Yes! I forgot to mention that in the video but had 2 onscreen elements mentioning it. I know a lot of people don't watch and instead only listen though, I'm one of those people myself.

@@NemoPropaganda haha, I'm sorry must have missed that walking around. Thanks for the reviews!

@@CommonAccent all good, I'm the same way, I listen to videos mostly while cooking or working out.

100% yes that would be an excellent combination!

Outlaw has a streamer included too.

Looks to be disigned similarly to A2.

why wouldn't you?

Brian have you heard emotiva amps? I'm considering avoiding the step from emotiva and going straight to parasound or ps audio after talking to a local, mostly because ive learned i dont like harsh, high, or shouty, and he mentioned emotivia definitely makes speakers bright and shouty. I dont remember what his amp was but i bought some speakers from him and listening on his $4k amp vs my yamaha is a different experience all together and he reccomended parasound. I just got some hwco 700's, have 2 rythmik 12's on the way, and trying to make headroom for my speakers and play my subs in true stereo

@@GoodVibesOnly1914 I have not heard the Emotiva amps yet. I do have some Heco 300's and they are warmish. Heco 700's with 2 Rythmik 12 subs is probably going to sound very awesome!!!!!! I do have some Emotiva speakers and an old Emotiva surround pre-amp which sounds good but has a terrible user interface (It's discontinued). I say test out your new speakers and subs with your current Yamaha you might like it! Sorry for the late response! Parasound is a good company and all tracks are not recorded equally. The sub volume adjustment helps out a lot on the Parasound pre-amp(New Classic 200). I haven't heard their newer power amps (I have goals!) and PS-Audio anything also (More goals!). All I can recommend is to look at other gear if the Yamaha isn't working for you, it might sound great with the Heco 700s they are 92 DB = easy to drive! IT's ok to use tone controls!! I think Nemo reviewed some Emotiva amps and same with Cheap audioman. Cheers and thanks for sharing! I hope your system turns out the way you want it to sound!

remote can control treble, bass, and subwoofer level. I don't know anything about thiel or legacy. There is no loudness button.

I thought about the Hint as well, similar features for sure. However, for similar features AND similar price, check out the Outlaw Audio RR2160 MkII. Styling not for everyone (I think it's rad, personally), but undeniable value.

@@svalbard01 never seen that one before, definitely looks like another good value proposition but I have never looked to deep into that brand and their reputation. What I would love to see is a Halo Hint 6 or an amp with those features that just eliminates the DAC. Just give me all those same features in an analogue only unit. Edit: to add to my statement. For instance you can get the p6 pre amp and it’s the same pre amp that’s in the hint 6. Or you can move up to their premium line which is an all analogue pre amp, but you lose all the bass management and tone controls and what not.

I tried the Parasound P6 preamp with my A21 power amp. The P6 is a very polite sounding amp and I would expect the Hint 6 to be similar, but I thought the P6 buried the details, so I returned it and bought a Musical Fidelity M6s Pre instead. The MF is next level. I also have a TA2, but Nemo is right that Emotiva has a house sound and it isn't to my taste. I agree that the TA2 is a great value, but if you are a critical listener, then I believe proper speaker selection is a must. You need the right speaker to help tame the brightness of the TA2.

We love parasound!

I'm familiar with outlaw but never heard their products, that amp looks really cool!

@@NemoPropaganda It does look really cool. I'm wondering, with all it's options, if it's able to drive something like the Buchardt S400 MKII to it's full potential. Thank You also for covering the Fritz Carbon 7 SE MK2. Another great product we dont hear enough about.

@@BRoss-tj2yo I can drive the S400 MK2 no problem but not to its full potential of fidelity. The S400 MK2 has a high performance ceiling, if you want the absolute best out of it I'd suggest something like a Kinki EXM1+ but that doesn't have any features.

The PT2 is a preamp only. I’m not familiar with the Mirage speakers but the TA2 should be able to drive just about any speaker in a normal sized room to well over 100dB.

I didn't notice any difference in SQ, both are great! The TA1 is still very feature packed and can also be used as a preamp so while it depends on your future goals it certainly does have the option to stay in your system as a preamp if you were to upgrade to mono blocks in the future for example.

How do/did you find the pairing?

@@dropthehammer1360 it sounded good. I’ve since changed most of my equipment. I kept the KLH speakers though. They’re not going anywhere

@@Alamo-cz5xc what are you driving them with now?

@@dropthehammer1360 ChocoSound Emei. I also switched subs to a Rel T5x

I'm sorry bro I don't really cover towers too often but Emotiva makes a great speaker! Just buy it :) They have in an home trial so its no risk.

I love that you can control the subwoofer level from the remote! Super convenient :)

Sweet!@@NemoPropaganda

Sorry brother I have not. I personally don't love the vintage look so I usually don't review speakers in the style. I have heard good things though.

oh yeah, there are always options higher up the chain. I totally forgot about parasound but they've been offerring some cool bass management options for awhile, thank you for mentioning that! Great option for anyone that has a couple more dollars.

Right, we can't have it all at that price point. What about a RCA out clear path as well for external headphone amp. LOL. So I can listen full tilt with the speakers off with external amp, also aligns sort of with the "Tape Out" part of this, for just line source for tube headphone amp, as mine also has outputs "monitor" to add tube sound to any source. I'm off in the weeds again, sorry. Just saying if it had the tape out/monitor in, could use the best tone controls (valves) via my schitt Valhalla 2.

I think any of the combos I listed in the review are better choices than B2+.

yes of course!

You can use the preout at the same time as the speaker terminals but if you switch the high pass function on it applies to both the pre out and the speaker terminals.

Buchardt. I don't know what's going on with Heco in the USA but I also noticed it seems to be no longer available for some reason.

either one will have plenty of current to drive most speakers, the TA2 ups that power obviously and has way more features. If you can afford the TA2 I don't think you'll regret it.

really? that's a bummer, those Theils drop down to around 3ohm I believe and are 86dB?

@@NemoPropaganda Yeah, something like that. Back in the 90's I had Adcom GFA-555II to push them, all I could afford. I had 2 of those to push some Maggies that were even worse! When I built my listening room, I got a BAT amp that slapped them around just fine - and sounded _so_ much better. I'm using that same amp almost 20 years later to push Kanta 2's, they don't need a fraction of the grunt that thing has! The Parasound does an ok job for the TV with movies in a considerably smaller room. The TA2 did almost as good, but there was no way those fans weren't going to switch on. I could hear those things out in the hallway.

I don't see why you couldn't but I suggest you double check with Emotiva to be 100% sure!

If you like the Emotiva sound some logical upgrades would be something like the Kinki Studio EXM1+ or Buchardt i-150. Those two amps have a similar sound but take it to another lefel of fidelity. But if you're happy with what you got maybe just add an Ares2 DAC as your next upgrade perhaps. I've found that to compliment emo gear rather nicely.

Yes, very good stuff. Would I pair an emotiva amp with Mon Platimon speakers? Probably not. But I would pair Emotiva with Buchard p300/S400, CSS 1TD/1TDX, Polk Reserve, Dynaudio EMIT/Evoke, KEF Q150/350, Elac, Thomas's TL speakers, Heco Aurora, etc... Emotiva gives you a lot for your money and it's mostly a neutral/cool sound so it's a great match for a lot of speakers but I wouldn't pair it with anything thin or analytical sounding personally because then the whole system will be analytical but some people like that.

check out IotaVX instead, that's kind of like the UK version of Emotiva, they make great stuff too!

I listen to metal too but I don't have any first hand experience with any of the gear you own so it's hard to say. The TA2 has way more headroom but your speakers aren't that hard to drive either.

Thanks for the reply!. When comparing specs on paper and the price difference would you choose the NAD C 389 over theTA2 personally? Is the x2 price worth it? @@NemoPropaganda

@@infamous119 the C389 isn't twice the price unless you get the BluOS version that has a streamer built in, there is a cheaper one for $1599 that doesn't have the streamer built in, anywho without hearing it my guess is the sound quality on both is most likely about equal and you should choose based on aesthetics, price, and features. Hope that helps.

I tried to review audiolab but they did not respond to my email, I have not tried the NAD either but it looks nice. In my experience most of the popular amplifiers from reputable companies between $500 and $1000 offer similar sound quality. I don't believe there is one that stands above the rest in terms of sound quality only.

I couldn't say, Schiit is fairly picky with who they send review samples to, they strike me as a company that doesn't really need YT or marketing, their products are generally received well and sell very well simply by word of mouth and my hats off to them for that.

in my experience depth is more a function of the room, placement, and speakers.

@@NemoPropaganda thanks again for valuable info

yes if you have a separate power amp or subwoofer amp to drive the passive subwoofer.

I have not heard NAD 375bee

it will be a mostly neutral to slightly analytical setup focusing mostly on detail, nothing wrong with that if that's your taste.

I agree HP filters aren't necessary. I have a TA2 and I have tried the Parasound P6 and after trying them, I turned off the HP filters on both. Subs have a LP filter, so I don't think bass management on a preamp is a must have feature. I run my subs off my power amp and set the LP filter to about 75 Hz and I couldn't be happier.

@@dirtroadie5747 it’s usually the car audio people who obsess over HP filters and are shocked that hi-fi almost ignores them…of course with car audio you have lots of speakers that can’t handle much bass.

High pass filters only affect lower freqs. Mine stop (at 28db p Oct) all freqs 100hz and lower from muddying up the mains. Thusly, components aren't as critical as when high freqs are affected.

@@kozmiczian with the analog high pass filters I have seen the full range signal has to first go through an analog filter network to divide up the frequencies. IMO high pass filters should only be done in the digital domain, such as how AV receivers or mini-dsp do it…but it’s worth testing as not every system or set of ears will notice the degradation of the extra filtering.

yeah, I think on affordable gear it makes sense, its perfect here on the emotiva and doesn't detract from sound quality at all. Would I expect to see it or use it on something costing $5000+, probably not. At that point I would be worried it could degrade something because the system becomes so much more revealing.

are you sure you didn't ask them about the TA1 maybe? Perhaps you got a new employee who was confusing TA1 and TA2. Maybe try giving them another call just to be sure they didn't change anything. Tell them the man on youtube said they're wrong lol, jk don't say that. But feel free to mention my review. If you can't get a straight answer I'll try and test it again, I ended up getting one for my living room TV setup since I liked it so much :).

​@@NemoPropaganda Yeah, I spoke with 2 different reps there and they both said the same thing. I made sure to clarify it was the TA2 and not the TA1, and they gave me the same response that the high pass is only applied to the preouts and not the main speaker outs.

@@papoosee I just called emotiva and used my youtuber privlidges to get a little further up the chain. The high pass 100% functions on preouts AND main speaker terminals exactly as I mentioned in my review and there has been no change to the unit. There was a little confusion on their internal literature but they've cleared it up now. So rest assured you can indeed high pass on the main speaker terminals and I am 100% sure because I used it myself :)

@@NemoPropaganda wow!! Thank you so much for confirming as this was critical for me to know before considering buying. Thanks again for being so quick to help. Great channel!

@@papoosee yeah no problem man, I mainly wanted to make sure they didn't change it because I recommend it a lot, it's a seriously awesome amp!

I dunno if I'd call that a problem, the PT2/A2 combo is 22% more money and a 2 box solution, not everyone wants a 2 box solution but its nice that one exists for not much more money.

Around this price Emotiva amps will drive more honest power and have more features than Yamaha, personally I would rather have the Emotiva TA2. Emotiva TA2 is 135w at 8ohm and with much less distortion versus the Yamaha and the TA2 has onboard bass management which is really amazing and easy to use.

@NemoPropaganda Thank you so much for the feedback! Would you change your thoughts at all, knowing that I'll be driving a pair of KEF Q150? They sound pretty bright, so I was thinking the Yamaha might be a better match, but I'm no expert. On a side note, I will upgrade my KEFs eventually. Right now, I'm just having fun seeing how good I can get them to sound. Thanks again, I love your content!

@@benbrown7628 I think it's still a good match, you can just turn down the treble by 1-2 dB using the tone controls from the remote. Also try facing the speakers more straight into the room, only angled towards you a little bit, you should be able to see the inner sides of each speaker, that's how they sounded best for me. Pointing them straight at my ears was not the best.

No I don't know any others that have full high pass/ low pass. You could use something like a miniDSP maybe? I don't know much about them but I think you can accomplish the same thing.

Hey thank you brother!! The answer is no, well, not without spending a few more dollars at least. You'd need to add your own streamer and you can do that at a reasonable price these days. The Wiim Mini seems to be gatting a ton of love and is under $100 and then there is the Arylic S50 Pro+ at $219 and they'll be running a 20% off mothers day sale pretty soon so you have some super affordable options to add streaming to any amp you want. Hope this helps.

@@NemoPropaganda Big time my brother - thanks for the info.

@@justinhof6315 Will do - thanks Justin.

@@justinhof6315 you sure it has a streamer?

@@NemoPropaganda yes, the current version released in 2020 has a streamer built in. The model is the 2160 mk2. O paid 800.

Yeah, I also prefer AKM, could be a way of keeping the cost reasonable. Adding a streamer could raise the price another $200, I'm hoping for an evolution of this in the future like a signature version maybe with streaming built in. That would be amazing!

@@NemoPropaganda They have phono stage in there. I think a different version could swap phono stage with a streaming module.

I don't think it's the same, in AVR's its mostly been in the digital domain while stereo amps like this one take an analog approach. I could be wrong here but that's what it looks like to me.

I've had a few traps out for 10 days now, this bugger is smart! He avoids them :(

@@NemoPropaganda I blame scientist for that. They work so closely with mice that it was only a matter of time before some of the intelligence of these scientist started to impact the intelligence of the mice right? 🤣

@@yamafanboy bro this rat has triggered 2 traps but evades getting catught by them!!

@@NemoPropaganda wow it seems to me he's receiving some black ops tactical support from a devout following of approximately 3 highly skilled turtles. Your situation might be far more serious than we had anticipated. There's an expert that goes by the name of April I believe we may need to consult with her urgently.... lol sorry bro I mean there's nothing more we can do so we might as well have a laugh about it right? I hope you catch the bastard soon though. Sounds like a nightmare.

@@yamafanboy lololololololol, you're not wrong bro :) I put some beef jerky down on the traps, maybe that will help :D

This is my only complaint about my TA2, totally agree

I really wish Emotiva would release a preamp, similar to the PT2, but without the dac, fm tuner, and phono preamp. I think the dac and phono preamp make more sense in something like the TA2 but I'd prefer a stripped down preamp.

@@dchale1 lol we all say this like we don't have external DACs ready to go. To be fair, this is my main complaint with almost any amp under 2k. My CXA 81 has the same issue and that has amazing reviews online.

@@CommonAccent Very true statement, but I don't think any other manufacturer is using quite as outdated of a DAC as Emotiva. Even the CXA 81 is using a far more recent version of the Wolfson DAC I believe.

Does it really have an audible impact on the sound quality ?

Are you outside of the USA or using a VPN perhaps? It's $999 on my end.

​@@NemoPropagandathanks for verifying. I'm in Canada and the site is calculating the currency but it doesn't tell you that until you're ready process payment.​

@@wheelbasemedia5814 no problem brother, when I saw the weird price I figured it was a currency conversion :)

​@@NemoPropaganda, thanks! ​

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Why does it matter? A persons level of knowledge,, expertise, or hearing ability does not impact anyones ability to enjoy and love this hobby.

@@NemoPropaganda you are so right!!!

@@GeirRssaak of course yes some people are a bit tone deaf. I think everyone has some areas of hearing they are more or less sensitive to. For me personally understanding midrange took a long time.

@@NemoPropaganda you are so right!

Dear nemo! I like your comments!

Replace the PT1 with a PT2

They do have an upgrade program and I have the original box and manuals problem solved except I'll be without my favorite system for a little while😔.

100% agree, the major AVR companies need to step it up!