Welcome to the conversation! I read all your comments and respond as I'm able. Leaving a comment is the best way to share your experience as well as ask questions. If I can't answer them here, I often will address questions and comments in future videos. I invite you to engage in the conversation and also to keep your comments constructive and respectful. We are all focused on human safety and wildlife conservation. Respectful and informed communication is our best hope of accomplishing that goal. Take care everyone! Thanks for engaging!
@randalkihei92618 ай бұрын
@HomeInWildSpaces the best defense against man or beast is a firearm. If you love being in the outdoors exploring, fishing, hiking, or even hunting you need to be proficient in the use and maintenance of your firearms. Training with a firearm may cost you thousands of dollars but it could save your life against man or beast. You can choose to carry bear spray but I choose to carry a firearm.
@davesmith74327 ай бұрын
Political terrorists huh? Unsub leftist scumbag.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
@davesmith7432, I'm accustomed to these types of responses, but what is remarkable to me is how often they are unjustified. If you pay attention to photos I use to discuss the problem with political terrorists misusing bear spray, you will note that the photos demonstrate misuse by both the "right" and the "left". I appreciate your passion, but I think it's led you to a demonstrably false conclusion-as passions typically do. I'm simply raising awareness about misuse. I do not see that as political. Best wishes!
@dwaynediesel60797 ай бұрын
your commentary is negligent and you might be liable!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
@@dwaynediesel6079 If you have an example, I welcome the feedback. But what is presented here is the most complete and balanced examination of this topic give the data currently available.
@ThePimpedOutPlatypus4 ай бұрын
In the Infantry we have a concept called 'Defense In Depth' or a layered defense. The take away here is the same: Have multiple defensive points. When I am in Wyoming, I have Bear Spray as my preferred defense, (because I don't want to kill a bear unless it tries to kill me first,) my 10mm pistol as my second, and my Bowie knife as my third line of defense. That's just for hiking. If hunting one of us carries a rifle and the other carries a shotgun with slugs, in addition to spray, a pistol and a blade. That could all fail potentially, but it allows us to punch well above our weight in Griz Country.
@vintagecapgunsatyourmomshouse2 ай бұрын
Yep to all of this
@AniwayasSong2 ай бұрын
*^THIS!^*
@cyberpunksoldier5047Ай бұрын
I live this, always carry a pepper spray because you dont want to kill something or someone just because it presents a threat, if it presents a threat depending on the level maybe harassingly then deploy, if the first line of defense fails and threat increases to imminent bodily harm to death.....then i use my handgun, if second layer of defense fails because as you all know adrenaline is a hell of a thing and something or someone in it can keep going then my trusty boker knife or any high quality knife as a third is good. But yes this concept is good!
@JamesWilliams-en3os8 ай бұрын
Excellent discussion, I couldn’t agree more. Like you, I’ve been using firearms for decades, so I carry one in bear country. But I also carry bear spray, and have done so since the mid-80’s. They are NOT mutually exclusive. Thanks for doing the research and making the video.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Love your comment! I hope to help other people come to the same realization. Tools are tools. Culture wars regarding which is "best" aren't helpful. They have their appropriate function, and in the right hands they can be very effective. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! I hope you'll consider sharing the video and help get the message out. Cheers!
@TzeentchLordofChange8 ай бұрын
I live in alaska and like you i carry both. the spray is for bears, the 10mm is for the aggro methheads
@remaguire7 ай бұрын
I have several firearms, but I definitely would not reject bear spray as a deterrent. I want all the tools I can get to protect myself in bear country.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Great comment! Your best tool is your brain. And anyone who knows anything about bear safety would never reject an effective tool and will make proficiency a priority.
@patriotfamily83458 ай бұрын
When my wife and I hiked through Yellowstone backcountry we had bear spray AND a gun. Interestingly enough even though we saw a grizzly on the trip off in the distance it was much less of a threat to us versus a giant herd of bison that almost surrounded us, as they wanted to graze the grass field we were in. We got the bear spray and gun ready as they drew closer but were able to slowly sneak out of a small gap in the herd. It was good to know we had layers of defense but even then things could have gone bad fast and probably not in our favor.
@Gr8tBlueHeron8 ай бұрын
I've encountered multiple grizzlies over the years, and I'm far more concerned when in proximity to a moose than a bear.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
You are so right. The social fear of bears has eclipsed respect and the justified trepidation of other animals often considered "cute". I love a good moose or bison encounter, but I never loose sight of the fact that both can be temperamental and dangerous. Thanks for sharing your experience and your insights!
@bobinmontana7778 ай бұрын
Of course firearms are “not allowed” in Yellowstone Park. Guess they are I stand corrected just not in government buildings. However, be prepared for a costly ordeal and maybe jail time if you shoot a grizzly in the park, they’ll try to bury you with a minimum $50,000.00 fine and jail.
@avelinaosborne327 ай бұрын
@@bobinmontana777 like im going there totally defenceless except for the protection of a ranger that might be on lunch break or in a meeting . Youll recognise me as the guy with the sawed off bazooka.
@patriotfamily83457 ай бұрын
@@bobinmontana777 sure they are, just not inside gov buildings
@mikereinhardt48078 ай бұрын
Great video! Now my two cents. I spent 7 years on two US Army tours in Alaska. On my first tour everyone was recommending the 44mag revolver as "Bear medicine!". I carried one for several months until a gentleman pointed out that a 30-30 has more stopping power then that 44mag. He had a lot more experience than I hunting dangerous game and what he said made sense. I got and started carrying an Itica 37 12ga police with extended magazine after that, loaded with slugs. The Eskimo scouts we worked with and lived basically among them said to put your hands up and back away quitly saying "I come in peace brother bear!", never wanted to try that technique out myself. Now remember in that time bear spray was not a thing, if it was I would for sure carry it with my 12ga. Now my personal up close encounter with a large bear was in the small town we lived in a fairly large brown bear wandered onto the highway leading out of Anchorage and was hit by no less than two cars and one pickup, demolishing all three. Serviving that he lay bleeding and still alive until a state trooper with cahunas the size of basketballs calmly walked up to him and placing his 357 revolver bihind the bears ear dispatched it, they are unbelievably strong. I personallgy clocked one doing 35kts through alders taller than a man like they were nothing. You can't outrun them. I remember a reporter interviewing a man who had been badly malled abd asking "You had a gun, why didn't you shot him?" Where apon the gentleman said " I tried to but he ate my gun!" Bottom line carry both spray and a gun capable of doing what needs to be done and practice with them till it becomes second nature. Be safe out there!...
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for sharing your own experience. I encountered a grizzly that was hit by a truck once myself. In my case it got up eventually and wandered off into the forest. There are remarkably powerful animals.
@samhouston52178 ай бұрын
I carried the 45/70 stainless short barrel "guide gun" for a few years when out in the bush up there, but found when going to the bathroom I would set it down. An old fella pointed that out and I switched to the 500 S&W. took a painful time to get good with it but once I was good I started carrying that.
@frogglen63508 ай бұрын
I have no plans to ever enter bear territory. But I find this information interesting
@libertyspike88908 ай бұрын
You may not plan to enter bear territory but you never know when a bear might enter your territory. I live in the Piedmont area of NC and although bears are very rare in this part of the state they are not non existent. We are in their migration path and a couple of times a year they are seen in the area. And most people don't even realize it until they see one for themselves or on the local news. If you live in a major city you probably don't have to worry about it, but otherwise you should know that bears are present at least occasionally almost everywhere in North America.
@frogglen63508 ай бұрын
@libertyspike8890 thats interesting. I forgot bears lived in NC
@chrisgodfrey28468 ай бұрын
@@frogglen6350they live in like 48 states lol
@matthewotis35948 ай бұрын
I live in bear country. And it's on the northwest border of NC. I've seen bear in Avery County. Nit as dense as they are an hour away at my house in TN. They're thicker than thieves over here. Thanks Gatlinburg. And bear spray is faulty and what to do when the bear and wind are coming from same direction. Seen too many stories of sorry failure. A hand full of failures. I thought there were only a handful of bear attacks. You're being negligent. Bears are known to eat expended cans to get to left over spray and that they'll roll in spray areas. Hard to stop a bear coming at you 30mph. Sounds like an anti gun commercial.
@looktothefuture847 ай бұрын
I live in the UK, have no plans to visit a zoo soon and we also don't really have guns here... and I still found this interesting 😅
@jasonhurtig63577 ай бұрын
Thank you for the most comprehensive bear safety video I have ever seen. I will be forwarding this off to every one I know for reference. I to was a firm believer it is best to have multiple deterrents when in bear country. For me bear country is my back yard and every where I go out of town. However convincing other people of these facts has been difficult. Continue the amazing work you do and I'll be sure to pass on future information and content you put out.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
You are very kind. This and my other videos are the culmination of more than 20 years of learning about bears and learning how to co-exist with them. During that time, I realized better resources were needed. I'm honored and gladdened that you found my video of value. Thanks for sharing the video. It's viewers like you that will likely have the greatest influence in getting the message out there. I really appreciate your efforts on that front. Take care, and I hope you'll hang around for much more.
@jakesarms89966 ай бұрын
I hear that bear attacks are rare , but then I hear about bear attacks all the time.
@hamhouke2 ай бұрын
It’s a matter of the law of large numbers, the speed and ubiquity of communications, and the old saying, “If it bleeds, it leads.” These are high impact, low frequency events. When they do happen, they get a lot of attention. They are sensational, often grizzly. There were 41,000 deaths by fatal car accidents in the US in 2023, but no one cares on a day to day basis to hear about them. Unless you live in a small town, you probably won’t even hear about one that happened nearby. Since 1784, there have only been 180 fatal bear attacks in all of North America. Of course, if you are number 181, it will be an extremely impactful event, but you are in much, much higher danger driving to work, swimming in your pool, or even owning a dog. It is the rarity and brutality of bear attacks that ensures you are more likely to hear about them.
@jasonbyu75Ай бұрын
In the 70’s there were a little over ~100 grizzlies in the Yellowstone area. Now they are pushing 1100. I just went hiking in the Tetons and didn’t see a single deer or elk, and there was a LOT of ungrazed forage all over. There are plenty of cases in which the hiker could not avoid finding himself near a mom/cub. When you do the math, there might be one bear per square mile. If you are doing a 10 mile hike…..
@AudfileАй бұрын
And all those people were doing nothing out of the ordinary, in fact, doing very ordinary things. None of them were stomping along a bear trail in a suit made of fresh steaks and salmon, looking to take on a bear one on one. Put that one in your pipe, ye ordinary folk.
@user-fu9vj9ix3g8 ай бұрын
By far the best treatment on this subject. I carry both, and with the same mindset as Smith. Spray first if possible. Hand carry spray when in thick country. In a chest rig when not. I keep the cannister rotated for instinctive and quick extraction. Be VERY well drilled with a gun. Practice instinctive shooting on advancing cable targets A friend to run the target is veryhelpful. Many ranges will allow you to do this as long as you demonstrate control of the weapon. Forget about plinking at a bear picture at 30 feet. You might not have time in the real world. If the bear is within 30-50 feet but not charging, you have time to get the spray ready. If it's that close and initiates a charge, then, by the time your'e ready, you''ll be either spraying or shooting at about 15-25 feet. Your results may vary....
@MrPetrvershinin8 ай бұрын
@MrPetrvershinin8 ай бұрын
@@anautisticswede6748 My friend: A) LIFE is banned in SWEDEN!!!!! or .... - this is exactly what the topic with bears is about. Therefore, it is your choice - either to FOLLOW THE LAW against LIFE or not to fulfill it WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO THE WILDERNESS, TO THE VILLAGE WITH THE BEARS.... ... I DO NOT know the laws of SWEDEN, but I believe the ban on weapons and spray ONLY APPLIES to daily CARRYING IN PUBLIC AREAS .... .... in CANADA, where I constantly visit (I'm in the US), pistols and revolvers are also prohibited AND I DO NOT CARRY A BARREL IN MY POCKET, but when I'm in the WILDERNESS - I ALWAYS HAVE A PAIR OF REVOLVERS WITH ME .... - I'm alone I’m flying to hell in the middle of nowhere and I don’t really care what the RULES AND LAWS IN CANADA ON THE TOPIC OF WEAPONS are, - I’m concerned about my safety and no one can PROHIBIT me from this.. INSIDE THE USA I have no problems with weapons - I have all the permits for this ( I’m almost 76 years old and I haven’t killed anyone and never shot at people like me..., - at people..) .... ....B) if in SWEDEN THERE ARE SUCH STUPID LAWS THAT IT IS impossible to ensure YOUR SAFETY IN THE WILDERNESS, then 1) you need to demand the CANCELLATION of this absurdity 2) or make a law that - when you go somewhere IN THE WILDERNESS PLACES you must have PROTECTION FROM STATE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!
@MrPetrvershinin8 ай бұрын
@@anautisticswede6748 "potential PRISON sentence..." : I would rather BE IN PRISON than BE EATEN BY AN Beast OR MAILED BY IT... ... In addition, ALTHOUGH I am an American and don’t know what SOUTH SWEDEN is (although the last time I was in MALMÖ was in July of this year, and the first time I visited was in the distant 60s of the last century AND I WAS SURPRISED not by the “good-natured bears of SWEDEN” , and the fact that you GROW WHEAT there...) .... .... SO, we have different bears here - there are GRIZZLYS, THERE ARE BROWN BEARS, AND THERE ARE BLACK BEARS (the latter crawling through garbage containers).... and, ATTENTION!, you need to remember and know ONE thing - this is a beast and it doesn’t matter where it comes from he is FROM SWEDEN OR THE FORESTS OF NORTH CAROLINA... ... Once again - the topic is about how to MAKE YOUR STAY SAFE in the habitats of CARNIVOROUS ANIMALS ... - and what kind of bears are there and what is allowed and prohibited there - THIS IS OUT OF TOPIC.
@raptorkravmaga99778 ай бұрын
@@MrPetrvershinin In Greece is prohibited the possession and use of bear spray or any peper spray. Is almost impossible to get a handgun license for self-defense and is against the law to carry a shotgun out of the hunting season, rifles are forbitten and the most important you can't shot a bear.
@MrPetrvershinin8 ай бұрын
@@raptorkravmaga9977 1) how many bears are there in GREECE??? WEAPONS are prohibited in GREECE, even for hunting, FOR SELF-DEFENSE of your HOME.. etc., etc. In this regard, two questions: A) do people kill in GREECE and are they convicted of murder B) and the basic question - IS LIVING IN GREECE ALSO FORBIDDEN???? CONCLUSION: if there are BEARS in GREECE and you go to “visit” them, AND YOU ARE NOT ACCOMPANIED BY THE STATE BUSINESS (the state, which prohibits itself from PROTECTING FROM BEARS AND OTHER ANIMALS, even with SPRAYS), that is, there is no STATE in the FOREST, but there is only you and BEASTS - then LIFE ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE BOTH SPRAY AND WEAPONS....!!!!!!!! LIFE ALLOWS, not some BUSINESS called the STATE. But when you return TO THE TERRITORY OF THE STATE and are afraid that you will be arrested for weapons, etc., JUST DO SO THAT NO ONE SEES HIM, - ----- just like you visited the home of the beast WITHOUT PROTECTION FROM ANYONE - be with state business not a NAIVE CREATURE, but one who understands WHAT IT IS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT IN LIFE....
@SlonesWildernessExpeditions4 ай бұрын
Great video. The comments here show just how entrenched some people are in their beliefs, regardless of the data. In fact, I'd guess most of the comments didn't bother to watch the full video.
@HomeInWildSpaces4 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. Yeah, many of the critical comments are clearly written by people who didn't bother to watch the full video. Not much I can do if people aren't willing to consider the facts. It does make me appreciate those who do spend the time to watch the full video. So thanks! I hope you'll consider watching and sharing the follow up to this video. It's the most important bear safety video I've released yet. Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9ihlJd8zdDUg3k.html
@RunD.Ones1s7 ай бұрын
If you successfully deploy bear spray it may save you, if you successfully deploy a firearm it will save you, it’s harder to get the latter right because it takes more practice and skill, but id rather put my life in my own hands rather than put it up to chance
@jasonbyu75Ай бұрын
A wounded bear will fight for its life. A curious bear will run away.
@RunD.Ones1sАй бұрын
@@jasonbyu75 pain from pepper spray and pain from a bullet are both “wounds” to the bear’s brain so this comment is irrelevant
@jasonbyu75Ай бұрын
@@RunD.Ones1s the world’s foremost statistical database suggests there is a difference in how the bear reacts.
@RunD.Ones1sАй бұрын
@@jasonbyu75 no they don’t, you’re referencing a study that cooked the numbers to deter people from carrying guns, a skilled marksman can take down a bear with greater regularity than a can of pepper spray, that’s an incontrovertible fact, most folks aren’t skilled marksman though
@jasonbyu75Ай бұрын
@@RunD.Ones1s you sound like a teenager.
@amschroed897 ай бұрын
Good video. I have lived most of my life in southeast Alaska and consider myself very competent with firearms. I have had extensive training in the army and in law enforcement. But I think you hit the nail on the head. A firearm requires a much higher degree of proficiency. I personally carry both but the bear spray is hands down the primary. I often carry bear spray in hand in areas of high undergrowth if I can’t avoid that area altogether. Situational awareness is above all the most important out of everything. Thanks for putting this together.
@randybarnett23087 ай бұрын
I carry both too, I also have over 30 years of Filipino Martial Arts experience so besides a gun and bear spray, I carry a Kris - that is a large Filipino knife with a curvy blade. A real serious weapon !
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Sounds like you're using your most important tool-your head. I love reading comments like this. Too many people are so locked up in culture wars that they can't see what is plain to see. Tools have both a proper use, and a skill thresholded needed to operate them effectively. Proficiency with multiple tools provides much improved security. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@ericoverdorff88807 ай бұрын
I'm in Petersburg, where you live?
@amschroed897 ай бұрын
@@ericoverdorff8880 I currently live in Oregon. But spent most of my time in juneau / Haines area. As a kid I was on Admiralty island. Looking to return to Juneau in the future.
@ericoverdorff88807 ай бұрын
@amschroed89 I was born in juneau, moved here in 73. I use to go deer hunting every fall on admiralty, Gambier bay, I use to find it exciting, lots of brownies. Deer heart and king crab every night for the week we spent hunting. My hunting buddy moved south 5,6 years ago and in my mid 60s I get enough excitement just hunting mitkof island and the mainland. Plus the water always sucks in late September when we'd go. Trying to get home in heavy seas in my 21 foot cabin cruiser was sometimes more scary than blowing the deer call on admiralty. I hope you make it back to Southeastern Alaska, those that haven't spent time here don't know just how beautiful, adventurous, and wild it is.
@mark83377 ай бұрын
Wrong question. Clearly, you should have both, and a small, strong, hatchet on your belt. And other things, like a location transponder. Basic medical supplies. Etc.
@danielcurtis14347 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought the Alaska standard at one point was a can of bear spray on your chest and a magnum rifle slung. You train to have the gun on target by the time the can of spray succeeded or failed. Or that’s what I read anyways. But yeah dumb to have a gun without spray!!! The other way around can be necessary in certain unfortunate situations(usually avoid these places)…
@bunk957 ай бұрын
Things marketed as medical supplies.
@michaelcurl91977 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. My thoughts exactly. Carry both. Or have someone w/ you w/ spray while you carry
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
You are going to fight a grizzly with a hatchet. The bear has 5 claws on each foot that are longer than your fingers. These claws are suitable for tearing open fallen logs. You can't be serious?
@mark83375 ай бұрын
@@HughButler-lb6zs You. Just have poor reading comprehension. I talked about bear spray, a firearm, and a small hatchet. Obviously, the hatchet is the last line of defense. A strategically placed hatched blow, at the point, may make the difference in the bear backing off of you once upon you. Hatchets are also great utility tools to have in the wild/wilderness. But I suppose you could just surrender and lay there and let the bear eat you because the bear spray didn’t work or the shots from the firearm missed or didn’t stop it. Go for it Hugh.
@michaelbaldini85547 ай бұрын
I totally agree with your assertion that a gun carrying person should also carry spray.
@backwoodscharlie84837 ай бұрын
Really, and what should you deploy first the spray or the handgun?
@michaelbaldini85547 ай бұрын
@@backwoodscharlie8483 Good question, I think that depends on the situation, especially on a wind swept ridge with 20 mph head wind. I certainly would not want the plume of pepper spray coming back at me and affecting my abilities. Warning shot might be the best way to frighten off a close encounter. I think awareness in the bush and maintaining distance is always the best practice. If the situation was grim, and I realized I was rapidly becoming part of the food chain, I think I would be inclined to pull the pistol.
@silencingthunder4 ай бұрын
@michaelbaldini8554 I'm an avid hunter and outdoorsman who lives in Grizzly country. My answer to this is as follows. I very rarely hunt or travel alone. My primary hunting partners go to is bear spray. Mine is a gun as I am the more proficient shooter. We both generally carry both. However having both basis covered in the event of a negative encounter gives the best chance of a successful outcome.
@timneuhard28497 ай бұрын
Why don't you just simplify it and say have both a large bore rifle or pistol and bear spray and on federal parks in the backcountry a large boar pistol and bear spray because it's better to be judged by 12 then carried by 6
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
I think that's a valid point. "Why not just simplify?" The topic of safety in bear country is so polarizing and controversial to so many people that it takes time to sufficiently discuss the details and explain why every adult should carry and be proficient with bear spray and those who carry a gun should be sufficiently proficient and responsible in handling them. In truth I don't encourage people to carry a firearm. They are very effective tools in the right hands. Neither bear spray or a gun will be effective without sufficient training, practice, and respect for the tool. That is I encourage people need understand their tool(s) and to be responsible and proficient with them. Thanks for watching and for offering your feedback!
@raphaeljack11894 ай бұрын
Good point I think he just feels clever making it as complicated as possible.
@robertofunk6732 ай бұрын
Pistols illegal in all Canada sadly sir,&60%of grizzly seasons are even closed there,Alberta&BC.😢
@johnw6142 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
@@raphaeljack1189 he literally just explained why he didn't simplify. and there are multiple factors to consider for your safety when hiking in grizzly country...which you would understand if you were paying attention
@nikital75418 ай бұрын
What a refreshing and nuanced take. I’m a huge supporter of the 2A, but the lack of basic firearm safety out there is madenning. I always carry both bear spray and a pistol in the woods where I legally can. And the spray is usually my go to item. That’s the beauty of bear spray is that it’s legal everywhere and doesn’t freak folks out. You’ve encouraged me to practice more at the range. In fact I was about to pack a few mags and my woods Glock for the range, but then you just had to run that compilation of negligent discharges… and seeing how’s it’s Sunday…. I guess I’m just gonna wait till middle of the week for that.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
I love reading comments like this! It means that people are conscious and aware of the nuanced factors at play AND that they are dedicated to employing their tools responsibly. Such a mentality will take you far. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your response to the video! Stay safe!
@frisk1518 ай бұрын
Good points, however, don't go in the woods if laws prevent you from possessing a firearm... Or, be discreat and do it anyway... What is the old saying? "I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six"... Some of The Appalachian Trail(s) states don't even have reciprocity for licensed concealed carry people... Here in Texas you can open carry pretty much everywhere in public, though I am personally opposed to tipping off any bad guy that I have a firearm... Yes, bear maulings and killing of humans is per capita quite rare, but they do happen.
@nikogarcia2017 ай бұрын
@@frisk151It might blow away your mind, but people living in country with gun laws are still perfectly capable of living their life without being afraid for their life constantly. Plenty of Canadian hike and return home safely despite the risk of bear encounter. Education save more life than gun.
@dansihvonen82183 ай бұрын
@@nikogarcia201 The gun lobby in the US has succeeded in scaring grown men into thinking they are unsafe unless they carry (at least) a 9mm with a 15 round mag. That urban 2A mindset doesn't work in the wilderness.
@Lightnite123 ай бұрын
EXACTLY!... I'll use BOTH bc wind can screw ur spray. That, and it would be AWESOME if there was a BANG! w. each pull of the nozzle. If I had just 1...it'd be the gun bc bears react to BOTH the bullet AND the BANG! sound of the firearm going off. So in effect it's a 2fer!
@jaredpoort97216 ай бұрын
Joe Rogan does more to instill fear of bears than anyone else. He's the one who told me a bear will hold you down and eat you while alive. Like they would a salmon
@HomeInWildSpaces6 ай бұрын
Yeah. Rogan has followed the path of most of the internet where clicks and ad revenue are the ultimate standards used to define “success”. I define success as providing reliable, factual, actionable information. It doesn’t get as many clicks. But clicks are only valuable to me if I know I’m giving people reliable information. If I lie or misled like others, I could never call myself successful. Misleading people is the opposite of success.
@tristantimothy10042 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces, You wouldn't know success if it were biting your butt. Your clearly a bunny hugger agenda driven know nothing w NO experience whos going to get people killed w your bullshyt. Theres a special place in hell for your kind.
@JoshBanks-zm5ql21 күн бұрын
Amazing. 👏 And that's why your great. @@HomeInWildSpaces
@leoncaw3268 ай бұрын
I don't plan to go into bear country, but thanks for sharing. Sounds like situational awareness, being prepared, and humility about your skillset need to be where everybody starts.
@kairios20098 ай бұрын
As someone that hikes with a firearm, I still recognize that bear spray is far more versatile in stopping situations between any type of animal or person. My firearm is there in the event that things have gone so far south that it’s all I have to rely on. This is an excellent video and still very insightful.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
I love reading comments like yours. There are too many people who are stuck in the "either/or" camp and seem unable to understand that a person who appreciates the value and proper use of each tool is far better off than anyone in the either/or camp. I commend you for recognizing the value of bear spray, and also understanding that being sufficiently versed with a firearm is a strong backup. A balanced and informed traveler is a rare breed. Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your perspective! Hope to hear from you again!
@infogunvault69208 ай бұрын
By all means carry both. But the most important thing is to remember which you should pull first. People have made the mistake of not knowing which to grab first, and wasted precious seconds. Judging how bear spray is only effective at stopping aggressive brown bears 33% of the time according to one of the author's of the study he mentioned, I think it's quite clear which you should grab first. If you don't believe me, watch this video, it has proof and sources. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdyCf7OfqdLSfYk.htmlfeature=shared
@aviationworld8939Ай бұрын
In the past, it felt like I was drowning in information but starving for wisdom when it came to understanding the difference between the gun and bear pepper spray. Thx to this channel and specifically to this video presentation I've found the answers I was looking for. Mike thank you for taking the time and research to make this much needed factual presentation for all of us!!!
@HomeInWildSpacesАй бұрын
My pleasure. I very much had the same struggle and I quickly learned that I could not trust popular information. I needed accurate information. I’m very pleased with the reception of this video, and hope it will help a lot of people navigate all the conflicting and misleading information. Welcome aboard! Much more to come.
@rhuck377 ай бұрын
Thanks, all of your information is very helpful, but I am one who really doesn't want to put a bear down, but my life is a little more important than the bears life. So, I would be interested in knowing how to keep me 100 % free from a deadly encounter in the first place. Thank You for what you are doing!!!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Stay tuned. Tomorrow my video on the Bear Attack ABC's drops. Knowing and following the ABC's is as close as you can get to a guarantee.
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
Don't go into bear country.
@ikipearl2 ай бұрын
There are no guarantees. I'm sure there are people who have died who had both spray and a firearm
@chaliceb58 ай бұрын
An informative, competent and cut-the-bull take on the issue. I served in the military, decades ago and back then was trained on pistols and submachine guns, but never for a situation in which being attacked by an angry bear. I'm sure the immediate release of a high dose of adrenalin when suddenly attacked by a bear of whatever species poses an enormeous obstacle to properly warding off the attack, even if there is still enough distance between you and the animal. To me, being someone with zero!! experience in bear country, the most valuable pieces of info from watching your videos - should the situation of meeting a bear in the wild ever occur - are: never walk alone into bear country, ill-prepared...meaning: forgetting or not being aware that one is moving in bear country, not carrying bear spray, not having it ready to use when needed and not having trained using it beforehand.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your feedback and for sharing your background. What you say is true. Traveling with a competent companion, and being properly prepared with bear spray and a firearm if you are proficient with it and know when to use it is the closest thing to a guarantee you can get in bear country.
@antoniotula2628 ай бұрын
I just saw a SBA video last night where a guy had a 10mm strapped to his chest and bear spray (it might be that same guy he said was attacked twice). He encountered a sow who initially ran with cubs and got them up a tree. She then turned her full attention & rage towards him. He used the spray and appears to have hit correctly, however, the sow charged through the cloud and mauled him pretty badly. The spray overcame the adrenaline & the bear retreated. It was only after a second attack he went for his 10mm only to find it wasn't there (bear ripped through straps holding the holster & gun). He lived but seemed near death from what the video suggested.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Sounds like Todd Orr’s experience verbatim. I’ve spoken with Todd personally and look forward to decoding his experience in a video in the next couple months. Stay tuned!
@steves26647 ай бұрын
So...a bear spray commercial.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Not in a he slightest. You are free to disregard or give yourself license to dismiss the information presented, but you will not find a more informed and balanced video on this topic. Best wishes.
@michaelmcatee2218 ай бұрын
Great video! I think a lot of people who like guns think of OC spray as being a lesser tool for lesser people. Its simply not the case. Yes it does less permanent damage than a gun but thats a good thing. It has proven very effective nonetheless.
@roberth98147 ай бұрын
Johnny Knoxville says that by far the worst self defense tool ever used on him was pepper spray, that included rubber bullets. If it's goo enough to stop Knoxville, it's good enough to stop a bear.
@user-wg8zj7dq1g6 ай бұрын
Why is he carrying without a round in the chamber?
@HomeInWildSpaces6 ай бұрын
I'll discuss in a future video. Stay tuned.
@kenginter61124 ай бұрын
Apparently the four or five built in safeties on the Glock are not enough.
@jaredengberg92952 ай бұрын
@@kenginter6112What?
@StonkeyKong4 күн бұрын
@@jaredengberg9295there are no safeties on glocks is the joke.
@PlainSpeakingMinistries8 ай бұрын
Much better thumbnail! I wasn't sure when I clicked yesterday if this was the video comparing guns to bear spray you talked about making. Much clearer. Thanks!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Thumbnails are not my speciality, but they are important. Glad you were able to find it!
@tdsmith7 ай бұрын
This is the most level-headed and accurate bear-defense discussion on KZfaq!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Thanks! That's what I set out to make. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback. Much more to come.
@ghostshadow90464 ай бұрын
I lived in remote Alaska for 37 years bear spray vs gun #1 if your bear spray fails you will not have time to get your gun and use it against a charging bear a full direct blast into a charging bears face has a roughly 50% chance of making it stop, many people carrying firearms are carrying UNDERPOWERED firearms 10mm is underpowered for alaska brown bears, 357 mag is more powerful than 10mm and is still not enough. I've had bear pressing its nose against the drivers side window of my car, had bears on my deck looking into windows. not everyone should carry a gun the same applies to bear spray and neither should be allowed alone in any area with predators. Your shot spread shows that you need MUCH more practice shooting accurately, you need to vary your training as you may not have the ability to have both hands on your firearm and get into a proper shooting stance especially on uneven ground of a trail.
@blackbeard03237 ай бұрын
Take both!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
*If you are sufficiently proficient and responsible with them.
@basshunter4286 ай бұрын
If you walk up on or are walked up upon by a brown bear cub the mother isn't far behind and you will get your ass tore up. A brown bear (also known as "brown lightning" by experienced guides) can cover 50 yards in 2 seconds when pissed! Bears generally hide prey the have partially consumed in a spot and gaurd it. If you innocently happen upon such a spot you will find out how you taste seasoned with bear spray! Grizzly/Brown bears have zero respect for anything, even each other (there are numerous bear fight videos on YT demonstrating this. A bear that has had a bad experience with humans is way more likely to attack if it feels it or it's territory are threatened! Black bears are way more docile and generally will run if confronted in most situations, but not always! Do not put Grizzly/ Brown bears in the same category as Black bears. They are not comparable! If you know you will be in Grizzly/Brown bear territory carry a shotgun loaded with "bear rated" slugs (at a minimum) and know how to use it! When a Griz/Brown bear attacks (know the difference between a "bluff charge" and an actual charge) drop to your knee (if at all possible) and fire from kneeling position (most misses occur from shooting over a charging bear) as the projectile is in line with the bear and will deliver maximum damage. If you don't want to carry a firearm I suggest you avoid areas where Grizzlies/Brown bears live or take your can of bear spray and good luck. I recently watched a Brown bear that was shot at a distance of a quarter mile (3 hits, gun jammed). It ran (dripping blood) through deep snow at the hunters! The only thing that stopping it from killing the 2 hunters was 4 shots from a .454 Casull handgun at nearly point blank range! Those big bears will kill you if they want to. Period!
@roberth98147 ай бұрын
Reading the comment section to this video is like reading a teenage boy's fantasy about how he'll go Call of Duty on all the baddies once he's fast tracked to Delta after basic training
@nephone7 ай бұрын
Good thing it'll stay a fantasy for most of them. Imagine getting excited about having to shoot an animal in self defense, because you entered it's territory for sightseeing.
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
Could not have said that better myself
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
@@nephone i agree. their fantasizing over any opportunity they can to put a bullet through a bear's face is ridiculous
@brinkee76742 ай бұрын
There is no way I'm going to end up being pepper flavored bear scat
@Gr8tBlueHeron8 ай бұрын
Great video. It's not a competition, but when people say they need a gun for protection in the woods it's an immediate confession that they are strangers to wildlands and very likely suffer from Dunning-Kruger effect with firearms - thinking their half-assed once a year playing at a range makes them weapons experts. In Canada we are not allowed to carry handguns, but I'd much rather a can of bear spray anyway. When hunting, it would be MUCH more preferable close range than a long rifle - I have zero confidence I could hit a charging bear with my scoped .308. As for in camp, a 12-gauge with slugs is the ultimate safety blanket. It is the only thing with close range stopping power for smiting thine ursine enemy if it tries opening your tent like a candy wrapper. I'll still sleep with my bear spray in arm's reach (FYI most have a fluorescent part on trigger so you can always find it!), but in the supremely unlikely event of that horrific night-time predation attack, that shotgun could be your best friend.
@blantant8 ай бұрын
10mm glock in a chest rig is what the debate is about... Not a 308 with a scope. Plenty of accounts or a pissed-off bear ignores the spray and mauls people
@Gr8tBlueHeron8 ай бұрын
@@blantant there are very few places on a bear that will cause instant death, nevermind hitting them during a charge. And even a fatal shot can take up to 20 seconds to register with the brain that PS bear, you're dead! In a charge and maul 20 seconds is a loooong time. To an intent bear, accustomed to pain when fighting off rivals or wolves, they can plow through without seeming to notice the sting of a bullet. Pepper spray acts on the senses - sight is affected dramatically, as is smell. It tends to be noticed and responded to instantly, because loss of senses makes the bear vulnerable, and they know that. If they can't see or smell the inclination - most of the time - is to get away from the danger, not press on. I believe that is a big part of why it is so effective. Nothing is 100% guaranteed.
@user-fu9vj9ix3g8 ай бұрын
@@Gr8tBlueHeronExactly. Spray isn't something bears are used to, so it hits them with a combination of surpise and a very unpleasant assault on the senses. With bears, the very olfactory response that gives them such an edge in smell actually intensifies the effect of the spray. It's bad enough if we get sprayed, but almost all bears just can't stand it, plus they don't know what it is.
@user-fu9vj9ix3g8 ай бұрын
@@blantant Not"plenty" but yes, some bears are like Mike Tyson
@SuperCoopdogg8 ай бұрын
@@blantantdid you not watch the video? A 10mm was barelt mentioned. Thats not what it was about
@freedomisntfree95253 ай бұрын
Very good video. Thank you. I've hunted in grizzly country in AK and BC and thankfully never had a problem, but I share the notion the best way to go is to carry both-the most powerful firearm that you can shoot accurately and bear spray. I've even thought that carrying a compact back-up pistol with hard cast bullets might not be too bad of an idea since in a fair number of reported bear attacks the bear slams into the person and knocks the guy's pistol out of reach and the mauling begins. For me, it would be nice to have both tools or even better- the three tools. Of course, I get it, people want to cut weight that they are carrying or humping long distances in a backpack while hunting or hiking, but all things considered, life saving equipment in bear country should not be discounted.
@danielcurtis14347 ай бұрын
Really high quality video I’m shocked. I gotta go backpacking again sometime soon (been about 12 years). Still you got another subscriber. You seem to punch above your weight if this video is an indication. Your humility is also helpful!!!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
You're very kind. After years of watching problematic resources, I set out to make the best resources I could. Addressing the debate over "which is best" was always going to be critically important. And I'm pleased with the response. I'm hoping, with time, to make a meaningful contribution to the topic of bear safety. Thanks again for watching and commenting! Much more to come.
@danielcurtis14347 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces one thing I learned young and press on every beginner/bear naive: “fear isn’t helpful so keep it under control” This is how I think about it: Your safer not fearing bears but respecting them with the understanding it’s under penalty of death.
@mytmouse577 ай бұрын
All the most experienced people I know say carry both.
@Fallout7773 ай бұрын
I'm from Alaska, do with this information as you will. My wife and I hike in the back country. This is our setup and plan in case of a bear attack. (And yes we've come across one) . First back away from the area, if that doesn't work; we both carry bear mace, both carry knives, she carries a Glock 20 10mm with Buffalo Bore 220gr hard case. I carry a Glock 40 10mm with the same load out. If the bear charges, the wife hit it with the spray while i shoot. Or vice versa. If it gets to one of us on the ground. The one standing go's for a side shot in the butt than the side of the bear staying away from the head(to not accidentally shoot the person being attacked). Once the head turns shoot it. We both have a medical background and carry kits. Hope this helps.
@Gunsmoke-dd1ym7 ай бұрын
There's no way I'm going into the woods with just Bear Spray. Tell Tim Treadwell that.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Timothy Treadwell in fact once used bear spray on a grizzly. It worked so well, that he felt bad about using it and refused to ever use it again. He did not have bear spray when he was killed. You got to be careful. It’s so easy to learn the wrong lessons from bear attacks.
@user-pi6ws8ws5m6 ай бұрын
Timothy Treadwell played with fire and got burnt If my memory serves me right his girlfriend also was killed.
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
@HomeInWildSpaces I wasn't there, and I didn't know Timothy Treadwell. But from the account I read he became over confident in his ability to co-exist with bears. He was attacked by a predatory bear and most of the bear stories have been about defensive bears. I see the same thing here about using guns on bears. There is a lot that can go wrong when using guns.That's why I lean towards bear spray, because it is much simpler to execute. But I also spiritually believe when it's your time you will go, and if not you won't.
@Gunsmoke-dd1ym5 ай бұрын
@@HughButler-lb6zs I'll just stay out of the woods and beat the odds
@georgesimon17603 ай бұрын
Treadwell also got way too close to the bears on a regular basis, if you've ever watched the videos he recorded.
@stevecastro13256 ай бұрын
85% of people also think they are better than average drivers; what does that tell you? Overconfidence can get you and others killed.
@LadyDragonborn7 ай бұрын
Very informative video. We carry both bear spray and a handgun when in the deep wilderness. In 30+ years we have not had a bear encounter. I hope to keep it that way!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and for your feedback! Bears are often not given enough credit for their efforts to avoid conflicts. I can't think of better evidence than 30+ years of wilderness exploration without a single conflict. But I also love that you still prioritize carrying deterrents. Thanks for sharing!
@jeffcodog2 ай бұрын
Thank You!! Thank You!! Thank You!!!! Your video has been the MOST informative of all that I have watched regarding this issue!!!!
@kevinstreeter69437 ай бұрын
My wife and I have hiked Yellowstone and RMNP without bear spray. I now see the chance we took. It was not emphasized enough.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
I definitely would not hike in yellowstone without bear spray, and while it would not be bad to have in while hiking in Rocky Mt NP, there's such a low population of bears within the park that it probably wasn't all that risky. But I'd definitely rather have the option should the need arise. But yeah. I never head into the backcountry in Yellowstone without at least bear spray. Thanks for sharing your experience and what you learned. We all start somewhere, and we all make mistakes. The best we can do is learn from them, and it sounds like you've done that. Thanks for your comment!
@AshleyPage-mq2ke6 ай бұрын
Bear Spray will work on a bear that is not raging out trying to charge you. I would never trust bear spray against a bear trying to eat me. A buddy of mine was killed using bear spray against a bear. You need to have a firearm when being in the woods. Bear spray works really well on people.
@cosmicwarriors2065 ай бұрын
What about a bear spray underbarrel attachment on a pistoI? PistoI with this bear spray built in so it fires the bear spray and round with one trigger pull?
@CplSkiUSMC8 ай бұрын
I am well aware of the effectiveness of bear spray but wind is a constant here in NW Wyoming. Downwind situations are far less likely because your scent is carried ahead of you and a bear will most likely smell you coming and be gone. Upwind encounters are far more likely but will severely hinder your bear spray. For that reason I choose firearms but as you pointed out, anyone who makes that choice must be highly proficient with firearms. You also made the point that your best defense is situational awareness and having said the same thing many times myself, I couldn't possibly agree more. I think one should also recognize and accept the fact that it is a risk to enter bear country and that despite all your precautions, the worst can happen. It's part of the adventure of living in wild places and if you're not adventurous enough to accept that risk, maybe it's best if you get your thrills riding roller coasters or playing video games. I've encountered grizzlies before but I've yet to be charged. I hope it stays that way but I'm prepared if it doesn't.
@vortex1622 ай бұрын
Probably the best option is to take seminars on the topic taught by credible, experienced people. As a none back country tracker I found this video highly informative. Thank you!
@DF4Trap8 ай бұрын
Most comprehensive and valuable information I have seen on the subject. Thank you for sharing.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and offer your feedback! Your engagement makes it all the more likely that internet algorithms with continue to share this video with other people. Thanks for being part of the solution!
@jimmyincredible31417 ай бұрын
Comment section is brilliant...I learned so much about spray being a liberal conspiracy. Can't shake the feeling that if you tell some people you can walk places they'll claim legs are a conspiracy...
@Tom-ahawk7 ай бұрын
Incredible isn't it? Most well-adjusted gen-x commenters 😅
@jimmyincredible31417 ай бұрын
@@Tom-ahawk These snippets of US public discussion always weird me out to no end...I thought KZfaq just threw me down an innocent auto-play rabbit hole about bears...nope, ends up in some absurd conspiracy views...
@fisherdave91925 ай бұрын
There’s certainly lots of dumb comments on this thread coming from people on the right politically. Not everything is a conspiracy. But coming from a right leaning position as as a hunter/outdoors enthusiast, here’s a few thoughts. No matter how we want to describe the outdoors, it’s the wild, unpredictable, and we are the weaker species out there. People will always want to explore nature and we have every right to. And no matter how sophisticated we become, we can never remove the fine line between civilization and the brutality of nature, despite how beautiful it is. On a basic level, someone who’s used firearms their whole life simply knows it works. Firepower is real, measurable, and the only guaranteed method to end an attacker like a bear. That can cause a false sense of security, non-proficient users, chance of missing, wrong caliber, etc. but knowing your life is potentially on the line as an angry bear charges, a firearm is much more inspiring than a can of spray. In my opinion. Particularly for those who’ve never deployed bear spray on a charging bear and seen it work. We’re going on 20 or so years of history, data, and culture vs hundreds of years of deeply engrained firearm usage. So for that person coming from that background, who sees National park services, wildlife conservation experts, etc fully recommend bear spray while simultaneously discouraging gun usage, it’s a bit off putting. Not to mention that firearm usage, even in self defense of a bear, is illegal in many parks like Yellowstone. And in places like Alaska, should you defend yourself from a bear with firearm, you not only will have to skin the bear and return its hide/skull, you’ll also be subject to the scrutiny of a detailed investigation from possibly biased individuals from those said agencies to prove whether you did so in self defense or not (all considering a bear population over 100,000 in Alaska). So the growing narrative from the “experts” on bear safety is guns are bad and bear spray is good, or at least bear spray is a far more effective tool. And some of those agencies (National parks for example) send the message that protecting bear populations is more important than both your 2nd ammendment rights, and maybe even your life. Because ultimately, if you’re limiting what individuals can use to protect themselves to bear spray, whether in a park boundary or not, you’re biasing a desire to protect bears at the expense of others’ rights, and possibly their lives. And let’s be honest. Department heads of the U.S. Forest Service, National Park Service, EPA, etc are more likely to be liberal than conservative. That’s just my opinion, but I’m sure I’m not the only one with that perspective. Many comments in this thread have been derogatory, poorly articulated, and labeling of people that don’t see it their way. That’s very unfortunate and annoying. I don’t defend that. But being anti-gun is more commonly associated with the left, and the agencies pushing bear spray seem to be doing a fabulous job at denigrating the use of firearms as an alternative option. And if you were to survey people who recreate in bear country that only bring bear spray, you’d probably find that the majority of them would lean left in their political worldview. Can two things be true at once and bear spray be more preferable across a wide range of bear encounters than firearms, AND those pushing its usage are more often liberal than conservative? Sure. For me personally, I’m going to bring both in grizzly country. Both are useful tools in different situations. But educating people about bear spray to use bear spray and follow all bear safety guidelines without the mention of firearms is a mistake and a purposeful one, in my opinion. You might see firearm education and usage for emergency responders, fish and game officers, etc. but you’ll rarely see that messaging to the general public. That says a lot to me.
@barrybobert92947 ай бұрын
Dual wield?
@TheWolfhoundSabreАй бұрын
This is by far the most comprehensive video on bear deterrent and has bolstered my confidence in bear spray. Thank you.
@HomeInWildSpacesАй бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@willcrute74778 ай бұрын
One of the most informative videos I have ever seen on any subject
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thank you! It's been many years in the making. Glad you enjoyed it! Much more to come.
@indivisible8857 ай бұрын
Honestly, this wasn't what I expected when I clicked. And I'm glad you have this information, out for the public. I am a firm believer in defense of self, and besides the statistical data, I think your attitude and approach to this conversation, should convey the reality of a situation that a person Might find themselves in. Bullets don't even stop people sometimes, and a grizzly bear is a much more dangerous opponent! I hope I don't ever find myself in a situation where I have to defend myself from a bear, but if I do, I hope I have both options available. I think I'd go to the spray first, and that's hard to admit, especially with my background
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
I love reading comments like yours. So many people are locked into a one or the other club. Bear spray and the right gun are tools. Both have their place, and both have value as bear defense. Those who focus on how and when to use them effectively rather than getting bogged down in a culture war enjoy deep defensive options. But as you've pointed out. We'd all prefer to never have need of either. If you haven't yet watched it, I hope you'll check out my Bear Attack ABCs video. It covers how to almost guarantee that you'll never need either while discussing how and when to use both. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9ihlJd8zdDUg3k.html
@indivisible8857 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces I appreciate that. Also, I appreciate your non biased approach to this particular conversation. We need more content like this. Facts don't care about opinions. The reality is, a bears olfactory system is probably their strongest sense. So it makes sense to attack that first. With their extreme mass, getting sufficient penetration will be difficult with most handgun rounds. If ever I decide to go into grizzly country, I'll definitely have bear spray with me! I haven't watched it yet, but I will. Thanks
@wizardofahhhs7595 ай бұрын
I don't even live anywhere near bear country but I find these videos fascinating.
@judij10848 ай бұрын
this give excellent advise, and puts it across in a very credible way; i needed to hear the part about the black widow and the rattle snake and the way humans tend to kill them because of the supposed threat, even if it isn't immediate. I know i am that way, and it made me understand better how grizzlies think. I loved how you don't have a "guns bad. bear spray good" attitude and are very thorough in explaining the pros of using a gun and pointing out how much more practice and thought must go into deciding to use one. I have recently come across 2 horror stories of a grizzly killing couples that used bear spray and had done everything else right; making noise not to startle, keeping food 15 feet off the ground, having the bear spray immediately accessible, etc. it was very discouraging to hear, and sounded like there is just no way to avoid getting attracted in bear country. i would like to hear your thoughts on those 2 situations, i think they were on the Final Affliction channel.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind feedback, and for sharing your thoughts and concerns. If one of the couples you are referring to includes the couple killed in Banff this year I hope you'll take the time to watch my full analysis video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pp2imqunrq_Hj5c.html There are some people who extrapolate far more from antidotal incidents than they have any logical right to extrapolate and often use a handful of failed deployments to feed fears, and frustrate true understanding. That's why I'm spending more time creating these resources. Much more to come. I hope to hear from you again.
@frogglen63508 ай бұрын
I really like your narration. I hope you talk more about animals in future videos. Thanks for speaking facts
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I will be talking more about animals in the future. I'm planning to make a video on Colorado recently releasing wolves. They've been missing on the landscape for close to a century, and for the first time a State wildlife agency has brought them back. Looking forward to discussing this and more.
@savevlad69127 ай бұрын
I live off grid in northern AZ and there are black bears. I actually despise bears. Don't like them at all. Don't think they're cute. I do all I possibly can to avoid bears.
@zeeg9284 ай бұрын
I live in N.Az as well an yes the bears are very present so be safe
@federationprime8 ай бұрын
I've been hit with bear spray diffused in an enclosed space, and not much of it. It didn't really get my eyes, but inhaled you get such an extreme amount of pain, mucus, and spasming in your airways that you're almost instantly incapacitated. For a few seconds I thought I'd completely suffocate before I managed to cough my way to a lungful of air. It was that experience that really taught me how a little "hot sauce in a can" can turn away a grizzly.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience. I've gotten some bear spray (a low dosage) in my eyes and it's nasty. I think people really don't understand the involuntary response to this stuff and how powerful it is, especially when used effectively. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@daltonb38404 ай бұрын
Your right. It’s amazed me how so many people are ill-informed. I’ve always told people that bear spray should always be on you in back country but just in case the bear spray doesn’t work like the case of wind or other variables you should have a firearm and you shouldn’t just go shooting the bear if it’s not charging you, a pop shot to try to scare the bear off should be the first thing. If you do have to shoot the bear you need to make sure you know where to place your shots and be proficient enough to hit your target. Long story short I would recommend both and also whatever you choose to carry make sure you practice regularly. And also know what condition your self defense item is in and like he said always be aware of your surroundings. Be mindfull and aware and diligent when in backcountry. Don’t take it as just a leisurely stroll through the park because it’s not and you could get yourself killed thinking of it as that
@tomb22898 ай бұрын
Fantastic breakdown of the evidence, thank you! Those gun negligence clips really are horrifying. There's a sentimental attachment to the frontier warrior ideal, which encourages poorly-trained people to endanger themselves and their loved ones. No one wants to talk about the thousands of accidents and suicides that happen so much more frequently because of handgun availability. Just look at how hard cops find combat pistol shooting, even with far more training than many complacent gun owners are willing to put in.
@HomeInWildSpaces6 ай бұрын
Excellent comment. I'm a huge proponent of proficiency, but when it comes to firearms proficiency is a much higher bar than most people realize.
@NoName-ck2cq7 ай бұрын
What are your credentials? What makes your opinion different than any others on line?
@earthenergyhex7 ай бұрын
exactly
@ronaldstowell43685 күн бұрын
You have to watch the video to find out.
@HomeshighlandPark7 ай бұрын
Pepper spray are good for people not for a charging bear set on killing
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
You have personal experience with what you said?
@californiadreamer25807 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your efforts to provide accurate information regarding bear attack deterrance. There are black bears where I live, but I have more concern about a mountain lion attack, so I carry bear spray when I'm out in the boonies. The lions seem to be losing their fear of humans. Your advice regarding practice with the spray cannisters is excellent! Thanks!
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! That's the great thing about bear spray. It's really not just for bears. It works quite well on mountain lions too.
@belovedwarrior4834 ай бұрын
MANY times bear spray does not work.....too many variables.....I've been shooting handguns for 54 years and I'll stick to what works for me
@HomeInWildSpaces4 ай бұрын
I welcome specific example of bear spray not working. There are cases where it seekingly was inadequate, but most of the examples people use are misunderstood.
@belovedwarrior4834 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces they report any time bear spray is used and their not attacked as successful for bear spray that's marketing hype 😂
@HomeInWildSpaces4 ай бұрын
Who is “they”? Again, specific examples are helpful. I’ve been analyzing bear attacks and attack reports for ten years, and if there is one thing that is consistent, it’s that people constantly draw false conclusions when both bear spray and firearms are used. The social understanding is a mess. Specifics are necessary to draw accurate conclusions.
@belovedwarrior4834 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces the bear spray and fish and wildlife agencies. To protect the wildlife. They care more about the dollar than the ppl. Show me where bears have been stopped in real life experiences. They can live for a minute without a heart. The spray won't work when their adrenaline is up
@ikipearl2 ай бұрын
There is data showing people protecting themselves using firearms since Louis & Clarke, probably even longer ..... there are no guarantees...I imagine a bear being deterred by Bear Spray is up to the Bear ...
@robertj84516 ай бұрын
I think the ideal cover is to work as a team in a bear encounter. One person with a gun one with bear spray.
@HomeInWildSpaces6 ай бұрын
You're getting at the most important and reliable deterrent-being with other people. However, your odds are best if you have multiple people who stand their ground and use bear spray. To my knowledge there is not a single case of a bear making contact with a person when two or more people stand their ground. A firearm is an unquestionable asset in the right hands. A warning shot can and often does deter a bear before they come within range of bear spray. And of course the appropriate gun in the right hands can end a threat once and for all if necessary. But it's really best to use bear spray first and in unison. The clear exception being a strong head wind.
@louispawloski91237 ай бұрын
That attacks in Bath park resulted in the death of the couple and rather dog. An empty bear spray canister was found in their tent.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you brought that up. It's one a few attacks where bear spray seemingly failed. Of course we lack all the information necessary to draw a definitive conclusion. I did however address Doug and Jenny's story in this analysis video. I hope you'll check it out (link below). Too many people see what they want to see in the Banff attack without recognizing the lifesaving lessons evident in that tragedy. And the internet is almost completely unhelpful as a whole. Lifesaving lessons from deadly Banff attack: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pp2imqunrq_Hj5c.html
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
It was my understanding that the bear spray they had was defective.
@georgesimon17603 ай бұрын
Also, was it just one can of bear spray? One would think they'd both have a can.
@offworlder13 ай бұрын
I carry bear spray, a handgun, and my trusted Benelli M4 loaded with brenneke black magic slugs. Thankfully my bear spray has been the only thing I have had to use but I am always ready for that day the bear spray does not work.
@dtcdtc8328Ай бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video. Much appreciated. Learned a lot. It sounds like its best to have every possible option you can carry with you. Makes sense to me.
@MilleniumOfTheComet8 ай бұрын
When can we expect links to the statistics quoted in this video?
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Later today.
@paulofelipebbraga96346 ай бұрын
Gun. GUN!!!
@mediocreman24 ай бұрын
Always make noise when you're hiking so that they are not shocked when you come around a corner. Click some rocks together for example.
@ddraigmafon47258 ай бұрын
Again, another intelligent, well-researched and informative video. Thank you for addressing this issue based on facts and reasoning rather than sensationalism and half-truths.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! It's probably been the hardest video I've yet produced, but one that I've been desperate to put out for years. I'm hoping that it will reach a great many people and help them be more capable and prepared should they encounter a bear. Everyone benefits, humans and bears. Thanks again!
@justinetre93287 ай бұрын
LMAO I all ways have a hand gun when I go to bear county also so does my wife
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Guns can be very effective, but they're not a genie in a bottle. Carrying them means little. Knowing how and when to use them is what really matters. I cover that in detail in this and other videos. I hope you'll check them out and make sure to watch them in their entirety.
@earthenergyhex7 ай бұрын
me too
@andallthatcouldhavebeen...91757 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpacessame can be said for spray. Maybe take both, and a pet wolverine just in case 😉
@mikemelina73957 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces "...a genie in a bottle."? What do you think bear spray is?
@backwoodscharlie84837 ай бұрын
@mikemelina7395 When we go backpacking in Alaska, my wife carries bear spray , my son and I carry Ruger alaskan 454 casull revolvers.
@rockie3078 ай бұрын
I carry both but wyoming is super windy especially up high on the mountains. Wind and terrain determine which I will use first. I must be either scary looking or ugly cause grizz have always ran from me. I know statically I'm past due for a charge so I train accordingly and stay very alert. I know someday there will be one that runs at me instead of away.
@vagabondroller7 ай бұрын
The fear is clearly not “mostly unjustified” for those that frequently spend time in bear country. There are many firearms bear defenses that are not reported because people don’t want to deal with the law.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Lack of reporting is a factor across the board, including with bear spray. The data isn't perfect, but that gap often leads people to fill the blank with whatever fits their choses world view. I respectfully disagree. The fear of bears is entirely overblown. That's coming from somewhat who spends a great deal of time in bear country and has encountered many, many bears. That does not however change the fact that people should be prepared. But part of that preparation requires tempering our social acquired fears. Thanks for watching and offering your feedback. It's received with appreciation.
@rongrindstaff30277 ай бұрын
YOU TAKE BOTH WITH YOU IN THE WOODS
@squatch24618 ай бұрын
Overall I want to thank you for a well balanced and informative video. My thoughts on this are informed by my 20+ years in LE and other significant experience with firearms use while under stress. I agree that the vast majority of people are best advised to carry bear spray. I also think that having someone deploy the bear spray while someone else is ready and able to use a firearm if needed would be ideal. Your firearms handling at times had me feeling concerned you may not have received the best training and advice. Yes, that is my opinion, and like a-holes, we all have one and don't think our own stinks. Carrying a pistol like a Glock with an empty chamber, planning to chamber a round under stress and then shoot a charging threat is not something I'd advise. Lowering a rifle, bolt or lever action, to cycle the action then re-shoulder it to fire another aimed shot under stress, is also not something I'd advise. Both of these are indicative of something you mention yourself in your video. If you're not extremely competent with your firearm of choice while under stress, it's unlikely you'll be able to use it effectively when needed most. 🍻
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the feedback. I don't claim to be the most experienced or proficient with long or short guns. Nor am I equally practiced with all the systems displayed in the video. But, I would add that I was using the rifles in a manner contrary to their proper use (close quarters defense simulation). I think most people would find their form lacking under those circumstances, but that was my point. It's my hope that my footage helps people understand the limitations of various defense options so that they could better decide on how to defend themselves AND make proficiency which the weapon they choose a top priority. I'll discuss carrying and not carrying with one in the chamber in coming videos. Again, thanks for watching and for your advice. It is received with appreciation.
@squatch24618 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces Thank you for your reply to mine. I think what you showed and did very accurately reflected the way many people would carry and use the various firearms. Which is great, and reinforces that bear spray should be the first choice if choosing between it or a firearm to carry. imho, as previously noted ; ) I am a very proficient and experienced shooter. I like Tom Smith's advice about what to use under different circumstances as relayed in your video at about 33:40. Bottom line is I agree with your fundamental point and don't want that to get lost in a conversation about technique.
@tomb22898 ай бұрын
He was using a glock at that point in the video but he does have to address the range of pistols people have out there. I think it's totally reasonable to raise the issue of what state to carry the weapon in, especially for fatiguing multi-day trips and presence of kids/untrained people etc
@TheTrippingAuthority8 ай бұрын
The 2023 Banff bear attack says it all…
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
What is it that you think is so clear from the Banff Attack?
@infogunvault69208 ай бұрын
Vitaly was forced to remove his skis and wade through the deep snow while crawling under branches. He could see and hear the bear ahead at first, but then the tired, wet animal quit moving away. This was Vitaly’s last chance to back away, but he wanted to “capture” the bear on film. With his camera in one hand and bear pepper spray in the other, he crawled forward. The bear was only 5 yards away, but Vitaly could not get a good look at it. He bent down to slip under a branch when the bear sprang at him. The bear pummeled his head and chest with vicious swipes of its paws. Evidence in the snow showed the red coloring of bear pepper spray. Investigators could only guess that Vitaly didn’t have the time or the room to spray the bear in the face before it was on him, or maybe he sprayed wildly as the bear savaged him. Another possibility is that the cold and snow inhibited the aerosol from leaving the can - a common problem with bear spray in cold weather. His broken, half-consumed body was found next to his smashed, bloody camera. The bear’s tracks showed that after it had neutralized and fed on its tormentor, it bounded away through the snow and headed for the mountains to den up for the winter.” Source: “Death in the grizzly maze : the Timothy Treadwell story”
@infogunvault69208 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpaces He means that the bear was sprayed by two people, and this was not effective. However, when people showed up with guns they could stop a bear attack.
@Coonhound7198 ай бұрын
How often does bear spray work against a charging moose?!! Lmfao😂
@sianne798 ай бұрын
I need to know this now
@Coonhound7198 ай бұрын
@@sianne79 lol it doesn’t work!!! No matter what anyone says!!! Iv seen it twice and hade to shoot one the 3rd time! It’s not that it doesn’t blind the moose! It’s the fact that you’re standing in front of a train that cannot stop! Moose are not agile, and if you’re standing in front of a charging moose spraying bear spray, it’s gonna run you over 100% of the time!!
@amusedBYfools8 ай бұрын
What's the liability for using bear spray on violent humans?
@goosewithagibus8 ай бұрын
Probably less than a firearm. Not sure why you'd ask that on THIS video though.
@tightwad8 ай бұрын
No liability if u skeedattle like Fred Flintstone.
@sianne798 ай бұрын
@@tightwadhe did commercials for cigarettes, im not sure he'd be able to skeedaddle anywhere
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
If you use bear spray for legitimate self-defense reasons, I don't expect there would be any great legal liability. As long as it was legitimate self-defense.
@tucsonanАй бұрын
Why does the guy in the red hat remove the rifle from his shoulder every time he chambers a round? If rehearsing for bear attack, he'll want to learn to work the bolt or lever while keeping the rifle shouldered. Also: great video and thorough, realistic treatment of the subject.
@josephcole88757 ай бұрын
This was an excellent video and I think you did a great job bringing clarity to the question. One possible criticism, It looks like you are practicing with an empty chamber, if that is how you intend to carry I would urge you to reconsider and re examine the issue. Either way at least you are practicing how you will carry and thank you for the great video
@HomeInWildSpaces6 ай бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. I'll discuss the why of my decision to generally carry with an empty chamber in the backcountry. Stay tuned.
@HomeshighlandPark7 ай бұрын
It’s easy to spray on a stationary object that’s not trying to rip your head off
@bunk957 ай бұрын
Why would a bear be forced to do that or appeared/sound like they are?
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
Same thing applies to shooting.
@marcreeves59802 ай бұрын
Easier than trying to shoot it
@geoffreyeble322 ай бұрын
A silly remark, as spray diffuses with distance, meaning it forms a cloud. A bear's sense of smell is much more acute than a human's. Therefore, it's an effective deterrent. Are you saying that aiming a firearm to hit a moving target with precision is easier?! Lol 😆 Any rounds you get off would have to hit the charging bear right in the mouth, snout or forehead, and penetrate to be effective.
@HomeshighlandPark2 ай бұрын
@@geoffreyeble32 depends on the caliber and distance surprise commitment of bear , accuracy Id rather use spray if I can. But always carry 45 70 will kill with one shot. If you can hit it. Right.
@mark83377 ай бұрын
And don’t hike alone. Don’t go jogging alone on a trail in bear country.
@bunk957 ай бұрын
Why not? Did you not learn about wireless methods of torture?
@samsmithmotovlogs29 күн бұрын
You are missing something. Every bear encounter is anecdotal. Every encounter has a million variables that make any real conclusions impossible. The best we can say is that in some encounters spray appears to be effective. The same for firearms. Better leave it at that.
@okbob81478 ай бұрын
Great Video man. I'm a 30 year hunter and backpacker. Seen a handful of bears over the years without incident, thankfully. Couldn't agree more with your analysis.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate your feedback! Thanks so much for watching!
@leveractiongypsy18484 ай бұрын
You clearly have a 'non gun slant' - you are putting out MISINFORMATION. Show your sources as your numbers conflict with MOST wilderness agencies....heres my experiences as a veteran of California Dept & Fish Game as a biological field aid as well as over 30 yrs backcountry experience in the following ranges - The Sierra Nevada, The Cascades, The Rockies of Montana and Utah, as well as The Cabinet Mountains in Montana - not to mention living in the Mission Range in Montana where the Grizzly Bear Conservation area is located - BESIDES FROM WIND THERE IS ENOUGH CLEAR EVIDENCE BEAR SPRAY DOES NOT AFFECT ALL BEARS - SOME BEARS ARE COMPLETELY UNPHASED - THIS IS NOT CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD WHY BUT THE EVIDENCE IS THERE - DO YOUR RESEARCH INSTEAD OF PUTTING OUT MIS INFORMING VIDEOS THAT COULD GET SOMEONE KILLED
@HomeInWildSpaces4 ай бұрын
The sources are provided in the video, as well as in the description. If you have any data that you do not think is accurately represented, I invite you to share. There is no “non-gun slant”. But neither a gun or bear spray is a genie in a bottle. They both have their limitations. That is the point of my videos. I in fact just today published a video on Todd Orr’s experience of being attacked after spraying a mother grizzly. I invite you to check it out. Mother grizzly attacks Montana man twice | "Bear spray doesn't always work" | Todd Orr kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nbSZe8maqd6sYIk.html
@evansilva30457 ай бұрын
You can’t just says “guns” though, you have to control for the type of firearm. Someone with a bolt action rifle isn’t going to defend themselves as easily as someone who has a shotgun with slugs. I think if you controlled for type of firearm the results would be very different
@bunk957 ай бұрын
Defend themselves from a bear? Did you check if the bear has the central nervous system required to decide? Why are you killing the waste humans? Im covered in knife scars.
@alexk30884 ай бұрын
Just saw a comment on another video discussing the ban on bear spray in Yosemite, that "black bears are like raccoons" or Yogi bear, only wanting your picnic basket, and you don't need bear spray, just yell at them. I am always astounded when I hear stuff like that. I wonder if these people have fire extinguishers. Most people have never needed one.
@BUZZKILLJRJR5 ай бұрын
You should carry both if you're in grizzly bear country its a fact, that's the age-old " Id rather have it and not need it, then need it, and not have it" situation. I was asked many years ago to be a shooter for protecting scientists from wild game in Alaska and more,so the scientists can take a core samples and other types samples so on, so forth. The first thing you try to do, is dissuade the bear from trying to attack the people, AKA scare the bear off by warning shot, helicopter fly by, bear spray, yelling. if that doesn't work, you use Force. (So bear spray would definitely be something you should bring always) always bring spray, but if that doesn't work then sometimes you need Force. If you're still not going to bring a gun with you then bring a couple bottles of actual bear spray and hopefully thats enough to get away. I bet bear spray would work on a cougar as well FYI tho iv never heard if anyone has triedit or not, there is alot of them around here too. I'm glad you said that because a 12 gauge is my first option, and my grandfather made me fall in love with 300 Winchester magnum.tho typically i carry a hand daily if im further out away i have my 12 typically.
@HomeInWildSpaces5 ай бұрын
Excellent advice. I would add, make sure you're proficient with your defense systems, otherwise they're just a security blanket.
@BUZZKILLJRJR5 ай бұрын
@HomeInWildSpaces yeah exactly, that was a big thing that I said about a self-defense weapons as well or Home Defense weapon, the weapon isn't really as important as making sure you can use it efficiently and effectively useing it. That you are comfortable and confident with it. A hunting rifle is probably not a great Home Defense tool, but if you were to use it properly, you could mitigate bad accident and other people being hurt, by using self defense rounds, lower velocity rounds, or ones specifically for expansion not penitration for self defense.
@karlyoung50894 ай бұрын
Keep your bear spray. I will carry my gun. If you carry both most of the time you will not have time to use your firearm after and if the bear spay fails. I carry a 454 casual in bear country. I trust my life with it. I dont trust Bear spray.
@graylonperson9012Ай бұрын
Say it again for the people in the back to hear. Choosing bear spray over a firearm is like choosing a glass of water to fight a tsunami
@nightowl7261Ай бұрын
@@graylonperson9012 You can't fight against a tsunami. You can fight against a bear. That's such a dumb comparison.
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
i hope you realize that has added basically nothing to the discussion and you didn't even bother to justify WHY you don't trust bear spray. did you come here to listen to the points listed in this video or did you only come here to simp for firearms?
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
@@graylonperson9012 clearly you did not hear anything said in the video about how bear spray works. Plus all you actually said is the most surface level response that addresses nothing in the video and didn't even teach me anything. Seriously, if you are here to learn, stay. If you are here just to be a simp for your precious firearms, or to simp over your desperate desire to shoot a bear (when the key in bear country should be avoiding confrontations with bears in the first place) there is this place called Reddit
@aejenkins3048Ай бұрын
@@nightowl7261 this channel literally has a video about why you shouldn't fight a bear. Yes the comparison is dumb i agree but in bear country, the key to surviving is avoiding confrontations with a bear, not waving a gun around hoping that a bear shows up
@amusedBYfools8 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's the issue w the expiration date. When the spray is kept behind the counter... Anyhow bought it last year, it's expired now. Very expensive considering I've not entered the woods yet.
@richierich30538 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed listening to this video and the opinion you gave on the good and bad of each option.
@pubu20107 ай бұрын
More anti-gun. Too much bad info in this video which could get someone killed. Just responding to one claim "There is no reason to not carry both". Of course there is. 1) In a charge you won't have time to use both 2) trying to be prolific on two systems is harder than trying to be prolific in one 3) the potential lost time while trying to decide which to use during a charge could be fatal. 4) trying to be proficient in two systems, leaves you less proficient at both compared to specific training in one. I'll stop there.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
Would you ever trust a mechanic who said, "I'm really good with screwdrivers so I don't use wrenches"? I expect not. But, I understand your point(s), and I appreciate that you have taken the time to voice your feedback. While there is crossover, the fact is that bear spray and the right firearm in the right hands, do not occupy the exact same defensive niche. More than that, bear spray is far easier to master and use successfully. It's because of that ease of use and effectiveness that there's no good reason to not carry and know how to use bear spray. The time it takes to master bear spray in no way detracts from the time needed to master using an appropriate gun. As far as knowing which to choose and when. I covered that in this and the follow up video. It's not that complicated. If a person is waffling between options at the time of a charge, all that means is they were not prepared. It's not a compelling argument for not being proficient with both. Much appreciate the feedback. Best wishes!
@pubu20106 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpacesScrewdrivers and wrenches?!? What the heck are you talking about?
@Pepe-pq3om6 ай бұрын
@@HomeInWildSpacesThat comparation made no sense
@KH-rt3ef8 ай бұрын
You carry with an empty chamber, and cite numerous statistics regarding failures in manipulating weapons under stress. Even the fact that flipping off the safety lever is forgotten under stress… Misfeeds occur during chambering, sir. That preparation failure could quickly render your weapon useless.
@KH-rt3ef8 ай бұрын
You’re also not seating your stocks into your shoulder. Your grip requires adjustment after each shot. It’s abundantly evident you haven’t undergone extensive firearms training… That aside, bear spray use could save one legal trouble; an attacking bear is likely expecting to endure blunt force trauma, but is not expecting to get a face full of bear spray.
@KH-rt3ef8 ай бұрын
If you’re uncomfortable carrying a semi auto chambered, consider a revolver. Carrying on an empty chamber with a revolver does not change its firing procedure. It also doesn’t have issues returning to battery when firing limp-wristed, or when pressed against a surface like it could be when wrestling. This advice is intended to help you. Thanks for the channel.
@HomeInWildSpaces8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I'll covering carrying with or without one in the chamber in future videos. I think you'll also notice that I do not adjust my grip in every clip. In many cases, the gun I was firing was not my standard gun, and I am not at all ashamed of readjusting my grip during practice. You comment about the stock not being consistently seated is a valid point. I would add that I was using long guns in a manner for which they are not intended (close quarters defense). The simulation was intended to fire rapidly, and naturally my form suffered. This is something that can be improved, with practice, but again I would encourage you to consider the context. Make sure stay tuned. More to come.
@mattwhite90468 ай бұрын
Great thoughts. I'd add that there's a huge amount of unreported cases where no injuries were made. I've had one or two of those myself. The last was where I used a handgun to deter a potential bear attack. Part of me wishes I had bear spray but the other is grateful that I had a handgun to create the noise that deterred the bear. I agree -- it is very nuanced & much more complicated. Adding to the troubles are NP rules (like Yosemite), where you cannot carry bear spray but you may carry a firearm under a concealed permit. That may or may not be a possibility going forward, depending on state laws. Also, a handgun has multiple uses in the backcountry that are beneficial for other emergencies, such as signaling for help. Before the days of GPS locators, I've had to use them to acquire food while we got ourselves un-lost & injured party members back to safety. A handgun is infinitely louder than a whistle or other audible signal device. Backpacking, especially when alone, requires constant compromises and doing without so a multi-use tool is always preferable to a single-use tool, no matter how effective that single use tool may be compared with another. I don't have any answers for anybody else but I know what tool I prefer. Finally, don't get your hopes up of getting grizzlies back in CA. Putting them back in their native habitat means putting them near population centers, not the more remote Sierras.
@EvelynKirkaldyArt_BearSmart3 ай бұрын
Your videos are fantastic! The ones I've watched so far anyway. I do have one comment on his one however. You mentioned, something to the effect, that stepping backwards when a bear is advancing (besides risking a fall) may show the bear that you are weak. I am aware one should hold their ground in a non-defensive encounter, but my understanding is that in the case of a defensive encounter, stepping backward can signal to the bear that you are not a threat, for instance with a mother grizzly in defence of cubs, where you need to do whatever it takes to show her that you are not a threat,.
@amadablam82297 ай бұрын
This was a great presentation. I don’t live in bear country but have often said I wouldn’t be caught in bear country without a powerful firearm. Now I know I shouldn’t be alone and also need the bear spray.
@HomeInWildSpaces7 ай бұрын
If you are proficient, definitely carry and know how and when to use both. Thanks for watching!
@RunD.Ones1s7 ай бұрын
There are far too many instances of bear spray being deployed and not stopping the bear, also firearm defense has 97% success in bear attacks even with middling calibers
@HughButler-lb6zs5 ай бұрын
I have read several reports stating anywhere between 90 & 97% efficiency for bear spray in repelling bears. Where do you get your information?
@user-dl7kp2fn4b14 күн бұрын
I camp in bear country six months each year. I don't agree with carrying a gun in bear country for two reasons. 1. Probably 99% of people carrying a gun, shouldn't have a gun. I can even say that a significant percentage of police officers shouldn't be carrying a gun. Each month in this country, police get emotional, overact, and kill people unnecessary. Not long ago, a cop over reacted and shot at a person because a nut fell from a tree, and landed on his car. Most people don't even know what a bear attack is, or what is unusual or aggressive behavior. Almost every video I see on KZfaq, for example, where they claim a bear is being threatening, it is not. It would have walked right past them. So people carrying guns are a considerable threat to bears who are just minding their own business. I had a Grizzly just a week ago, smell my food, and got within 6ft of my tent heading straight for me. When it saw me in the tent, it changed direction, and walked by. A lot of people would have got scared and shot that bear. Bears need to be protected from over reacting emotional people with guns. DON'T carry a gun in bear country. DON'T weaponize your phobias and insecurities. 2. Bears, especially brown bears like Grizzlies, are Apex predators, that are quiet, cunning, and fast. If they want to kill you, in rare cases will that gun save you. They can sneak quietly, and in an instant, cover several yards in a split second before you even know they are there. That Grizzly that got near my tent, for example, probably weighted 400lbs, and I didn't hear a sound even when it walked by. They can smell several times better than the best blood hounds, and can track you from miles away if they wanted to kill you, then surprise you from behind at the last moment. Not only will guns rarely protect you, the chances of a bear attacking you is extremely low. So you are carrying a gun for a very low probability occurrence when it is a very low probability solution. You are just as likely to be striked by lightning. Do you gun carriers wear runber suits to also protect against lightning? Thousands of people carrying guns in the forrest is placing bears at extreme risk for no just cause. Stop advising people to carry guns! This nonsense is going to needlessly cause the death of bears.