in a world full of lies it is refreshing to have honest unbiased information.

Agreed. Plenty of tests and claims are made on tools every day, but the only test results I care about always come after "were gonna test that" right here on project farm.

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I double check PF when ever I need to buy something like blades and other things. This way I get the best bang for my buck. It really helped me when I need to cut a huge steel boxed tube beam.

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If we were only so lucky...

@@UserUser-zc6fx STOP SCREWING AROUND!!

And he still has all his fingers

Wish I had woodshop at all 😔

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I am the same . Over the test of time diablo seem to last the longest in all round performance .

@@michaellebreton4294 Well except now you can step up to the Hercules.

You have it backwards sir. "rip blades" always have less teeth not more. "Rip blades have a smaller number of teeth and larger gullets, which means there's more room to remove the shavings and dust. These blades are designed to cut along the grain of the material on the table, but although they cut faster, the resulting cuts are rougher" Pretty much everything you said is wrong.

@@MrWizards1974 With all due respect, the point went over your head. I'm not comparing rip saw blades to crosscut saw blades on a rip cut application. I'm comparing *crosscut blades* to *other crosscut blades* in a rip cut application. There's a world of difference between the two and it has nothing to do with anything you just said, at all. If the deciding factors for rip efficiency for crosscut blades were primarily based on gullet size and fewer teeth, you'd expect the saw blades with the largest gullets and fewest teeth to win this competition. Real world tests and real construction experience show that the reverse is true for *crosscut blades*, and that is because the most important aspect of rip cutting for a crosscut blade is the tooth alignment, NOT the gullet size or lower tooth count. Dedicated crosscut blades have an alternating tooth angle from left to right, which acts more like a knife to alternately slice multiple scores across the grain. This is great for tearing the grain, but not for cutting along the grain direction. 1 out of every 3 teeth on a combination blade (edit: sometimes 1 in 2, depending on the blade) has a chisel tooth that is square to the cut direction, and it is this tooth that makes the combination blade more effective on a rip cut over a pure crosscut blade. The more chisel tip teeth the combination blade has, the better it will be in rip cut applications. This is why all the 24 tooth combination blades performed nearly identically well, while the 14 tooth blades performed consistently poorly, and the 5 tooth demo blade performed consistently horribly. When you're using a crosscut blade on a rip application, the biggest deciding factor is the number of chisel teeth and this is why I pointed out to Project Farm that it would be better to do these tests in a crosscut setting, otherwise it makes the results of the demo blades artificially worse.

With a left handed Skill saw! The man could be a surgeon with a right handed worm drive DeWalt.

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I think he may be an android! 😜

@@justanotherbum007 Deckard!

@@WontSeeReplies that’s a right handed saw brother. The blade is designed to be on the opposite side of your body. I know it’s weird.

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It will be the last, the price will go up once Milwaukee hears how their blade did on the test. They may even place some kind of verbiage saying "PF recommended".

@@JT-lq4yd that's no joke man. I've seen products he tested that were reasonably priced then I go to the store a week later n the price is up between 10% to 20% from when he tested them

Also considering it wasn't even rated for demolition.

Well, it's a framing vs demo branded blade. I'm sure a Milwaukee demo blade wouldn't be cheap. But considering performance, Milwaukee has most definitely been outperforming everyone. The cost of a Ryobi with the power and reliability of a Hilti. I'm glad at least one company still has some honesty these days.

They don't make them like they used to. Did anyone else cut bricks with a framing blade? I had one that lasted through multiple steel pieces, as well as cutting tiles and bricks. Cuts much cleaner than grinding wheels.

@@hammyboigaming904 Very interesting. Thank you, Hammyboi Gaming :)

@@hammyboigaming904 That sounds like one of those things the old stuff could do, precisely because things were crappier back then. Lol Seriously, technology in everything was less. So things were more overbuilt to compensate. They were also usually a LOT more expensive once you factor in inflation.

I have diablo blades on my skillsaw table saw and compound miter saw I love all three

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Excellent idea. I've heard many ideas suggested from following this channel, yours is thinking outside the box. I wouldn't think of laundry detergent as something that would fit the scope of this channel, but we all get our clothes dirty don't we? Plus if you research "best laundry detergent" it seems like all reviews point to tide, but the reviews I've seen make me suspicious of bias. Great idea, thumbs up. 👍

@@artvandelay1099 Thanks, Art

gosh that's a great idea

@@artvandelay1099 exactly..... what detergent actually removes the most oil/ grease/ grit from a working man's clothes.....I think it is a worthy test in this channel.

Thank you very much! Zero corporate sponsors. It's all about honest and accurate test results!! Thanks again!

Seriously, that is True. Please don't say that "C" word here again, though. :)

Hell yeah!

@@ProjectFarm We have a label in France for people or associations "recognized as being of public utility" , you clearly deserved it.

Ah yes, integrity… the builder of empires, and the lack of which brings them down. I was thinking to myself why was I watching the end of this after the tests were all done, and I was just looking at him, gazing at someone with integrity. Leave it to a farmer to teach us about more than just tools and other products.

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​@@ProjectFarmagreed!

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😂 I thought the same thing, I wondered too what he spent on lumber 👍

I thought the same thing, the 2x4 was more than some of blades

You mean his wife? Haha

haha funny, I was just gonna mention something about this being the most expensive project yet!

wdym? how?

@@johnstaker6706 lumber prices have skyrocketed

@@johnstaker6706 Last week I bought four 4x4x8 pressure treated and four 2x4x8 pressure treated for my grapevine trellis. Those 8 boards were a tad over $100. Wood prices have gone through the roof.

@@johnstaker6706 lumber is about 5x as expensive as last year.

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My exact thought

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straight to the point with no minimal BS too

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Weird that none of the score charts had the Milwaukee price on them. Had to go back to the start to see that it was only $8

@@DiscoFang yeah i thought the same

@@DiscoFang I think it is because the Milwaukee blade wasn't a demolition blade that was being tested _per se,_ it was just the benchmark against which the demo blades were being measured. :-/

That one caught me by surprise.

Milwaukee is super cheap what?

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Diablo is what we use in our metal cutting circular saw. Milwaukee does ok to

Diablo is very good for the price. Been doing woodwork for 40 years.

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And it's not made in China. Clear winner.

Really depends on what you're cutting. I've had a 12" Dewalt framing saw in my miter saw that I use to cut applewood, oak, cherry and maple for the smoker. Been there about 9 years 🤣. Conversely if I'm just doing rough cuts in soft pine, I use some really cheap steel blades (no carbide). I can always touch up a tooth or two or throw it out cause a pack of 5 is like $8.

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Oh boy, you have a lot to catch up on. Just wait til you see all of the older engine tests and oil substitutes.

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No joke, he should be getting paid to test these.

@@opita no the hell he shouldnt. atleast not by any of the companies he tests. he does get paid through his patreon tho thats more funding than payment. right now i can barely trust him to not let personal bias from past experience or general reputation of any brands interfere with the tests. you throw in finanacial compensation from the brands into the mix and his credibility is fucking gone

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@@opita companies want to control everything even independent testers. That’s a big part of my respect for this channel. He is definitely not a sell out!

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government wont allow for that level of precision. Except on bombs and other armaments, those are ok lol.

The best way to clean the swamp ? Let's find out....For today's benchmark we will be using the same lobbyists for.....

@@1STGeneral 🤣 Non-destructive tests I presume? How dull. I want him to test clay-pigeon launchers and shotgun ammo utilizing politicians in place of the pigeons.

Sometimes frugality is difficult to understand. It shouldn't be. It simply means doing more with less. The jig is well made and nothing more, using off the shelf components that cost little. The application and transfer of knowledge was enormous. That's like a frugal award.

lol. Great point!

"honey, this machine just called me an asshole!"

@@jsteel89 Excellent reference!

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it also seemed like a poor finish to the cut compared to the rest

Big Blue looked and performed like a weed wacker blade.

terrifying & terrible also ! Can you imagine hanging onto a saw with that blade in it.. no thanks! The vibration would be ridiculous

Yeah…. I just don’t understand that design. I mean if we were going for looks, ok that’s kinda cool. This blade looks like a concept artist who has no idea of how tools work designed a tool for Japanese anime

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@@ProjectFarm Project Farm Barn channel! :)

@@ProjectFarm The Project Farm test rig test, which one needs the least modification to improve the testing process.

@@jackpics Great name choice! Project Farm Barn or Project Barn. Could show clips of building test jigs, ideas, updates on the shop/around the farm, and maybe even a few small vlogs. Maybe more of a raw channel with less editing, just get out the camera and show everyone what's going on around the PF shop.

@@ixionn563 I have seen comments or mentions that some of these testings have lots of fails when building rigs and devising ways to test them. Another channel to show some videos of those would be super awesome.

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Yes I do a fair share of construction and over the years have noticed the general reliability of diablo blades especially for demo.

I too have been using Diablo blades since my first saw (a Ryobi cordless reciprocating), and I've always been pleased with their performance, so glad to see that they performed well. Mostly I use saws for demolition while someone else does the cutting for construction. While I think I'd always fall back on Diablo, I'd be interested in trying the Evolution or the Hercules.

I'm also finding it impressive how the HF gear is improving. I thought they would forever be known as throwaway junk.

Just as I figured, I use Diablo blades, Hercules blades, and Bauer blades more than any other brands... and I pretty much get the same results as you got here, they last a long time and do a great job.

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Thanks for the video idea.

That will be costly.. Those Roto-molded coolers cost a small fortune. Some are worth it, others definitely advertising hype and excessive marketing to well-heeled hippies. Some of those Roto coolers also weigh a lot.. then you add Ice and food/ beer/ assorted contents... I was going to get a big 150 liter one for fishing, to hold the trout/salmon we catch, but the blasted thing was 89 lbs EMPTY. Add ice and a few 20+ lb salmon or 4 or 5 big lakers, and you'll need a team, or a crane to offload it. ( It was ~$800 (Cdn) on Amazon.

I'd love to see how PF comes up with a jig to figure out how easy it is to drag them through beach sand when the wheels inevitably fail to do anything.

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love the ingenuity of the jig, personally I would like to see them build a lumber mill saw system for turning waste trees on land into usable wood for building, especially considering what has been happening to wood prices LOL.

I don't imagine I'll ever use even a fraction of the information presented in these videos but I appreciate the structure, clarity and conciseness so much compared to other long winded click-baity videos that I'll watch every one no matter the subject!

@@deadzio He must be rich to afford 2x4's hahaha

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yes I need to make this jig for myself as well. I think there's some drawer slides in the garage....

Same. My father has been using a cheap blade and has been able to cut multiple pieces of steel and concrete with it and it cuts faster than most of our cutting wheels.

Actually they were 2 different blades. It was the exact Diablo blade and a 60 tooth Milwaukee blade

@@ProjectFarm hey good morning sir, only that I broke both of them this morning while getting ready for work. Boot laces, can you test work boot laces?

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Man that would be fantastic!

Would definitely buy that product. That's an advertisement claim I can trust!

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Heck yeah!

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As a wood machinist It looks terrifying tbh

What's surprising is how it passed their R & D testing stage... or did they just skip the real-world testing and believed some computer model?

Up to a degree it helps reducing Heat build up. dir rough Cuts in lumber lesser teeths do help. 5 are just way too few

In demo work where blades are going to dull no matter what you do fewer teeth will often allow the blade to have some bite where blades with high teeth counts just start gliding. The saw used also lacked the torque for the blade. I still feel the results are valid for the general user though as most people aren't going to buy an expensive high torque saw for DIY stuff. If I'm not mistaken the saw used in testing is about a $50 saw. At the end of the day Big Blue will still be cutting, ah bashing actually, through boards when most of the other blades just try to start a fire not going anywhere.

Maybe not *the* finest. But very consistent and solid setups for cheap.

Appreciate this!

it would be great to have a flag by each brand in the graphs to know what country made them throughout the test

@@ObservationofLimits fair point. But without spending hundreds, if not thousands, on calibrated testing platforms. Certainly creates a very fair margin of error.

@@ProjectFarm I was about to start writing about a performance loss graph when the last one was shown. That's great work because what it tells is which blades can handle abuse and which ones can't. What I really like about your channel is that you demonstrate the concept of "value for money" and so few reviewers actually do that.

Also I'd love to see the 5 1/2" version of this video because that's the size circular saw I use for light demolition. But from what I've seen on this video it looks like even if I use the Milwaukee framing blade it should still work great after hitting some nails.

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​@@ProjectFarm the best part is that the best and affordable product is NOT made in china

grip right makes a good blade and can be found for a good price. I seen one cut through 4 inchs of 12-14 ga steel like it was wood and not slow down or get damaged. and they are made in America.

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@@getonthecrossanddontlookba5004 WHAAAAT?

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Best KZfaq content creator?

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Thank you very much!! I've been working on it for the past 5 days and still have a lot of work left to do. I'm hoping to have it ready for next Sunday at the usual time, 11:50 AM CST. Thanks again!!

Oooo. I second that.

@@ProjectFarm // using an "on demand" hot water heater [like a Rinnai], in conjunction with an everyday power/pressure washer is almost akin to sandblasting ;) Though the heaters aren't portable, adding a line to an outdoor spigot makes a power washer think the heater is portable ;)

@@ProjectFarm Before you finish your testing, is it feasible to test the effect that the pressure washers have on rust? I'm actually planning to use pressure washers on rust for a project. (I'll be oxidizing the steel with diluted hydrochloric acid, then let it sit for a couple of weeks, then neutralize with baking soda in water, then pressure wash it with water, or I was thinking of pressure wash it with the baking soda water. Anyway, the idea is to leave a rusted texture, not to remove it completely.) Apologies for the long comment.... :)

actually a fantastic idea

I never gave the quality of Allens any thought until I finally used a decent set and was stunned by the difference it makes. Would be nice to see Bondhaus vs. hardware store generics.

Thanks for the video idea.

Actually had the tip break off in a bolt. You don't consider performance important until something like that happens.

@@ProjectFarm please test screwdrivers

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That's the stat I was most interested in!

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almost funny... if it were not so true these days. soon will be food and a lot of other necessities though.

@@punjivr people have no idea. the news blaming "panic buying" is just a temporary cover story to explain things away. there are massive crop failures all across the earth, amoung many other food supply problems. and that's just one problem out of many events taking place. soon they wont be able, or no longer need, to cover it up. and the public will no longer be able to ignore.

@@Yhrim70 let me guess: You, or someone you follow, knows a solution?

@@lanog40 a solution? Yeah, first and foremost a person needs to get right with the Heavenly Father Yahuah. Second, they can get prepared physically the best they able in what little time there is left to do so. But people should have been ready and prepared long ago...

@@Yhrim70 no shortage here in europe i guess god hates america

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Thank you very much!! This means a lot to me!

@@ProjectFarm i will stand there in home depot lowes or ace and pull up PF and look before I buy a product. some guy on another group i'm in bought a new weed wacker and was looing for line recommendations i'm like MAX POWER TWISTED OR GTFO. Amsoil has a new customer (me) because of you. my oil guzzling saturn though i feed that supertech synthetic. i bought a waitley dewalt battery last year based on your tests. i admit today i skipped to the end. i'll be picking up a hercules blade for my circular saw the nex time i'm HF. i bought Milwaukee work gloves because Milwaukee is always a leader in your tests.

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i cant think of an example but i know a few things that look similar are actually made in the same factory just branded differently. Perhaps Hercules just got the better metal

i was betting on masterforce the whole time. maybe my obsession with star wars...

@@Selendryle Agreed. And it could just be the luck of the draw as to which blade brand was made with which material - the strength and durability of metal can vary a lot with a small change in alloy percentages.

The blades are often made in same factory... the quality varies in the carbide, and how the carbide is adhered to the saw.

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Lol!!! Unfortunately that’s true. Gold is going to be cheaper than lumber at the rate it’s going.

my buddy sent me a picture of the 2x4s he bought at home depot the other day. it was like a dozen.....he spent like $1000 there that day.

Ain’t that the truth!! 👍👍

@@MrSGL21 Must have snuck a couple out!!

Yeah no joke I went to build some shelving in my garage and I'm like Why are these 20$ They used to be like 2$

Agreed, I also imagine him talking to himself about how to edit a 14 second blade compared to a 2-3 second fan

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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

Nikaluss just out of curiosity, what conclusion did you come to after what you heard/saw? What blade will you now purchase?

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@@DanKoning777 I’m going to stick with Diablo. The other blades are great but I don’t do demolition, I sub demo out so the cut time is the most important part for me. Yes, there are faster blades but I think Diablo is the best that I can readily get in my town (Baton Rouge, Louisiana)... that and I buy them bulk and have about 50 new blades in storage😂

@@nikaluss5946 // Agreed; and to be honest [overall, at least for me], the Diablo is my go-to in most cases. Btw, Todd is great at informing/giving knew information, but he's also just as good at affirming what ppl thought to be true as well. God bless.

I can’t understand the application of “big blue”.... just why?

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But did the video make the cut?

Your humor is pretty sharp. Not a dull moment around here. I definitely saw this coming.

Cutting edge comments on this one🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, but the blade tests went very slowly. It is like he was just "lumbering" through them....lol. J/K Great job as usual.

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I have requested this too

Bold of you to think there are people that actually remove the blade that came with their mower.

@@mc-sp8zr I saw a guy come in the mower shop while I was buying blades and said his wasn't mowing good. I ask if he looked under the deck at the blades or to see if dead grass was built up on the deck. He never even looked😜 I swap sides of the deck each time I sharpen mine (2 blade riding) because the discharge side blade always wears faster. It gives each blade equal wear doing that.

Except for Josh. Don’t be like Josh.

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Bro, I said the same thing. I woulda at the very very least expected Ryobi.

Don't worry, there are the more expensive white blades by milwaukee.

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Lol I know that F me up

yeah I was thinking the same thing.

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Made in Italy and not China is also a bonus. Not as good as America but we'll take it

@@danb9312 turns out italy is actually much better than america

Diablo on the crew only

@@danb9312 sometimes true, but not a blanket statement

Double lol - your screen name AND joke. Nice : )

i was thinking painting it pink like patrick star...it looks exactly like patrick running LOL

By the time Big Blue was done making a pass through the wood I had another birthday.

I was thinking the same thing, it is like are trying to make a shuriken instead of an actually useful saw.

@@razi_man I thought it looked gimmicky at the beginning but thought, maybe it might have some advantage. Nope, I was right. Big Blue was a total gimmick, and twice the cost of the best performers. It's like the company didn't even test the blade before marketing it.

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@@ProjectFarm can you show us how you built that rig? Was it already a track saw or did you modify a circular to essentially become a track saw?

I’d also very much like to see how the track was built, I live in an apartment so a track jig is a much better option for me than a table saw for repeatable straight lines

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Just left there and wish I saw this before I went. I didn't walk out with a blade :(

Same here~~gotta stock some blades before the price rise

If you put the Diablo and Hercules side by side, they look identical (laser etch marks, heat reliefs, etc) except for color. Their nearly identical performance in this testing would seem to indicate what I've always suspected - they are the same blade with different color coating.

I work for Harbor freight, and while all the tools are cheap, there are a few tools and accessories that are as good or better than their expensive counterparts. And, surprisingly, a lot of the tools you see at Home Depot and Lowes are made by the same factory that makes Harbor Freight tools.

@@wolfhuntersarmory yes, the 12" Hercules sliding miter saw is as good as the Dewalt.