Hi, I've been wood cutting for 50 years. I'm 73. I just ordered a new 592XP w/32" bar. I refuse to go quietly into my good night. ;-)) Thank you for sharing your experience and for posting all the great videos. Shalom/gw

Great video Buckin. I'm 70 and I've been cutting trees around my house and I've learned that so many people much from your videos. Stay safe and stay strong. Love ya man

Always so generous with your wisdom and experiences. Thanks Billy

Buckin. Loved the video comparison. I round file with a 7/32”. Getting good at it because of you. Little c looks closer to the ground chain. I’m guessing that’s why it was experimented with. Keep it up brother. Love you.

Buckin' - your vids just make me happy. You keep knocking it out of the park with your attitude and competence. Learn something new with every episode.

I'm thinking the portion of the side plates you removed contribute to keeping the chain straight in the kerf, thus reducing "side grab" and deflection of the cutters. Chain is pretty loose at the rivets, and the cutters are free to flex into the drag point. I'd bet if you look close at the cookies, you'll see the cookie from the "sans gullet" will be, rougher, indicating more side drag and chatter. I WILL be conducting my own tests! Always here to learn. Thanks Billy Ray - good one.

Thanks Buckin. Just getting into the powersaw game. I really appreciate the time you take to make these vids.

Thank you sir for taking time to brighten our days ! When the days are tough and the weeks long you make it better and brighter and keep sharing the kindness with us it's contagious .

Love your videos & philosophy, "Have Your Own Experience!" Been felling, trimming, bucking & climbing for only 7 yrs as my retirement hobby job. My first saw was a used 372 and am up to a dozen Huskies now. (Switched to their newest battery saw for climbing 😁) Thank you for sharing SO MUCH awesome content 🤗

Thanks for all the knowledge you give. Learned a lot from you keep at it.

WOW!! This was a very good video Buckin!! It had a twist to it. Lots of great content! I loved it!! And like aways I learned something!! 👍🏻👍🏻Thank You!!

Love it when you share thing like this....it helps me learn and wanta experiment more.... Thanks billy

Enjoyed the informative video. Got a question about how this might affect my warranty, I just bought a new new husky 562 xp.

Been watching for years, RI USA. Been in tree service work going on 10 years. Love the content

yeah go for the Baby C videos we are ready for more! Thanks for the great videos you put out there ! much appreciated!

Love your thinking process, learning from your own experience, amazing keep up the good work.

Interesting video I believe I know why with the gullet in the square ground chain it cuts smoother and better. It seems to me when you leave the gullet in the chain it works like a chip breaker like a lathe tool. Meaning it breaks the chips into smaller pieces so it lets the chips flow better and you don't loss power cutting wood chips.

I loved what you did with your chainsaw chain that was awesome great video 👍

Welcome to the new subscribers. Love you videos buckin.

Looked like when you ground out the gullet, you nicked the side plate. In my opinion, the side plate is the most important part of cutting cross grain. The top plate peels up the chip, but the side plate is what separates it from the tree. One reason I think when you round file that the gullet is so important is that when you work it back in, that side plate is like a fine woodworkers chisel. Its not about the gullet.. but what you accomplish while you're working it. Give that no-gullet square ground chainna stroke or three, and I bet it cuts about the same as with.

I love your video man keep it up and where I can find those racers mufflers I trying to find them and I love the sound

I would like to try some ground chain. I normally run semi chisel chain. Cut lot down tree seems to hold up longer in the dirty conditions. I know cut slower but I don’t have to sharpen every time I hit little dirt. Have good weekend. Nice video as always.

You nailed it BBR. Straight up. ...and love them boots. Yeah, I've been wrong...it's humbling.

Good channel. I have been looking for a channel like this. Wow . I'm impressed. Iooking forward to more of your content.!🙂

Great way to finish a Friday!! Thanks buddy!!

Love the comparison and the experience. Oh Heck Yeah interested I'm more of the baby C. Curious if the baby C will clean up a face cut like a square ground chain. With the gullet in. Thank you Buckin. Love ya brother. 🌲❤️🌲👊🪓

hey buckin! have a great weekend my friend!

Great video Buckin, I’m still yet to try square ground. Going to watch your other videos on this and learn how to do it. High five bro 👍🏼

Would love to hear your thoughts on what sort of grind to cut sollid 15" rubber (think tugboat fender). It can be nasty hard or sometimes just hard spots, normally just run the rakers low and sharpen often. Not recomended but have yet to see a better way

Started getting the gullet, after watching your videos couple of years ago. Still leaning over on to continueing doing it. Maybe removeing my doubts, if you had done 3-4 strokes with the file after grinding. Anyways keep up, thanks!

Very cool info on the chains and as usual, always great content! Side note: You can skip one set of cleats, the very first cleat above the top eyelet. Your boots won’t bite you as bad on the top of your feet where the ankle meets. Just my 2 cents, mileage may vary.

So we leave the gullet?! It makes sense for a straighter cut! I have some old chains that I'm about to grind and file and test things myself! Very great video! I always watch them you have taught me so much about power saws and axes! Just put a new handle on a old plumb double header! It got tossed in a pile of scrap iorn i picked up from a old friend! I was so geeked about it when I found it! I've been using it to chop some fire wood! Keep on keeping on friend!

thanks billy lesson learnt even though i dont work saws anymore information absorbed stay safe and well you and yours

Man Buckin that is interesting! That’s an awesome comparison! Thank you!

Been around the timber industry in Australia for 40 years, those teeth look like they are square filed. Its your gullet that is a part of the cutting edge, I found the square file's to expensive considering they get affected by water and dirt just too much in the bush which is where I sharpen 99% of the time. So a stump vise and a round file are what I sharpen. When you say 1/2 inch chain are you sure that's an industrial chain for machine saws, I'm guessing 404 chain is the norm in my line of work. Love your enthusiasm

Coolest stuff knowledge is. Keep it up brother !!

Good morning sir. Please if you could, do a detailed video on different stones for a square grinder and how to dress it. The stone I just got seems too soft and won't keep it's corner.

Buckin.... I come home after a long one and still have chainsaw- brain. You help me unwind. Loving you brother.

70 and cutting! Goals haha 👍🏼 great video Buckin!

Love you man You’re the reason I got into Tree 🌲 working and love what I do every single day.

Love your videos I been looking forever for a square file where do I find one I live here in the great PNW Washington

Just starting out with my new simington grinder. I been taking gullet out but I like this idea, definitely gonna try that!

Haven't seen ya in awhile turned on Axe Men low & behold Billy Ray I've done filing since i first started watching you best advice ever

God bless you and your family and friends Buckin Billy Ray. You are a man talented and proud man who walks the walk and you have the experience to talk the talk. You have earned it. Thank you so much for sharing your experience us.

Just love ❤️ the way you explain things m8

Very interesting Thanks Man

I always learn something new with this guy 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

Bahahahaha your a good kid bill, keep up the work. Godspeed

Great video that… thanks for sharing that… very interesting and instructional… 👍🏻

Nice Any tips on where to find the video that shows off your baby C sharpening and does it make much difference to anything?

They’ve probably never tried it either way but they are the authority, I always prefer experience over I’ve heard. Cheers my friend

I found this video very interesting. So instead of using a 3/8 .404 grinding disc, would I use a 3/8LP .325 disc to achieve the ‘baby C’ ?

Hey buckin , your 101% right on us logger. Everyone got there own way for making chainsaw cut timber . You and iiii see it buddy .

I hand grind and not for 20 years but enough to want to be quick with the grinding. I usually dont get the gullet for time reasons but I do get it eventually when I sharpen in the garage. I only do it because you said its better but I really dont find a noticeable difference. A 10th of a second doesnt effect my work. I did find a very noticeable difference changing the cutter when milling and lowering the rakers makes a big difference as well. Cheers

I ran Buckins square ground gullet in chain here. Fast and smooth is how I'd describe it. You could hear it when he was falling in the bush. Each cut was "whack whack" fast and so so smooth..

You're a great story teller

You're the man... I only run full chisel, full skip tooth, hand file . Its deadly. You tought me how to do it. Again, your the man.

Would that work on a round chain as well leaving the gullet ? Or does that only work for square tooth?

Very interested in the baby c experiments! Thank you for all this excellent testing buckin'👉

You are right not many really good saw grinders on the internet. For a a minute back in 2006 or so the likes of Art Matin and Dennis Cahoon were on the internet but it did not last long. The cutter is angled away from the leading edge. As you can easily see the top plate angles down. The side plate also angles in slightly. This leaves the point of the cutter as the first thing that contacts the wood. Since you are grinding the whole side plate off you don't need to clean out the gullets. Many people don't grind the whole side plate off and files certainly don't. With part of the side plate left after you grind the point back a little ways, the side plate will start to hit the wood before the tip. This will make your chain slow down considerably. Your side plates are gone and slightly tapered down slightly at the factory gullet so they are not interfering with the porpoising process. The "Baby C" demonstrates all you really need to work on is the top plate and side plate. Everything below that should be well inside the kerf.

Nice work man 👍👍👍👍👍

You're so funny, in the middle of a serious chain discussion, you show us how to untie your boots!, then at the end you side spit !😅🤣😂😅🤣

Great video!!! 🌳🪵🪓🌳🌲🪵🪓🪵🌳🌲🪓🪵🪓

Are you going to show us how to grind the chain next?

Great info.

Buckin you on broadcast TV. Defy in Southern Illinois. Good job brother

hey there my friend.thanks and unconditional love from the emerald isle.I like solving problems,and leaving the bullet in definitely keeps bulk in your teeth and they are only cutting as deep as your depth guage.thanks buddy.thought of it myself and listened like a fool to 'advice'.thanks bud,I'm off to the shed to modify my chain,and experience and experiment.a hundred thousand blessings be upon you and yours.mad dog.West cork.republic of ireland

Buckin, I'm always amazed at how straight your cuts are, I cant cut straight to save my life, if you have any tips I would appreciate it.

I just wore out a chain with a round file in a stihl holder. I feel like I should be trying something different. I have a 20” bar with.325 chain on a ms261cm. I’m thinking about going down to 18”. I also just bought a little echo 2511 rear handle for cleaning up little stuff on the trails. There’s something more chattery about that chain, but maybe that’s just the light saw. Now I need to look into a grinder.

So do you need to change your saying to keep the gullet?

it's like when somebody says you need the same amount of strokes each tooth! bunch of MALARKIE! ;p love it buckin!

Hallo i am from germany and 42 i refresch old saw and i like Hand file your Videos are great i learn so mutch . Wenn i bekomme old saw i see very stupid file Experiments and i like to file old chain in New style.. Tanks for your Videos your are great

What log splitter is that with the convayor?

Yip thanx. Top plate cutter mattter? Does to me

You should specify that this is only on SQUARE not round.

“Don’t be flappin’ if you don’t know“😁

Well my thought was its like having a extra tooth on ur chain n before u started i said i bet its gonna be better with gullet in , cool video buckin

Excellent video and advice. It's all about experience, quote of the day" try this or try that". Love the channel

That side by side harmony ending. Oh My! 😍

The gullet ground out chain seemed to make finer dust and wood chips. You learned em Buckin.

I like the (1/8" file "BABY C" )and would really like to see more content on this. It makes a lot of sense. The 1/8" round file is cheaper and easier to find also. When the rules are No Square grind like in Saw Fest the BABY C may be a good. 😉 Thanks Buckin

Buckin' Billy Ray is the BOSS! I watched that opening video of the 3 threes falling I dont know how many times.

Buckin another very interesting show Johno Alice Springs 👍

So we should stop wearing our get the gullet shirts? Lol why on a full filed chain do you say to get the gullet. It on a baby c or ground chain is it preferred to leave it in? Can you do a video explaining why one but not the other please?

Does this mean my Get the Gullet sticker and t-shirt are now obsolete? Thanks for the great info as always Billy Ray!

So does this only apply to square ground chain not round???

I think the baby c would be great on a saw where the bar is at the maxed length to help run smoother and faster, I have a 361m with a 25” bar, seems to be at its max for the power

I never used to take out the gullet on my ground teeth until I saw you say get the gullet…. Why would it make a difference on a hand file round chain but not ground? Confused now🤯

Bucking, show the Babay C on a time lapse speed comparison cut. also, what are you running your Rackers at ? they loo mighty low........Jim

Nice closing there!

That three tree short fell drive off the ladders is an epic and beautiful piece of work.

So, do you use a smaller file then so you dont touch the gullet? Like a 5/32 instead of 7/32? Oh i see you went to square file looks like. This may be too advanced for me lol do you have a video showing this technique of leaving the gullet in?

I have bought several square ground chains and round filed them when they needed sharpening , cant say I noticed much difference when cutting dry Australian hard wood for the fire.

What bit you have in die grinder interesting video

Do you ever consider weight of saw before throwing one in the truck ?

the intro clip... where can i find the full video. i must know more

What log splitter is that

fk yes i was waiting for this video

hi buckin dose the make of chain make a difference stihl oregon

Your getting into high speed competion cutting secrets. Only part of the tooth that cuts is above the depth of the raker.