Best Small Table Saw? SawStop vs DeWalt Compact Table Saws

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Testing the SawStop CTS vs the DeWALT DWE7485 jobsite table saws. I compare the features of each table saw as well as the cutting performance to find out which one is the better value. I purchased all of the table saws and supplies used to test the saws to ensure an unbiased review. I am able to do that thanks to our Patreon and Channel Member supports as well as some product links are Amazon and other affiliate links. That means if you buy something we'll receive a small commission but it costs you nothing extra. This helps support my channel so I can continue to make content like this. Thank you!
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@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

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@user-ww2lc1yo9c 4 ай бұрын

DW7491 is out of stock everywhere.

@p7s7cdfk Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great comparison. As a retired plastic surgeon who spent many years amputated mutilated digits or sewing back amputated fingers from table saw accidents, there is no doubt that the extra $600 for the Sawstop safety is eminently worthwhile! I am replacing the generic blade with a Forest Woodworker ll blade.

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

Glyn, thanks for sharing that. Would love to talk more about that, if you're willing. Could you contact me via my website contact form www.731woodworks.com/contact-us

@user-ww2lc1yo9c 4 ай бұрын

DW7491 is out of stock everywhere.

@jackwilliams1927 Жыл бұрын

I had a small nick on my thumb because of a distraction. It could have been much worse. A one hour round trip, $70 for a new brake unit, and $3,000 for the saw. 12 years ago totally worth it.

@frankd8180 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your candid approach when explaining what you are trying to accomplish with ease. Well done video sir. At 71+ yrs old I am learning about woodworking and find it extremely calming. Thank you for the presentation. The Dewalt Job site saw is on my wish list. Take care - Be safe 😎

@californiadaze Жыл бұрын

Sir - you have great comparison videos. Great videos in general! Thanks for taking the time to share all this content with us

@Mosa-166 Жыл бұрын

Fair review, thank you. I purchased the Dewalt 7492 qs (European version) equipped with powerful 2000 watts motor. It takes dado Stack. Beautiful saw!

@timxymo7967 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a thorough and honest review!

@HilltownCreations Жыл бұрын

Thank you, like always great video! Thankful for all your hard work doing these vids!

@lelandfranklin3487 Жыл бұрын

Worked in the ER as a nurse...and the Dewalt IS probably a better saw. But, for my little home projects the Sawstop is just fine for my needs. It really is a $600 insurance policy...and with my deductible of 3k...well worth it. Saw injuries change your life in an instant. Oh, and the Sawstop blade it comes with is pretty terrible. Upgrading it helped a LOT.

@AB-nu5we Жыл бұрын

I have the SawStop Jobsite Pro saw. It's vendor supplied blade was awful too. I switched over to one of my Forrest Woodworker II's and it made a huge difference. Barely taxes the motor, beautiful cuts. And of course, as a Forrest blade, very little if any chipping on plywood edges. I did have one other issue that slowed my saw down: Out of the box, the bevel gauge was 1 degree off. Everything I cut was binding and burning badly. I saw that the gauge was off, but thought that was just an acceptable error on the gauge. I finally threw an engineers square up against the blade - woah, it was out of vertical. I went through the calibration process and that also made a huge difference too. Checked the fence after that, and it was parallel to the table top slots. Saw runs very well now. Is the saw you're working with worth the $600 difference? Oh yeah, like insurance. You pay for something you hope you never have to use, but it's there when it counts.

@alexwolf8019 Жыл бұрын

I have the 10" dewalt table saw, I paid around $400 for it and was the best thing I purchased. I had a cheap table saw at first and had to rebuild the fence on it. Learned my lesson fast.

@kiwigrunt330 Жыл бұрын

I have the one that is now discontinued. Beautiful toy. Much lighter than the Sawstop and less than half the price. Works for me.

@schmidt28117 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video and perfect timing. I am setting up a shop at a second home and don't want to buy another full size saw like my old Delta. I had not considered the jobsite saws in the past, and bought used contractor saws. For the price the DeWalt looks like a winner.

@robertmatthews6853 Жыл бұрын

I just got the Dewalt from HD after watching your review. Thanks! I got the DW7485WS (with stand). Was cheaper than buying the saw & stand separately. Love your videos!

@mikedunn5563 Жыл бұрын

Awesome review man! Thanks!!

@pteddie6965 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for an honest and well done review of these two saws. When you stated that you had to replace the brake system, a couple of questions jumped to my penny pinching mind.....1. How much does a replacement brake assembly cost? 2. How much does a cartridge cost. I looked and discovered that the cartridges cost at least $100.00 and that the cartridge must be replaced every time that this auto stop feature is engaged. I was surprised at both of these answers. Thanks again.

@ronswoodshack Жыл бұрын

Another informative tool review. Thanks Mighty Matt!

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ronnie! aka Lloyd!

@squirt12 Жыл бұрын

thank you for this non clickbait review

@RJ-sr5dv 9 ай бұрын

Your reviews are the best... Fast pace is MUCH better than the rest

@731Woodworks 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@jacobdavis8164 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vid. keep up the good work.

@danmoreton1788 Жыл бұрын

I recently purchased the Dewalt saw. It was a big step up from my brand X saw and that was what I was looking for! I like the saw for all the reasons state here and the Dewalt table saw stand make it the perfect height.

@jaybauer5221 Жыл бұрын

Dewalt has a 10" saw that I recently purchased for $649. It came with a folding stand with wheels and it had the same features as the 8.25". It also accepts a dado stack.

@patrickhenderson1964 Жыл бұрын

That's the one I bought 5+ years ago. I love it.

@DoobyDular Жыл бұрын

I was about to post this myself because it would be a closer comparison product-wise.

@Ricochet845 Жыл бұрын

I came here to mention the same. I bought the 10” blade DeWalt saw (model dwe7491) can take a MAX of 8” blade dado, set to a MAX WIDTH of 13/16ths. You will have to either order an aftermarket throat plate or make your own. I bought my saw with the rolling stand and it totaled to about $670(including tax)

@robertsheward9336 Жыл бұрын

Yes that DeWalt 7491 is a much better saw and it's STILL $300 cheaper than the Sawstop and comes with a collapsible rolling table!

@1steelcobra Жыл бұрын

@@DoobyDular I'll note that the $900 Sawstop Compact explicitly doesn't accept dado sets, because stopping one would rip the mechanism apart. You need to go up to the $1600 JSS model to have an equivalent to the $650 DeWalt. And the SS JSS uses an older style of fence, not rack & pinion. @Ricochet845 You can get CNC-cut Melamine/MDF zero clearance plates for the DeWalt on Amazon at ~$20 for a set of four.

@Dafnessific Жыл бұрын

For the time being you buy the SawStop and live with its shortcomings. But the SawStop patents (the continuation patents currently protecting them) are expiring. If you can wait, there will be new options within a year or two. (Not sure if Bosch will be able to re-introduce their 'Reaxx' in the US at that point, maybe.)

@RonGuilbault Жыл бұрын

Using the blade guard on your table saw will reduce your chance of injury. I would have liked to seen this test with the blade guards installed. You can use a track saw for a lot of cuts, further reducing the possibility of injury.

@ibarskiy Жыл бұрын

I got a sawstop specifically for that reason (and also precision. Dewalt is not the easiest to calibrate in some ways if it goes out of alignment). But evaluating whether I would feel a loss of a digit - the answer was a resounding yes - in very many ways - so that factor made it worth the premium.

@danmartin5255 10 ай бұрын

Love the vid! I get that its out of the box comparison; would be great to see them using the same blade type

@ScottS360 Жыл бұрын

You're right! Lots of people have accidents on table saws... ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE NOT USING THE BLADE GUARD! It's really a shame that you didn't take the time to review and compare the blade guards that come with both saws. If the blade guard is easy to install and works well, you're more likely to use it and may have less need for SawStop's flesh-sensing technology. It might be interesting to see whether you could push that sweet potato into the blade on the DeWalt with the blade guard installed.

@BlueCollarUSA 4 ай бұрын

I use a blade guard every cut that allows it for safety and dust collection. Unfortunately, there are a lot of cuts that don't allow them. Dado(and yes i know you cant use dado blades on thse 2 saws but you can still do dado cuts), rabbit, bevel cuts, cuts too close to the fence. And you can't always use the riving blade. Lots of videos of saws pulling hands into the blade on odd cuts.

@artv4nd3l4y 4 ай бұрын

Lol the blade guard causes plenty of issues also, can reduce visibility which is even worse, tell me you've made hundreds of cuts and definitely not in the thousands. It's okay some people trust Home Depot's panel saw to cut their project.

@maxperis7542 Жыл бұрын

I lost part of my thumb in a table saw accident. Definitely having the saw stop would have saved it. Stay safe fellow wood workers/ construction workers

@rickyperkins232 Жыл бұрын

No disrespect but had you use the blade guard that comes with the saw that is OSHA compliance you would have all your body parts

@maxperis7542 Жыл бұрын

@@rickyperkins232 You're absolutely right.

@rickyperkins232 Жыл бұрын

@@maxperis7542 bro a few years ago I had a serious kick back right in the gut, I thought I was going to lose an organ man. Last year I was pushing a piece of material on my table saw and the plate broke before I realized but no injuries. I learned the hard way one saw no protection I got hurt bad, the second saw had all the protection not even a scratch. Most carpenters trash all the safety gears upon opening the box, some refuse to even install the riving knife so we get hurt. So a company like Saw Stop sell us what OSHA already mandates all current table saws manufacture be safety compliant. In the video ask Mr. 731 where is all the safety devices for the DeWalt?

@maxperis7542 Жыл бұрын

@@rickyperkins232 definitely, my accident wasn't at my home shop it was on the job site, which I understand its always on the individual to take control of their own security but in the heat if the moment on a residential job site shit happens. I'm definitely a lot more careful now haha

@uriel-heavensguardian8949 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that sir!!!! I’m stuck between the two. But your words making me go with the saw stop!!! Something you have to live with everyday. Thanks for sharing your story.

@cristitib7364 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this side by side comparison! I have the 8 1/4 DeWalt and I was totally happy until I attempted to cut tenons on it, by sneaking on the final tenon thickness. I made many attempts but it seems the blade drops just a tiny little bit after a few cuts and adjusting it to get a uniform tenon thickness was quite impossible. That problem and also the safety feature is what made considering the Sawstop. Also I find the top of my DeWalt is not completely flat and I cannot get 90 degrees on both sides of the blade at same time. Using my digital angle finder gives different readings when changing its location on the top (up to 0.5 degrees variations).

@3ddrew691 Жыл бұрын

I bought the skillsay 10 inch portable twble saw over a year ago, and it works great. Bought on sale. Sometimes more expensive isn't always better. Sometimes it's quality rather than name.

@rcrogers6 Жыл бұрын

May be a comparison between 10" versions of both saws would be useful. It would also be helpful to put blades that you would recommend on both saws. Thank you for a very interesting comparison. BTW, the Sawstop seems MUCH quieter.

@davidmiller4594 Жыл бұрын

*YES* Same size comparison with the same type blade on each saw.

@briancorboy1042 Жыл бұрын

You can not get a 10" blade compact table saw anymore, unless it has a blade stopping technology. That change happened a little over 2 years ago. I think this situation is comparable to the code changes in regards to building decks. I'm sure that Simpson and Sawstop both had some influence in these decisions. I miss my bosch compact 10" saw. I've owned two of them, and they are great. I have purchased two of the worm drive skils, they are decent, but don't hold a candle to my bosch saws.

@jsmxwll Жыл бұрын

I ran the Skill table saw you recommended and this DeWalt. The most noticeable thing is that the 10" blade pulls far more current. I'd expect this SawStop is similar. I couldn't do that with any of the 10" direct drive saws I've used over the years. When cutting through 12/4 hickory for more than a few minutes, the Skill will pop a 15 amp breaker all by itself. 8-1/4" blades require less load on the motor for the same amount of torque so the current draw is lower. If popping 15 amp breakers, or power draw on a given circuit in general, is a concern, then the DeWalt might be a better option. I can run my extractor and the DeWalt without much issue on a single 15 amp residential breaker.

@NavinF Жыл бұрын

Depending on wire awg and length, upgrading to a 20A breaker might be a 5 minute job that saves you a lot of headache.

@TrentMitchell Жыл бұрын

I picked up the DeWalt and was able to finish some 2" cedar slabs for floating shelves and 1" cedar planks for the face of my kitchen island. Plenty of power, nice smooth cuts. And I still have all my fingers 😁

@SZOPanther Жыл бұрын

I got motivated seeing the 2 saws getting picked up! Time for a quick pump sesh at the gym!

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

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@Goose8219 Жыл бұрын

Dewalt living up to there name. I had one when I first got into building. Thank you, you convinced me in the Delta and been building like crazy. Thank you boss hog.

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

Right on!

@wolfman75 Жыл бұрын

Thanks For The Video!!!!! 👍😎

@haltz Жыл бұрын

Saw blade manufacturers recommend speed ranges (10-18k) for blades and this is done in SFPM (surface feet per minute). The larger the blade, the faster the teeth on the edge are traveling, so that RPM number is directly related to blade size. You can find this number by multiplying the circumference (blade size * 3.14) by RPM and dividing by 12 to get to feet from inches. In this case, the speed of the teeth on the edge of the blade are both on the low side of that range. The motor and saw blade are the variables that matter the most here I think. Your circular saw might be 6,000 RPM and 3 HP professional cabinet saw might run at 3,500 RPM. A Makita 16" timber framing circular saw runs at 2,300 rpm. The Ryobi 8 1/4" reconditioned table saw that's a whopping $60 at Direct Tools right now runs at 5,600. Etc. The almost proprietary blade size was necessitated by safety regulations that maintain certain table size blade height ratios etc. 8 1/2 in blades are pretty common on miter saws and it's surprising that they couldn't make that work, or maybe it was on purpose, who knows. The DeWalt saw is simply the smallest saw they can make and they make a bigger one with a 10 in blade if that's what someone needs. This one is incredibly cheap and portable. I have two of them and a Sawstop PCS in my garage. I'm sure there were a bunch of guys like me who found the Jobsite Pro to be huge and take up too much space in their truck or van or trailer and went back to this little guy, so Sawstop got into the compact game as well. I wouldn't recommend either one of these saws to a hobbyist.

@vikentijslauruts2153 14 күн бұрын

thanks for the vid! greetings from Baltic States. :)

@iananthonyasilo5255 Жыл бұрын

love your rogue equipments

@stephenowens5375 11 ай бұрын

Brilliant review ✌️

@731Woodworks 11 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

@daviddejong187 Жыл бұрын

I have the 7485 in my basement shop and find it to be a very capable saw. Perfect for me!

@jameskuhlman9835 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the insights, Matt. Food for thought. That 10" blade has more surface area and teeth in a cut. Both add to the load on the motor and between that and the lower RPM of the motor give the sense of it bogging down. I'm not spending 900 on a bench saw, all said. Finger saver or not. But then I did get a Grizzly 5 hp cabinet saw on the used market for a significant mark down. It needed TLC and some parts, but it is great at holding down the slab in my garage and manufacturing huge heaps of sawdust. I loves my tablesaur and it chews through tuba fours and sixes like they aren't even there.

@michaelpederson8883 10 ай бұрын

I am no saw expert, but from the car world and tire/wheel dynamics, it may not be just surface area and teeth, but when you are using different diameters a HUGE factor is leverage (axle distance to teeth/tire/brake rotor edge) and edged speed. Maybe that explains some of the cutting test results and comments in the what was it 8 1/2" vs. 10" comparisons?

@uhN0id 5 ай бұрын

I'm in the market for a small table saw and these are the two I'm looking at. The way I'm thinking about it and why I'm leaning towards the SawStop is "If I lost a finger today I'd absolutely pay $600 to get it back". But damn, for $300 that Dewalt seems like a fantastic saw! My janky Ryobi miter saw cost that much!

@user-ww2lc1yo9c 4 ай бұрын

DW7491 is out of stock everywhere.

@uhN0id 4 ай бұрын

@@user-ww2lc1yo9c in stock at home Depot in southern California

@miked528 Жыл бұрын

Just got the DWE7485. I have not set it up yet. Thank you for the review. I agree the blade stop is a nice feature, but for the amount of time that I'll be using the saw, not worth $600.

@drstampfli Жыл бұрын

Both those saws are $300. The SawStop safety features add $600. Like you mentioned, my left thumb tangled with a spinning blade last year. After 7 stitches and a plastic surgeon, my bills totaled $6,000.

@artv4nd3l4y 4 ай бұрын

I see because you're not careful with your tools everyone else needs a SawStop now, makes sense.

@fridryx8464 3 ай бұрын

@@artv4nd3l4y accidents are accidents thats what theyre are, even if youre perfectly "safe" an accident can still happen, 600 for safety is a bargain

@bran-qt7ds Ай бұрын

@@artv4nd3l4yonly a fool thinks an accident can't happen to him. Every single day people suddenly pass out, have heart attacks, strokes, seizures; a kid or dog or even adult walks into the room and bumps into you, the list goes on of things you can't anticipate.

@artv4nd3l4y Ай бұрын

@@bran-qt7ds I use my angle grinder to shave my pubes, talk about a multi tool

@patrickhenderson1964 Жыл бұрын

I made a zero-clearance throat plate for my Dewalt CTS. Very simple. It will also handle a dado stack.

@johnso47 Жыл бұрын

Hearing you say that the DeWalt stops faster than the SawStop made me laugh. I get that it doesn't run as long after the powered is cut, but the SawStop stops nearly instantaneously when it counts!!! 👍🏼

@nickheryla Жыл бұрын

Great video once again. Man oh man it is agonizing trying to decide on what table saw and some other tools to buy

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

I know. It's such a big decision to make! I hope these videos help in some way make the decision easier.

@nickheryla Жыл бұрын

They do sir. And givee the inspiration to get over the fear and just start doing it. Bought the delta t2 today

@nickheryla Жыл бұрын

I bought a Diablo thin kerf blade. Do I need stabilizing disc's or a different riving knife?

@nickheryla Жыл бұрын

I'm so happy with the delta. I never put a table saw together and had some unbelievably frustrating steps, but once together and a small amount of tweaking, it is dead accurate. I couldn't be happier with this thing. I'll get a harvey when my skills improve

@Coxfame Жыл бұрын

@ 13:19 at the cabinet supply house they call it paint grade china white birch. But sometimes we use it with stain. Birch for stain is alot expensive. By the way I am a black and yellow team. I have the 32.5 inch max rip with will and the very small 10" max rip 24 inch saw. I love them and still got the first generation dewalt portable table saw 20 18 years a Old and still kicking @$$. Good video.

@whimsicalannie2 Жыл бұрын

thank you again. I really ought to be doing other things but I am watching your content for research purposes and because I enjoy watching and listening...not meant to sound creepy stalkerish by the way. I am torn as I really could use a table saw but I am also yearning after a single bevel, sliding mitre saw. Decisions decisions. I was decided on the De Walt until I watched the end part. Hmmm

@usablellc6735 Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine paying that much more money for the blade stop feature. There's a level of obsession around safety that I just can't wrap my head around. I'd like to know how many people are actually injured using a table saw and the circumstances of their injuries. I ride a motorcycle but when you drill down into the data you see that wearing a helmet, not riding drunk and sitting through a safety course GREATLY reduces your risk. We're so keen to rely on technology rather than common sense. We'd all be better off if we focused more on the latter.

@Blake-jl8lh 7 ай бұрын

I think all but one person ive ever met that cant count to 10 is that way because of a table saw. One guy somehow got himself with a mitter saw.

@Stahodad Жыл бұрын

I really like the Dewalt Micro Adjustable fence...

@vernsteinbrecker3759 Жыл бұрын

Great video, have a makita and thinking about replacing it because of the fence and won’t rip a 2” thick piece of wood

@GaryGraley42 Жыл бұрын

Good comparison one thing about the larger blade would come when you use a crosscut sled

@jackdrury18 26 күн бұрын

Still recovering from putting my hand through the table saw. I would like to think I am on the higher end of care taking when woodworking, but apparently not careful enough. Did it turning the 10 inch dewalt table saw off after starting a basic straight 13mm plywood cut but something wasn't right. Looked down at the switch, clicked off, didn't feel anything. then the realism kicked in that I had gone hrough my left hand fingers somehow. Spent a lot of emotional time looking at blood trails, cut direction and anything I can think of trying to figure out exactly what I did. No luck. 9 days in hospital, now 11 weeks down the line. Very life changing. Just wish I had known that the sawstop saws were actually somewhat affordable these days. Thought they were still only selling the full size one for like 20,000. Can't really afford it but getting a compact one. It's the only way I will keep making furniture and I love it. Just thought I would share in case it swings even one persons decision. Biggest regret of my life. Don't be like me. You won't see it coming. No dado stack compatibility absolutely sucks but worth the other single feature.

@kelly-annflanagan7693 Жыл бұрын

My favorite KZfaq channel AND couple! 🥰🤗🙏❤️

@Kal-el_of_Krypton Жыл бұрын

I have the dewalt and absolutely love it

@jasonpaavola5696 16 күн бұрын

12:35 I am just getting into woodworking as a hobby to bring. In a little extra money and am limited on space and I picked up the DeWalt Flex volt job site 8 1/4 inch table saw and absolutely love it! So the haters can hate! Oh and I believe I picked it up at a super bargain price brand spanking new in box from HD for $280

@spenegdt Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comparison. Really helpful info. I bought the 10" version of the DeWalt contractor saw with no stand. I'm not too happy with it. The blade has slight run-out, no matter what blade I use. So, I guess it's in the shaft. Also, the fence is not perpendicular to the table and there are no adjustments for that, it is a fixed position. About 3/16 off from top to bottom. I've seen several other posts on KZfaq about the same exact thing. I really like tool reviews. Thank you.

@frankbattaglia5491 Жыл бұрын

The DeWalt stock fence can be pretty bad and has no built in way to adjust. Mine was not only not square to the table, but actually had a twist down the length of the fence. I ended up disassembling the fence, threw away the warped extrusion, kept the two mounting brackets, and attached the brackets to a length of 80/20 framing instead. I also tapped some additional holes in the brackets for set screws to allow micro-adjusting the fence angle. Now it's as square as I can measure, with the added bonus of easily being able to attach sacrificial fences and jigs to the 80/20 profile.

@spenegdt Жыл бұрын

@@frankbattaglia5491 Thank you Frank, I thought of doing something similar to square it up. The micro adjustment is a great idea. Thanks friend.

@brucehansen7949 Жыл бұрын

I got a Dewalt 10" jobsite table saw and I can definitely adjust the fence on it, it has Allen bolts you loosen up and they will slide in the rail. Pretty sure Dewalt has-been doing it this way for awhile now as my saw is already 4 years old

@spenegdt Жыл бұрын

@@brucehansen7949 Thank you for the reply. My 10" saw is new and there are no adjustments on this fence. I have googled it and watched some KZfaq videos complaining about the same thing. Maybe the older saws had adjustments, but I promise this one does not. I appreciate the info though.

@brucehansen7949 Жыл бұрын

@@spenegdt well you might wanna return it to the store and look for a used one like mine? Or modify and make your own fence. To be honest the fence on my Dewalt is a bit chancy, cheap aluminum. It works, don't get me wrong... but it could be better, hope you are able to work it out with yours

@mrgunn2726 Жыл бұрын

Great review, wish you had discussed; table flatness, accuracy out of the box, miter track accuracy, ease of blade changes, ease of calibration.

@sflagg0817 8 ай бұрын

I just ordered the CTS I have a shop that goes to a 12 x12 give or take small back area of the basement then the garage in the summer months and I cut the tip of my finger at work about 12 years age I still have the nasty scar on the tip where it folded over they were able to glue it back together but I have a constant reminder, it’s kinda numb I just figured I would want one also after showing my wife the demo video of the saw stop then showing her my finger again

@lehnertz85 Жыл бұрын

I love my Dewalt 7480. I've had it since 2016 and have no issues. It has a 10in blade. It cuts everything I need it to. I was thinking about getting the Sawstop, but it doesn't seem to justify the price. I would probably look at the contractor saw instead. While not exactly the same, for me, the saw just sits on a custom bench I made. So, it's basically just a stationary saw for me anyways. I was thinking while watching the video that Sawstop should have just partnered with Dewalt for their small saw. Give the Dewalt a sawstop break. That would be a great small saw!

@barrypolis6720 Жыл бұрын

Great objective review. One quick point - I used to have the 10" DeWalt table saw (DW745), and loved it. I moved up to the SawStop CNS for multiple reasons (certainly safety). The blade that came with the SS was "less than adequate." I installed the Forrest Woodworker II blade that came off my DeWalt, and the difference was night and day on the SawStop. The DeWalt you reviewed won't accept those high end blades, which don't come in proprietary sizes (at least not that I've seen). Big point, IMHO, since the Forrest blade literally erased that "resistance" you experienced.

@artv4nd3l4y 4 ай бұрын

LMAO the SawStop can't even give you a decent blade on a $900 overpriced saw, that's rich!

@bkp100 4 ай бұрын

@@artv4nd3l4y Haters will hate. I've had both. The DeWalt doesn't come close. Deal with it.

@artv4nd3l4y 4 ай бұрын

@@bkp100Yeah you looked like the type of guy that needs that sort of thing, make sure to update your pronouns too friend, bad things can happen otherwise, and enjoy the table saw.

@bkp100 4 ай бұрын

@@artv4nd3l4y Yeah... and you're the type of guy that resorts to personal BS when you have nothing substantive to respond with... oh, I don't do pronouns, genius...

@ericwilliams538 Жыл бұрын

For those who are starting out with wood working, and need to find a good affordable, reliable table saw... I highly recommend the newer Craftsmen 10 inch table saw ( I don't know the model number right off hand. I do know there are two newer models out. The 10 inch, and a smaller job site saw. I do not know the blade size off hand).. I been using it quite a bit here lately installing hard wood flooring. The fence is actually pretty impressive and the blade that comes with the saw is surprisingly good...From my experience.. Keep in mind, it only has standard safety features that come with most table saws. I completely understand that Saw Stop has an amazing safety feature on it... I just thought I would make a suggestion for an affordable reliable table saw.... When I bought it, I paid right around $219.00 I believe. Prices may vary a little now.

@howardcrow 5 ай бұрын

Same blade would help a lot

@leiwa100 Жыл бұрын

I had to do the math since a 10" blade would have a higher speed at same rpm as an 8 1/4" blade. I calculated about 176 ft/sec for the 10" blade at 4000 rpm, and 206 ft/sec for the 8 1/4" blade at 5800 rpm. So that explains why the Dewalt saw feels smoother. Would be next to impossible to test, but maybe the lower rpm helps with wear & tear over time?

@noelv1976 Жыл бұрын

Been using a cheap Ryobi table saw. Time for an upgrade!

@slove120031 Жыл бұрын

I have the dewalt 10" and with respect to the onboarding tool storage I would prefer the way dewalt does it. Mainly because I dont have to take a box out and use workbench space. Just something I didn't hear you mention.

@jewdd1989 Жыл бұрын

I wish you’d review the SkilSaw Worm Drive SPT99-11! Your review on the Skil recently got me to look at it and this more expensive version. Would love your opinion on it

@slimdout Жыл бұрын

I have the Dewalt 10" saw, $600. Most of what that Sawstop offers is negated or exceeded by stepping up to the larger Dewalt saw. It can take a dado stack, and only still lacks the micro adjust. for a 3-400 price difference, it's even more lopsided, imo. The Sawstop offers the brake cartridge, really, and thats all.

@squarelevelplumb 6 ай бұрын

I have a Milwaukee battery operated table saw with an 8 1/4 blade and have had no issues whatsoever ever. The blade stops in under a second when turned off, it will also hold a Dado set, and has all of the features of the Dewalt saw and it's price is in between the two price points show here.

@inkandbarrel 5 ай бұрын

On the Sawstop CTS... I have one. One thing to note: if you get an out of box failure, Dewalt will do an exchange. Sawstop will NOT. I experienced the difference. While I like the saw, the nearly 2 weeks of downtime while holidays, weekends, shipping and my time to install the repair parts was frustrating (blade couldn't lift). Honestly, I don't know that I would do it again, simply do to the lost opportunity from buying it, due to losing a 3 day weekend set aside for projects and the hours sent in doing the repair.

@am2dan Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see a comparison between the Skil table saw you reviewed and the latest Hercules saw. I ditched my Hercules for the Skil based on reviews by you and others, but that was an older iteration that could not be fine tuned and did not have the rack-n-pinion fence. The latest Hercules has that fence now, but I don't know whether there are mechanisms for the blade and fence to be finely aligned with the miter slots. The inability to get the blade absolutely parallel to the miter was what killed that previous iteration of Hercules for me.

@LoganLovell Жыл бұрын

Personally, I run everything DeWalt. They make quality tools that get the job done (calm down Milwaukee fans, I didn't say your tools were worse - they're good too) but when it comes to table saws, I'll always run a SawStop. Sure you can do everything to be safe on any saw, but there will always be risk, which is why I like the additional safety that comes with a SawStop. I'd rather have to re-cut a piece or replace a blade than go to ER to stitch up a stub where my finger once was. I do still absolutely agree that for that price, they should be sending a better blade, have a longer warranty, etc. The safety feature is worth the additional price, but that's no excuse to cut cost elsewhere.

@michaelpederson8883 10 ай бұрын

One thought, if you are going to do a 10" vs. 8.25" saw comparison, & bring up rpm vs. torque, some comment or information on the geometric effects on radial tooth speed &/or leverage arm torque would help. Great video, thanks. As another commentator pointed out there is also a change in area of blade contact and possibly # of teeth?

@BrianRodecker225 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Matt. I definitely think the cost of the brake system is well worth and I’m definitely going with saw stop one of these days. Keep up the great work

@robertzarfas9556 Жыл бұрын

We’ll shoot I just started saving for my first real table saw and now I don’t know what to get. Do a short comparing the Dewalt to the skil 10” that you recommended earlier.

@thebeehivenailsmshunnybrow9641 Жыл бұрын

Wowzers! Do yall see this guy?! He picked them both up at the same time. More like Mr. Muscle-works. 🤣💪🏽🤣💪🏽🤣 Thanks for sharing!

@Rishain 5 ай бұрын

Yes

@dt76sf 7 ай бұрын

FYI You should bring up the fact that a 10” blade and 8” blade spinning at the same rpm will have totally different “rim speeds”. 10” blade will have higher speed at the rim and more teeth passing thru the cut point than a smaller diameter blade. So it’s not just rpm you should consider Good solid review thanks

@azpilotd4351 4 ай бұрын

As an airline pilot that likes to dabble in woodworking, the extra money is worthy its weight in gold. $600 vs a career earnings loss isnt even a second thought. I like your insurance comparison and I think everyone who can reasonably afford this safety feature should get it. Even better, we need to mandate saws come with some version of this going forward.

@JackRockBLC Жыл бұрын

I have the 10" version of the DeWalt, and it DOES take a dado stack, up to 13/16", according to the manual (I haven't tried a dado yet, just got it last weekend). Mine also came with a folding stand, so the saw is a much higher price than $300 ($650, currently). I need transportability due to my shop setup, so a folding/rolling stand is a MUST for me. And the Sawstop equivalent is higher still by more than $1000 (because of the higher cost, and additional shipping I'd have to pay). Almost $2k by the time it's all said and done.

@luke-guitarist Жыл бұрын

I really really like my Dewalt saw.

@am2dan Жыл бұрын

The blade height could make a big difference in a small shop like mine. Without a band saw the table saw is my only way to resaw boards. (Can't do what Wood by Wright does by hand!) With a 3-1/8 deep cut you can resaw a 6-1/4 inch board vs 5 inches with a 2-1/2 inch deep cut (cutting from each side). That could make a difference on some projects, including my most recent. A band saw would be nice, especially for the thin, smooth kerf, but if you're talking tools for a budget, a band saw with a 6"+ resaw capacity is going to not be real cheap from what I see.

@michaelwillcutt2619 Жыл бұрын

I haven’t had many problems with corded DeWalt tools but the batteries for basic battery operated tools is I have more defective batteries than any other brand we own craftsman Milwaukee, Rigid , Mikita

@aswartz5925 2 ай бұрын

Might be worth trying a few spritzes of silicone lubricant on those cams on the Sawstop to see if that helps the fence move more freely.

@FixItFrench Жыл бұрын

That adjustment knob on the angel wheel (on the saw stop) is one of the best features I’ve ever seen on a table saw. I think the saw stop is a better saw, it’s hard to say that it’s $600 better. If you get a new blade for each saw I think saw stop would be even better

@robertwinston2496 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic comparison. I find it interesting that even the Jobsite saw from sawstop also runs at 4000rpm. Do we know if they share the same motor (1.5hp)? The sawstop website doesn't call out a power rating on the new compact saw. If you were to replace the blade on the sawstop, which one would you recommend? Are most sawblades compatible to sawstop's brake technology?

@MrPhil1st Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the in depth comparison. I wonder, at 14:39, what's the name of that song? Can't figure out where I heard that, but it rings a bell and I'd like to find-it :)

@edwardcook3716 Жыл бұрын

I think you could have made observations about performance a lot better by splitting up your test methods into 2 parts - first with the saws with the delivered saw blades, and then a second test with equivalent blades. As one of the other commenters mentioned, switching to a quality blade (Forrest in his case) made all the difference, and would have made for a more informative test. Overall I find your channel and tests very helpful - keep up the good work

@Gixer750pilot Жыл бұрын

Saw stop should licence out that technology to all manufacturers!!!

@libertarian1637 Жыл бұрын

I love the DeWalt battery table saw. It’s 8-1/4” and is a great portable saw. I have switched to nearly all battery tools for my job site tools and haven’t looked back. Batteries are just so convenient as you never have to look for a receptacle. I also have the 10” DeWalt which along with their portable power pack allows it to run off batteries as well and allows for running dado blades. This really isn’t a fair comparison as DeWalt makes a compact table saw which also accepts a 10” blade; these 8-1/4” saws are really more of a sub-compact that can be put right on a table or floor close to where you’re working.

@thomasdesalle9183 Жыл бұрын

I wish the sawstop was available in the UK. I can only found it for about 3000$ with stands... Don't understand why, they would sell tons it looks so good

@MTMXBL Жыл бұрын

Can you comment on the table flatness of each saw?

@hardwhitewolf4925 Жыл бұрын

Would have compared it with the 10in version dewalt. More capable than the saw stop shown. 32in rip capable, works with dato stacks. And is still cheaper than the saw stop. I do wish it would have a micro angle adjustment. But it's a great saw. I like the added safety feature of the saw stop but it's not a must have IMHO. Definitely something someone has to think about.

@gulzeb Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Typo: barley instead of barely, at the very end

@731Woodworks Жыл бұрын

Ahh 🤦🏻‍♂️

@MickyMouseLimited Жыл бұрын

Can you use after market blades on saw stop.

@NirvanaWoodWorksbyJanie Жыл бұрын

Could you do a comparison/review of the Bosch Reaxx Jobsite Table Saw vs The SawStop Jobsite? The Bosch is also flesh sensing & 10in saw

@bucknboard Жыл бұрын

I have the Dewalt as well. Folks should know that you are restricting cut thickness when you add a crosscut sled to the equation. Overall It is a great saw and would recommend upgrading from the stock blade to the Dewalt 40T combo blade. Be aware that most after market 8 1/4” blades do not work with the riving knives that come with the saw. Great review sir.

@ancienttom97 Жыл бұрын

I'm wondering why you chose the 8 inch DeWalt saw instead of the 10 inch to compare to the SawStop? That would have been a better comparison, I think. The 8 inch is to the SawStop like apples is to oranges.

@brandonhoffman4712 4 ай бұрын

Well they make it again. Did the world really think Dewalt left the 10" table saw market?

@JimTFlynn Жыл бұрын

I have 10” version of Dewalt. The fence is great, no issues with power. BUT dialing in a bevel cut is a pain. You can set limits at 90 and 45 but I would say they are positive “stops” because you could be just short of the limit and not know it. Getting a perfect 90 or 45 is finicky. I also noticed my dust collection hose fits snugly on the dust port (good thing) but I think the action of putting the hose on and off has moved the housing so the blade is no longer parallel to miter slots. Easy fix but annoying.

@brucehansen7949 Жыл бұрын

I'll second this statement, it's impossible to get a perfect 45 cut, if you do... you got lucky or need to teach me how