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BEST SYNTH TO BUY IN 2024

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Vulture Culture

Vulture Culture

Күн бұрын

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@GrooveSynthesisMark
@GrooveSynthesisMark 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for including us on your list! We're honored. We love what we're doing and your support means everything to us!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Really excited about what you guys are doing! Thank you for giving the world the 3rd Wave! 🌊
@JohnnyADi
@JohnnyADi Ай бұрын
Bought one, in my opinion its better than the udo super gemini as its significantly more flexible and is the dream synth, and ive heard they are industry leading in updating their gear.
@WayOfFire
@WayOfFire 7 ай бұрын
Thanks man, I haven't watched your channel before but this has to be the most comprehensive synth of the year guide I've ever seen. It looks like you've pretty much got everything covered at every price point. I'll definitely check out more of your channel and at the very least I'll be back next year to check out what's the best of the best. Great job.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much and welcome! I always do a livestream every Wednesday so please stop by if you can and say hi 👋
@joseluisnunes7128
@joseluisnunes7128 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for such a perfect and clear analysis. A hug from Portugal👌👍🎹
@FM-kl7oc
@FM-kl7oc 7 ай бұрын
Imagine if Roland released a proper analog modern Juno 60/106 in the same spirit like when Sequential released a proper analog modern Prophet-5/10. I think Roland would sell quite many of them.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
They would murder it. I think the problems they had with the JD-Xa turned them off from trying analog again.
@Agoraphobia2day333
@Agoraphobia2day333 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture still love the XA
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
JDXA is an under-looked upon monster
@Mercy_Pants
@Mercy_Pants 7 ай бұрын
If Roland released a new version of the JD-XA with 10 analog voices. It would be game over for a lot of other synths
@TheBebe666
@TheBebe666 7 ай бұрын
@@chokocat9064 Yup..100% true.
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 7 ай бұрын
My favorite synth gear: Studio centerpiece: Akai Force. Polysynth: Hydrasynth (any). Monosynth: Sequential Pro 3. Acoustic / expressive instrument: Expressive-E Osmose. Portable: Dirtywave M8. Best way to start a song: hum a song idea into a phone. Notable mentions: Boss RC-505 Mk2, Novation Peak/Summit, 3rd Wave, PWM Malevolent, Arturia Microfreak / Minifreak / Minibrute 2, Haken Continuum, Nonlinear Labs C15.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Great list! C15 is an awesome muscle car of a synth!
@ToyKeeper
@ToyKeeper 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCultureIn addition to my music production desk, I'd love to set up a practice / performance / meditation area with an Osmose, RC-505, mic, and Wavedrum. But not until/unless I somehow end up with lots of free time and cash. 😅
@tron944
@tron944 7 ай бұрын
Roland’s “older”ACB technology sounds much better than their modern Zen Core.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Agreed
@JobimSynthMusic
@JobimSynthMusic 7 ай бұрын
Roland sounds better and better the older the synth
@bat-powmusic4925
@bat-powmusic4925 7 ай бұрын
I own several ACB- & Zencore-machines - they all sound great. Maybe 1:1 recreation of analog classics is 5-10 % better with ACB. But then again you have more voices and way more FX in Zencore-devices.
@PabloInformation
@PabloInformation 7 ай бұрын
5-10 % is the general sound difference amount were playing with between analog and their vst emulations for the last decade . what im saying is its a huge/ all the difference that remains in modern comparison terms and is all the reason to buy one over the other ...more polyphony is a trivial and largely unnecessary feature by comparison in 2024 @@bat-powmusic4925
@lumpichu
@lumpichu 7 ай бұрын
My dream synth is still the Iridium (keyboard). It not only sounds from another world, but also looks great and that's an understatement.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Iridium is the price point I like Waldorf at
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 7 ай бұрын
It does have its glitches though.
@PrinceAmac
@PrinceAmac Ай бұрын
Random comment. Broke out my Roland VSynth GT after two years. My god. Forgot how incredible this thing sounds and is so incredibly expressive if you’re a player.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
I've got to try a V-synth out at some point!
@SuperChaoticus
@SuperChaoticus 6 ай бұрын
Roland has been living off it's past glory for what seems like years. It feels like so much of their gear is trying to drag us back to the 80s instead of propelling us forward.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Big agree.
@AndrewColyerMusic
@AndrewColyerMusic 7 ай бұрын
Great job on this video! Favorite recommendation - Studiologic SLEDGE!! YES!! That thing sounds fantastic, and the FEEL is AMAZING. Thank you so much for that one! Keep up the good work here on your channel. 😀
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Love to hear from the Sledge people! 🖤
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 7 ай бұрын
Fatar rules Synth key beds. I can’t seem to part with my Kawai 5000s which I almost hate but it has midi and can run a Blofeld desktop which is also hate worthy. I have thought of gutting the Kawai and plopping the Keybed in an old Akai AX60 but realized I could find simple controllers with Fatar keys and gut those.
@AndrewColyerMusic
@AndrewColyerMusic 7 ай бұрын
@@frankstetka7206 - DUDE just spend the $900, get the Studiologic Sledge, and be done with it! 😀
@EannaButler
@EannaButler 6 ай бұрын
❤ for the Waldorf sound!
@giles3211
@giles3211 27 күн бұрын
There truly was a golden age of synths … something was in the air, the componentry was all ultra-hifi quality, and the circuit boards built by hand, sometimes even by their designers (Moog, Dave Smith …). A million little things + insane passion and competition, plus all sorts of happy accidents, and we got an explosion of awesomeness. There is NO DOUBT that instruments of this era were/are peerless and probably irreproducible … literally like Stradivarius or Guarneri violins. EMS-VCS3, CS-80, P5 & P10, OBx, PPG Wave, and of course the various early Moogs and modulars … Not a single synth since ~1980 (with the exception of the ultra-cool & quirky Buchla modular line) has had anywhere close to the soul these things possessed. It’s a classic story of hand-built-boutique excellence Vs mass-produced garbage. I sure hope someone has a few of each in a temperature & humidity-controlled vault so that posterity can have a shot at reproducing the music made with these crazy beasts!!!
@cmaynes
@cmaynes 7 ай бұрын
the one machine I think you should really have included was the Synclavier Regen- it is an extraordinary machine (with poly pressure) and is insanely flexible as a synth.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Can't believe I missed that one! You're totally right!
@EnervatedSociety
@EnervatedSociety 7 ай бұрын
I've already heard the UB-Xa coming from just regular people. I've even heard blind tests with the OB-X8, OB-6 and UB-Xa. I saw people fail that blind test miserably, including myself. The UB-Xa really does sound great. The build quality is solid by all accounts. Metal and wood, plastic pots similar to a Nord Lead and It's got some weight to it. The keybed has been described as something like the OB-6, but with PAT but keybed feel is subjective so who knows how it will feel to you. The weakest part of the build that I can see is the detachable knobs imo. They're just plain plastic, nothing fancy but they work. If you want fancier knobs that's easy to acquire online and it's not much money at all. Given how the rest of the synth is built I'm surprised they cheaped out on the knobs. Maybe they had tons of them, I don't know. Surprisingly no one has yet complained about any bugs. Usually that comes right away. Someone over at GS replaced the screen already, multiple times, in multiple colors. There's pictures and an explanation how to. It came out really nice. The GS user went with white on black which imo looks the best and fits the UB-Xa's look better than the stock red screen. Weird choice that. I've very patient when it come to buying synths. Truth is I just don't need any more, but I gotta say the UB-Xa has exceeded my expectations, build wise, sound wise, and feature wise. I'll likely pick it up because as far as can tell it's a steal. I also really like the way it sounds and I don't have that color in my palette currently. Does it sound exactly 1:1 like my favorite synth of all time, the Oberheim OB-Xa? Flat out NO, but neither does the OB-X8 or OB-6 which are the other options, both of which Ive owned. It comes just as close as either of these imo. The blind test certainly suggest as much. Bias is a tricky mofo.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I think the OB-X8 nails the OB-Xa sound, Marcus Ryle's video comparing the presets is pretty insane. Thank you for your input! Looking forward to trying out one myself.
@Tutorius
@Tutorius 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture The price for the UB-XA is totally insane. It is 1275 Euros in germany... Thats about 1400 in Dollars, i think. But too expensive for me...
@EnervatedSociety
@EnervatedSociety 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I saw that video. He kept it petty simple and yes the simpler stock presets matched pretty well, but not all of them. It's easier to tell in the heavily modulated sounds. Every comparison I've seen so far I've noticed the presenter will say something along the lines of: I could have matched it or gotten closer if . . . and then they move on. Honestly that was my experience as well, only I did try and never quite got there. Maybe that's just me and they could. Maybe it doesn't matter to some people. But that's thing, you don't have to try with an OB-Xa. It's naturally wild like that, and the X8 is very controlled, as it should be imo. At least in my experience and from what I've seen in others. I toss it up to different times, different tech, plus those 40+ years. Whatever it is, I personally love it. Also, is it just me or does anyone else notice the X8 has this, for lack of a better description, hi-fi sheen to it? I think so. Great sounding synth regardless but in the end I couldn't stomach the premium knowing what I know. Kinda felt like how things are in the fashion world, if you catch my drift. 😉 Branding baby.
@marcusholder495
@marcusholder495 7 ай бұрын
A very cool wise person
@JunkSoap
@JunkSoap 3 ай бұрын
That's a fair list... I would have just seen the modwave, iridium, prophetX somewhere... Modwave for beginners, prophetX because it's a very special kind of synth, and Iridium, because, man that synth is so deep !!!! As for MPE, owning both a seaboard and osmose, osmose is great, but there's a bunch of things I can do with the seaboard and not with osmose... Maybe a soft synth section, workstation section, and controller section some day too :) But you sir deifinitely know what you're talking about...
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 3 ай бұрын
I've gotten quite a few comments saying the seaboard is superior! So I'll take that into account for next year's video
@JohnathanOGilvie
@JohnathanOGilvie Ай бұрын
Sledge is truly slept on you can get crazy nice sounds and it just looks cool af
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
For sure! Any other faves?
@connor_flanigan
@connor_flanigan 7 ай бұрын
they should find a way to package your amazing voice and beard and put it in a synth
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Working on it!
@sunnypedaal
@sunnypedaal 6 ай бұрын
Moog grandmother, everybody deserves at least one .❤🌞
@andybside
@andybside 7 ай бұрын
No mention of the Udo Super 6? I'm shocked. That synth is pure art. And we can absolutely thank Behringer for all these cheaper synths these days.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Super 6 is awesome! I simply reserved talking about Udo until the Gemini. Agree about Behringer but the effect is at least debatable. There are cheaper synths than ever but also much more expensive synths than ever. You could say it's done more to assassinate the mid-range lol.
@andybside
@andybside 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I see your point. But not even an honorable mention? It's a smaller company and for the work they did, I feel they should be on everyone's list. 😁
@andybside
@andybside 7 ай бұрын
Oh, I was actually referring to the super Gemini. 😁
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I did mention the Gemini lol
@andybside
@andybside 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture oh my God. Lol. Im an idiot. Sorry dude. Haha.
@odmusicman
@odmusicman 7 ай бұрын
Studiologic Sledge is pretty ancient tech, but their keybeds are awesome.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
It is - but I think it still sounds good!
@user-jy3io4iz2p
@user-jy3io4iz2p 4 күн бұрын
As a beginner with serious intentions and or potential consider the Roland Fantom 06, Korg Nautilus 61 and Yamaha MODX6 they go between €1250-1750 and are great bread butter synths to have as a basis of your set up. To later add water with FM, wavetable, VA, analog etc. Owning a synth like this is fundamental to me. If you're not into bread or butter but wanna play the "I am different" part I'd check on the GAIA 2 from Roland and KingKorg NEO. Got a Jupiter 50 (bread & butter), a KingKorg 61 keys (VA) and Roland SH-4d as a TR-8s. Total damage about $ 3250 with a Tascam 24 track mixer/recorder and monitors.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 күн бұрын
That's a very different (but very valid) approach than what I would consider recommending - do you think most beginners would find the workstations challenging?
@user-jy3io4iz2p
@user-jy3io4iz2p 3 күн бұрын
@@VultureCulture Workstations with lineair sequencer are challenging I think. As a beginner a step sequencer would be in general a better approach (for me). What was missing when I started was information that was correct, even subjective information can be helpfull if interpreted the right way. It boils down to two things. Do you want to play or want to learn synthesis and make a choice based on that.
@zap7759
@zap7759 7 ай бұрын
-Best synths ($hi and lo) 🌝 Mono: SCI Pro-3 and Novation BS2 Poly: Iridium Keys and Hydra Explorer Drum: Nord Drum 3P and Volca Drum Honorable mentions are DB Nymphes and ASol Colossus.
@Curious_Skeptic
@Curious_Skeptic 7 ай бұрын
Hydra top for build quality!
@zap7759
@zap7759 7 ай бұрын
​@@Curious_SkepticThe original is pretty beefy for a modern synth. Probably too heavy for a lot of keyboard trays on small and medium sized desks.
@zap7759
@zap7759 7 ай бұрын
And for the viewers, this isn't a Vulture-Approved list 😆
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
BS2 is such a great synth! I should definitely have it on the list for one of the years. SCI Pro-3 is beyond awesome but expensive enough that I didn't think I could put it on this list for the list of features.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I approve this list 😂
@aditivienna2194
@aditivienna2194 7 ай бұрын
Minifreak at home, microfreak outside. Both synths are monsters for that price. ❤
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Insane, insane value.
@enochroot9438
@enochroot9438 7 ай бұрын
Nice guide, at the end of the day, choose well what you can afford and what suits your needs and you can't go wrong
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Agreed! So many incredible options out there nowadays!
@enochroot9438
@enochroot9438 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture also loved your personal recommendations. Didn't even know about the sledge but will check it out...I'm a big fan of the Wavestates & Hydrasynths, also the Terra looks interesting although I just picked up a Plinky synth which has that expressive touch vibe too ( very lucky to get hold of one with the demand /supply situation around it)
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@enochroot9438 I need to check out the Plinky! Haven't heard of it!
@-KingOfKhaos
@-KingOfKhaos 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the list! 👍🏻 The MiniFreak is already on my short list after using it in V Collection X… that sold it for me right there… seeing it talked about here means it’s being ordered tonight 😂
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I wish Arturia would pay me a commission for the number of synths I've sold 😂
@marcusholder495
@marcusholder495 7 ай бұрын
A very cool choice 😎 👌 👍🏽
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 7 ай бұрын
@frankstetka7206 0 seconds ago Oh yeah I am probably going down that road by also picking up the mini. At first I thought the micro was a bit shrill and thin on some factory patches but I dig in and it turns out to have some heft for what it is. I love my old Arturia mini brute duo but one bad pitch wheel pot and all decomposing rubber knobs are beyond irritating. I’m replacing all of them and feel that same fate will occur to the Freq’s.
@peppersantiago7995
@peppersantiago7995 6 ай бұрын
The background music makes the video unwatchable for me. I wish I could have gotten the information that seems to be very comprehensive, though. Maybe, think about making a another version without audio
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Appreciate your criticism 🙏
@uglymob591
@uglymob591 6 ай бұрын
Your such a party pooper bro…synth music playing in the background of a synth video seems appropriate to me 🤷🏾‍♂️🤣
@uglymob591
@uglymob591 6 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulturethanks for the info bro…we appreciate the work you put in
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
@uglymob591 really appreciate you 🙏🙏
@synthmania7275
@synthmania7275 5 ай бұрын
@@uglymob591I agree 👍!! Love your work @vultureculture :)
@stevencohen5116
@stevencohen5116 6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite synth rundown video ever. You covered a lot of ground, and the video had a snappy good pace to it. The best part is that you covered plenty of the synths I’ve had my eye on, which was nice to see all in one place, and there were good surprises. Now I gotta get more work so I can try to get a little something here and there. Thanks, and for me, this was a nicely produced video.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the positivity 🙏 I'm glad you found this video helpful and invite you to check out one of the live streams I do every Wednesday at 9 pm est - we've got a really awesome community over there 🍻
@stevencohen5116
@stevencohen5116 6 ай бұрын
Will check the live stream out! Thanks!
@synlfo7828
@synlfo7828 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video. On a slight tangent. I have never gotten a beringher product. Recently I needed a mini mixer. Got 2 mackies and they were doa. Got a beringher that was cheaper, working like a charm and build quality is decent. My only experience with them and it was good. Can't say anything about the keyboards though.
@JeremyParkerMusic
@JeremyParkerMusic 7 ай бұрын
Wow @vultureculture that is a comprehensive look at all the categories one could be interested in! Great job, and I definitely wasn't so familiar with many of these, so it'll be a good reference for me moving forward this year. Personally, I have the 3rd Wave in my sights, but I need to make room in the studio and budget first!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Good to hear from you homie! 🍾🎇 3rd Wave is insanely powerful but *not cheap*!
@LawrenceWidarto
@LawrenceWidarto 7 ай бұрын
I think people slept on Drumlogue because it's not that intuitive to use. That is my personal take on it. Most drum machines you can use out of the box without reading the manual. The Drumlogue, you need to read the manual cuz its a bit of a menu divey for a drum machine.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
For sure. For me, menu-divey is okay in proportion to what you can do with it. Sometimes menu diving is just a chore for basic features.
@etcot8220
@etcot8220 18 күн бұрын
You forgot one that I will not disclose until I get my hand on one of them. It absolutely deserves to be in this video and I don’t know why it was not. Small hint, it launches in 2024, so its new . Edit / I just realized the video was made prior to launch, mybad.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 14 күн бұрын
Still looking forward to finding out what the synth is!
@etcot8220
@etcot8220 14 күн бұрын
@@VultureCulture alright, since you replied I’ll mention it. Its not a big secret in the semi mod/ mod synths category. The Volt lab 2 from Pittsburg Modular is quite interesting but there’s so much great new stuff that is getting released that idk if it will end up in your best of this current year. What do you think?
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 7 ай бұрын
Excellent run through. Have to say, I love the sound of the Nymphes every time I hear it. Dreadbox seem to be very good at getting grit and character. Tempting. I already have the Take 5, and it always sounds gorgeous. That Nina would also be awesome. It’s got the sound and the power. As far as a good groove box, the Synthstrom Deluge is a monster. Various synth engines, incredible workflow. It also has a sanctioned open source version now which has been adding some crazy features. Everything unlimited, only bound by CPU.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I definitely need to expand my horizons when it comes to groove boxes. I think next year I'll have a more nuanced take on the subject - need to check out Deluge because it looks insane!
@marvinjones4415
@marvinjones4415 Ай бұрын
This was an awesome roundup! GAWD, I wish I could afford a Super Gemini!!!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
Talk about a beautiful monster!! Any synths you're thinking about getting?
@marvinjones4415
@marvinjones4415 Ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I already have the Microfreak. Its an amazing swiss-army-knife of a synth! Korg Drumlogue is interesting as well as the Dreadbox Nymphes
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
All three are really strong picks!
@themurph
@themurph 7 ай бұрын
When my favorite synth-fluencer speaks, I listen 👑
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Means a lot coming from The Muthafucking Murph! 🌄🎹👾
@mrdavies7894
@mrdavies7894 Ай бұрын
Great list with lots of nice surprises! I have to give my 2¢ on the Juno-X, though. I was one of those that rode the hype wave when it came out and bought one the first moment I was able to (~Feb 2023). I had it for 2~3 months and loved certain aspects of it (my 7-y-o daughter loved the vocoder 😍, the "M" filter was a super nifty alternative, &c) but ended up selling it because, with _ALL_ that other stuff (like you were saying!), it just did _NOT_ have the Juno-106 mojo that I was looking to recapture (that was my first synth, ~1986). But now I find myself missing the -X for several reasons. Philosophically, I realised that Roland was selling - and I had bought - something it would never be. So, adjusting that understanding and expectation made me realise all the things that it actually _is_ . Thus, pragmatically, it turns out to be a really useful and practical "all in one" synth that I intend to buy again (unless I find a better alternative) because of the following features: - Built-in speakers. Yes, they sound like crap. Yes, they are not loud. I dig the philosophy of putting them in (an "instrument" should "make sound" without external amplification and because of the haptic feedback they provide) but practically, it's just super convenient, as a keyboardist, to be able to bring a full-featured synth to a a buddy's house or a jam session or whatever and not have to bring a PA with it! - Build quality: It really feels like a $2k synth. It's solid without being unnecessarily heavy, fantastic keybed, all the controls feel solid and premium, &c. - Yes, playing a RD-Piano on a Juno-shaped box is weird. But same as above; being able to bring a decent sounding piano to a jam session or whatever without lugging the other 27 keys plus 27 lbs (plus PA…), or a separate sound module &c, is just super handy. - The foregoing arguments would generally lead one toward an arranger-style keyboard and that's not the wrong conclusion. But I have yet to find an arranger that has the right combination of features at the right price that I would _also use anywhere else_ , like back in my studio! Even if it just sat there doing nothing, the -X is a nice piece of eye candy for current and prospective clients (this is a similar argument for my Moog Subsequent 37). But it _wouldn't_ just sit there because (like the '37) it can not only bring its own unique voice to the table but (one of the under-rated features of both of these examples) it has a _lot_ of juice as a MIDI controller! Not to mention the tons of effects, external audio input/processing, USB audio, class-compliant interface, &c &c &c. - And, of course, I just can't deny the emotional connexion to "the Juno look". I mean, it's just one of those ultimate examples, like a Minimoog or Prophet 5, of "this is what a synth looks like"! All that said, there are definitely some things that still piss me off about it: - Where are the freakin' D-50 patches / Model Expansion, Roland?! - The Roland Cloud has yet to make the world a better place. - Menu-diving colour-coded button programming nightmare when not in "Juno mode"… where 90% of the instrument's potential is "not Juno mode". I was constantly having to re-learn how to interpret which mode I was in and how to get anywhere therein and being colour-blind only made it ten times worse! In fairness, I was thinking of it, again, in terms of being "a Juno". I don't think the workflow would be so difficult if I thought of it in terms of a "do-it-all" synth (or, at least, the difficulty would be more justified! ;). - The I-Arp and step sequencer are cool but it would be _really_ nice to have a more fully-featured sequencer or song recorder, especially since it's 5-part multi-timbral!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
Fantastic comment 👏 I wonder if you'd prefer a fantom 6 over the Juno x. I think I'd prefer the additional controls you get with the fantom over the restrictive UI of the X. But I understand the nostalgic connection to the Juno look. Let me know how it goes and what you end up purchasing!
@mrdavies7894
@mrdavies7894 Ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Thanks! Yeah, the Fantom is really nice, great feature set, &c. For me, though, it's too much overlap with my K2700 and - I know it's silly - but I'm really stuck on the built-in speakers thing! The best alternative I can think of is the Korg SP2-73SP, which is definitely a strong contender for the purposes. But I'll let you know how it plays out! :)
@Garnassium
@Garnassium 7 ай бұрын
To me the best value is with the Behringer pro-800 (but your what you said about build quality makes sense).
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
It was a toss up between Nymphes and Pro-800. At only $500 I think the Nymphes is going to go on to be considered a classic.
@BigMuff520
@BigMuff520 7 ай бұрын
This is an excellent list of a lot of synths work trying. I do not need anymore gear, but it’s time to add a Dreadbox piece to my set up sometime this year.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I think it would be worth it - Dreadbox stuff sounds so feral lol
@jamest.135
@jamest.135 7 ай бұрын
I own a Sledge and use to own a hydrasynth and was very pleased the sledge picked up a recommendation as it's a very versatile amazing sounding synth. I sold my hydrasynth despite having the absolute best time programming it for one reason. Only. It didn't sound like anything to me. The sound despite its best attempts didn't sound analog and it didn't sound ice pick digital either. After months of using it and programming and enjoying it, I found I couldn't use it in my songs because it didn't really stand out as anything. So I sold it. I do miss it it from time to time though. Now the sledge, that is not going anywhere. You can legit make it sound indistinguishable from a real moog. I had a basic moog bass set up on the subsequent and the same on the sledge, identical. Honestly don't know how they pulled that off. The Sledge is staying forever or until it catches on fire.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Everyone who has a Sledge says something similar! You're not the first to point out the Hydra's "neutral" sound - not everyone's cup of tea. Virus's kind of have the same issue.
@zap7759
@zap7759 7 ай бұрын
Yeah synths with any kind of VA labeling like the Blofeld engine sound better than straight up digital polys for classic subtractive sounds. Nord Lead A1 and 4 sound way, way warmer/analog.
@LunchBandit
@LunchBandit 7 ай бұрын
You should have a, "best sequencer" category and just nominate all the elektron boxes.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely should do that next year 😂
@xntricity6446
@xntricity6446 7 ай бұрын
The Novation summit is a titan of a Synth for sure. It's incredible and under rated. The Gemeni is definitely a dream Synth, if you won some money it might be the way to go.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, just a real muscle car of a synth. Any other synths you'd recommend?
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 7 ай бұрын
Roland could learn something from Novation. Novation actually listened to their customers and keeps improving products.
@mhoppy6639
@mhoppy6639 6 ай бұрын
“Coming in at just $1000.00”. Sorry but I had to take out a mortgage just to watch this video list. There’s probably two products that I could afford here. Nothing wrong with admitting to being a retro synth “snob” l hope to revisit this next year and see a few more accessible bits and pieces. (Yes I know some of them are MEANT to be expensive) I also would have found it extremely helpful to have had some snippets of sound alongside the recommendations. But thank you for the effort in putting this together. I think I’m the wrong demographic/ market for this list!! All the best VC.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
What kind of synth are you looking for? There are a bunch of sub-1000 synths on this list
@JuanUys
@JuanUys 4 ай бұрын
31:07 yes, by replacing the pots with rotary LED (like Hydrasynth), so you can see all settings at a glance and in low light. I dont care too much about losing the force feedback (e.g continuous vs step knobs).
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
Fair point!
@SumnSumnSumnHTK
@SumnSumnSumnHTK 7 ай бұрын
I absolutely shouldn't get any more synths this year yet here I am thinking about what synths I'm going to get this year... 😂
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 same! What's caught your eye this year?
@SumnSumnSumnHTK
@SumnSumnSumnHTK 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture After finishing this video I realized I may have a problem. I own 4 synths on your list. lol I really want a sequential pro 3 and an arturia polybrute. Neither are in the video but 2 synths I've been wanting for awhile.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@SumnSumnSumnHTK they're both incredible synths that I never find a place to mention in these videos unfortunately. That "middle upper premium" synth range is harder to quantify than "best value" or "dest overall" lol
@lousyracuse
@lousyracuse 7 ай бұрын
Just found your page and subscribed right away. I had a D50 for over 25 years until its demise due to a power supply failure. The funny thing is, losing it is what brought me into the modern world of VSTs. I am about to sign up for Roland Cloud and will be picking up your D50 library when I do. I can't wait to see what treasures your video archive has in store for me. :)
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Awesome! Welcome to the community! 🙏🙏
@Farold_Haltermeyer
@Farold_Haltermeyer 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating watch, thank you! Gotta say that the Terra has been my revelation, using it for industrial and IDM styles, as it has reminded me that so many synths disconnect me from actually listening to the music rather than looking at the interface. Has made me play so differently, more about the tactile guitar expression...helps that it can sound utterly filthy and has some of the best reverb and delay on a synth I’ve heard in some time
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I really hope I get a chance to play one sometime! Such a one of a kind instrument! Any other favorites for industrial and IDM?
@Farold_Haltermeyer
@Farold_Haltermeyer 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I thought the MegaFM was going to be a gimmick...that thing has become a fantastic little box of raw edged, hands-on FM joy!
@keytronek
@keytronek Ай бұрын
I went back and watched this again. I agree with you regarding the Sledge 2.0. It's definitely a sleeper, and has provided endless inspiration for me over the last few years. There's plenty of used ones out there now and it would be a nice addition to someone's synth collection. I bought a used yellow one ($600) because I was reading a lot of posts regarding issues with the black one, and I'm not a fan of the gray/black keyboard. Regarding best buys, you can't beat the VST collections available now. For under $1000, you can grab the Arturia V Collection, which includes the MiniFreak, and Korg Collection, and have 52 classic and modern synths at your beck and call. Endless inspiration!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
I have both Korg and Arturia's collections and they're insanely good! I hadn't heard of issues with the black sledge, what kind of issues?
@keytronek
@keytronek Ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I’m a member of a few Sledge groups on FB, and the problems posted were OS boot up issues, the LCD screen blanking out and dead keys on the key bed.
@OWL.
@OWL. 7 ай бұрын
I must say, Behringer did an amazing job with JT4000. They've managed to create a little polysynth that sounds really good, and it only costs 49 bucks! The build quality is fantastic, and the navigation is so easy and intuitive. The screen is also worth noting, even though it's tiny, it's so clear and crispy (oled). Behringer really nailed this tiny form factor (same size as korg nts1).
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I actually usually do include Behringer every year: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obieaLeEzp-Ynqs.htmlsi=p7JyuP2jsndMD7Ja kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5qdlciKq56ue6c.htmlsi=e1I8h7nSxiNuSZua
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting me know! I was very very close to adding the JT to the list - I was worried about the build quality but it sounds like I shouldn't have been.
@teamphil
@teamphil 7 ай бұрын
The only thing I don’t like about the jt4000 is when trying to use a midi keyboard with it. You’ll need a usbc splitter for power and then a usbc to 5pin din adaptor, since most midi keyboards don’t have midi host function. I think it’s a great and fun little synth, but if you want to play with it with a midi keyboard and no computer, it’s a pain in the bum.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@teamphil that sucks! Thank you for the info! That's part of why I didn't mention it as the choice for beginner synth, although the price point is stellar.
@crhkrebs
@crhkrebs 7 ай бұрын
@@jocee2257what’s with the hostility? No one is forcing you to watch this channel.
@TJ-bx5px
@TJ-bx5px 5 күн бұрын
Roland SH4d will get cult status lik 808, 303. that synth is probably the best synth this decade under 1000 USD...
@muppetpaster
@muppetpaster 7 ай бұрын
4:50 For this price you can get the Behringer Neutron, keep 150 dollars in your pocket and still have a way more capable synth that does also do nearly everything this does.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
The Neutron is an awesome synth, no doubt, but it does not have an effects section like the Typhon does, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
@domingoleija3436
@domingoleija3436 7 ай бұрын
Glad ya finally caught on to MODAL even though they're apparently no longer. The modal 8 used would be a super and I'll put this against any $2000 synth 👑🎧🎼
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
They still exist! They're even planning on coming out with new synths. Currently restructuring: synthanatomy.com/2023/09/british-synth-company-modal-electronics-is-insolvent.html
@AJ_Reynolds
@AJ_Reynolds 7 ай бұрын
Behringer for the win!
@darkcognitive
@darkcognitive 4 ай бұрын
The Roli Seaboard 2 might take a while to get used to.....and talking from experience, it really does take a long time to get your hands and head around this thing, but after having it since launch (i was an early backer) some the the stuff you can do with acoustic style instruments including El electric guitars etc this thing is unbeatable and there's things you can do that you simple cant on the osmose. Want to take a C minor chord and hold all 3 fingers on the synth, slide your hand down or up , then slide left or right and drop it into another chord like a g major or literally anything you want, and you can do it, and while you're doing the sliding with your hand it's morphing the chord from c minor to g major. Speaking of Equator the software that comes with it, some of the sounds you can get out of equator are just absolutely insane. I have a 12" sub and 10" monitors......and holy crap the neighbours must think i have Hanz Zimmer in my room.....this thing creates some beastly sounds. Or, you want to play a fretless sounding bass, or acoustic guitar, amazing. You should google the guy playing purple rain on the original seaboard (and check his other songs, cant remember his name) and it sounds wild that he's able to get such expression from a synth. As for the Nina, defo a cool bit of kit, but the Polybrute 'morph' control IS actually moving each knobs "value" on the entire synth to go from patch A to B just like Nina, except with Nina, the knobs move, the Polybrutes don't. It's not morphing, or 'merging' the actual sound output together if you get my meaning. It's like someone with 100 hands moving all the knobs to a different setting at the rate(s) you choose, pretty cool stuff. I wish they moved like Nina so you can see what's happening but it's definitely the same thing and you can do it with polyphonic aftertouch in multiple ways , from the morphee to the keyboard or program it into the matrix and have that trigger a bunch of other things. My own take, I prefer the Brute, but would be much cooler if it had Nina style nob control, especially that notchy feeling it can produce etc, very versatile and you can see exactly where its set.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this in-depth comment! I'm hoping one day to get my hands on a seaboard
@treetopjones737
@treetopjones737 7 ай бұрын
For experimenting with modern non-traditional synth sounds ( wavetable, formant, and “vowel” for example ), the MicroFreak is a great low cost synth( again 4 voice limitation, and smaller touch surface keyboard ), and in the latest firmware update you can now indirectly add samples ( record or find a sample and add it on your computer into the free software called midi control center, then plug in MF to computer and add them in ). It has an arpeggiator and sequencer, also vocoder ability by plugging a mic with TRRS ( 3 black bands, even a phone headset with mic will work ) into the mini headphones jack ( crank up the mic gain in MF settings ). Sounds improve going through external FX boxes ( or FX in a DAW ) like reverb and delay. Firmware updates are free BTW.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I didn't know all of that! Any other synths you'd recommend?
@frankstetka7206
@frankstetka7206 7 ай бұрын
New subscriber here, and I have to hand it to you that you are really on point with your suggestions and observations. Great content and I stayed awake through the whole program 😆
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Any synths you're looking at?
@litup6465
@litup6465 2 ай бұрын
In the if your patient you can get it for under $100 category, I recommend the Uno Synth - on sale now brand new for $129..99 and hence no worries about if the software editor (which is pretty awesome) code has already been used.
@jimdavis-gi1nq
@jimdavis-gi1nq 2 ай бұрын
Awesome list ! I know its a hardware list but I really got to throw one sleeper softsynth in and that's the GForce OB-E V2 that came out in 2022 and I've slept on. Do not sleep on this monster it easily one of the best sounding softsynths ever made and is officially supported by Oberheim . I bought it and my jaw dropped .
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 2 ай бұрын
GForce leads the race with vintage recreations and OB-E is their magnum opus. Totally agree!
@sigurdov
@sigurdov 7 ай бұрын
You have a really excellent sounding voice for this kind of thing and it's perfectly recorded/produced.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much - I put a lot of effort into the little details (while still managing to screw up some big ones 😂)
@geoffk777
@geoffk777 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this video! I have a neice and nephew who are both budding synthesists, and I was looking for a good synth to send them that wouldn't break the bank. So they each got a Cobolt 5s. Both of the units work perfectly and both of them love it. I was considering the Donner B1 because it's so cheap, but the Cobolt was cearly a much better choice. You made a couple of young kids very happy.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Awwww that warms my soul! I'm so glad you shared the gift of synthesizers with them! 🎹🎹
@geoffk777
@geoffk777 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Thanks! although at times I feel a bit like a drug dealer "sharing the gift" of heroin with them....
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@geoffk777 hahahahahahahaha
@ageshero
@ageshero 3 ай бұрын
Roland’s zencore could really be overlooked I feel.
@Sam_Utah
@Sam_Utah 7 ай бұрын
Thanks - great to hear your take on all these synths. Sh-4d might be the value buy for me but you introduced me to synths I did not know existed like the Nina. Good stuff.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! Nina is a beast! 🙏
@ivanskunov9166
@ivanskunov9166 7 ай бұрын
Hi!There is an unsurpassed, already vintage DSI rev 5 synthesizer. It's amazing that he was pushed into a corner. As for the digital synthesizer, which will be very popular after decommissioning, it is worth taking a look at the secondhand market and it will be the Roland system 8.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
DSI Rev 5?
@ivanskunov9166
@ivanskunov9166 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Ha ha ha! Of course rev 2! Even and I don't know how it happened.Rev 5 is this a monster from a dream?))
@NullStaticVoid
@NullStaticVoid 7 ай бұрын
I think you mean '...of 2023' There will surely be new releases in most of these categories in the other 51 weeks of 2024. Also the Sledge 2.0 is basically a Blofeld. It literally works with the same editor.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I didn't know that! I could of course wait until the last day of the year to post this video but then it would be outdated the next day lol.
@johnglennon5623
@johnglennon5623 6 ай бұрын
😂😂​@@VultureCulture
@igotbit9454
@igotbit9454 5 ай бұрын
“Synthesizers in this economy?” - I felt that
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 5 ай бұрын
hahahahaha
@wildphilgaming
@wildphilgaming 7 ай бұрын
I originally commented about how you didn't have the behringer stuff, then got to the end and realized....yeah biased against Behringer. You hear so much, because it's the trend to hate on behringers. I own Pro-One, Kobol Expander, Brains, Space FX, Abacus, 14 Behringer Eurorack modules, RD8/9, TD3, 2600, and Poly D. Not a single module had issues. My ASM Hydrasynth though, I've had a lot of headaches with, even though it's my favorite synth in my studio. Firmware updates on the Hydrasynth are a pure nightmare as the software looks like it was Coded in 1994 for Windows 3.1 and fails constantly while trying to update firmware. I haven't bought the Pro-800 (yet) but I'm guessing the same will be said. I have quite a few friends that bought Pro-800's and not a single one has complained about issues. I only see the issue complaints on places like Vintage synth forums/groups and on Gearslutz (I can't remember the new name ever lol). The only complaint I've had on one of my Behringers is the Poly D's super low output. Starsky has recently updated his review of the Pro VS with the new "vintage" waveforms and it's considerably closer, which you've not mentioned. I know I sound like a ranting fanboy, but I assure you I'm not. I also have a Sledge 2.0 (thanks for mentioning btw, it really IS a sleeper synth that so many are missing out on, the keybed alone is worth the pricetag), Virus TI2, Hydrasynth, Quasimidi Sirius, a bunch of ensoniqs and emu's including Emax's, Moogs (my grandmother actually arrived with issues funny enough, but no one talks bad about them), and a massive collection of modulars. I've also owned hundreds of vintage analogs over the last 20 years from Juno 106's to PolySix's, JX-3p, Arp Omni, D-50, AN1x, JP8k, S612, etc. etc. etc. The behringer of the 2000's deserves the hate it got. The Behringer of 2023/2024, not at all. I'm glad they're releasing great sounding synths at a price to where you can be a hobby musician and not a person that needs a $200,000 studio of synths.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Firstly I am happy you've not had any issues with your Behringer synths. I'm glad you commented that and about the issues with the Hydrasynth as that is a balance to the rest of the comments I've gotten about Behringer. I am not jumping on the bandwagon of hating on Behringer or reading vintage synth forums or gearsluts. As I said in the video I'm going off of comments on my videos and off the experience of my friends. I also didn't include Erica Synths in this video for the same reason.
@bernios3446
@bernios3446 6 ай бұрын
I was interested in the synths, but sorry: the unnerving background elevator music somehow ruins it. Why not play a few patches (even demo patches from the manufacturer) of each synth in order to get an idea?
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
If I got the opportunity to play all of these synths, trust me, I'd love to play some in these videos lol
@EdgetoneStudios
@EdgetoneStudios 7 ай бұрын
I must agree that the Hydrasynth Deluxe rules them all. I have the original Hyrdasynth and keep considering upgrading. The Hydrasynth can also emulate most analogue sounds of the 70's and 80's. I think my ultimate stage setup would be my Korg SV-1 for digital piano paired with the Hyrdasynth Deluxe for two layers of synthesizer awesomeness.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
That would be one helluvah setup! And an AX80 on the side for resonant screams?
@EdgetoneStudios
@EdgetoneStudios 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture yeah!
@doubtingtom37
@doubtingtom37 7 ай бұрын
Felt soooo good when you gave Korg - Drumlogue high marks in its category !! 🎈 Questioned my comparative analysis chops, yet darn please in early days usage. ASM Hydrasynth Deluxe top of short list now, and pleased with your evaluation ! Such Behringer 'mixed feelings' 🤷🏻‍♂ DeepMind 12 has been superb since early 2023 purchase ..... now so hesitant with UB-Xa. Rad video in first days 2024. 🙏🏻 Happy New Year !
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Happy New Year and I'm glad you enjoyed the video! 🥂🍾🎇
@zachleetch8138
@zachleetch8138 6 ай бұрын
Great list, but I think Behringer’s string ensemble deserves a mention.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, but which category? 🤔
@zachleetch8138
@zachleetch8138 6 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture somewhere in the affordable or small form-factor vintage recreation. Though, I also like the picks you chose for those categories and I understand you can’t pick everything.
@mack_solo
@mack_solo 7 ай бұрын
I am sso glad you decided to continue with the "Best Of..." videos. I was genuinely looking forward to it this year and am happy you added some categories to expand it even more (like "Slept on" and "IDGAF" :). Also, as always, I like that you substantiate your opinions - it is so much more valuable than someone simply name tagging a product "rubbish" or "game changer" for the sake of gathering attention. I am going to go on a limb though and guess you haven't spent much time with Roland's SH-4D - I think it would've ended up in "IDGAF" category instead of Juno X 😄. And yeah Korg drumlogue's fate was a victim of its 2-year expectation it created before it actually landed in stores. Everybody else moved ahead in tech implementation and not being compatible with the existing "logue/NTS" SDK is kind of a bummer. The expectation is for the backward compatibilty of new products carrying legacy names. Same with Roland, this "not quite ZENcore" BS implementation of new syths (SH-4d, GAIA2, Aira minis) in 2023 was just annoying. In fact the best thing from Roland was probably Fantom EX system upgrade/expansion 😆 Hope you'll get to play with Norand Mono MkII - i foresee Dreadbox module being bumped off the list next year. 😉 Solid work man! And yeah, never heard of Sledge - so I've learnt something new and it's been a pleasure. 👍
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to hear you're enjoying my Best of videos 🙏 And you're right, I haven't. What's your experience with the SH-4d been like? Oh can't wait to check out the Norand Mono Mk2!
@555atU
@555atU 7 ай бұрын
Two of my friends have the Osmose…the expression is unparalleled but the sound engine is just ok IMO.
@dnbsoldier7259
@dnbsoldier7259 4 ай бұрын
You can make a very strong case for the Sequential Pro 3 being the best monosynth on the market right now. It's got a ton of killer features and it sounds absolutely wicked.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
Yes, but it is very expensive, almost 4x the Malevolent.
@audiolego
@audiolego Ай бұрын
B2600, Virus TI2 and EMU sampler 6400 ultra with Akai Mpcx sequencer is fantastic. Sample it
@caleb5780
@caleb5780 3 ай бұрын
Great list. I got a juno ds 61 used for about 500. Did i make a mistake? I'm looking for more of a synth than an aranger keyboard.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 3 ай бұрын
I don't think so! That's a cool digital synth, I only recommend buying something else if you feel like it's not meeting your needs
@caleb5780
@caleb5780 3 ай бұрын
@VultureCulture thanks man. I got some more time with it, and it realy does kick ass for the price.
@ElectroPanPipes
@ElectroPanPipes 7 ай бұрын
😂 I own the IDGAF Juno X. I own 4 OG Roland’s too. I love it! Personally, I think most synthfluencers haven’t really shown it for what it is. They go through scenes, that’s it. Lazy. But people still seem to like the System 8 and Jupiter X… both I sold. As they were redundant in sound and operation to it. I do agree that it’s the most misunderstood synth. I’ve even educated actual owners on GS about it, so general viewers/buyers have no chance. I’ll still buy a NINA though 👌
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you love it! That's the great thing about synths - we all find different things we like and dislike about them and come to our own conclusions about what's really worth the money
@NoCoverCharge
@NoCoverCharge 6 ай бұрын
Well I am a guitar player learning synths and this past year I bought a Donner b1 bass synth a Yamaha modx+7 and a moog grandmother .. a Roland tr-8s drum machine now to figure out how to make it all work …
@MashmanMusic
@MashmanMusic 3 ай бұрын
Lose the cheezy soundtrack and you have a great video. Let your words keep people's attention.
@user-hd6wq4vc1n
@user-hd6wq4vc1n 6 ай бұрын
Great the Terra is featured. It’s an insane machine that can even spice up your techno and takes yourccreativity one two three steps beyond… And burr brown dac makes the sound fat and juicy.
@bodhibeats8257
@bodhibeats8257 7 ай бұрын
Great video! I got a a Pro-800 this year (while mumbling under my breath about what a hypocrite I am because I really do find the company shady AF). Overall, I’m very happy with it…now. But you’re right…it was a rough launch. Took a few firmware updates to get there, for sure. I’ve never played a Prophet proper, and I didn’t go into the Pro-800 looking for a perfect Prophet sound. I just thought $400 for an eight voice analog poly is pretty hard to beat. I have a Poly D also. Buying from this company feels a lot like giving money the worst kind of billionaires, but damn if I’m not human and just can’t resist the prices. 🤷‍♂️ I’ll turn over every rock to choose anything other than Uli, but they’re annoyingly good at making me offers I can’t refuse.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I think the Poly D is an awesome synth and I love the Prophet 600 the Pro 800 is based on. Feel no shame buying a Behringer! They make great gear at insane prices! I too wish the company had a different vibe but that's not the consumer's fault!
@sensorycircuits1338
@sensorycircuits1338 7 ай бұрын
I got the pro800 a few weeks ago. Build quality & firmware issues seem to have been resolved. As far as the sound quality goes, I've yet to hear a complaint from someone who can point out which part of the Behringer circuit is deficient either in design or components. Probably an identical circuit & I'm pretty sure the laws of physics don't change just because someone is an ahole. It's close enough so that I can get the rest of the way there with reverb/chorus, assuming that there really is a difference.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@sensorycircuits1338 glad to hear it! I'm hoping to check one out on the channel versus my Prophet 600
@noisynois1670
@noisynois1670 6 ай бұрын
Are the BEST company ,does it make other brands stop inflating prices, have you tried the 16-voice Moog One? I had to change it in 9 days, firmware failure and crazy knobs, or with errors, very strange, I have had all the brands that exist and all They have bugs ,but Behringer is the one that sells the most so there will be more complaints although of the 23 that I have from Behringer only the deepmimd 16 has given me a hardware failure, the volume knob makes noise, greetings.
@liviou2004
@liviou2004 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you about the Studiologic Sledge. The initial sound engine (Waldorf Blofeld) has been a little restricted but it's incredible what we can do with it, in all kind of sounds. What is more, there are some hidden specs accessible through Midi CC (as PPG filter for example). It's a good idea to mention it. Thank you.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
I didn't know that about the PPG filter!
@hernanrobles8438
@hernanrobles8438 7 ай бұрын
great video, thanks for diving into different brands, I didn't know what I was missing
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful! 🙏🙏🙏
@MLochMusic
@MLochMusic 2 ай бұрын
Shame they didnt do synth videos of the year. Think this would be on there. So much great info in such a short time. Thanks. Learned alot and the synths I know about we had a similar opinion. As for the Juno X. Roland have repackaged names of classics forever. Gets embarrassing. Thanks again
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 2 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Any synths you're excited about?
@scottk3292
@scottk3292 7 ай бұрын
This is a very helpful video. Not that I'm in the market to buy anything, but it's great to get the comparisons between the synths and better understand how each one shapes the landscape. Can I suggest two more categories for you to consider?: 1) Synth which best (or worst) defines a characteristic sound, thinking of the "dystopian" Jupiter 6 or anything else which tends to lean toward a particular sound style. 2) Synth which would most easily be part of a sound bank rack for greater polyphony. ie: I might buy 3 Hydrasynth desktops to work with my Hydra keyboard, instead of upgrading to the Hydra deluxe. Synths which makes that an inexpensive option (edit in the keyboard version then send sounds to the sound rack units) could be good to mention.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
That idea of genre specific synths is a great idea! The second idea I think I'm a little lost on. Are you talking about polychaining?
@scottk3292
@scottk3292 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Hmm... I'm not sure, as I don't know much of the terminology yet. I'm coming from a different musical background, and trying to learn what's possible with MIDI. The only explanation I can think of is this example: Pretend for the moment that Ashun released a very inexpensive Hydra that's rackmounted, but has a severely reduced interface and is a real pain to create patches on. So I'd create patches on my Hydra Keyboard, then send those through midi to the midi slaves. With two or three of these midi slaves, I'd get a lot of layered sounds for a lot less money than upgrading my 49-key to the Hydrasynth Deluxe. However, in order to get 32-note polyphony from my midi rack, I'd have to get some controller that could take my crazy arpeggios and round-robin assign those notes to my keyboard as well as my midi rack. Or I could stick with lower polyphony so I could layer a lot of different patches. Basically, how easily this ecosystem supports such operations and how much money you could save by choosing a rack of less expensive models instead of buying their flagship model, all that would be the subject of the review/rating. (If such midi systems are even possible. Like I said, I'm still learning what's possible with midi) This idea came from the fact that I'm thinking I'll buy a Hydra desktop to go with my Hydra keyboard and get many of the benefits of the Hydra deluxe for a lot less than the cost of the deluxe. It would be nice to hear about some cost/benefit analyses regarding that kind of approach, as well as highlighting synth model families which better support such midi systems. Then again, maybe my idea is too far out there to be practical now? Hey, thanks for your reply, and for the education you provide through your videos!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Have you considered something like a vintage korg triton rack? You can get one from Music Sound Tokyo for $320 and it has 60-voice polyphony.
@scottk3292
@scottk3292 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I'll look into that, thanks! My original intent was to beef up and layer the sound of my Hydra without springing for the Deluxe, but that got me thinking about the approach of multiple smaller units rather than one huge and expensive unit as a general practice. Thanks for the tip!
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 5 ай бұрын
Ordered a CS10, it arrived broken....sent it back, got the refund....and bought a Cobalt 5s and Alpha Juno 1 with the money I got back....and I am better off for it. P.S. Be careful with the Donner B1, the update bricked mine and have been trying for months to get it back working.
@claudianreyn4529
@claudianreyn4529 4 ай бұрын
It seems you ignored the Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave. This became my dream synth at this moment, but I have the Gemini on my list as well.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
I covered the 3rd Wave in the vintage recreations category.
@joseluisrevelo
@joseluisrevelo 7 ай бұрын
What a great overview of the synth landscape. Thanks!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! 🙏 What's your favorite synth of 2024?
@joseluisrevelo
@joseluisrevelo 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Well, I actually have my eyes on a digital workstation, the Yamaha Montage M
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@joseluisrevelo nice!
@brandonaikin5445
@brandonaikin5445 3 ай бұрын
Great job, as always. I agree with everything (that I've played). I own the Nina and the Roland SH-4d. Very glad to see them on the list. And yes, the Roland Juno X could have been so much better (like analog?) for the price. Would have liked to have seen the Osmose in there somewhere, but can't have everything... Thanks for the show, man!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 3 ай бұрын
It's in there in the poly after touch / expression category!
@bombjelly5795
@bombjelly5795 6 ай бұрын
You sold me the dread box and the Korg monologue xd and I’m happy as hell. Subscribed and liked
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Awesome and welcome!
@AmbientSound7
@AmbientSound7 2 ай бұрын
I am sure glad I found this video! Great presentation! I have the Prophet Rev 2 and I do prefer analogue over digital. I would like to add a synth for ambient sounds. I welcome your thoughts on the Studiologic Sledge or the Minifreak. Thank you
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 2 ай бұрын
I think the minifreak will give you a greater range at a cheaper price point but they're both amazing.
@Coreyjay01
@Coreyjay01 7 ай бұрын
I have the korg wavestate mk2 and it blows my mind how it so powerful and so complex very interesting synth I love it only had it for one month👍🏻
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
It really is insanely powerful and somewhat overlooked for that reason!
@dinosauria55
@dinosauria55 6 ай бұрын
Great video with some cool choices. On the B Pro 800, I think it is fantastic. Most of the people who bash them, and claim poor quality likely have never even tried one. I have a lot of stuff in the studio, including a load of the Behringer stuff. It all gets heavy use and I’ve personally never had an issue. Given your reasons for leaving Behringer out I was VERY surprised to see the Donner in there.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
I have yet to have a single comment about build quality from Donner on my channel. It's a stark contrast to the amount I've gotten from Behringer owners, although to be fair this video gets a lot of comments from Behringer owners saying they've never had a problem.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 6 ай бұрын
That was an excellent run down thank you. In defense of Roland's new offerings Roland has some of the most musical for lack of a better term synths on the market. Do they sound like a vintage Juno? Probably not but who cares if it's in a track with a bunch of other sounds only purists will be able to say "that doesn't sound like Juno!" I make songs, I care about the "song" first and foremost so for me personally what makes a better song is what I try to use.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with liking that modern Roland sound. For me, it's a little to close to that JP-8000 sound and less of the Jupiter 8 sound, if that makes sense.
@Pulse2AM
@Pulse2AM 6 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture I wasn't specifically talking about their modern sounds but in general their synths have a musicality to them that is apparent to me. I've owned a Pro One, Virus, Nord, Novation, AN1X, Waldorf and a few others they all have a sound signature.
@Tutorius
@Tutorius 7 ай бұрын
When i have some mony together i will buy a Behringer Model-D for about 290 Euros... Its monophonic, and the sound pissibilities are absolute incredible... Have played with it...
@teamphil
@teamphil 7 ай бұрын
Great list and channel. I never wanted a donner b-1, but for $90, you can’t go wrong, so I just ordered it…
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Nice! It's a crazy value synth!
@GizzyDillespee
@GizzyDillespee 7 ай бұрын
I guy I know just listed his Avalon Bassline (another 303 clone) for $2500... It can do a little more, and has a lot more I/O and so on... but man, you could buy something like 27 Donner B1 for the price of that single Avalon...
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
@GizzyDillespee hahahaha yeah that's the world we're living in
@teamphil
@teamphil 7 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture it arrived today. Sounds pretty good so far. It’s not the prettiest, but fun for $90.
@dikmugget
@dikmugget Ай бұрын
fantastic detail and coverage - unfortunately for me the mix of your voice was a little low compared to the background music
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture Ай бұрын
I will certainly turn it down in future videos! Thank you for your comment! 🙏
@speakingcolors
@speakingcolors 6 ай бұрын
First video of the Donner I see that makes me think I should get it.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's freaking good.
@BlackMan614
@BlackMan614 7 ай бұрын
Happy New Year Vulture Culture!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
You too BlackMan! Thank you for being a part of this awesome community! 🍾🎊
@davidmagana626
@davidmagana626 5 ай бұрын
What synth would you recommend me between a Roland Jd Xi and a Korg Wavestate mkII?
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 5 ай бұрын
WaveState all day
@francksimon7077
@francksimon7077 4 ай бұрын
JD Xi has a very very fragile keyboard. Not a good idea.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 4 ай бұрын
@francksimon7077 good info to know
@creatorsremose
@creatorsremose 7 ай бұрын
"In this economy"... dude, Yamaha released the Montage M and it was sold out like a day later. All models, not just the 6. People can definitely afford stuff, it's the priorities that are messed up even more than the economy.
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
That's definitely just a joke lol
@flowmaka
@flowmaka 7 ай бұрын
Bro great review! I have heard sound demos on the Nina and it is by far one of the thickest sounding synths on the market! Awesome!😊
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed this video! 🙏
@holdenoaks
@holdenoaks 2 ай бұрын
love this content !!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 2 ай бұрын
So glad you found it helpful! I've got a whole playlist if you want to watch more #sellingout kzfaq.info/sun/PLZUsvzlelfZdv2pmNyn8gKoJqmxYyPs1b&si=eaUIxEEFiTlTgqod
@holdenoaks
@holdenoaks 2 ай бұрын
@@VultureCulture Thanks! I will check it out.
@synthseeker
@synthseeker 7 ай бұрын
I think the economy is pretty ok! :) I'm shopping for synths!
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
What synth are you looking to get?
@synthseeker
@synthseeker 7 ай бұрын
@VultureCulture - I own nothing from Dave Smith / Sequential...so I may dip my toes in the water with the Take 5. :)
@marcutrillogibert9154
@marcutrillogibert9154 7 ай бұрын
if you don't know how many synthesizers behringer has sold, you may be biased
@VultureCulture
@VultureCulture 7 ай бұрын
What do you mean? Do you know their total number of synthesizers sold?
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