Imagine if berserk got the same animation quality that demon slayer had.

It's not bad because it's in 3D It's because it's in bad 3D

"Look how they massacred my boy" -Kentaro Miura

My issue with cg is mostly due to the fps of the animation. It always looks choppy. A 24fps hand drawn animation looks vastly smoother than a 24fps cgi scene

Why does this entire show look like a shitty video game cutscene.

>Go to a restaurant >Order a steak >Waiter comes 10 minutes later and takes a shit on my plate >"Hey, better than nothing"

Watching this video makes me so happy that David Productions is handling JoJo. Both Berserk and JoJo I would consider very difficult to adapt manga yet David Productions has done a great job so far.

Griffith created the CGI just to make guts mad

I think I'll stick to the manga

Let me also add, why the hell do they have filler episodes when the manga has 300+ chapters already. There is no excuse for fillers

Rest In Peace Miura. Your work truly touched the lives of many, and heavily inspired many others.

Best manga ever And Worst anime ever Perfectly balanced.

Berserk 2016 pushed me so far over the edge of despair that it's a good thing I don't have a Behelit.

His sword sounds like a frying pan no joke

keep in mind there is a purpose to the animation quality! its clearly supposed to make us feel the same pain Guts did during the eclipse

My experience was that the show made me physically nauseous, and I don’t mean because I was upset at how bad it was. I mean it made me actually motion sick watching it, I had to watch it in a window 1/4th the size of my computer screen just to stay grounded and not vomit... I feel so bad for anyone who tried to watch this on a full tv. Also just my 2 cents, it really felt like it was edited by a 2nd year film major trying to show off everything he had learned to do at the exact same time.

The camera work in episode one was nearly motion sickness inducing. Thank you for explaining the rules of cinema and why it doesn't work!

am I the only one that gets annoyed when mature anime gets censored?

I just finished Berserk 1997, loved it. Went straight onto Berserk 2016, WTF? What is this garbage??

I think that CGI can be used right. Attack on Titan proves this.

I'm still shocked that people defend the 2016 anime.

7:31 "And then comes episode two..." That was only episode one?!

beastars proved 3D can be done right, Berserk 2016 sucks because it was never meant to be 3D, and because the 3D was done so poorly

After finally watching Berserk 1997 (I first refrained thinking the Manga must have aged a lot better than the anime and it would ruin it for me), I'm even more dissapointed in this version. 1997 was terrific; with some gorgeous art work, stellar voice acting and characterization, and it told the story is such a beautiful way. This version... I don't think the people behind it really got what Berserk was about I usually get bored easily especially by old anime, but it was the slow quiet moments that were the most immersive, being perfectly juxtaposed with everything else. Everyone complains about the lack of motion, but it's compensated with every frame being art and that mskes its poignant moments hit harder. This Berserk... besides looking terrible, misses what makes Berserk beautiful and heart wrenching. Sure it's a guy with a big sword who kicks tons of ass, but it's the journey he takes with his comrades that is the main draw, and this show misses that.

It also doesn't make sense that they are using 2 completely different types of shading....at the same time.

The worst part for me is the hand drawn scenes (as few as there are) are actually pretty damned good. Its just so jarring going from a good, manga accurate Guts close up to some low fps weird pointy chinned cosplayer being filmed by some first year film students. And oh god the random camera angles, you're so right about them. The latest episode had some pretty horrific camera angle examples, random pan and zoom into part of castle wall then pan zoom out of cage. It looked like someone was learning to use Sony Vegas.

Looks like whoever hired the director took Muira’s “Berserk is a Shojou series” too seriously.

"Explain why Berserk 2016 is bad" "Do you have eyes?!"

How does this video have so many dislikes? HOW!!? Even your Bleach video, which has a younger audience watching I'm sure, has less dislikes than this. HOW are there FANS of 2016's Berserk anime? I don't understand, is that even a possibility? Old fans should immediately be disgusted, and newcommers should get repelled by the awful -everything- this anime has. I can't possibly imagine how this anime gathered defenders.

The problem is not that it's 3D CGI.The problem is that is shitty 3D CGI.

Land of the Lustrous is a good example of beautiful cg

Just finished 1997 series last week and couldn't be more disappointed by this. I wanted so much to keep going with Berserk story and when I stumbled upon 2016 series I was like... yeah, no thanks. 1997 series was great and it's the first time an anime made me feel like actually purchasing the manga, but after seeing the number of volumes and their prices and considering the fact I don't like to read from the screen I was hoping the 2016 anime I kept hearing about was a good continuation. The hell it is. I don't know how someone could come up with this mess and think it's well made or that it does justice to Berserk in the slightest lol

Why is it that Attack on Titan, a manga that is very rough stylistically (at least in the beginning) and hasn't been around nearly as long, could get such a great anime, but Berserk couldn't? Though at the end of the day I can just read the manga and animate it in my own mind. Hooray for imagination.

Hey, Just put your grasses on and nothing will be wong

Someone has to save berserk :( we need no cgi just like the old anime but continuation that picks up where the old anime ended

Berserk 2016 is one of the rare proofs that art could indeed be objective

Why would they get some ultra-moe anime directer to work on something that's meant to be incredibly gritty/action horror centred? It makes absolutely no fucking sense to get someone who literally specialises in making the exact opposite of what they're meant to be making. Why would anyone even think it would be a good idea? WHY!?!?

0/10 no cgi dragons

Me: "It's awful" Friend : "No it's not!" Me: "Watch the CGI movies" *Later* Friend:: "Oh my god you were right"

People have no right to complain about Black Clover’s animation when this hideous garbage exists 🗿

There will never be a Berserk drawn in a style of Akira. Fuck this age of 3D castrated animes.

aslo every scene running at 20 fps doesn't help neither....

The cut that happens a little after 10:13 is horrifying for a video editor.

"I’ve come to regret how I depicted Berserks director Shin Itagaki" - here's the thing... if he was in charge, as you suggest, then the responsibility falls on him. If someone was in charge of him, twisting his arm to make decisions he didn't want to make, then the responsibility shifts to them, though he's still responsible since he can choose to stay in an environment like that, or he can leave. Maybe he did his best, despite challenges. Who knows. Either way, Berserk 2016 was shit, and we shouldn't pretend it wasn't. Maybe if the company behind it took responsibility, like people who care about users should, you wouldn't need to speculate about what happened. But they didn't, to my knowledge, so you did. At the end of the day, these people are making a product, and if people are releasing shitty, poorly made products, we're all worse off, and you could even consider it unethical. Imagine if we had a world where, instead of peddling constant shit for profit, people were dedicated to doing things well and infusing them with care, love, and passion. What a world that would be. It's fine to experiment and practice and get better, but I see too many people and companies using commercial products as a way to do that. I find that unethical, troublesome, and detrimental. If lesser quality works are released, they should be priced accordingly. Surprise, Berserk 2016 will likely be priced similarly to much better made things, which again, is unethical. You could perhaps, in future, not state things as if you know what happened if you don't--that's an important thing to do. Notice how I use terms like "likely" and "may" to make it clear that certain statements aren't statements of fact. But it's fine to speculate, and it's also fine to point out inconsistencies and call something poorly done if it is. It's good that you care, and we should treat each other well. But don't let that hold you back from making strong statements that may or may not be popular. For more on that, read the great "Writing well" series by David Sirlin. Also see his great article, "The Sheathed Sword in Software Development," where he talks about it matters to design things well from the get go, so you don't end up with something shit and cause unnecessary suffering later on. I think your video had value, even if minor parts of it could have been executed better. Judging by the over 1 million views you got, it seems other people also feel it had value. (Views don't always = quality, but for an obscure topic like this, I feel it's a good indicator.)

The wind is blowing hard on Guts' cape, but not on the trees in 6:45

And in my opinion , the only guy/team that can do BERSERK , feel and look like BERSERK and not like a crappy shit and catch the whole feeling and goresome world , are the guys behind HELLSING ULTIMATE and/or BASILISK Those guys nailed it big time , everything sticked to original manga , epic direction and voice acting etc ..

On the topic of bad CGI: The Rebuild of Evangelion trilogy (WHEN’S FINAL ANNO!) as magnificent CGI and does look out of place, but they use it to good effect. This, however, is just saddening. I just today caught up with Manga Berserk and I’m breathless. Beautiful drawings! And this just pisses me off. I’ve also seen the golden age movies, and those just kick this joke of an anime’s ass. EDIT: And even knights of Sidonia has good CG! (Time for a rewatch BTW)

I've recently watched first two series of Hellsing again and I feel like quite the same happened to the Ultimate version of it: staging, direction, speechwriting, logic, visuals - EVERYTHING failed. I think it could be really interesting make a comparison of the first episodes scene by scene, tells a lot about things you try to explain about visual storytelling. Btw, really cool channel I was really glad to discover it yesterday. Thank you for your work!

"Why..." *sigh* "WHY IS CASKA WHITE?!" LMAO Yes, my thoughts

My biggest problem with Berserk 2016 is that its more focused on trying to be shocking and "cool": throwing bad rock music at you while being as overly violent as possible, without having a good, well thought out adult story behind it. That's not to say that Berserk isn't overly violent, but it was also intelligent. It delved into the philosophy of the characters and gave them proper arcs. The 2016 anime feels more like an R rated Michael Bay film minus any good visuals. I don't know if the manga is any better. I hope it is.

Also wanted to add as someone who animates both in 2D and 3D: All the artistic rules are much easier to apply to a 2D image, when adjusting composition is a matter of redrawing a line or two directly in the camera view, while in 3D you have to move, rotate and scale things around in a three dimensional space, while often looking at the end camera result in another view than the one you are adjusting the object on. This also goes for the shapes: In 2D you just draw the character in a cool pose without a concern of anything that's outside the camera, while often in CG things clip through each other and rigs break. Even though there is much from 2D I can apply to 3D, it's really a lot harder in my opinion to pull off since 2D is so directly linked to the end result.

I absolutely love the way you explain stuff and one of the best quote for me was "It is like blaming the paint for the mistake of the painter." This explains soooo well why 3d is not what makes an anime bad but it is the way 3d is used. The more I watch your videos the more I think you are a genius, you have hundreds of lines that are extremely quotable and very good at proving your points.

Wait, the same guy that managed to capture the energy and fun of playing a Devil May Cry game completely dropped everything he knew when he started directing Berserk? Passion or not, this is almost like he is just phoning in his directions and leaving the inexperienced crew to deal with it themselves.

i believe the main problem with berserk adaptations, is that miura doesn't give a shit about them; He is the same as araki which stated that he doesn't really pay attention to the adaptation of his work because what mattters to him is the manga, but there are 2 main diffrerences between them: 1) who is doing the adaptation: jojo is being made by an ex-gonzo studio, veterans of the industry and are being directed by a jojo fan itself and a staff that pours it soul in it ( even the off shore korean animators seem to be on it too ) while berserk is being made by the tekyu studio and as you said a moe blob director, hell if they wanted to do it in 3D so bad they could have got Polygon, they are the kings of turning CG into something tolerable and they have pleny of experience in somber works, but they didn't. 2) Miura doesn't give a fuck: Araki doesn't care about the anime, OVA's or games. BUT if he hear that the quality of them could put a negative spotlight on his work he will do everything on his power to stop that ( the phantom blood movie ), while miura just don't give a fuck about anything entirely.

I feel terrible for Kintaro, man’s dead and pretty much all of the adaptations of Berserk have massive flaws. Original series has little animations, movies have bad 3D, and 2016 series is *insert this video. Man never lived to see a great adaptation of Berserk

This is something like my third rewatch of this video, and I've only just realised that your outro music is from the credits of Killer 7...man I'd love to see you do a video on that game

I would say it's Lovecraftian, non-euclidean geometry.

I couldn't believe they skipped the Lost Children arc. Hell, I can *still* barely believe it. Yeah, I guess maybe the studio was squeamish about the series' mass appeal if one of the earliest arcs is just filled to the brim with dead children, and I can see why a director so used to lighthearted comedies starring school-aged kids wouldn't want to work on such an arc, but... ...look, I'll get my gushing out of the way first: the Lost Children arc was one of my favorite story arcs in anything ever. It had great characters, great artwork, great action, and it basically did everything right. But on a more general sense, I think that it was ludicrously important to Berserk as a whole. One of the most memorable features of Berserk was its ability to make the protagonist *frightening*. I still get chills when I look back at the last fight between Guts and Rosine, and seeing things through the eyes of the Knights of the Iron Chain as they followed the Black Swordsman's footsteps made it perfectly clear just how Guts can have such a reputation as a monster when he spends almost all his time fighting *literal* monsters. And on a larger scale, Rosine gave so much depth to the Apostles. The Count was the first example: rather than the unambiguously monstrous snake guy, the Count was every bit as horrific...but when asked to choose between being dragged to hell or sacrificing his beloved daughter to heal his wounds, he chose the former. It gave us a perfect example of not only how the sacrifice system worked, but also how deeply a person has to care for a prospective sacrifice for them to be 'valid.' And because the Count's love for his daughter wasn't affected by his fight with Guts, he wasn't in the mental state that the Beheilt's normally prey upon when they activate. Rosine, on the other hand, was...innocent, I suppose. It was to a fault, mind you, because throughout the arc, her 'evil' seemed to be more a product of her Beheilt (and Apostle form) turning the imagination she had used to keep herself afloat in an awful home life and then corrupting it into a full-blown delusion. It took a child's developing understanding of morals and twisted it into something more frightening than a hell of a lot of what other Apostles do out of malice, but that was important to see, as was her love for her friend Jill and her reaction to meeting an *actual* elf in Puck. Mozgus went on to do something similar: both he and Rosine showed that understanding the evil of one's actions is not requirement for actually doing them. It also made Griffith more monstrous by comparison. And Guts? Hoo-boy. This was easily one of the biggest landmarks for Guts' character arc. Puck had been with him for some time now, but this arc was the first time when he actually started to become human again. I mentioned getting chills when I re-read his fight with Rosine, and I think it would be an insult to Miura if I didn't credit his brilliant artwork for it. The contrast between Rosine, even in her full Apostle form, and Guts is just...amazing. When pushed to their absolute physical and mental extremes, both Rosine and Guts seem to lose themselves in what they truly are at heart. Rosine becomes a sad, broken child who realized the extent of what she had done and is reduced to tears of sorry and joy in equal measure when she learns that Puck is an elf, and that the Misty Valley once *did* have an elf village. And Guts...he becomes the Black Swordsman. All his hate and fury and bloodlust warps him into something that Miura does a brilliant job of making both purely human but also more monstrous and terrifying than Rosine herself. But by the arc's end...Guts is starting to change for the better. If Guts is on a road to becoming either the Skull Knight or Nosferatu Zodd, the end of the Lost Children arc is when he starts moving more towards the former than the latter. Both paths still result in a loss of humanity, but the former is more about physical humanity while the latter is about metaphorical/figurative humanity. The Skull Knight might be inhuman, but of the two Zodd is clearly the monster. The things Guts says to Jill are what makes her resolve to fight to make her little village a place that she doesn't want to run from, and of all the bittersweet arc finales in Berserk, it's one of the only ones to feel genuinely hopeful. And in turn, it led perfectly into the next arc with the Knights of the Holy Iron Chain, what with Guts having been so exhausted physically and mentally by this entire ordeal that they could actually apprehend him. ...fuck me, that was longer than expected. But whatever, in for a penny and all that. Point is, Berserk 2016 lost a lot of points right out of the starting gate for its janky animation, but I think there were other, deeper problems than that. We get basically no time at all between the end of the Golden Age films and this new series to see Guts as he was during the Black Swordsman arc or the Lost Children Arc, and for the life of me I don't know why. In the manga, we were introduced to Guts as a ruthless monster-hunter who kills Apostles, but does so in ways that make us question just how genuinely heroic he could be. Then we got the Golden Age arc, learned what could make a man like Guts, and went back to the present just in time for the Lost Children arc, to learn what it could take to *change* a man like that. Instead, we got this. And even the pretenses of Guts' arrest suffer through all this. The Knights of the Holy Iron Chain are tracking him because...why? In the manga, it was because Guts left a long and gruesome trail of bodies behind him in his Apostle hunts. But here, Farnesse thinks he's the not-antichrist, and they found a couple dead bodies, and...I guess the Band of the Hawk matters a lot more in-universe now, because I have no idea why the Vatican would care about a dead mercenary company, however famous they had become. I've certainly watched worse anime. I've certainly disliked others more than this. But I guess it just felt...disappointing, and when I love Berserk so much, that made it all the worse.

Studio: the animation is top tier, right? The fandom:🎵 Put your grasses on, everything looks wrong🎵

Thanks for the upload!!

smh The Band of the Hawks didn't die for this

Hey guys, bleach video got taken down by a copyright strike, Ive filed a counter notice and Ill upload a video when it goes back up, apologies about the inconvenience

The camera work in Berserk 2016 and Berserk 2017 is proof that sometimes less is more. Both shows were moving the camera way too much in an attempt to make scenes look better when in reality they made them look worse. 3D animation does provide an opportunity to make some really cool shots that you can’t easily do with 2D animation, but you need to remember to ask yourself if you’re moving the camera because you think it will improve a scene or because you think it will look cool. Quality over quantity.

When you listed the two possible problems, it’s a combination of both. They made 24 episodes with the budget of 12, and then the director wasn’t for for the directing of something so still like Berserk

This looks like a 1990's cutscene from a video game on a floppy disk. Also, the DMC series the director did a great job with the animation on that so what the hell? Ahh well.

7:29 Guts' finger is phasing through the dagger, holy shit even the models in this show are unstable, I can't believe it almost a year later.

Having the spatial awareness of a cat with a degree in Euclidean geometry is now inexplicably one of my life goals.

Became a huge berserk fan in recent years I unfortunately haven't been able to read the manga but I love the three movies have done as much lore hunting and research to fill in the gaps and forced myself through the 2016 anime. Really wish I would had just stopped before that but I was craving more beserk and couldn't help it.

"Why is Casca white.... WHY IS CASCA WHITE!?" Same, my dude. Same.

6:54 Guts' cape here reminds me of an Arkham Knight glitch

If only Ufotable made Berserk (2016)

They tried to pull a JoJos and didn't understand what made the JoJos anime good.

imagine MADHOUSE do berserk trilogy......my god....

Just wait When David Productions catches up with Jojo's, they'll drill straight into this

It doesn't just confuse the audience, it gives them motion sickness.

I got into Berserk because of the 2016 version. At least it's helping them get new audience.

I was so excited for this I cant believe how bad it looks : S

Well, this got out of hand

i hate how some things are moving smoother than others, like 60 fps within a 30 fps

The Eclipse was ruined! It's so iconic that I can't believe they released it.

Holy god.... Looks like shitty ps2 graphics at some moments ..

this video convinced me to read the manga

Fascinating analysis! thank you.

The constant movement of the camera reminds me of the camera movements in The Great Gatsby (specifically the newer version). The camera was constantly moving and cutting to different shots. It was so bad that I had trouble paying attention to the dialogue and narration and I could hardly tell what was even going on. Seriously, watching that movie made me dizzy. It was like the camera couldn’t sit still, like a hyperactive, over-caffeinated child with ADHD.

Well I watched Berserk 2016 and considered it good enough.. Theeeen watched the 1997 anime and the golden age arc movies and now I totally hate the 2016 sequel...

People unironicly defend this anime.

I think one of the things you mentioned about the bar scene in the anime, that's actually very hard for me to do in manga as well. Determining the distance and space around several characters in multiple panels can actually be fairly difficult for my brain to register, even in a well made manga like berserk.

RIP... Rewatching the SEW Berserk trilogy of videos to get hyped for reading the manga again

Of all the anime they could have fucked up this year, why must it be Berserk :(

I really dont care about how bad Berserk 2016 looked, but if they are gonna skip half of the manga then they might aswell just not animate it at all.

Congrats on 1 million views!

Great review

Japan does shitty cg that's what happened UPDATE: I watched Land of the Lustrous, I take this comment back

I still don't understand why people behind the Golden Age movies didn't just continue...

Just watched this video and it’s got Killer7 music at the end!! Yesss. Also good vidya.

also guts' face is too long and its throwing me off

to be fair *Spoiler* when the anime reaches the Tower, Casca is her usual skin colour.

berserk 2016 was such an awful abomination that I didnt bother watching the rest after episode 1. A massive let down from the golden age movies

I think one of the mistakes they make is trying to emulate the "low frame rate" style of anime with very detailed 3D models. If the models are simpler and very stylized it can work, the more detail you put into them the more it doesn't look "low frame rate" and more just choppy. As a small example, in the 2012 remake of "Space Battleship Yamato" all scenes that use primarily 3D models like the space combat scenes they are rendered in a "fluent" frame rate while the traditionally animated scenes are done with the low frame rate of normal anime. And even when both of them overlapped it wasn't really jarring to have the different frame rate styles mix, as the 3D was used for spaceships and "tech" devices that would stand out somewhat anyway. Additionally the movements just look very stiff, in anime you can easily freeze on a single pose and just have the face move, in 3D it makes it look like your model stopped animating properly. So combine choppy looking movements, a color palette that doesn't pop, stiff movements and models that are too detailed for all this, you don't just have a bad anime, you have bad animation.

I vote for giving Berserk to David Productions. If they do it with the same level of production as they've done JoJo it would be breath-taking.