Best 3 Bullets for Hunting! - Season 2: Episode 60

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Ron Spomer Outdoors - Podcast

Ron Spomer Outdoors - Podcast

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Welcome to the Ron Spomer Outdoors Podcast! In this episode, I answer questions about moose hunting, my top 3 hunting bullets, and more!
00:00 - Intro
00:59 - If you had to choose three bullets for doing all of your hunting for the rest of your life, what would they be?
04:00 - 6.5 Creedmoor or 308 for hunting whitetail deer?
05:45 - How did the 30-06 become what it is today?
07:56 - Do you have any moose hunting tips
11:27 - Where do you recommend going for your first international hunt?
14:22 - What happens to BC and expansion when the tip of a cartridge is removed?
16:48 - Inline muzzleloaders or traditional muzzleloaders? Which do you prefer and why?
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Who is Ron Spomer
For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
Produced by: Red 11 Media - www.red11media.com/
Disclaimer
All loading, handloading, gunsmithing, shooting and associated activities and demonstrations depicted in our videos are conducted by trained, certified, professional gun handlers, instructors, and shooters for instructional and entertainment purposes only with emphasis on safety and responsible gun handling. Always check at least 3 industry handloading manuals for handloading data, 2 or 3 online ballistic calculators for ballistic data. Do not modify any cartridge or firearm beyond what the manufacturer recommends. Do not attempt to duplicate, mimic, or replicate anything you see in our videos. Firearms, ammunition, and constituent parts can be extremely dangerous if not used safely.

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@garyh1449
@garyh1449 Жыл бұрын
I've been partial to Nosler partition bullets for most of my hunting. They have been good performers so I see no reason to change.
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra Жыл бұрын
Same here.
@MarktheSharkC
@MarktheSharkC Жыл бұрын
No BC!
@22vampyre
@22vampyre Жыл бұрын
@@MarktheSharkC BC means nothing withing ethical distances.
@MarktheSharkC
@MarktheSharkC Жыл бұрын
@@22vampyre my ethical distance must be way further than you! Learn to shoot!
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 Жыл бұрын
My dad and uncle told me 25 years ago Nosler Partition is all you'll ever need . When the Accubond came out they said the only bullets you'll ever need is Nosler Partition and Accubond lol.. Federal Premium TLR Edge works extremely well at longer ranges . IMO the TLR EDGE performs better than the ELDX , or Accubond Long Range .. I'm really not a fan of the ELDX in general except for 6mm ARC. I've had extremely good results with 103g ELDX on hoggs and whitetail.
@daveh2886
@daveh2886 4 ай бұрын
Meat Eater did a good comparison of cup and core, bonded and monolithic bullets. The monolithic failed to expand at 300 yards and beyond. Look at the Norma Bondstrike ammo. It outperforms all of the major brands from a velocity, energy, drop and wind drift.
@johnwurfel2862
@johnwurfel2862 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for being a great, humble, kind man, Ron. It comes through in your conversations.
@scottearnst8152
@scottearnst8152 Жыл бұрын
Hammer! So thankful for there availability Barnes! Thank you Barnes for the innovation and technology research, opened so many doors. ???nosler??? Just don’t know that last projectile Ron, but looking forward to learning! Thanks for another great video!
@lancemiller9110
@lancemiller9110 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ron. Your advice and knowledge is incredible. As an inline muzzleloader Hunter in September, a bow Hunter in November, and a rifle Hunter in December, your videos have educated me for my next grand plan. 7mm-08 it is for my son’s first (and maybe only) whitetail deer rifle . I’m a 30-06 guy myself, but that’s what I grew up with, and I have a special relationship with this rifle. I’ll be watching you for more 7mm-08 videos. Appreciate all your information!
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always keepem coming brother!!!
@grampsoutdooradventuresdal7104
@grampsoutdooradventuresdal7104 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ron, again, for an excellent presentation. I’m a whitetail hunter exclusively and have been stuck on the 308 since I upgraded from the 300 Savage years ago, I hunt in woods not much in meadows. You’re probably already zeroing in on my age so at 69 I find that I share your romance with traditional all the way from recurves & longbows to traditional style muzzle loaders. Keep up the great work and thank you for sharing.
@jasonbroom7147
@jasonbroom7147 Жыл бұрын
I've been using the Accubond bullets in a couple different calibers and they do exactly what a bullet should do. They are Accurate, Penetrate, Expand and Exit. APEE
@bobgordon1754
@bobgordon1754 Жыл бұрын
My favorite bullet in the .300 weatherby is the 200 grain accubond.
@clintonlayne9253
@clintonlayne9253 Жыл бұрын
Ron Now this is one of the best presentation that I have seen in a while .for me it's the 308. When I first entered the world of Muzzleloader hunting I bought a CVA Apollo in line next thing it was a Traditional Muzzleloader by Traditions 1 & 66 twist patched Round balls. I have more sense of accomplishment when I harvest a Deer.
@tlloyd9325
@tlloyd9325 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with the Barnes! As a side bar, I also like the Sierra Game Kings. A wired plus is in my rifles so far they both shoot to the same point of impact with the same hand loads. I’ve only “lost” one animal and that was with a Hornady.
@billhatcher2984
@billhatcher2984 Жыл бұрын
Rite now the accubond is my favorite I have recovered two both under the skin on the off side shoulder and both of them were over 250 yards I have 7 1 shot kills with them 1 deer I had to use a finishing shot all with a 25 WSSM I LOVE IT
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 Жыл бұрын
Ron, a subject I think would be a big hit on your channel is a discussion about trajectory when shooting uphill or downhill. How does that affect bullet travel. I have always been a bit confused about it.
@WildBushGrit
@WildBushGrit Жыл бұрын
I have to agree on the Barnes, its all I've been using the past 5 years... they kill really fast.
@danielrobey1759
@danielrobey1759 Жыл бұрын
For a lead core bullet I really like the Speer hot core. Very tough bullet and easy to get good accuracy with in my experience. I also like the Barnes ttsx in the truly high velocity rounds, it strikes like lightning in the 25/06AI… Honestly how fast you push it and where you place it is more important than the name on the box it came in. I could hunt the rest of my life with the hotcore bullets on anything in North America and be perfectly content.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
When I think about it I have to say the largest animal I have ever harvested was with the smallest bullet I usually use. In years past I have butchered a few beef steers that weighed over 1000 pounds and were all put down with a .22 long rifle and a 40 grain round nose bullet. Each one dropped straight to the ground. All these newer bullets are great with some great science involved with them but the old ones still work very well. The new solids are at this time to expensive for me to seriously consider.
@Platypusklr
@Platypusklr 6 ай бұрын
Federal Terminal Accent in 155 should definitely enter the conversation. Excellent bullet choose for 7 REM Mag out here on the plains.
@johac7637
@johac7637 Жыл бұрын
I started handloading in the late 80s, early 90s got my favorites chosen out, so I stocked up as the case lots were cheap after hunting season closed, so I've not changed much, Barnes, Nosler, Sierra for my 270 Win depending on target, all the way from Yotes, to Moose. again it was what my target was.
@trevorkolmatycki4042
@trevorkolmatycki4042 Жыл бұрын
Ditto on the barnes copper monos. The 168gr TTSX at 3000fps MV works wonders on Moose. I recently set up a 708 for my youngest son as a training/target/junior hunting rifle and the 150gr ELDX is great for that application. They are way less expensive than copper monos and they are precise with high BC… so great for both high volume long range target practice and perfectly adequate on deer hunts. One load for everything… so convenient and economical and accurate.
@robertnichols9232
@robertnichols9232 Жыл бұрын
As a 7mm-08 fan, loved the mention.
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 Жыл бұрын
7mm bullets are my favorite for whitetail. My Tikka 7mm-08 was sub moa straight out of the box.
@dbeardsley0
@dbeardsley0 Жыл бұрын
CVA HMR Paramount is the best muzzleoader I've ever owned. It's capable of killing a whitetail consistently at 400 yards and shoots sub MOA on 3 shot groups at 100
@45-70Guy
@45-70Guy 5 ай бұрын
The technology is great for efficiency, but traditional ways do give you a large increase in satisfaction as far as muzzleloaders, open sights, old cast hand loaded ammo, hunting techniques. Great video
@saltcreekammo
@saltcreekammo Жыл бұрын
As far as Barnes Bullets and monolithic bullets go, the bigger the meplat, the faster expansion you'll get. Tip construction on those bullets is very important...
@patrioticguy1791
@patrioticguy1791 Жыл бұрын
The best bullet I've used when hand loading is the nosler ballistic tip hunting bullet. Great penetration and humane harvests. The best factory bullet I've used in my 270 win is Winchester double x pointed soft point. I've recovered a couple bullets from deer that were quartered towards me and away from me and the weight retention was around 80% with a beautiful mushroom. Regardless of the bullet or caliber, the key is a well-placed shot.
@kweeks10045
@kweeks10045 10 ай бұрын
Barnes TTSX, Sierra Gameking BTSP, Nosler Accubond and an honorable mention to Norma ORYX. A lot of people look at the Sierra as being something grandpa used but not applicable today. While they may not be as aerodynamic as many newer bullets, they still hold their own. Not to mention they are known for their great accuracy and consistency. My 7mag has taken elk out to 500 yards with a 160gr Sierra. And the ORYX performs like a Nosler Partition but with the accuracy of the Sierra.
@doghousedon1
@doghousedon1 Жыл бұрын
The Partition was always my go to bullet. But I've not been able to find enough of them of late to sneeze at and have started working with the copper bullets. I got hooked. If you really want a fun hunt with a muzzleloader, get a double barrel shotgun and go pheasant hunting. That is the muzzleloader hunt most guys look for but don't know exists. Your dog will have fun too. Thanks for the vid.
@b01tact10n
@b01tact10n Жыл бұрын
I been loading Nosler Partition 180s for my 30'06. I got a good moose load! I take headshots from 25 to 50 yards to save the Rib meat. Rib meat is very priceless!
@charlesadams7862
@charlesadams7862 Жыл бұрын
Hornady's Interlock seems to do fine for me in my 30-06. And the 170 corlokt in my 30 wcf.
@bigjimmy6690
@bigjimmy6690 7 ай бұрын
I also like the Barnes bullets. I've been using them for years since before the TTSX and have had excellent results in .223, 6.5 Grendel, and 308. I was sort of caught with my pants down while hog hunting in South Texas. A huge Aoudad appeared out of nowhere and I was using a 6.5 Grendel with tiny 100-grain Barnes TTSX bullets running about 2,800 FPS instead of my preferred 308. I took a quartering away shot at about 150 yards and that huge beast only went about 75 yards. It ended up being a 31-inch ram that weighed over 300 pounds. Great performance for what I would consider being undergunned.
@paulharding1621
@paulharding1621 Жыл бұрын
The .303 British went from a 215 grain bullet to 154 grain as propellant changed and to gain better efficiency. Your comment on preparing for the hunting season made me smile since here in the UK🇬🇧 we have some deer species or gender in season all year round.
@Robert-fs1pb
@Robert-fs1pb 7 ай бұрын
The 303 kicks like a damn mule.
@jussi6905
@jussi6905 Жыл бұрын
Here in north europe i hunt with copper bullets, Lapua Naturalis and Sako Blade. No led to food. All the calibers 6,5-9,3 that i use they work as they are planned to work
@barrydismukes7601
@barrydismukes7601 24 күн бұрын
The nosler accubound has done real well in my 3006! I hunt everything with it and hand load mine for my tight groups
@dpbierman2586
@dpbierman2586 Ай бұрын
Ron Love the channel and content! I was never a believer in copper bullets until I hunted a few different species of animals here in Africa with Barnes TSX and TTSX in my Tikka 308. What stood out to me right away is the penetration and good blood trails on almost all of the shots. So for most of my hunting ons larger game I will choose Barnes... and something softer and cheaper for Varminting ect. Regards Dave
@lorenzotelleria1858
@lorenzotelleria1858 Жыл бұрын
What about a full episode on bullets!!! I learn so much from you Mr Spomer, I really respect your knowledge and honesty!
@galenhisler396
@galenhisler396 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm 55 and I love flintlocks nothing against those who hunt in lines
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
Since I've begun making my own gun powder I've been considering the purchase of a good flintlock or one of those kits to make my own caps.
@stephenembrey883
@stephenembrey883 Жыл бұрын
I haven't figured this out but I've been paying attention to your writings and sports afield magazines and all that long before Internet and you're still going, you're not much older than me at all but man everything you say is spot on. I do not proclaim to be an expert politician because I have no paperwork to prove it. But I can quote virtually Every caliber with every powder, with every bullet weight and the drop of each one of every range, and you have been in the forefront of all my studies though I have taken them to a far deeper level. I love watching your videos because your videos are probably the only ones on the Internet that are as close to 100% accurate as can possibly be done. I speak this from over a half a century of continuing studies. It is obvious that you and I are of the same mindset but I am more focused on shooting and not talking about it as I am very thankful that there is someone like you to talk about it. Hats off to you my friend you are totally correct about 80% of the time.
@terryogden3339
@terryogden3339 Ай бұрын
My favorite bullet for White tail and mule deer is the Remington core lock. I've had more DRTs with core locks than any other bullet. Never had anything go more than 30yrd. Very fond of Nosler Accubonds and partitions. Barnes TSX when Elk sized game is involved. But Core locks of appropriate weight have never left me disappointed.
@wickertwm
@wickertwm Жыл бұрын
The last time I took my Steyr SSG 04 I shot 6 shots into the same hole. Totally amazed for a .308 Win.
@scottweston4317
@scottweston4317 Ай бұрын
Hi Ron! I live and hunt in Pennsylvania USA and we have 2 seperate black powder seasons- early muzzle load in October allows any bp rifle including modern scoped in-lines. And late season primitive flintlock only in late December/January.
@miketan472
@miketan472 Жыл бұрын
What I’ve come to appreciate as my 3 choices for hunting bullets. No.1 Noslet Partition No.2 Barnes TSX or TTSX No.3 Hornady Interlock
@shaynelhta
@shaynelhta Жыл бұрын
Good tips on moose hunting. One small thing from my experience, ok two tips: keep the meat on the bone for as long as possible. If you got swamps and other nasty places to trek through you want the meat protected. Leaving the hide on quarters helps immensely-of course this is only if its an option. Second, havalon and a small very sharp axe are excellent options. The work with moose really only starts when the animal is on the ground.
@jk-kr8jt
@jk-kr8jt Жыл бұрын
I have packed a few of those swamp donkeys. You are spot on with, the work starts once the moose is down. But oh so worth it.
@nathancovington544
@nathancovington544 Жыл бұрын
You’re behind Ron. Our first archery season is already closed here in ca. Waiting on rifle opener on the second Saturday of this month. Will be using the 156g Hammer hunters again this year.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
That's right. I forgot you guys like to hunt in the heat! I've taken a couple of CA blacktails and feral hogs and sweated every time. Hope you get one!
@nathancovington544
@nathancovington544 Жыл бұрын
Can’t say we like it but we don’t have much choice. Share the blacktail hunts with us sometime. Thanks Ron. Oh and don’t for get to share the results of your hammers on game. And take lots of pics. We like visuals.
@howardmcadams3852
@howardmcadams3852 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir for Sharing this Information
@georgeclark6629
@georgeclark6629 Жыл бұрын
The guy knows his stuff!
@AlhanJ
@AlhanJ Жыл бұрын
I use 150g 308 Win and I got anything as light as fallow deer and heavier deer like Sambar and elks and oh boy let me tell you that they dropped on spots. If you know where to put your shot on than you don’t need any bigger caliber.
@_cal_techie
@_cal_techie Жыл бұрын
The .308 is such a workhorse with allow such a wide variety of loads, bullets, and powders that it is my choice.
@MrTacklebury
@MrTacklebury Жыл бұрын
Nosler Accubond LR & Hornady ELD-X and Sub-X for subsonics.
@1bobharvey
@1bobharvey Жыл бұрын
I've been using nothing but Barnes since 08 and they have treated me well in what would be considered small for use calibers. I need to play with the Hornady cx line some as they claim theirs fly better but who knows.
@b01tact10n
@b01tact10n Жыл бұрын
I've always stuck with Nosler Partition, hasn't let me down. Very accurate and does the job for my Moose hunting! As close as I can get for a clean headshot. Very great for taking Alaskan Big Game😁
@joe7114
@joe7114 Жыл бұрын
I highly respect your opinion ,I'll stick with 3.08 3006 ,6.5X55 sweed
@seanwhite304
@seanwhite304 Жыл бұрын
My favorite 3 Bullets are.... 1. Nosler Partition.. 2. Nosler Accubond.. 3. Federal Premium TLR Edge..
@trdscfjc
@trdscfjc Жыл бұрын
Ron, I would really like to hear your thoughts on the 338 calibers as it relates to big N.A. game, the pros and cons of 338 lapua, 338 win mag and 338 rum. I think there's enough to talk about to spend a few minutes to discuss.
@10-4CodyWade
@10-4CodyWade 8 ай бұрын
I'd also like to hear his take on the 338s. Ron is generally a 400 yard or less kind of guy, so I'd say he would be partial to the 338 Win Mag. It has fairly ideal impact velocities from 0-450 yards with 225 grain bullets. The RUM, Lapua, Edge, and 338-378 each have their pros and cons but offer better performance with 250-300 grain bullets, and would be better choices for hunting beyond 500 yards. The 338 Lapua Improved is probably the best overall performer for long range stuff if you don't mind the extra leg work of shooting a non-commercial cartridge. The 338-06 is actually a very good hunting round for 300 yards or less, but never gained much popularity with the 35 Whelen being readily available and having similar performance.
@briansteele1378
@briansteele1378 Жыл бұрын
Terminal Ascent by Federal is my go too
@jefferywilliams7687
@jefferywilliams7687 Жыл бұрын
Nosler Ballistic Tip, Nosler Partition, Hornady DGX. I carry fine steel wool to clean up the tips on a Partition. Never had a Partition Fail. I also like Sift Bullets both A-Frame and Scirocco II, Speer Grand Slam, Norma Oryx, Woodleigh. Hornady SST and Sierra HPBT for varmints. Chose the bullet for the game you are hunting, the conditions you are hunting them in, and most Important, put it in the right place.
@WombatAnnihilator
@WombatAnnihilator Жыл бұрын
I began hunting with copper bullets - never tried anything else. I think I’ll stick with it, too.
@JoeZelensky
@JoeZelensky Жыл бұрын
308 vs 6.5C for deer. Depends on the distance. If under 300 yards either works. If cost is a factor then 308. If you can spend a little more for ammo 6.5C.
@Mav8887.
@Mav8887. 9 ай бұрын
Sierra, Barnes, Speer & Nosler 🔥
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 Жыл бұрын
I may try Barnes this year for the first time in rifles. My Tikka 7mm-08 is getting .75 with the TTSX in 120 grain. But I love ballistic tips.
@MrProngytung
@MrProngytung 4 ай бұрын
I'm fast becoming a fan of the 120 gr TTSX in the 7mm-08 myself.
@adamelam6385
@adamelam6385 4 ай бұрын
@@MrProngytung my first season with them was a success. Shot 3 deer and two only made it 15 feet.
@The_Judge300
@The_Judge300 Жыл бұрын
Barnes TTSX bullets are by far my favourites. For all kinds of cartridges and animals.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 Жыл бұрын
yes. turns .223 into an absolute hammer for hogs here in Florida.
@The_Judge300
@The_Judge300 Жыл бұрын
@@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 It is just amazing how the ttsx bullet has transformed the tiny 223 into a proper hunting cartridge. Before the 223 was to stretch it to use it on deer as well, but with the ttsx bullet, the 223 is perfectly fine to use on deer.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Judge300 agree 100%.
@sakrifistthstdamnroe3236
@sakrifistthstdamnroe3236 Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite bullets is a Sierra pro hunter
@sandramoskwa
@sandramoskwa Жыл бұрын
I have used the Barnes bullets in many calibers since the early 2000’s and have had 1 failure. I shot a doe antelope ( 85 lbs live weight ) with a 416 Rigby shooting a Barnes 350 gr.TX and hit the shoulder and the bullet fragmented. I found copper fragments all the way back in the rear hams and the shank never penetrated thru the animal. The doe actual ran about 75 yards and then cartwheeled end over end like lightning struck it. That doe was running on 3 legs as when I skinned the doe the whole front leg fell off with the hide. I had a crowd of people around camp come to see the antelope shot with a elephant rifle. That is the only Barnes bullet I ever used come apart. Still a MYSTERY !!
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 Жыл бұрын
Guessing from the thumbnail, Hammer Hunter, Barnes TTSX, Nosler Accubond/LR.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
You're good, Elliot!
@DaveL9170
@DaveL9170 Жыл бұрын
The Accubond is the ultimate hunting projectile. Darned thing puts animals down QUICKLY!!!!
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 Жыл бұрын
@@DaveL9170 I don’t know about ultimate. We have a plethora of excellent bullets nowadays. The accubond is definitely a great bullet though.
@davidbrock1565
@davidbrock1565 Жыл бұрын
You guessed well!!
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Actually, the Accubond is just that, not the Long Range version. Those all have gray tips.
@rogerramjet7567
@rogerramjet7567 Жыл бұрын
I am toying with the idea of trying the hammer.30 and .338. I would like to see accuracy and chronograph numbers.
@m444ss
@m444ss Ай бұрын
I just bought some Hornady CX (Outfitter & Superformance) and Barnes LRX (VOR-TX) ammo. Gonna clean my X-Bolt barrel and see if it likes one better than the others.
@danielcurtis1434
@danielcurtis1434 Жыл бұрын
I think he should add the Lehigh defense extreme penetrator to that list. It uses flute to redistribute fluid outward. It penetrates better than a FMJ but more tissue damage than expanding bullets since no energy is waisted expanding the bullet instead of penetration with massive wounds. Also fluid transfer monolithic (FTM) as these bullets are known are not velocity based. So these bullets work anywhere from 750 fps all the way up to over 5,000 or more!!! These are the most versatile bullets you can get period!!!
@stormiewutzke4190
@stormiewutzke4190 Жыл бұрын
The 7mm-08 is just perfect for deer. I don't know why I hate the .308 and love the little 7 but it's just better. For deer ranges it does have the best numbers.
@338federalshooter8
@338federalshooter8 Жыл бұрын
I love my 308s but there is something special about that 7. Everyone else must think so too because they are fairly hard to find now in a better rifle.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
7mm-08 is a superior cartridge to .308 Win., though not dramatically different. Biggest disadvantage to 7mm-08 is that nobody makes a factory target load for it, which is really where the 7mm can shine.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
Even though the .308 is a wonderful caliber I also don't really care for it. I used to have one and loaded a lot of ammo for it. A .308 has a perfect combination of elements that make it a very accurate cartridge. The 7mm-08 is very nice. That .284 bullet really shines. I do not have a 7mm-08 but I do have a 7mm mauser and a .275 Rigby which are almost identical in ballistics to the 7mm-08. Even though I have taken elk with other caliber firearms I took the two largest ever with the 7mm mauser and 140 grain bullets. To really get the best from almost any rifle it's good to handload.
@LRRPFco52
@LRRPFco52 Жыл бұрын
@@russellkeeling4387 7mm-08 is what the T65/7.62x51 should have been. 139gr service rifle load, 154-162gr Sniper/DM/LMG load. Throat life is very similar to 7.62 NATO, as 7mm-08 isn't overbore. Great little cartridge.
@dimebag6982
@dimebag6982 Жыл бұрын
Honestly this will be an unpopular opinion. But the the sierra gameking has been an absolutely amazing bullet in my hunting career. You just have to make sure you shoot the right weight of bullet for the game you are shooting. Sometimes the bullet exits the animal, other times the jacket and core separate, and other times the jacket and core hold together. But everytime I have pulled the trigger with a gameking down the pipe, I have found my animal. What more can an ethical hunter ask for?
@gsnicholas8522
@gsnicholas8522 Жыл бұрын
Gamekings and prohunters are great hunting bullets. They’re not fancy. They just work.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Know your bullet and where to put it.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
Sierra has been making high quality bullets for many years. The .358 cal. Sierra Gameking in my .35 Whelen is the best looking bullet I have ever loaded and it sure does the job. 225 grains at a muzzle of 2816 fps produces just under 4000 pound feet of energy and the elk have trouble digesting it. That big bore creates a nice wound channel and the sweet spot velocity keeps capillary damage low if I can avoid hitting big bones.
@albertlemont5471
@albertlemont5471 Жыл бұрын
Last week a friend and I went on a moose hunt in Maine. We both have 300win mag. He was using 200gn Barnes vortex. I was using my 180gn interloc reloads. I shot a 675# bull one shot in the chest 165 yards. He shot a 475# bull at 40 yards it took 4 shots with a final spine shot to anchor it.
@albertlemont5471
@albertlemont5471 Жыл бұрын
I suspect the Barnes were not expanding.
@CARLPHILLY
@CARLPHILLY Жыл бұрын
Between the 6.5 Creedmoor and the 308 Winchester, that’s a no-brainer. The 308 Winchester is light years ahead of the 6.5 need more. My bullet selection, Nosler, partition, combined technology, or Nosler, ballistic silvertip, Nosler ballistic tip, or Nosler accubond in that order. My preferred caliber 270 win. 308 win. 7mm Rem mag. 3006 Springfield.
@hedgeapplehomestead2816
@hedgeapplehomestead2816 Жыл бұрын
Try a small chest freezer with a small generator instead of coolers
@mikecampell
@mikecampell 24 күн бұрын
Stick with Nosler or Hornaday traditional bullets, I am forced to use Nonlead in Calif. and hate them. When I go out of state, I'm able to use good bullets
@hotfarts6731
@hotfarts6731 Жыл бұрын
Love the Hammer Hunters. Amazing velocity and penetration.
@HondaRiderX17
@HondaRiderX17 Жыл бұрын
My load for this year is 136gr Shock hammer in my 7mm-08. They shoot pretty accurate but I'm excited to see how they work on game.
@hotfarts6731
@hotfarts6731 Жыл бұрын
@@HondaRiderX17 it performs very well. It loves velocity so load it as hot and safe as possible. Good luck!
@HondaRiderX17
@HondaRiderX17 Жыл бұрын
@@hotfarts6731 yeah I got them going about 2850 with varget.
@hotfarts6731
@hotfarts6731 Жыл бұрын
@@HondaRiderX17 good speed! I love Varget. Works great in my .308 and for lighter bullets on the 6.5 Creed.
@user-me3er7lm1o
@user-me3er7lm1o 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the Hammer bullet. If giving your money to a company owned by a man with perhaps questionable hunting ethics bothers you, then you may want to do a little research into the owner. Just putting it out there for what it’s worth.
@merkel2750
@merkel2750 Жыл бұрын
Another tip for hunting in bear country (especially grizzly) keep your wits about you, grizzlies can learn gunshots=carcass and they can be incredibly quiet for their size, it’s the last thing you want to find standing behind you when your rifle isn’t in your hands.
@user-eg8hb8xt3j
@user-eg8hb8xt3j Жыл бұрын
Federal terminal ascent , Barns ttsx , nosler accubond . I’d like to try the hammer bullets
@johac7637
@johac7637 Жыл бұрын
Moose hunting, BC, Prophet River, Musqwa River, in a small river boat, see elk too. Once in a lifetime hunt.
@donwhigham2244
@donwhigham2244 Жыл бұрын
The federal fusion is a excellent hunting ammunition
@johngoodman9380
@johngoodman9380 Жыл бұрын
The last 5 deer I shot with a .308 shouted out "Pizzas" as they collapsed. No disrespect to Ron, but I'll take the deer's word for it!
@christopheredenton5676
@christopheredenton5676 Жыл бұрын
Nosler Partition in any Caliber including the 257 Roberts in either 100 0r 115 gr.
@sylviajones3355
@sylviajones3355 Жыл бұрын
Berger 168 gr. 30-06. That's all I need.
@scottt.miller8151
@scottt.miller8151 Жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to try the Hammers in my 7RM.
@scbane
@scbane Жыл бұрын
$1.60/projectile, last I checked.
@HondaRiderX17
@HondaRiderX17 Жыл бұрын
@@scbane yeah that's hard to swallow but when you can't find accubons or partitions what do you do.
@anthonysullivan4202
@anthonysullivan4202 Жыл бұрын
i agree! ive shot over 1500 red deer with 7mm08 and 120gr ttsx and thats jjust the 7m08....
@calangel
@calangel Жыл бұрын
Ron, when are you gonna give the Badlands Precision bullets a shake? I think you'll more than like them!
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
I'll have to look into whether solid copper bullets can be cast.
@roperbrad93
@roperbrad93 Жыл бұрын
Love the content please do a video dedicated to the 264 win mag
@kennethbriody8396
@kennethbriody8396 Жыл бұрын
Please
@kennethbriody8396
@kennethbriody8396 Жыл бұрын
Its been my go to hunting cal.for 35 yrs out of 22 elk only had to do one follow up shot and it wasn't the bullets fault ,as I pull the trigger my body stepped up on the bumper of the truck I was using for a rest,the bullet tapped a pine tree at about 150 yds the elk was around 250yds and the bullet key holed into the elk that was the only follow up shot
@The_Judge300
@The_Judge300 Жыл бұрын
Or the 6.5-06 🙂
@christopherpearson3511
@christopherpearson3511 Жыл бұрын
I've also deer hunted for 50 years. And, back in the 80s, Federal made a 165 grain high shock bullet in 30-06. They always exited, and caused tremendous hydrostatic shock. Most deer didn't take another step. Then, bullets started to get more specialized...and, more expensive..so, after trying several brands, I found that the Nosler Accubond and Partition NEVER failed me. They go down right there. I make my decision on which one to use, depending on the distance I'll be shooting. For shotguns, the Barnes copper solid is hard to beat. Now, and correct me if I'm wrong, when using a monolithic copper bullet, you need to drop down in bullet weight so as to help with expansion. It's hard to change to a Barnes TTSX, though, when what your already using is dropping them in their tracks. 1 shot...night night. I detest watching an animal suffer because a hunter is irresponsible. And, have gotten quite angry at others who just throw lead, and wound an animal. Now, those Noslers seem to help when shooters don't make that great of a shot. Anyway, that's my two cents...lol. Hunting seasons around the corner...good luck to everyone...be responsible...clean quick kills.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Pretty good analysis, Chris, but dropping down in weight with TTSX, etc. bullets isn't necessary to improve expansion. Such bullets have been filmed emerging from apples and even cherry tomatoes fully expanded. It's the liquid entering the hollow cavity in the nose on impact that drives expansion. Hydraulics. Of course, cavity volume must be balanced with copper thickness and impact velocity, so there is a velocity level at which expansion is minimal (generally around 1,800 fps, though some bullets are engineered to open properly at speeds as slow as 1,400 fps, if I remember correctly. What I've found is that stepping down in weight a category or two (from traditional cup/core lead bullets) results in more MV and equal or better penetration because the coppers retain 90 to 100% weight.
@gilbertb8078
@gilbertb8078 Жыл бұрын
Nosler Partition,Barnes X.Speer Boat tail.
@KB_86
@KB_86 Жыл бұрын
I’m team Barnes ttsx 100%. Everything Iv ever shot with that bullet end’s up with a pinky size entrance wound and a half dollar sized exit wound. They just work. Every single time.
@zeus5793
@zeus5793 Жыл бұрын
Ron, What is the barrel length you desire and use with most of your rifles?
@eddiek4978
@eddiek4978 Жыл бұрын
25-06 ttsx 100 gr bullet is like the finger of God! On most deer sized game animals
@jimscallen6452
@jimscallen6452 Жыл бұрын
It all comes down to personal choice
@davidlothman2786
@davidlothman2786 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the 8,5x55Blaser? It’s A really efficient hunting cartridge :)
@terrymoulder
@terrymoulder Жыл бұрын
308! you just made Richard Mann, a Happy Mann.
@460style
@460style Жыл бұрын
Ron Question for you.. I Wana see you do a hand gun Hunt... and which caliber will you use... 500 Mag, 460xvr Mag or a Linebaugh caliber...
@dennisshemory4859
@dennisshemory4859 Жыл бұрын
Ron I got one for you. What the best bullets for a 357mag for white tail hunting. 6 inch revolver not a rifle.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 Жыл бұрын
I love Nosler bullets. I think they went out of business tho. I am unable to find ANY for sale. ANYWHERE. I think Speer, and Swift went out of business too. Nothing but crickets looking for them.
@saltyOG
@saltyOG 8 ай бұрын
I know a man that has took every big game animal in the with a scout rifle in .308 decades ago. Shot placement trumps ALL!
@JohnHavern-xx2jm
@JohnHavern-xx2jm 3 ай бұрын
Ron, I've been hunting 62 years and like you love using different calibers. I don't reload and my wallet and I benefit greatly from information in your podcast. I'm hunting with a patriot 7m 08 and typically in Pennsylvania don't get shots past 100 to 150 yards. What copper bullet do you suggest and what powder, if I can find a knowledgeable reloader.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 ай бұрын
Barnes or Hammer bullets have worked well for me.
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 Жыл бұрын
I've also switched exclusively to copper bullets for hunting. There's really no disadvantage as long as you're pushing them at high velocity. I've discovered at least for deer that grain weight and sectional density don't matter. My pet deer combos are 6.5creed/127 lrx, 7mm-08 120 ttsx, 308win/130 ttsx, 7mm rm/120 ttsx, and 300wm/150ttsx. I kind of want to try the 130 ttsx in my 300wm as well. I like shoulder shots as they will always go through and break both shoulders in my experience. I feel like this is the best way to use coppers, although they work fine behind the shoulder as well, just not as quick a kill as lead in that scenario. When I shot lead bullets, I shot Nosler exclusively. Never had a failure with any of them. I had one jacket separation on a 140 ballistic tip from a 7mm mag at 3100 fps, but tge animal fell dead where it stood. Not sure what happened, but I shot a 300 plus pound boar through both shoulders with the same load and it exited and anchored that beast. I know they work, it just changed my thinking when I saw all the x-rays of ground game meat with lead fragments all throughout them. Like you wouldn't drink water you knew had lead in it right?
@scbane
@scbane Жыл бұрын
You like shoulder shots? So, rather than waste a bit of rib meat, you prefer bloodshot/wasted meat on the order of 15-20% of the total meat weight.
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 Жыл бұрын
@@scbane If you shoot low in the shoulder maybe. I shoot the point of the blade (high shoulder), and there's really not much meat there. It also usually breaks the spine and gives bang flop deaths. Occasionally I do lose a little meat, but I feel the instant death and lack of tracking are worth it as I hunt a pretty small piece of property. Also, the bullets I use don't come apart like a lead one does and the meat damage isn't usually as bad as you'd expect.
@bobgordon1754
@bobgordon1754 Жыл бұрын
I've used the 130 grain TTSX in a .30/06 at top end and the results are impressive.
@robertmajors1737
@robertmajors1737 Жыл бұрын
@@bobgordon1754 I'm going to try it eventually in my 300wm. I've seen a video on here of a guy firing it from a 30-378 weatherby into 3 or 4 feet of wet newspaper with 2x4's on each end and it didn't come apart from that abuse, so I'm pretty sure it'll be okay. I have a bunch of other new loads to try out this season, so it may get pushed to next year, but I'm going to try it.
@bobgordon1754
@bobgordon1754 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmajors1737 I've tested it in water and on game. In water it expands to more than double the caliber. I shot a very large whitetail doe through the ribs. I was afraid even with a rib shot I might ruin some meat but only damaged the ribs. It sucked most of the lungs out the exit hole which was about the size of a silver dollar. I would not be afraid to use that bullet on anything.
@pakieffer49
@pakieffer49 Жыл бұрын
The Nosler copper green tip E bullet is sweet!
@jeff9062
@jeff9062 Жыл бұрын
Keep that velocity above 2200fps.
@yooper7753
@yooper7753 Жыл бұрын
I chose the Nosler Partition bullet decades ago. I have no reason to purchase non-lead bullets, since I dont live in California. I've been smart enough to stockpile my primers, powder, bullets and brass, so I don't have to pay today's prices. 243 Winchester 100 grain, 260 Remington 140 grain, 7mm-08 Remington 140 grain, 308 Winchester 150 grain, 338 Federal 200 grain and 358 Winchester 200 grain
@jacktrout5807
@jacktrout5807 Жыл бұрын
Nosler ballistic tip. Barnes x. Swift A-frame?
@alexandre171997
@alexandre171997 Жыл бұрын
You should talk about the terminal acsent by federal prenium
@eugenegress5896
@eugenegress5896 10 ай бұрын
REMINGTON CORE LOKT: They use to be Available for Reloaders, Not anymore, Not for along Time. Apparently, they are the Toughest cup and Core Bullet. Since Remington doesn't have a Patent on them, and Refuse to make Available, How about a Major Bullet Mfg, Make an Exact spec Bullet; Match it exact.
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