
thats not the first time ive been recommended that rifle. Ill have to get one,
@A_deKerdavid 8 ай бұрын
The Tikka UPR stock seems to be the lightest because it's a composite one, in my opinion made by an irish Cie named PSE Composite... but I don't know if the UPR "OEM" stock is exactly the same of the "original" PSE e-Tac one. Good look at PSE website. Best regards from Brittany, France.
@shotbru Жыл бұрын
Hi, can anyone tell me… is the UPR/CTR the same barrels just different stocks? And is the T3x a heavy contour barrel as opposed to medium in the CTR/UPR? I’m looking to build a PRS match rifle with heavy barrel, so I’m stuck between Ber HMR and Tikka UTR/CTR but want to put it into a MDT chassis so I don’t really care about stocks. Just looking for heavy barrel. Also, I’m in Ireland so we don’t get many options and only factory ammo. Thanks.
@jimmymack6938 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, I love your reviews and channel, Please Compare it to the HMR Pro as it is around the price of the UPR
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
hey Jimmy, once i find a decently priced hmr pro I will. thanks for watching I appreciate hearing that!
@andrewtanczyk4009 3 жыл бұрын
I’m still weighing my option between the Tikka UPR vs the Tikka T3X Tac A1 . Then again these Bergara’s actions, barrels are premiere also. Not sure 🤔. Thanks for the review!
@SCQT 2 жыл бұрын
Should consider adding the CTR to your options, and have $400 / 800 to put into the chassis / stock of your choice. That being said I have a TAC A1, and it is probably the best factory rifle ive ever shot. However, i only paid 1250 for it new, and at 1800 I find it less worth it, depending on what you are using it for. Its a solid chassis, but wouldn't be my first choice for the extra ~$800 vs the CTR. I also have a CTR and it shoots identically to the TAC A1(it is the same rifle with a single stage trigger essentially), but the stock it comes with is garbage and a replacement needs to be budgeted for imo.
@mr.b111 Жыл бұрын
Depends if for hunting or just sport shooting. The Tac A1 is 5kg baseline, UPR 3,3kg I think. Bergara HMR in between. So the Tac A1 is quiet a bit heavier, which can matter when carrying it for hunting.
@samuelberryhill6956 2 жыл бұрын
Good video man I've been looking at both these rifles but in 308. And in the 308 caliber the bergar comes with 20inch barrel like the tikka.i wonder how much closer the weights of the rifles would be with comparing like for like barrel length?
@MrDausen 6 ай бұрын
Have you ever done a comparison between a CTR and UPR? I currently have a CTR in 308, have been thinking of buying a UPR and giving my son the CTR.
@EpikArms 6 ай бұрын
There the same exact barreled action, the only difference is the stock. The upr should be a bit lighter.
@morfeo4425 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. What's the brand of the rail you install in the tilka for the bipod?
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
thats a area 419 rail adapter
@ryannorman8900 2 жыл бұрын
If you buy the tx3 and buy a chassis will the barrel then be free floating and give it improved accuracy?
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@albertlemont5471 Жыл бұрын
The bergara wins imo. Lots your choices leaning toward the Tikka I see going for the Bergara
@Shell4520 2 жыл бұрын
Such a fan boi
@bobbecker2046 Жыл бұрын
As much as you guys drop on spitting scopes and try to jerryrig a camera to it. I would recommend a Panasonic FZ2500 camera. Filming the target with that would be a lot easier and it does double as a spotting scope. I'd get a dummy battery for it and a NP-F battery adapter so you can use NPF970 batteries to power it for hours, and I mean like 6-7hrs straight.
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
hi Rob I acutally ended up getting something similar the Nikon P1000. then again theres something even better on the market now designed for this the Accufire OMNIS basically similar to the nikon p1000 but takes any powerbank to power it and can overlay reticle on the screen
@johnkane46 3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video.
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@macguru9999 4 ай бұрын
I got the tikka upr stainless in 6.5prc for 3000aud. its 5.5kg with a scope the stock is rigid but a little light for the range. I put it in an MDT xrs stock (700aud) for the total weight is 6kg, i dont mind the cost and you cannot buy the tikka as a prc in the cheaper version, at least here in australia.
@adamgarlick6149 Жыл бұрын
Why not compare the HMR Pro to the UPR? Seems like a fairer comparison based on price point. Great review regardless.
@eastwood4006 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking. A closer price point. I'm trying to decide on a 6.5 PRC rifle for long range shooting/hunting. Good video. Being used rifles I wonder how the previous owners 'broke them in' and took care of them
@markthilenius5533 2 жыл бұрын
Watch all your videos great job any suggestions for muzzle breaks on 6 or 6.5 creedmor crush washer or self timing and any brands
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I preffer the corebreak v3. I have only used a few brand though.
@guitarplayer4429 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms wow answered within the hour, nice, my teenage son just opened a Bergara HMR wilderness in 308 for his Bday like 2 days ago, I am new to bolt action and looking at suppressors I surely can’t afford one right now so do I need to replace the muzzle break with a better one that comes with the HMR?? thanx in advance if you have a minute.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
bet your son is the happiest kid out there! id only replace the muzzle break if he find it isnt doing the job, and considering i havent tried the factory muzzle break on the bergara i coudnt tell you
@guitarplayer4429 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms hey thanx for the reply, he’s shot 9mm and ar15 and can break them down, and yah he likes the Bergara a lot, we’re excited to go shoot it, I bought a vortex diamond back scope a while back that we put on the Bergara. I’ve actually been researching muzzle breaks for the last couple hours now, I’ve learned a kid can get a scholarship for shooting so if a muzzle break can help in the least then I absolutely need to get one.
@paulbouchard1003 Жыл бұрын
Great reviews. Honest and down to earth. Please don't put your hand over the muzzle with the bolt closed - or, even open.
@suzgabverdugo933 5 ай бұрын
Warranty is everything thing. I’m a bow hunter and I go with Mathew’s and vortex for warranty. But if I was a rifle hunter I’d be running a bergara with a vortex scope
@michaelglenning5107 Жыл бұрын
BERGARA has been sending out rifles with muzzle devices at .oo5 over bore, when they need to be .020, which greatly decreases accuracy.
@LosDoyerss Жыл бұрын
Bergara has the best barrels in the business. B-14. I have the Bergara BMP in 6.5 CM and it's an absolute tac driver.
@ytho8217 10 ай бұрын
this man develops loads for rifles he's reviewing while every established old school magazine is just accepting a manufacturers' free-vacation-invitations to go to blast captive animals in overseas game farms, and then comes back and says, "WOW, [every single rifle we review] IS AMAZING!!!!!" true dedication to the game from our canadian
@EpikArms 10 ай бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate it!
@Checo1 Жыл бұрын
is the barrel in the Tikka UPR the same as the CTR, only difference is the stock?
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
Based on my observations, yes
@xarboreus 8 ай бұрын
Where can you buy just the Tikka action to drop into a XRS chasis
@EpikArms 8 ай бұрын
Not sure anyone just sells the action. I would recommend looking for a used t3x
@reallygoodideanetwork3574 8 ай бұрын
Maybe a bigger muzzle brake might help the bergara
@harmoniousembodiment7203 Жыл бұрын
Is Tikka not available in Commiefornia?
@sparkone007 Жыл бұрын
Work on a better Load to shoot with the HMR, that looks like minimal load work at best. The Bergara HMR really is a bench gun that can put in some impressive groups. I dont know how it shot that bad, but that was bad. What was the bullet and load for that? You should post that. For both rifles! Its good to have all of the info, not just the pics. . But still, the Bergera is a underdog in the world of guns. But really well built rifles, I have two, 7 rem mag, and 308 hmr, both have smooth actions, great barrels and much better accuracy than what you just put up. The load you where hitting the steel with was the load that shot that crap on paper? Something changed from the paper to the steel.
@danielkinsler46 Жыл бұрын
Thought the UPR rifles had a 24” barrel? Sure that isnt a CTR in a UPR stock??
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
nope its a UPR, it can depend what the imorters order them as Tikka does a lot of "Variations" for example canadian t3x's are almost exclusively stailness, and depending on the retailer they come with factory muzzle breaks. also some UPR's have a set trigger, this one does not.
@markn4526 Ай бұрын
Available in either 20" or 23.7".
@alexsmart5452 2 жыл бұрын
Bergara pro vs upr seems like a better comparison.
@rmarasco1420 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome review and comparison. Question: Do you reload rifle specific? Or, one load for all 6.5 rifles?
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
I reload for every rifle. I do the full load development for each.
@yl3064 6 ай бұрын
Another vote for Tikka, plus bolt throw ( angle ) vs an old remington action reviewed and improved , again…
@eric412 2 жыл бұрын
get video thanks for sharing. what powder do you use?
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
I use 6.5 staball
@aberhan 2 жыл бұрын
And the winner is (for me) the Tikka.
@Bravo-jf7qb 3 жыл бұрын
Why is the Bergara jaming so much?
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
that was due to necksizing only, a mistake i wont do again with that rifle. when i fully resize there arent any issues like that
@jonathanm1854 Жыл бұрын
Tikka walks all over bergara. The barrel is roughly 100fps slower. My 6.5 tikka 24” is running 147 eld with staball 6.5 at 2740
@nicsu2128 2 жыл бұрын
New title “Tikka fan boy talks about how much he loves his tikka”. You’re welcome.
@adamelam6385 Жыл бұрын
Well when you've owned both it's hard not to prefer Tikka. I know I did.
@ryanroby2630 8 ай бұрын
Glad I seen that comment before watching full thing.
@nicsu2128 8 ай бұрын
@@adamelam6385I have 2 Tikkas and a Bergara HMR just like the one he has, but I’m 6.5PRC. It is definitely among my favorite rifles. My HMR shoots 143gr ELDXs just over 1/4 MOA. Where my 6.5CM Tikka shoots a respectable .75MOA and Tikka 30-06 shoots closer to 1MOA. Tikkas are fine guns, but the plastic ones (my 30-06 has wood chassis) feel like cheap Tupperware. The moment this guy said they have a better stock than the Bergara, was the moment I knew he was a tikka fan boy. I don’t know if his HMR barrel didn’t like the bullet he was using or if the guy who owned it before him shot out the barrel, but those groups were atrocious for any Bergara barrel. He said the Bergara doesn’t come with a rail, which is false, it comes with a 20MOA rail, out of the box. My order of favorite rifle MFGs I own goes: 1) Seekins 2) Bergara 3) Browning 4) Tikka 5) Ruger
@adamelam6385 8 ай бұрын
@@nicsu2128 everyone's experiences are different but my 3 Tikkas are sub moa with factory ammo. I've only had a Bergara Hunter in 7mm-08 but it was very picky on ammo. I never got it close to sub moa. When I had a shell hang up on me on a follow up shot I got rid of it. That's just my experience. I know they are good rifles because they get too much attention from marksman but I like Tikkas personally.
@nicsu2128 8 ай бұрын
@@adamelam6385 If you’re struggling to get sub MOA out of it, send it in. Bergara’s Sub MOA Guarantee is very solid if you send it in. It’s not like some mfgs who shoot a 7rd group and if 4 of them are within a 1” group they call it good. They do 2 3-shot groups on bags. Both groups start from cold bore and both groups have to be sub MOA to pass. For 7mm-08 the ammo they use is 120gr SSTs. If yours doesn’t shoot it well, send it in.
@domsawyer8953 2 жыл бұрын
"Those 4 inches do make a difference." --That's what she said
@z06ix 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I have a Tac A1, great review....
@siddy957 3 жыл бұрын
Is the TAC A1 the same barreled action in a chassis do you know?
@z06ix 3 жыл бұрын
@@siddy957 not sure
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its the same barreled action.
@siddy957 3 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms Tac A1 next then ? 😅😉
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
@@siddy957 not currently planned, unless i find one for cheap
@chiwiitube 2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the Savage 110 Ultralite?
@spacepathfinder1 3 жыл бұрын
i bought tikka after watching youtube videos including yours. You all show how smooth is action without bullet in the chamber but when you load it is different story. My bergara b 14 hmr and b14 sporter both have smoother action than tikka t3x when bullet is in.
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 3 жыл бұрын
Probably has a looser chamber. Might explain the sub par accuracy.
@belt1974123 3 жыл бұрын
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Sub par accuracy? Most seem to be getting the opposite with the Bergaras. Wish he would of tried some hornady match instead of handloads in the vid. The handloads could be the accuracy issue.
@pwn3426 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Sub par accuracy? rofl OK! My Bergara HMR in 308 is the complete opposite of this review.
@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 2 жыл бұрын
@@pwn3426 and that is exactly the issue. Bergara has a history of boring the chamber off center, which would produce these results. This rifle is a sample of one but it is an example of a lack of qc
@pwn3426 2 жыл бұрын
@@greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Yeah this is the absolute first i have ever seen this mentioned ever......
@larrymayfield2142 2 жыл бұрын
I paid 1250 in the US for my UPR
@nikolajmlgaard7134 Жыл бұрын
The CTR mags are not great. I am an instructor on a riffel range and I own a CTR in 6,5 Creedmoor. I have seen a lot of issues with the mags (they are TRG 22 mags). They dont always feed well and some of them have issues if you change stocks or bed the it. I would have prefered AICS mags.
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
thanks for commenting your experience, I appreciate the opinion from someone with the expertise!
@geeccc5674 Жыл бұрын
Big factor for me is you can get the upr in stainless, for a real hunting rifle that matters
@lynx-alpha2073 Жыл бұрын
I think that the comparisons should be made with closer priced rifles, for me its a 550 eur diffrence and that buys half a scope
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
In Canada at the time they were about 150 -200 difference
@lynx-alpha2073 Жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms Fair point, you couldnt have predicted the future price gap and i understand that 200 is the same price class. Im looking for a 1st long range gun and your series is extremely helpfull. Somehow canadas market is a lot more like the EU. Im still left with the feeling that the b14 is competing with other tikka rifles then the upr.
@jimmorwood9715 Жыл бұрын
But is it Teflon coated
@EpikArms Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that's what the coating in on the upr/ctr/tac a1
@jordanpruitt8839 2 жыл бұрын
Why not compare the HMR pro? They’re the same price and the pro is twice the gun
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
mostly because i dont have a HMR Pro.... not yet :)
@andrewtanczyk4009 3 жыл бұрын
The Tikka barrels are slow? 🤨. First time hearing that. Thanks for the information ℹ️. Yet you have a 20” barrel for the UPR. What’s the barrel length of the Bergara? You can get the Tikka UPR in 24”. Unless what caliber are you using? 2550 FPS UPR 2620 FPS Bergara Thanks for the information ℹ️. I really have to do enough research before I purchase either the Bergara or Tikka. Tough pick.
@LiteralCrimeRave 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it has a 22" in 6.5 CM. And a 20 in .308
@jolujo5842 2 жыл бұрын
When did you last pack a rifle on a true hunting trip? Hunters carry the weight needed to complete the hunt. No bitching about the weight of their rifles. 💥🔥
@sounds_like_pain3345 2 жыл бұрын
The moment when even the B14 HMR is 2 k in Australia 😑
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
ouch that's rough,
@mannyr7206 2 жыл бұрын
Feels quite biased. I have no dog in this fight but it feels like you like Tikka more. Despite the 600 difference in pricepoint.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
hi Manny, I do have more experience with Tikka's since I have like 4 of them. and reviews often are just my opinion on 2 different rifles, I do my best to present it in a way that that lets you choose what is most important to you. thanks for watching!
@victorimbornone5125 2 жыл бұрын
Except the UPR costs 40-50% more than the HMR and AICS mags are less than a third of the cost of a Tikka's mag.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thats a lot more, in Canada the upr is about 2000$ and the HMR is about 1600$
@victorimbornone5125 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms In Texas the street price for a Bergara B14 HMR is ~$900 and the street price for a Tikka UPR ~$1400. Bought a Bergara B14 HMR in 6.5 Creedmoor in December 2019 for $850 and just bought a Bergara Premier HMR in .308 for $1600 last month.
@Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage Жыл бұрын
Spoke to Bergara US the other morning. Here’s what I learned. Bergara claims “Remington pattern ” with their B14 series rifles. That applies only to the receiver . If you want to make changes, such as bottom metal, you can’t. Everything other than the receiver is proprietary to Bergara! If you have other rifles that use a certain magazine, and you want to convert your B14, you can’t! You’re stuck with different mags for the same round but different rifles. AICS pattern magazines is about the design, not the size. One might expect 300 Win Mag in an HMR, remember it's a match rifle, to have the longest magazine possible., 3.850. You would be wrong! You have to go to 300 PRC for the 3.850”. Sure what Bergara uses works. But it won’t contain those really long 300s. The HMR 300 Win Mag magazine measures approx. 3.53” inside. Why they spend money making two different bottom metals and magazines in a 300 class round, when they only need one, would seem to be a waste of company money. It seems Bergara is putting the screws their customers. If you paid extra money for the Wilderness version, you may feel ripped off if you bought a magnum HMR. And no. Bergara will not sell you a replacement bottom metal. Someday they plan to. Doesn’t that make you feel all warm and fuzzy. I hope this helps clear up any confusion. If a long magazine is important to you, a few of Bergara competitors have rifles in they price class that have the big magazines.
@Mungo-Man 2 ай бұрын
If I had to carry one of these all day i know which one I would prefer. BTW if you bother to take the time and look at the ballistics between a bullet doing 70fps slower than faster even at 1000 you would not be able to call or judge the difference without the use of an app. The difference is negligible. If it is an issue then forget the 20" and jump on the 24" version with 20MOA rail
@patthis 3 жыл бұрын
Great review...ill take both...lol
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, thanks Patthis!
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job I was going to buy the 6.5 creedmore stainless steel true camo for $899 should I consider the upr?
@EpikArms 3 жыл бұрын
keep in mind im no hunter. and Tikka's rifle generally all perform really nicely, the added thickess of the barrel will get you more follow up shots that will be more accurate than a pencil thin hunting barrel (then again how often does3 consecutive shots happen) if you are looking for a hunting/target gun that is extremely capable than yes the UPR would be my choice
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you are the best thanks very much I just don’t like to buy something twice I’d rather buy a rifle that does everything at once thanks now I Ned a scope?
@juanrodriguez-mu7ko 3 жыл бұрын
Need I meant sorry
@leematrix801 Жыл бұрын
If you like Tikka more just say it lol I’m a huge Bergara fan. Nothing against Tikka but I guess everybody has their opinion.
@anotherday056 Жыл бұрын
You must have got a Limon with the B14. I've had 3 Bergara's and even my 308 and 3006 woodsman shoot way better than that one. My 6.5 HMR average across all groups totel is always just below or just above 1/2" moa. If I could slow my shots all the time ND barrel the same temperature would and does do better than that. That's why the HMR Pro with Stainless Steel Barrel is more suited for some and definitely would have been a better comparison for this video. Last note, I've never took 2 different rifles even from same manufacturers and them like the same ammo.
@matthewkretz4257 2 жыл бұрын
What province ?
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in ontario
@matthewkretz4257 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms Great content! Recently sold my 700 and now looking into a Bergara 308 or maybe a Tikka for my new hunting rifle.
@magnumcipher4971 2 жыл бұрын
My HMR is without question the more accurate rifle when compared to my UPR. The HMR isn’t load sensitive at all, making load development a challenge (in the best way). I’ll pick up the HMR ahead of the UPR every time.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
What powder and bullet are you using?
@magnumcipher4971 2 жыл бұрын
@@EpikArms I use 42.0 grains of H4350, Hornady brass, CCI primers, 143 grain Hornady ELD-X’s, COL at 2.8200”. I have a Ruger RPR in 6.5 CM that likes that exact same load, but honestly, both of them will shoot just about anything I’ve put through them.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
@@magnumcipher4971 thanks! I havent bought any 143gr eld's thanks for the recipe!
@bobvi5490 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Bullet seating depth with .308 WIn 178 grain Hornady ELD-Match makes very little diference they're all sub moa. Guess I need more practice so I can shoot well enough to notice a difference with the HMR.
@camonly849 Жыл бұрын
With tikka you can register it with tikka and they will send you a mag for free.
@Jaygorski Жыл бұрын
Use your palm instead of your fingers when ejecting rounds/cases. So your hand is going to be open unlike when you use your fingers your hand is closed. Think about getting a better rest and rabbit ear bag, Caldwell is the worst.
@clownworld7763 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda looks like the bergara just doesn't like that bullet.
@clownworld7763 2 жыл бұрын
Try the 123 gr bullet range in the bergara. I have had great results.
@diedfrombored5295 Жыл бұрын
Should compare Tikka UPR with Bergara HMR Pro next, because that Bergara rifle is closer in price to Tikka than the B14, thanks. Tikka UPR vs Sako S20!!!
@failure2flinch876 2 жыл бұрын
I cringe every time you put your hand over the muzzle! Why do you do that?
@micstica 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, but. For thosr of us who see a $2000 purchase that includes, say an arken scope this review is not apples to apples. I dont know if the tika comes in just action and barrel config. Also you havent addressed concerns about the b14 bolt. Granted you may not have encountered any but its still a known proplem. You are right about the weight. I picked up a b14 and thought there is no way I going to drag this through the woods and the extra weight is not needed for 6.5 recoil, weight, right, forgot the 2 pound scope. How about a $1500 gun vs a $1500 gun. The b14 is touted as the bang for buck offering but there is more out there than tika. At this point in your youtube career I would think you could source other options rather than your personal collection. Support canadian content eh, just sayin mon ami.
@EpikArms 2 жыл бұрын
hi Micstica, thanks for the feedback, generally everything I buy is for the channel, (also i buys a lot of used rifles) I do attempt to work with firearm manufacturers here in Canada, but generally they don't answer as id love to get my hands on the MRX Bison in 556. but other than them, PGW, Cadex, Savage. there aren't too many firearms manufacturers on our side here
@Keifsanderson 2 жыл бұрын
What's the deal with the bolt? Imyon the fence about the B-14 vs upgrading to their premium action.
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