Better Than A Mountain Bike?! | Fatbike Vs Gravel Bike

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Жыл бұрын

Blake Samson is out in the Forest Of Dean to race his beloved Canyon Fatbike against his new Nukeproof Digger gravel bike! Will the racing geometry of the Nukeproof make up the time on the smooth gravel or will the beastly tyres of the Canyon Fatbike make up the time in the rough stuff?
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@marcstucki Жыл бұрын

Fatbiker myself, I can totally relate to Blake's comments about looking down at that enormous tyre and the dull noise it makes. Love it. Despite it being slower than a gravel bike, I'd clearly chose the fattie, anytime.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

I knew if I scrolled down I'd find someone with a similar feeling to me. The fatbike fun factor definitely outweighs the added inconvenience. Especially at a bike park.

@bikemike1118 Жыл бұрын

I once was interested in a fat bike as well … but the market for fat bikes here in Germany was and still is literally dead right from the beginning of this „genre“. The dealers wanted to talk me out of it. Never ridden a fat bike as no dealer had a demo bike. I would have to order one with big payment upfront…and the risk I might not like it as a keeper was too high for me. I do own an XC racebike and the fat bike would just be an additional toy for variety…so I stepped back from this idea.

@TechSucht Жыл бұрын

@@bikemike1118 in my opinion fat bikes only make real sense under very specific circumstances - mainly deep snow and sand. Anything else can be done as good or better on a regular mountain bike. Most people riding fat bikes simply love that they are so chunky (which is reflected in many comments here too), it's mostly not a rational choice but an emotional one. Which is totally okay, of course. It's a hobby and we want to have fun outdoors. 🙂

@bikemike1118 Жыл бұрын

@@TechSucht …totally agree with you! The same would have applied for me. I sometimes do like this chunky look but on the other hand …riding around with a bike like this in an environment where is no sand and rarely much snow can also look pretty dumb and ridiculous…especially when you’re (like myself) not a teenager any more. 😎 So, it‘s probably a „good thing“ for me that the fat bike-market here is down. Thx

@bbitun19 Жыл бұрын

Fun facts! Fat biking around the neighborhood is a head turner especially for the kids. Gravel bike, nahhh they didn’t even bother to look. 😊

@theshonen8899 Жыл бұрын

Honestly a big part of why I love my plus hardtail so much is the sound. Listening to the tire rumble all day makes the climbs so much more satisfying.

@swazi5 Жыл бұрын

Don't know if I've ever seen a gravel bike thrashed that hard, so sick!

@mrvwbug4423 Жыл бұрын

There's a video of Blake taking a gravel bike on a huge jumpline and doing slopestyle tricks with it

@Lumberjack-drummer 11 күн бұрын

I love watching Blake, that guy shreds!!

@chrisplatten2293 Жыл бұрын

I think Blake's skill made the downhill times closer than most riders would get. I am fairly sure I would be a lot slower on the gravel bike than on the fat bike for that section. I like my gravel bike for the options it gives me on road rides to get in a sneaky bridleway shortcut, but prefer my trail bike for anything even slightly serious. I do really want to try a fat bike. I have never ridden one and they look a lot of fun. Something to consider if I end up on a trip where I need to rent a trail centre bike for the day.

@hahamasala Жыл бұрын

I have a mountain bike and a fat tire bike which I ride in the winter here in Minnesota and let me tell you, there's nothing like riding a fat tire bike on snow. The feeling of floating over obstacles, the sound of the snow under the tires, the serenity of the woods... I highly recommend it I have studded tires on it for the ice, so I don't ride it outside of winter.

@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын

If that gravel bike was a hybrid (flat bar) it would have been even faster. Drop are pretty much detrimental offroad. Put some "inner bar ends" like Spirgrips on a flatbar then you gain a "hoods" position on it if you are so concerned about aero.

@MattnUska 11 ай бұрын

Fat bikes have a pretty specific purpose. I live in Alaska (where they were invented) and even here they aren’t often the best choice unless you are in the snow/soft ground. That being said they are loads of fun and will give you a great workout. Getting back on your gravel bike will make it feel too easy.

@JAvellino669 Жыл бұрын

Next head-to-head should be a hardtail vs a gravel bike on a similar course! I suspect the hardtail will have a slightly larger advantage in the rough than the fat bike did, and will be much closer on the gravel. It could even win overall.

@Desmond17 Жыл бұрын

Here's a challenge for Blakey boi : a velodrome track bike versus a unicycle. On the trails. GO !

@alexisonbike3652 Жыл бұрын

Or an Elliptical bike versus a bmx

@alexisonbike3652 Жыл бұрын

@The Nuckin Foob But does it shred ?

@Kjwestfall3 Жыл бұрын

Track bike on Red Bull downhill vs Fat Bike on velodrome

@MrGourd Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see recumbent bike vs. unicycle vs. tricycle, especially on how they do on the jumps!

@m4yd0g Жыл бұрын

A simple way to speed up the fat bike is to choose a different tire and/or increase the tire pressure. Small adjustments in pressure make Big changes in ride feel and rolling resistance.

@Lenswide Жыл бұрын

Same fat bike with lets say 3.8 hodags at 10psi would beat the gravel in overall time. So, yeah, funny videos, but again, it’s difficult to categorize. Love you Blake!

@better.better Жыл бұрын

yeah unfortunately because of their business model, they're pretty much constrained to their sponsors products, which has the unfortunate effect of skewing results by exclusion of other options. it kind of makes them look incompetent to those of us who are actually in the know, and see it as misinformation and the disservice to the people who need the other options and can't afford to just throw money around to figure it out themselves.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

@@Lenswide I agree with you. I have 3.8's on my fatty and properly inflated they perform spectacularly. I just lower the pressure and I'm happily riding on the beach with my dog. Snow country next.

@garycockbain6506 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Blakes reaction was the same from riding the fatty and riding hungover 🤣 😂

@mattspen Жыл бұрын

Great video, very entertaining! Blake makes gravel bikes on rough and jumps look easy. Would love to see multiple bikes comparisons on this same track to compare across videos (but truly it also needs multiple times per bike, perhaps multiple riders. Fun video)

@Gaming-Hollow Жыл бұрын

i just got my first bike, a mountain bike, its a hard tail and i love it, cant wait to get better at it

@Cycling_Crazed_Fool Жыл бұрын

One of the best Blake videos, love it.

@ekims_echoes Жыл бұрын

I love Blakes, "I love cycling as a whole" attitude. I feel the same way. Any time spent pedaling on two wheels is time well spent. Both bikes are rad on their own, though I find myself wondering if the fat bike would overall be tiring to ride and is maybe better suited as a really fun novelty bike.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

Good point. At the lift assisted bike parks though, that aspect is not really an issue.

@High_Octane Жыл бұрын

th wide q factor or (stance between the pedals) hurt my knees..

@fcktherich6913 Жыл бұрын

Same! I just love cycling, I have a fs short travel trail bike, a flat bar gravel bike with suspension forks and a commuter conversion of a road bike. They're all fun to ride on their appropriate terrain and they all own their own specific niche.

@skarabyll1458 Жыл бұрын

yep, alot of other presenters (especially from gcn and embn) could use some of that

@andrewl3610 Жыл бұрын

The thing people don't talk about much in videos like this is the tire mass, if you are a larger rider you can get those flywheels going with a lot less relative power and then maintain them at a medium pace without too much effort, smaller riders trying to get those things up to speed after a turn or up a hill have a much worse ratio of power to rotating mass before the flywheel kicks in some payback to deal with. So I would say can be a lot more tiring, or only slightly so but its going to be much more rider specific.

@ElevationEveryWeekend Жыл бұрын

Fat bike holding its own! Nothing more fun than a good fat bike though! So good on the trails here in Colorado I sold my FS bike this year.

@amdmg7 Жыл бұрын

The amount of fun you get from a fatbike overcomes it's slowness☝️ The Mega on fatbike, Blake, please :)

@smefour Жыл бұрын

Full Sus Fat bike

@amdmg7 Жыл бұрын

@@smefour there are few of them:)

@dantuttle2050 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I recently bought a gravel bike and quickly found that the trails in the park up the street from my house that were kind of boring on my trail bike are way more interesting to ride. This is going to be fun.

@gstbad Жыл бұрын

Still loving watching your videos in France man!

@DoughtyWolf Жыл бұрын

XC vs Trail, XC vs Enduro, XC vs Gravel would be some great comparrisons, thanks for the video, great stuff! :)

@_tenebris_69_5 Жыл бұрын

They all already exist on the gmbn channel 😊

@tablatom 11 ай бұрын

FAST FAT BIKE SETUP. Rear Schwalbe Jumbo Jim, Front Maxxis minion FBR. The JJ rolls like a fast MTB tyre and the FBR is a proper traction tyre. I can ride fast and aggressive with this setup.

@tomalleeson4573 Жыл бұрын

Another great one Blake, but now I've got two more bikes on my wishlist.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

I've been a fat bike lover for many years. And I love the one I own now. The videographer here has captured some really beautiful images of Blake's orange fatty....and the gravel bike too I guess.

@Sixbillion1 Жыл бұрын

here in New England alot of folks own fatbikes JUST for riding in the snow, and i think its insane not to ride one year round. theyre a blast to ride anywhere in any conditions!!

@gibbykirwan7788 Жыл бұрын

Fatbike = More smiles per mile..... From the ride & people you pass ☺️

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Waiting in the lift line at the park with my fatty - I get all kinds of stares, looks and conversation starters.

@mrgravyman Жыл бұрын

I've just got back from a gravel ride in the wind and rain, but this is making me want to go back out again for another ride!

@Jormvngandr Жыл бұрын

Would love to see Blake do a bikepacking trip on the fatbike, the rougher terrain the better

@vinylhouse296 Жыл бұрын

He did last year

@Jormvngandr Жыл бұрын

@@vinylhouse296 None of the bikepacking trips that GMBN has with Blake as host, is with a fat bike.

@vinylhouse296 Жыл бұрын

He rides his canyon dude with Neil, they, the episode starts with him walking into McDonald's.

@vinylhouse296 Жыл бұрын

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@2scoops624 Жыл бұрын

Love the quirky comparison, love both of those bikes. Do more silly stuff like this!

@manuelhuss1183 Жыл бұрын

Great Video! For a next head-to-head I'd like a XC fully with lockout vs a gravel bike vs an allmountain fully.

@garyduran1 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@mellissanash7517 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see Blake review the Cotic Cascade a xc-ish gravel bike(w/room for 29x2.6 tyres) & one of the few drop bar fat gravel bikes.

@morganrowe Жыл бұрын

That powerslide save on the gravel bike was incredible 😯🤙

@thuggooch1776 Жыл бұрын

I am a fatbike fanatik! I use it for everything. However I do own a gravel bike as well and I'd like to get her tooled up like yours is Blake. Great video! Thanks for sharing.

@corsamc12 Жыл бұрын

Great video! On my gravel bike green trails become blue and blue trails feel like double black diamond. Without front suspension my hands and arms do take a punishment though. Overall not the fastest, but it is tons of fun.

@shaunsstuff1249 Жыл бұрын

Hey Blake love the Fatbike Vs Gravel Bike test, as love the channel in general, could we see more entry level bikes vs the higher cost higher spec bikes? Me and my son love riding but we have entry level mountain bikes and up grade parts as we can afford them, as money is tight for all of us at the moment could you do something for us guys who love mountain biking, but have modest budget? Keep up the great work you do, thanks!

@briananderson9853 Жыл бұрын

A lot safer and more comfortable on the fat bike. I run four inch tyres on mine. Wide enough to tackle anything and a bit less drag. With the tyres pumped up hard I can go out with mountain bikes and keep up. Good review though

@JEUXolim Жыл бұрын

This was so awesome. I’m actually surprised it was only 10 secs overall but very big difference at the end to be expected

@simonguard5087 Жыл бұрын

Watching you, the way you ride and your bike handling skills is joyful - think you’d make any bike look quick!

@gmbn Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon!

@bikedad7432 Жыл бұрын

For me, the fat bike is the most versatile bike. My fatty runs 26x4 tires, so it rolls really well and has above average speed. Great video!

@zombiemasacre 11 ай бұрын

I ride the trails on a fatbike and really like it. It will bomb down trails faster than you expect and the grip you get from the tires is nice. You do pay for it, but it is all good fun

@ibanez2010 Жыл бұрын

Blake riding street on the fat bike were some of the best videos!

@tonyhowes669 Жыл бұрын

Love the gravel. I did 70km tour with 1700m climb a month ago on mine. On a mtb trail... It was fine for all, but one downhill section was pretty sporty. I would love to see these comparisons. 1. Dh VS NP Scout on an all mountain track system 2. His gravel VS his Scout with xc tires on the course from this video. I suspect there is not much difference on the up's this way, but the downs are all scout

@alexanderscott2567 Жыл бұрын

For your next clip, let's see: a nice Winter day, a gravel bike, on the mountain slopes! You could compare it to a road racer, or a tricycle, or an urban food delivery cycle. Do NOT use the bicycle specifically designed for the task.

@erseklaszlo9904 Жыл бұрын

Blake you are my favourite presenter 😃😀😃😃 doesn't matter witch type bike have you 😄😄😄 i like your video ✌ Go Go Go Blake 👏👏👏👏

@pexy1237 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Maybe compare full sus xc bike vs agressive hardtail? Could be interesting.

@mellissanash7517 Жыл бұрын

yes!

@willripley2166 Жыл бұрын

Blake, you are a beautiful person who's love for biking is infectious. You should do a head to head of a proper old school, og mountain bike (fully rigid, friction shifters, skinny bars, rim brakes and everything) vs a 26" street trials bike. See which is better for doing some old school/techy tricks and some trail riding

@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын

I told my friend with some health issues to get a fat bike. It's stable, comfy, and will roll over anything. I've seen a ton of older people on fatbikes.

@waltermorris337 Жыл бұрын

Excellent job my friend

@FlowFinderUSA Жыл бұрын

I have a 2018 Trek Farley EX8 dual sus fat bike 120/120 (3.8 tires). The bike is just flat out fun. Funny when I take to our local bike park and get the "looks". Lol People seem to enjoy it and can't believe I'm jumping around on the thing! I'm with you, Blake. The fat bike is fun anywhere, anytime 🙌

@alexh.4068 Жыл бұрын

Blake! Next head to head -- Hardtail Dirt Jump (with rear and front brakes) vs Downhill bike on the trails. Thanks! Lol.

@testing3166 Ай бұрын

Fatbikes aren't about speed, they're about fun!

@Pillokun Жыл бұрын

John Tomac wants his drop bar MTB from the 90s back :P

@aliens1990990 Жыл бұрын

Nice video blake very nice comparison

@PG-xr4uh Жыл бұрын

Now I don't feel so bad making all the same sounds as Blake coming up a hill on my fat bike. Thing with me is, I have to take a break or two going up as well.

@MoriTouge Жыл бұрын

I rode the same trails with my 2022 Marin Stinson as in my Lapierre Zesty, almost same confidence in drops and jumps and doubles the fun. Marin Stinson + good brakes and pedals = BEST bike ever.

@tomdomagalski3679 Жыл бұрын

nice vid!

@swiszdelafuente6555 Жыл бұрын

That cf dude nailing it

@FATBIKERIDER Жыл бұрын

a great vid loving that orange

@AliasHSW Жыл бұрын

We are big fans of Blake “on a bike in general”.

@eXaviar Жыл бұрын

The moment Blake clicks in with his shiny roadie shoes 😱🤣🤪

@11pack09 Жыл бұрын

Whilst I probably should have gotten a gravel bike for the type riding I do, I really enjoy my plus tire mtb I got instead. Cool idea for video!

@rodster44 Жыл бұрын

Very entertaining video, I tried drop bars off-road ONCE and it was super sketchy. I don't know how you do it.

@kevin._.farren Жыл бұрын

Interesting comparison. I don’t think anyone was shocked by the outcome. So, I guess the real question is which one did you enjoy the most and why?

@bowrepublik Жыл бұрын

Now id love to see a cyclocross bike, hard tail and dual suspension for the same course.

@scotthines5834 9 ай бұрын

Wondering the PSI on those fat tires? Thank you very entertaining video.😊

@DarcyFletchh Жыл бұрын

Ooh new vid

@markbaker75 Жыл бұрын

Great video, anyone know what brand the jackets are he is wearing?

@kevinpanahon9702 Жыл бұрын

Finally, someone riding the new Nukeproof Digger! 😍

@dullbrass Жыл бұрын

I don't care for speed, I just love the way the fatbike rolls securely everywhere you take it. My Farley's got 27.5" wheels and no suspension.

@c.s.4273 Жыл бұрын

I don't get it why Fatbikes went from 26" to 27.5"!

@dullbrass Жыл бұрын

@@c.s.4273 because it's the perfect size

@c.s.4273 Жыл бұрын

@@dullbrass How so? A wheel with 26"x4.6" tyres is even higher than a 28" with normal tyres.

@dullbrass Жыл бұрын

@@c.s.4273 I think there are no 28" fatbikes. 27.5 is the standard at the moment.

@c.s.4273 Жыл бұрын

@@dullbrass Why on Gods earth should there ever be 28" fatbikes? Like I said even 26" fatbikes are taller then normal 28" bikes. So there is no sensible reason for even 27.5" fatbikes.

@mikespadafora9077 Жыл бұрын

I always wanted to try a Yeti DJ or similar with a good fork and decent wheels and dropper seat post and see how it would compare

@andyashla Жыл бұрын

That is such a beautiful fat bike. I slap spiked 2.6 tires on my Santa Cruz Hightower for winter riding in Connecticut, but that fat tire bike looks so good.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

It really does. And props to the videographer here. I stopped the vid twice to capture those delicious images.

@JollyGiant0 Жыл бұрын

Great content, but you should throw in the full suss for real comparison of all three. I love my Grav bike (Grail SLX) and do red route stuff and most of the time its awesome but it hates roots and any kind of jump.

@louisjones2196 Жыл бұрын

Hardtail vs full downhill on at least a red trail 👍🏼

@mattspen Жыл бұрын

☝🏼this!

@better.better Жыл бұрын

pretty sure they've already done that video

@c.s.4273 11 ай бұрын

26"x4.6" Fatboy/Hellga is the way to go! Here in Heidelberg/Germany we have a trail called "Felsenmeer". Only fatbikes can use this trail due to the huge rocks there! PS: I even upgraded the front wheel to a 4.9". Now it rolls over everything like a panzer!

@siemens198195 Жыл бұрын

Anyone noticed how at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="497">08:17</a> Blake just completed jumped the trail's exit?

@NeronAzemi Жыл бұрын

I love you to Blake! ❤️❤️❤️

@BIIIKES Жыл бұрын

Just get all 3! I love my MTB, gravel and fat bike!! Ride all the bikes...

@NicolasWilliamHughes Жыл бұрын

The video that nobody asked for but somehow we all love...Only Blake.

@rossalisdair3208 Жыл бұрын

Love this, just heading out to try and get a fatty sorted.

@RetroRewind77 Жыл бұрын

Cool vid

@robertandersson2523 Жыл бұрын

My Fatbike with Schwalbe Jumbo Jim 4,8 rolls a lot better, even on tarmac/asphalt, than my cx on Vittoria Terreno mix. At least before the air resistance matter. I had Schvalbe on my cx before and was really surprised how dead the Vittoria is. At least they track better :) I also think that running the 4,8 helps a lot.

@Radoslaw731 6 ай бұрын

Fatbike on pavement is slow!!! It's proven. Don't talk if you don't know what a fatbike is design for. It's only good for offroad with low pressure

@robertandersson2523 6 ай бұрын

@@Radoslaw731 Owning fatbike, xc and cyclocross and have competed in xc I think I'm qualified to make my statement. If you don't understand it, please read it one more time. Still not getting it you are welcome to test my bikes any day and experience it I first person. What bikes and background do you have?

@thegefster1988 Жыл бұрын

Gravel bike and hardtail xc mtb comparison please!

@mikk01975 Жыл бұрын

My previous bike was a Canyon Dude. Loved it! Single track, winter riding, gravel and even long asphalt rides. It could do it all! Not the fastest bike, but then again, I'm not the fastest rider either. I'm a bit concerned that Canyon went with 27,5" rims as there's no Jumbo Jim tyres in that size and I haven't heard anything rolling as fast. That was a big part of the bike!

@Coofy91 2 ай бұрын

I just built a fat strech cruiser for daily use and I have to say: it's definitely not the most comfortable ride I ever had, but it is a blast to commute with it or just ride around generally. Heavy? Yes, quite, only if you have to lift it tho. But still looks like a beast and the feeling of riding it negates every shortcomings, at least for me.

@snoopy10411 Жыл бұрын

Love a quirky bike. Have you ever considered rigid singlespeed 29er MTB? Makes you pick your line carefully whilst trying to carry as much speed as possible for the uphills. No easy way out on the climbs, gotta get your arse out of the saddle and keep momentum and makes you consider when to hit the brakes. Great for training on and makes you feel like a hero when you get to the top and a quick spin is a proper workout if time is short. None of this full suspension ebike nonsense. Also makes for a great short/medium distance commuter cheap to buy, Low maintainance, light weight very little to go wrong, less stuff to bash, easy to clean but still tough enough to hit the dirt.

@philliplanfre347 Жыл бұрын

Easy to use and clean. Very convenient.

@sergion1406 Жыл бұрын

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="313">5:13</a> what the world?!!

@bracket0398 Жыл бұрын

This is a rally car and jeep mudder meet. I have a fatty and love it, kinda wanna get a gravel for the rough road intermittent. Its good to have a car and truck to use the correct tool when needed! Or wanted...

@et328 Жыл бұрын

How about a fs xc versus gravel fs, something like a canyon lux vs niner MCR fs

@_tenebris_69_5 Жыл бұрын

Trail/enduro hardtail vs fatbike? Not just because it would be a funny video, I really do wonder which bike would be more capable

@stefanthegerman3575 Жыл бұрын

I came from bmx and downhill racing and always love my mtbs but my favorit bike is also my niner custom build gravelbike. That bike is awesome and you can do so much diffrent stuff with it🤟🏻

@user-kb7ij6ye8u Жыл бұрын

Underbiking on gravel bikes is amazing fun. You'd be shocked what me and my buddies ride down on drop bars

@William_Villalba Жыл бұрын

It would be great if you make a comparison between a hardcore hardtail and a XC full sus

@sixate Жыл бұрын

Love the sound fat bike tires make while riding. I ride 29 plus year round on my hardtail so I can appreciate big tires. Love the extra traction, bit of a penalty on fireroad climbs but I don't mind at all.

@speed2live Жыл бұрын

Ditto mate.

@Frombie_01 Жыл бұрын

The bike to go for is the one that brings you joy.

@Casualfulltime Жыл бұрын

BEAST MODE

@MastaShredduh Жыл бұрын

I wonder if the drop handlebars on the gravel bike actually help with proper body position on jumps? Keeps you from being leaned back completely!

@fcktherich6913 Жыл бұрын

He's mad! I slapped gravel tires on my flat bar road bike and I felt like I was going out the front door on every jump and bump. Blake is just a beast!

@hardmtnbiker Жыл бұрын

It depends your interest and intentions for getting outside on your bike and where you are planning to ride. A gravel will be able to ride a century or just make a long ride more doable. A fat bike will conquer sandy or snow covered trails with ease. Just my thoughts

@ehornad Жыл бұрын

I need to own BOTH these bikes

@Todd66 Жыл бұрын

So I have a carbon frame, full suspension (140 frt & Rr), fat tire ebike. Carbon wheels, dropper. It’s got a Bafang M620, 10 spd. I cannot get enough of it. I’m running 52V

@kevinxodemonth Жыл бұрын

XC vs gravel bike! Need more fuel for the “gravel is just XC with funny bars” fire 🔥

@jasonhemp5747 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see this as well- there are some long gravel rides that I have been contemplating, and I already own an xc bike--with a tire change it seems pretty capable but what do Blake and the guys think?