Best Villain In The Wheel Of Time?

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@DanielGreeneReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Who’s your favorite WoT villain??

@henryc6632 4 жыл бұрын

Cenn Buie

@shienar8264 4 жыл бұрын

Paitr

@elifsertkaya7120 4 жыл бұрын

Padan Fain, Gholam ,Aelfinn and Eelfinn .

@itamarreina4234 4 жыл бұрын

Olver.

@craigh5236 4 жыл бұрын

Hard to say that its one of the Forsaken as they drop like flies early on, they are more like boss battles in a video game.

@TwistInMC 4 жыл бұрын

I think your sleeping on Demandred, toward the end of the series I was almost completely immune to the intimidation of the Forsaken. However, when Demandred’s appears at the last battle with his army he had me shook. Maybe it’s just me but I have a special place in my heart for Demandred for being the first Forsaken to legitimately intimidate me in a long time.

@hartzy7425 4 жыл бұрын

I've always thought he was the one to really be wary of. You know basically nothing about him the entire series. No idea where or who he his, and that is truly terrifying. *Knowing* one of the most powerful Forsaken roaming the world while not having any idea where they are. They could be anyone, anywhere. That's true fear, I think.

@TwistInMC 4 жыл бұрын

Hartzy thank you exactly

@_DaemonCleaner 4 жыл бұрын

I'm in the Demandred camp too. He did his job, and overdelivered. His plotting gave the Shadow hundreds of devoted channelers and an enormous army. In a very real way he WAS the Last Battle. What the hell did Lanfear contribute?

@GeorgeKinsill 4 жыл бұрын

Yep, same here. The best thing about Damandred showing up is the realization that Rand really f*(ked up in forgetting about Shara. While he always thought himself the defender of 2 Rivers, Andor and such, it took him a while to get in his mind that the whole world mattered, i.e. Seanchan. And then right when those Sharans entered the waygates, and later saw Damandred announce himself, the true horror set in. It is also the perfect meta-narrative for him. Damandred was always ignored in favor of the Dragon Lew Therin, and had Lews Therin not been there, he likely would have been the Dragon and protag. Therefore, it is very appropriate that while Rand is fulfilling the prophecies of the dragon, Damandred is fulfilling the prophecies Rand forgot about in parallel, creating the most professional and skilled army in the world. Damandred is the perfect cautionary tale of the dangers of envy, and shows all of the pitfalls that Rand faced throughout the series.

@sanin3213 3 жыл бұрын

@Krish Nair which loses all meaning because Lan does actually win

@LocallyConstantDuck 4 жыл бұрын

The word count. He is undefeated

@frking100 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how much of a percentage is just descriptions of dresses and copy pasted descriptions if symbolic mannerisms.

@lyunardo 4 жыл бұрын

@@frking100 Everyone complains about the dresses. But he describes men's fashion in just as much detail. As well as hair, food, and sometimes accent. I see it all as clues to how the world has been scrambled by The Breaking, and cultures from our Age have been mixed and reassembled. Ilianers are kind of like Italians, but talk sort of like the Scottish. Aiel look like our image of Vikings, but like like African/Arab nomads, in a setting like the American Indian mesa area, with a philosophy like Ninja clans. Etc... I find it all fascinating! But I get that a lot of people just roll their eyes.

@frking100 4 жыл бұрын

@@lyunardo Sorry i misused the word dresses what i actually meant was clothing in general Jordan goes way into depth with his obsession of clothes. I personally dont remember him describing food very intricately other than the seanchan have horrid tasting stuff but it has been some time since my last re read.

@brianlinden3042 4 жыл бұрын

In the end, even Robert Jordan himself couldn't defeat him.

@lyunardo 4 жыл бұрын

@@frking100 I was thinking of Tanchico, and the scene with thin strips of food eaten with chopsticks. And the Aiel, who eat spicy stew with lizard and snake meat. Gilded fish in Ebu Dar. Etc... My point is, I think it's all part of his world building mechanics. Some folks like me enjoy the detail. Lots of others don't. No right or wrong here.

@thelmahannah1327 4 жыл бұрын

Lanfear wanting to use the Choedan Kal to challenge the dark one is a plot line I really wish RJ had pursued, she was just crazy enough to try it.

@kyleellis9177 2 жыл бұрын

Really wish she and Taim tried, making Rand and one of the ladies take them down.

@MyBoomStick1 2 жыл бұрын

@@kyleellis9177 not a bad idea

@stevenangell3343 4 жыл бұрын

Fain nailing the Mryddraal to the door with spikes was my fav earlier moment for his character. We get Fades' built up early as the Nazguul-esque badguy; able to kill anyone, slip into the shadows, a monster that hunts the heroes from the get-go. Then BAM, they find one nailed to a door, scratch marks and boot-scuffs from its obvious death thrashing at being crucified alive to a door. Then the scene with Fain having one tied up in his tent, its fear and horror and eventual torture, from the hands of what it probably sees as a mere human. Awesome.

@crystalhamrick740 2 жыл бұрын

Rand during his dark period of almost becoming a Darth Vader type character is one of the scariest villains because of the stakes and how far he had come from the innocent and honorable sheepherder. Loved his arc and made him different from typical fantasy tropes.

@hsdurfee 4 жыл бұрын

The ending scene between Rand and Shai Tan is incredible. Probably the best resolution to a fantasy series I’ve ever read. LotR is up there though. Instead of a cliched all out physical or magical battle it’s just a battle of will and philosophy. Rand coming to terms with the idea that he can’t get rid of people’s ability to choose to do good over evil is fantastic.

@Robbedem 4 жыл бұрын

it also fits perfectly with the name of the series. ;) Since the ending allows everything to start over again.

@MrWhangdoodles 4 жыл бұрын

I saw it coming though. It was eminently predictable. There was no other way to wrap it up. It also reminded me too much of the LOTR ending.

@michael305m3 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrWhangdoodles how was it remotely like the lord of the rings ending

@bondini101 3 жыл бұрын

That is based on the Christian God giving humanity free will. If you have read the bible than you would know of the schism and fall. It was predictable as it has been told for millenia. Free will, the right to do good or evil was given to humanity per the bible, even the right to reject God.

@therabbithole993 3 жыл бұрын

@@bondini101 throughout history their as always been great resets with the rise and fall of various empires so it kinda makes sense in a poetic way almost a metaphor for real life

@osoisko1933 4 жыл бұрын

To help with your analytics I put the video on mute and let it run since I've only read the "Eye of the World".

@lawlesscb 4 жыл бұрын

Nothing beats Slayer to me, him killing THE GOOD BOY scarred my soul.

@benjiray1995 4 жыл бұрын

I just got to that late last week as I'm listening through on audible and it hit me real hard

@sage7149 2 жыл бұрын

Actually sobbed and I’m sobbing again now.

@johnny2003 2 жыл бұрын

Slayer was just killing wolf souls cuz he could. I was more personally angry at him than anyone.

@arleenm7367 4 жыл бұрын

Semirhage was the cruelest. Not a lot of time in the books but to me she was the scariest because she liked to torture.

@lilclever51 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah she gave me nightmares

@thelmahannah1327 4 жыл бұрын

The scene where she tortures that wander is just chilling.

@ikaikaotteman7723 4 жыл бұрын

Arlene M she should be in the top 5 forsaken

@andrewgero8174 4 жыл бұрын

yeah, for me she is Nightmare City!! The scene when she kills the Warder with PLEASURE! How twisted is that??

@ssmmav10 4 жыл бұрын

Semiraghe destroyed Seanchan Graendal allowed Demandred to subvert Shara Two of the most dangerous Forsaken Rest really didn’t do anything close to these 2

@Valheru4 2 жыл бұрын

For the longest time (especially before series was finished) I had the theory that Rand Al'thor was going to use the Choedan Kal to balefire Lanfear which would have undo the drilling of the hole in the Dark One's prison ... but also break the world in the process killing over half of the population. If that had happened Rand would have been the greatest villain and hero at the same time.

@lewisevans4556 2 жыл бұрын

What a creative and cool idea!

@annahall4088 2 жыл бұрын

I..actually really like this take. Would it break the world again? Would it fix everything? Would that much balefire just unravel the pattern entirely? I mean he would have to use a massive bolt of balefire to Ctrl+Alt+Dlt her three thousand years, give or take, right? I have questions.

@wilson1728 2 жыл бұрын

@@annahall4088 Using that amount of balefire would be no different than just destroying the entire world like Rand contemplated on Dragonmount I reckon

@MusMasi 9 ай бұрын

his infinity gauntlet.

@DanielGreeneReviews 4 жыл бұрын

Y’all notice how I said profit and not prophet. Cause I just had it pointed out to me and now I hate this whole video.

@caveman7608 4 жыл бұрын

Nonsense you were just being funny cause we all know how he didn’t like money or worldly possessions. You silly man 😁

@FMRovers 4 жыл бұрын

GREED is the Best Villain :E

@BjrnarSnoksrud 4 жыл бұрын

1) Witness Rand battle Ishamael in the the sky at Falme 2) ??? 3) Prophet!

@joshcowart2446 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel bad. I went to regionals in spelling in HS UIL and was always proficient in English yet when I’m typing I regularly swap homonyms and have to correct it

@ervin0072002 4 жыл бұрын

Ya ya ya... I almost commented but wanted to see if someone had pointed it out first. Lol

@MarisuSedai 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve always assumed it was Lanfear who activated the Portal Stone as well.

@nestrior7733 4 жыл бұрын

It just makes so much more sense. I know, it's early on and not everything is quite as fleshed out as it becomes, but I very much doubt that Rand did that with only Spirit. The only of the five you can actually channel in your sleep.

@thehoogard 4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Why would Lanfear even be in that other world if she didn't plan it. And if she planned it she most likely did it herself.

@dennicaid7682 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Honestly I'm surprised anyone DOESN'T think it was her.

@lyunardo 4 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who remembers a lot of "flicker, flicker, flicker..." when Rand was in that vicinity? Even before he went to sleep. It was pretty obvious to me that he started unknowingly interacting with the portal stone as soon as they arrived in the area. The fact that he was drawn to curl up right next to it was a pretty good sign that it was calling to him on some level. I think this is another situation where Lanfear deliberately rescued him from his own ignorance. Then taught him how to fix what he'd accidentally done.

@dennicaid7682 4 жыл бұрын

@@lyunardo "An exhausted sleep finally came, and with sleep, unbidden, the void surrounded him, flickering with an uneasy glow that disturbed his dreams." That's the flickering, but it looks to me more like it was dropped in to keep it from being super obvious that Selene was a channeler. When he finally does operate a portal stone intentionally, it is a lot more complicated than he could have done in his sleep. As for being drawn to it, on rereading it looks like he only chose to sleep there because Hurin bedded down there while Loial was inspecting the ruins, and things were tense with Mat and Perrin since they'd just found out he could channel.

@kathic6402 4 жыл бұрын

My favorite scene with Lanfear is when she is talking to Rand. She tells him Lews Therin loved her and Rand replies that she loved power.

@reksteren10 4 жыл бұрын

Damn not even second spot. Congratulations on your new full time job.

@lyunardo 4 жыл бұрын

Ishamael: "Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste..."

@riignis5126 4 жыл бұрын

We barely even saw her but Semirhage is possibly my favourite/scariest. She got so close to braking rand.

@mikahkilgore4972 4 жыл бұрын

She’s fucking terrifying, mostly because of that fact.

@paulenan9636 4 жыл бұрын

For me, for some reason, one of the best villains is Mellar, Elaynes "bodyguard". He is a sick bastard who is only in it for himself and his petty reasons that aren't really aiming high. But he is also just a human. He has no magical powers, isn't immortal, possessed by the spirit of a bloody city or even an exceptional fighter. He is just some bloke who has to rely on his malice and the knowledge about how to stab people effectivly. And he knows that following his sick interests will help the shadow (other than, for example, Sevanna, Elaida, those whitecloaks...) so his motivation isn't "being stupid enough to get the entire world killed". He does make mistakes and needs help then and again. But he is also surprisingly resourceful, so the good guys often need some "bigger means" to bring him down than some simple street thug should justify (the best thief of Andor, Birgitte being resurrected...). I found it also telling that he outlives all(?) the black ahja agents in Caemlyn, most of whom most likely saw him as some expendable muscle. When Mellar escaped prison, with two anti-magic-devices no less, I kind of felt sorry for Elayne. She is a queen and a powerful magic user, bound to the dragon reborn (for some reason), able to craft devices of power and has a literal hero of legends as her bodyguard, but that guy that just escaped feels like a real threat, like some twisted equal to her(Also tells a lot about Elayne). And as it shows in the end: Had it not been for the horn, some ordinary bloke without special traits, who takes part on the literal final battle of light, shadow, fate and what not, only to follow his own petty reasons and do horrible things to a queen, could have made the shadow win. (Due to this whole "berserk button binding" thing). Without even realizing it. Like, how many Forsaken can claim to have been only stopped by the Horn of Valere?

@marsanna 2 жыл бұрын

I agree, he gave me the serious heebie jeebies, because he was like oh yeah let’s just cut out her unborn children so I can take the Queen for myself. Like wtf dude.

@paulenan9636 2 жыл бұрын

@@marsanna yeah. He is a petty little man designed to make you throw up whenever we get to view the world through his eyes, and yet he is somehow a match to some of the most powerful beings of the age.

@jasonwalker5287 4 жыл бұрын

IMO the best villain of the series was the Seanchan, as an entity. Seeing what they did to Egwene at the start of the series, and seeing how unstoppable they seem to be, capturing the channelers of their enemies, I was more afraid of them than the Shadow for the whole series.

@kyleellis9177 2 жыл бұрын

Hmm, for me it was a relief "normals" could beat channelers. Interesting.

@nHautamaki 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. They were scarier than the shadow because as a reader you have a meta-expectation that the shadow will be defeated by the good guys. But as a human in the real world you know that defeating and even eliminating some bad guys doesn't actually remove evil from the world. As Solzhenitsen said, the line of good and evil cuts through the middle of every human heart. The Seanchan were the evil that was bound to remain, that had to be somehow contested with, even after Rand did whatever he had to to do to deal with the Dark One. You can safely commit genocide on shadowspawn and a bunch of psychopaths that willingly and knowingly sold their souls to evil incarnate, but what about a culture of real, actual human beings who commit unspeakable atrocities but truly believe it's for a higher and nobler good than you could ever understand? If you wipe them out, you are now just doing the Dark One's work. If you let them be, you are tacitly condoning the future atrocities they will commit. If you use your force and power and strength to hold them at bay in a kind of enforced peace, that only lasts as long as your own power; eventually, you grow old and die, things change, and they may gain their freedom from your restrictions before they willingly give up the parts of their culture that are abhorrent. It's the paradox of tolerance, and it's realistic, and that's what makes them scarier than even the Dark One.

@neriumsuitedher 2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely hated them on my first reading, but after my recent reread I rather appreciate them.

@aliabdaal 3 жыл бұрын

I loved the demandred vibe

@haku8135 3 жыл бұрын

He wins hands down for best game plan. EVERYONE else was dropped into this enormous land full of people of every type and loyalty, prepared to bend it to their whims. Meanwhile he's like "Y'all are dumb" And LEFT! Throughout this entire series NOBODY including the other forsaken can figure out what the hell he's doing. And neither could I, because I never ONCE considered he LEFT. He just picked another land entirely that NOBODY prepared to deal with forsaken went to, created an army THERE, then just waited. Just sit back, relax, and wait. Then he came and massacred tons of ai sedai and soldiers, in a FULL circle of 72 with the second most powerful sa'angreal ever made sans the statues. His ONLY error was his obsession with facing Rand and not just obliterating everyone, which he could totally do. HE'S the reason Egwene died, the reason hundreds of male and female channelers died, the reason Taim turned to the dark in the first place, he was a BEAST. Old fire face had more time and was less successful than him. If he had accounted for Mat the last battle would have been easily lost. But nobody accounts for Mat Bloody Cauthon.

@unoewho 4 жыл бұрын

Tylin. She could out villain anyone with Mat's hands tied behind his back... You heard me.

@Trapsarentgay133 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Hein giggidy

@georgevelis4651 2 жыл бұрын

if there is one person that I absolutely hated in this series it's her. Every time her name was mentioned in the later books reminded me of how disgusting she was and made me more annoyed that RJ and BS don't treat her like a villain

@FemkevanDrooge 2 жыл бұрын

@@georgevelis4651 A bit late but absolutely! She was an abuser and a rapist straight out. I feel like she was a plot tool to get us used to Mat falling for powerful women instead of the usual barmaids so he could get with Tuon but I dislike immensely how they went about it

@johnny2003 2 жыл бұрын

Not enough mat art show pink lace.

@adekunlebademosi6756 4 жыл бұрын

Wasn't Elaida's bad desposition strongly influenced by her interaction with Padan Fain. Even Padan Fain acknowledged that the effect of his taint on Elaida will ensure she never supports Rand.

@kev4366 4 жыл бұрын

and she was kind of broken between being under Alvarian's thumb and not actually being equipped to deal with the position she pushed her way into.

@joshrowe8629 4 жыл бұрын

Thinking of Lanfear's role in the story, once the series finished, I think I could summarize the whole Wheel of Time with the old adage Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

@clbmurat 3 жыл бұрын

Since Couladin was given his dragons by Asmodean, I always assumed he was somehow manipulated by Asmodean and Lanfear. I think he actually believed he was the Car'a'carn.

@samuelrussell5760 Жыл бұрын

That was what always made sense to me. I see couladin as more of a sucker than straight villain. Between Lanfear, Asmodean, and Sevanna, someone was always pulling his strings.

@sprbwlshuffler92 4 жыл бұрын

I thought that Mazrim Taim was going to turn out to be Demandred. Kinda disappointed when it didn't turn out to be that way, but still good.

@maohpeach1425 4 жыл бұрын

so did i, i really think that was were RJ was going originally, but maybe he changed his mind a book or 2 down the line.

@TheJcpeterman1985 4 жыл бұрын

He was originally supposed to be but rj changed it midstream

@bozoforce 4 жыл бұрын

I think Rj changed it because too many fans figured that out.

@Robbedem 4 жыл бұрын

You also have to consider the beginning. Would Demandred really let himself get caught like that? I don't think that fits well with his character since he doesn't like to take large personel risks.

@ssmmav10 4 жыл бұрын

Forsaken became free just before TEOTW. Wasn’t Taim active before that?

@ianmohlie 4 жыл бұрын

Semirhage was legitamately frightening.

@gingerginger999 4 жыл бұрын

Few people approach Therava level of monsters ..she was an Aiel murderer perhaps a serial killer. She gets away with her plaything and i'm still pissed off over that.

@johncrofford 4 жыл бұрын

She is the Mitch McConnell to Sevanna's Trump. Without her betrayal of the trust placed in her, Sevanna would have been nothing.

@astusOZ 4 жыл бұрын

Mesaana really sticks out to me but mainly because of auxiliary information from the big book of bad art. The idea of her running these 'schools' in the Age of Legends where these kids were essentially indoctrinated into being psychopaths, turning on family, each other and holding courts where they performed executions is just so twisted. It also carries with it this element of reality that makes it even more unsettling. Mesaana's Children could make for a really good horror miniseries or story. She's effective as essentially the shadow Amyrlin in the series proper but it's almost mundane evil if that makes any sense in comparison to what she was up to in the Age of Legends. I suppose you could say that for a few of The Forsaken though.

@revpembroke3082 4 жыл бұрын

The gholam is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop - EVER! - until you are dead. Good thing Mat finds something it does fear.

@SarahDuke01 Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry to say I’m completely drawing a blank on the gholam. Can you give me a quick recap of who this was, how they died or at least the critical books and chapters?

@SarahDuke01 Жыл бұрын

I’m sorry to say I’m completely drawing a blank on the gholam. Can you give me a quick recap of who this was, how they died or at least the critical books and chapters?

@Pentagathusosaurus Жыл бұрын

@@SarahDuke01 it was the thing that hunted Mat, it couldn't be harmed with magic or with weapons and was basically unstoppable. But very conveniently it was the only surviving one left from the war of power, and for some reason it's master didn't want it to draw attention to itself so it mostly didn't attack in public places, and the one major character it was sent to kill just so happened to be the only person in the entire world who had a weapon (Mats foxhead medallion) which could harm it. It would kill people and feed off their blood, it killed Tylin after Mat left her tied up so he could escape Ebou Dar without her falling under blame. I absolutely hated the Gholam, it felt like such an awfully contrived character and I never got much sense of fear from it because it was pretty obvious Mat was going to defeat it.

@christophercook5007 4 жыл бұрын

liandrin, evertime she appears in the series I feel the anger glands flare up!!

@TheJcpeterman1985 4 жыл бұрын

The real question here is what DID Dav do with that badger.

@AshOck667 2 жыл бұрын

lol

@farstrider79 2 жыл бұрын

The Two Rivers, where men are men and.badgers are scared........

@renzoborg 4 жыл бұрын

I was always intrigued immensely by Padan Fain and despite his lackluster ending, he's still my favourite villain. Demandred is a close second. The problem with Demandred is the same, he didn't get enough screen time and while the surprise of Shara in the end was cool, I would've actually preferred if we got POV chapters during his time in Shara preparing for the Last Battle. That's one of my few criticisms of Wheel of Time: The villains deserved more screen time. Mazrim Taim/M'Hael is my 3rd. I knew early on he was up to something. I hated Elaida more than anyone though. She's a superb antagonist and I think Jordan/Sanderson did a fantastic job making the reader hate her guys.

@Willabrador Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@thedarkonestaint6105 4 жыл бұрын

Give me Andy serkis as padan fain! Best casting choice possible.

@lyunardo 4 жыл бұрын

Kind of on the nose though. Fain is an homage to Gollum (and Grima, and Saruman I guess). Casting the same actor would feel like a parody.

@Jeneric81 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle Smith I’d rather go with Robert Carlyle. Although he might’ve had a few too many villain roles by now.

@thedarkonestaint6105 4 жыл бұрын

Robert Carlyle would be my second choice. Serkis and him were the first two that came to my head as casting choices

@1993Nautilus 4 жыл бұрын

Actually I think Brad Douriff (Grima Wormtounge, Chucky) is an almost as a good choice of not better. Or maybe even Sam Rockwell (I think he could pull it off)

@bradgreer2876 3 жыл бұрын

How about Patrick Stewart? That nose...The bald head...I think he would be great.

@BooksToMovies 4 жыл бұрын

I started reading wheel of time August 27, 2019 immediately after finishing Stormlight Archive which I ended up reading in about a month all together. I’m up to book 5 of WoT now and don’t want to do absolutely anything except keep reading. You have ruined my social life with your recommendations. I no longer care for meetups, nor do I care about my job. Only to see Tarmon Gai’don fulfilled. Damn you Daniel Green. Damn you and your addicting recommendations

@bozoforce 4 жыл бұрын

dominik dedaj, the wheel of time cost me 6 months of my life and ruined all other fantasies for me.

@allison3542 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like graendal beats moghedian in the top 5. Graendal is kind of absent in the beginning yeah, but I never felt like moghedian was all that big of a threat. Whereas graendal became a real antagonist. Also, I know this was not one of the categories and we know they're not "evil" but I feel like the seanchan as a whole made a great villain for me.

@andrewgero8174 4 жыл бұрын

I always assumed that Haran was purely and simply an Avatar for the Dark One. Which means it wasn't pure and simple at all. That is why he couldn't stay away from Shayol Ghul for any length of time; the bore was still sealed but the seals were weakening. So, he could access the world through an avatar but only for short periods of time.

@CanzonE_ 4 жыл бұрын

I knew from the start who you were going to choose, and still sat through the entire video. Great analysis!

@JamesI88 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I'm early for this. Congratulations that you are now officially full time. I enjoy how so many people have different opinion on this matter, as well as favorite side character.

@infernalrock666 2 жыл бұрын

I love that scene right at the end where Rams offers lamphere one last chance to turn to the light. For everything that has happened for him to even offer, and for just a moment she seems to genuinely consider. Then we see she decides if she can't have it all she'd rather have nothing. We will never know how genuine that brief moment was and how close she may have come to turning back to the light, or if it was all just more manipulation and I think the ambiguity of that is beautiful

@ajrocks5677 4 жыл бұрын

Personally, I always found Semirhage the most terrifying forsaken, and was surprised to see she wasn't even on your top five forsaken. The fact that she relished in torture made her a villain that was undeniably cruel and evil for the sake of being cruel and evil, and two scenes in particular put her above the others for me. The first is when she is torturing the warder to death with pleasure. It's one of the most messed up ways to kill someone i remember from the series, especially because I'm fairly certain the warders Aes Sedai was alive at the time as well (not sure if that's right, it's been a while). The second, of course, is when she breaks free of Rand's control and puts the black collar on him, then forces him to strangle Min with his own hands. It was such a traumatizing scene in the story, for both Min and Rand. Min, despite knowing Rand didn't want to hurt her, still has an involuntary fear of him, and understandable fear really, because of what he was forced to do. She still loves him, and forgives him logically and emotionally, but fears him instinctively. And Rand is torn apart by this as well, and if i remember correctly, this marks his turn to being cold, unforgiving, and broken, to everyone, especially himself. He hates himself more than ever before, and fears his destiny is only to hurt those he loves, possibly to even destroy the world. No other forsaken, even other character, damages any of the ta'varen so thoroughly, and this scene is one of my favorite in the series because of this. And Semirhage enjoys it. Edit: Okay actually i think this is breaks Rand from his cold and unforgiving act, forcing him to contemplate his reasoning, prupose, and existence. Guess i have to read the book again... oh well!

@nicademous6396 4 жыл бұрын

YES! Congratulations! I can't wait for more content and watching you expand your craft as a FULL time KZfaqr!

@TheJcpeterman1985 4 жыл бұрын

Ive been watching you since you started, I’m Very happy you’re doing so good . Keep posting videos!!!!

@robfromjersey7899 4 жыл бұрын

Narg, the greatest villain of all.

@danakinstreetrider 4 жыл бұрын

Narg no hurt. You put down sword. Narg was just trying to make peace.

@Moridin69 4 жыл бұрын

BBB H dude you’re forgetting Ingtar.

@MetalCharlo 4 жыл бұрын

Put down sword Narg wants cheetos and anime

@ultantuffy1194 4 жыл бұрын

I just picked up the eye of the world and its great so far. So excited for this series

@fredricklloyd5300 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on your ascension. With the series moving forward, you and Nae'blis are being mentioned as people to go to for Wheel of Time content. Blessings.

@alexcavoli6191 4 жыл бұрын

Ive always viewed Fain as the back up dark one, in case Rand did manage to "kill" the it. It says its too vast to even attempt to kill but i dont think the balance cares it just prepares for every possibility and impossibility.

@pspdownloaderplus 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations Daniel, I've been watching (and enjoying) your content for quite a while and I'm really happy that you're at a point where you can take this step. Good luck!

@jamesalexander4186 4 жыл бұрын

Been here since before you hit 10k. You are one of the main reasons I love fantasy as much as I do currently and the fact that you are now able to pursue KZfaq full time is amazing congrats man

@kelvinmatson9906 4 жыл бұрын

Grendahl and her compulsion was pretty evil. Like ruining ruark at the end.

@marsanna 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot about Rhuarc :( I loved him. The compulsion of him was just devastating.

@heywoodjablowme6439 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the move to full time, love the channel and good luck!!🍀

@garrettwagner5270 4 жыл бұрын

I did forget about the Dark One. You got me. Been here since the start, good to see you make this into a career.

@MrDanialam 11 ай бұрын

So happy to see other fans of the novel! Love your videos keep up the good work!

@luckymandragoran8471 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the full time! You deserve it, your channel is awesome

@bethburge6403 4 жыл бұрын

Wanted to watch but haven't finished series. I know I'm late but life happens. Glad I found your videos.

@McIovln 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats, man! Your one of the best on KZfaq, and I can’t wait to watch you continue to shine! The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills, and you, my friend, might just be Ta’veren.

@McIovln 4 жыл бұрын

P.s. read the Riyria Revelations. I’m dying to know what you think of it! Your reviews are so incredibly insightful. The nuances you pull out of books that go over many heads is one of the many reasons your such a great BookTuber!

@maxgilbertson1041 4 жыл бұрын

Just finished the series for the 1st time. I started 4 years ago! 10,000 pages later I'm here. Love the chanel!

@davewade30 2 жыл бұрын

I really wanted a Last Battle scene featuring Egwene in all her wand wielding glory meeting a collared, broken Elida damane. Oh well, you can't have everything.

@Quadzilla41 2 жыл бұрын

Daniel this is a great video. Thank you so much for this :)

@ChiIIChief 4 жыл бұрын

You’ve improved a lot Daniel, I’ve been here for a fat minute and your editing is miles better then it was. Good job man.

@lindysparty1929 4 жыл бұрын

I agree that Lanfear likely brought Rand into the alternate world via the Portal Stone. She needed to get Rand away from the Shienarans so that she could convince him of how awesome and deserving of power he was. Hard to do with Ingtar running the horses at a quick pace, no spare horses to carry her, and Mat scoffing every time someone says something nice about Rand. Plus if I remember correctly, Egwene Dreams of Lanfear standing over Rand at the Portal Stone the night he's transported over.

@nathanjensen2902 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on going full time man. Just turned on the bell, which is the first time I’ve ever done that for any channel. I’ll watch your vids because you know your wot stuff.

@101Waylander 4 жыл бұрын

A very good video. Well reasoned arguments for your choices, choices that I cannot fault. Well done.

@AvanToor 4 жыл бұрын

Demandred! "You good, man? Where are you?" "We'll be ready..."

@bozoforce 4 жыл бұрын

And by the shadow was he ready. Hope this doesn't count as a spoiler.

@alanh3101 4 жыл бұрын

Go Dan Go ! Keep the wheel of time coming. Love it. Can't wait for the tv show and your videos on that.

@salt_provider4824 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations man ♥️♥️. It's being Great so far its only gonna get better

@bomber66a 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your 1st Pro. Vid!

@Geleswastaken 4 жыл бұрын

I knew your to pick the second I saw the title :) excited to see you go full time! gl!

@kennethballs3614 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on full time! I’ve loved your videos. Can’t wait to see more videos like this. Best supporting character (meaning those who were not in Emond’s Field at the beginning)?

@johnny2003 2 жыл бұрын

I love that Perrin just broke lanfear’s compulsion because he was in the wolf dream and decided he wasn’t under compulsion.

@jayb8934 Жыл бұрын

If the battle against the Dark One had taken place in the Wolf Dream, Perrin probably would have defeated him easily just by deciding that he was sealed.

@leannerose6181 4 жыл бұрын

I've actually had that same thought that Lanfear tripped the portal stone,and not Rand. Enjoying your videos,keep it up!

@yodhanhunter 4 жыл бұрын

I did forget about the Dark One. A clear sign of your skill of talking and explaining your views on this topic.

@EZ1977 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the full time gig. I imagine if the show blows up, so will your channel. Good luck!

@greengrass59 4 жыл бұрын

good editing! I enjoyed the video

@chaz9808 4 жыл бұрын

more videos like this please it was really interesting

@brandontheurer1372 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on the switch!!!

@matthewbroestl3635 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on full time man! Don't worry about it, once the show gets closer you will pick up crazy subs.

@arisyn6436 4 жыл бұрын

When he was talking about the Dark One I couldn’t help get Ride Into Obsession by Blind Guardian stuck in my head. Don’t ask, I don’t know.

@melaniev9446 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on going full time, can't wait to see what's to come. Also, your mention of Fain makes me wonder, in the TV show do you think they'll try to "fix" any of the issues people (including Sanderson) have found such as Fain's ending? We may want them to stick to the story 100% but let's face it there are some minor issues (WoT is my favorite series ever though) and I wouldn't mind seeing an attempt to fix some of them. Just a thought hehe.

@daverevisions2843 4 жыл бұрын

Haven't been following you very long, but congratulations on going full time. I'd enjoy seeing a super-spoilery video from you sometime discussing all aspects of the very very end of the series, and your thoughts on the various send-offs for all the characters left standing. There's one line in the last confrontation that I would particularly like to hear your thoughts on. "It never was." (Hopefully that's vague enough not to itself be a spoiler but for you to know the line I'm talking about)

@givememydatabackgoogle2811 2 жыл бұрын

I have a headcanon sitcom of all the villains who became damane hanging out in a seandar damane cell block after the Last battle. Moghedien, Galina and Elaida all just hating each other.

@Adamdidit 4 жыл бұрын

Remember when Daniel was kinda awkward and unsure of himself on the mic? Yeah..that shit passed a long time ago. One of my favorite youtubers and I'm glad we get you this way. Now just go find out what other youtubers you randomly share a city with for more livestreams.

@timotheedaude9171 4 жыл бұрын

Well, it is 1 AM but I had to watch this video. Thank you for the great work.

@Phoenix-King-ozai 2 жыл бұрын

Good video buddy 👍🏼 I like Shaidar Haran Was very interesting

@gonzalogonzalez2585 4 жыл бұрын

There I was, in the bathroom at 11:47 with noise-canceling earbuds, when Daniel chose to add the horror audio on the Golam section. More than fear came out of me.

@MichaelMaxwell747 4 жыл бұрын

Happy for you Daniel! Your videos have always been good quality but I detect a difference in this one. Probably a little equipment upgrade but more you assuming the mantle

@cthulhu6245 4 жыл бұрын

I never really viewed The Dark One as a character, more a corrupting influence. It’s seen and pointed out that the dark one is incapable of learning(or if he does he quickly forgets when sealed back up), we can see evidence of this when he doesn’t know about bale fire and the forsaken he was talking to is noticing confused by this, and I’m not sure if it can really be called a character when it is incapable of change or learning. I think he’s less character and more force of nature, the real planning and what not being done by characters who were corrupted by his influence.

@Mr73172 4 жыл бұрын

Happy you got to go full time, my friend. enjouy your stuff evey time. keep it coming

@novagalactik 4 жыл бұрын

Love your WoT videos. The passion really comes through for the story!

@kudisgod 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on and good luck with the new career

@MrBdl32 4 жыл бұрын

Keep doing your job, is really great watching your videos. Lanfear had the ultimate plan though, she was just this close to fullfil it.

@asarishepard8171 4 жыл бұрын

i love your videos!!

@covi_reads7398 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for telling me to "get out"

@ericrodriguez9633 4 жыл бұрын

I think it is very cool that who you (and many others) consider to be the best villains are ultimately the “end game@ final villains. Not many series pull that off so well. Thanks RJ

@dylvesterdylone4581 4 жыл бұрын

Good luck, my dude!

@wesleymons 4 жыл бұрын

congrats on the full time youtube journey!!!!

@mgwstn 4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with lanfear channeling the portal stones

@Linguistic1 4 жыл бұрын

YOU FOOL! NAMING THE DARK ONE?!? DON'T YOU KNOW THAT DRAWS HIS EYE TO YOU?!? lol.

@trielt1 4 жыл бұрын

Relax, the Bore is sealed. ...for now.

@fardareismai4495 3 жыл бұрын

@@trielt1 Lightblinded fool! That doesn't excuse calling his name

@jasonm625 4 жыл бұрын

Best of luck with the new career!

@jasonfarley9025 4 жыл бұрын

Congrats on going pro. I almost expected you to write The Dark One off as "more antagonist than villain".

@actionms8566 4 жыл бұрын

To me, it would be Bao/Demandred He found his own twisted but relatable reason for doing what he does and actually manages do deal some damage. I also felt he was not completely lost if it hadn't been for his envy of LT. Moridin on the other hand propably hurt more of his followers than his enemys.