Herman Miller Cosm Chair with Leaf Arms Review

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In this video, Ryan takes a closer look at Herman Miller's popular Cosm chair with leaf arms. He goes over the features, pricing, return policy and much more. If you're interested in adding this chair or just curious about seating, this is a great video covering one of Herman Miller's most popular new chairs.
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@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
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@yashmaval
@yashmaval 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome review. You guys are really good at this. Your reviews do seem unbiased. Such a rare thing these days…
@alphaperez
@alphaperez 2 жыл бұрын
The Cosm high-back is amazing. The leaf arms are ok but the adjustable arms are much better in my opinion. I am 6'1" and 190# and the Cosm recline works amazing for me, it just swings so naturally. The head rest is a little low - I have to tilt my head way back - but the back support is amazing. The mid height is also a great chair, but the low back was way too low for me. I prefer the Cosm to the Aeron, Embody, Sayl and Mirren 2 (listed in order of preference).
@MrSlimfinger
@MrSlimfinger 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that someone finally sat down in the chair after 6 minutes. It was the climactic point I was waiting for.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Haha! Just trying to keep you at the edge of your seat for our office seating content -GK
@brandingforces
@brandingforces 2 жыл бұрын
After this review I was hesitant to buy the chair. However, when I walked into our local store and sat down it all changed my mind. Wow, this is a fantastic chair and for me, better than the old AEON line. You truly don't need adjustments as the chair performs so outstanding and keeps you in any position your want. If I want to sit straight it does it with felt feedback. It also molds into my unique poster so much better than the AEON line. I had the benefit testing these chairs out side by side. I feel this review lacks this aspect. Herman Miller designed this chair to be functional and automatic.
@Yang-rm7fs
@Yang-rm7fs 4 ай бұрын
I've been sitting on my 2nd hand Aeron for about 8 years... only in the last 3 years after working from home have I noticed that my back hurts a lot, because I don't have the posturefit adjustment... I've just ordered a cosm chair, hopefully it'll make a difference
@wrliggin2
@wrliggin2 4 жыл бұрын
You guys deserve so many more subscribers. Excellent reviews that have been so helpful
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated! We are working to grow our channel everyday. Thanks for subscribing and supporting the channel! -GK
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning 3 жыл бұрын
He answered you for the compliment. Not for the typical question above that Schoggi Mah asked.
@JennyDarukat
@JennyDarukat 3 жыл бұрын
This chair is so strange, but so special. It's hard to describe just how soft and light yet incredibly sturdy it feels to touch and to sit in. I personally think I still want an Aeron over this since I am an upright tasker and need-need-need the forward tilt support in my life for a long days' fatigue, but it's a real experience and I see why some people love it so much.
@caster269
@caster269 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. I’ve never sat in a chair and just had a “wow” moment until this. I ultimately ended up going with the Embody because I task upright as well as occasionally crossing my legs, which isn’t great on mesh chairs, but if my tasking position wasn’t a concern this might be the most immediately comfortable office chair I’ve ever sat in. It’ll definitely be my first choice if I ever have the need to get an additional chair.
@johnmcclung4736
@johnmcclung4736 4 жыл бұрын
Great and thorough review! I'll check out other reviews from BTOD.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! -GK
@SwedishDeathLlama
@SwedishDeathLlama 4 жыл бұрын
I've had my Cosm for a few months and I really like it. It's definitely a "pushy" chair in that it has decided what position is ergonomic and it kind of just makes you sit that way automatically. As a big guy the #1 improvement they could make would be a wider seat. I fit but don't have a lot of room to twist around without the sides of the seat getting in the way. This review mentioned the short seat depth, but I am just over six feet tall (1.82m) and find it very comfortable. It does drop off a little earlier than cushioned chairs but I like it because there is no pressure on the bottom of your legs at the edge. The curved mesh does a nice job of just dropping away smoothly. However if you are much taller than 6 feet you may not feel enough support under your legs from this chair. As far as the mesh on bare skin goes: literally no problems for me and this was one of my biggest concerns going with a mesh chair. I ordered fabric samples from Herman Miller in advance. They call this their "Intercept" fabric and it is much smoother than the "Rhythm" or "Balance" fabrics they offer on other chairs, which felt like sandpaper in comparison. Supporting the fact that mesh is polarizing, I am now convinced that mesh is the only choice for a chair needed for long sitting sessions. It is so nice and cool. You will never stick to it like a leather chair but it is so much easier to clean than the old school fabric-over-foam design (you can just wipe it down with a damp cloth). Disagreeing with this review, I have found it very nice working long shifts in this chair since it encourages good posture. You won't be folding your leg to sit with your ankle under your other knee the way I used to in my old cushioned office chair. This can feel like a limitation. It's better than the back pain I was getting before, but it makes me long for a plush gaming recliner while watching long videos where I want to lounge back and don't need the keyboard/mouse. It took a little bit but the key to enjoying the leaf arms was having my keyboard and mouse at the right height. I've found that the leaf arms keep my shoulders back instead of hunched forward, and I don't really feel the solid plastic frame around the front of the armrest since my arm is a little bit above it. I actually like that there is zero adjustability to the arms. Maybe I am crazy but I cannot stand when adjustable arms have a half millimeter of play so they move around and make noise. I prefer the solid feel of these leaf armrests. Herman Miller doesn't make them an option on the chair but they do sell larger wheels that are easily swapped in. I ordered these but it was a waste. The smaller wheels actually roll better on my solid wood floor. Since I am not rolling over any bumps or transitions or carpet, I don't get the benefit of the larger wheels.
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
Hi my Swedish neighbor. I have tried the Cosm in the store today and first I was hesitant about the Leaf arms due to this review and then I read your comments and tried out the Leaf arms. My biggest concern with the Leaf arm was that I wouldn’t be able to get all the way into the table and rest my arms on the table itself. But they actually go all the way to the table and are in the same line as my stomach so it won’t be a problem. I am going to use it daily for my job at home so how is it the mechanism holding up in regards to tilting when you want to sit straight up at the desk? You say you have had yours for a couple of months so I was just curious. In the store today I could sit straight just fine. But an actual test would be to use it for 8 hours for a day but that would be impossible to test before buying the chair. First I wanted to buy the chair without any armrests but the Lead today changed my mind and your comment too.
@SwedishDeathLlama
@SwedishDeathLlama 3 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB No issues there at all. If I don't lean back the chair doesn't lean back
@schoggimah2142
@schoggimah2142 3 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB Guys: I have heard a lot about people having their back being pushed forward (their upper back to be more accurate) as a cause of the way the chairs backseat is formed. Could you give me a max. back height you are allowed to have without being automatically pushed forward by the backrest? Btw: I am 1.75 and a rather small build. (also very low weight) Would this Chair fit me?
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
@@schoggimah2142 I am 183cm tall and I don’t feel the chair is pushing me forwards. I tend to lean back at a 45 degree angle while in Teams meeting and lean forward while I code. I don’t even think about it. I just move my upper body the way I want and the chair follows.
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB Thanks for the clarification. Definitely quite a few reviewers state that it pushes you forward and you can’t lean back unless you really tense up with your legs and work for it (instead of relaxing). Do you think it’s ok for leaning back and gaming or watching movies in this chair (as well as work)?
@yxj214
@yxj214 4 жыл бұрын
Best chair (and furniture) review website ever! I've watched many of your reviews and then bought this cosm chair. It is very comfortable to sit on. IMO, it is a huge improvement over Aeron and Mirra 2, whose sharp edge cuts into the thighs. (I skipped Embody because I want a mesh chair and Embody is twice more expensive.) But, I am experiencing an annoying "noise" problem. When I sit down on the chair, the whole chair sinks a little bit (not the mesh) in the central pillar, which is probably part of the weight-sensing mechanism, the spring makes a small noise, which is ok. BUT, when I stand up, the whole chair pops back suddenly and makes a big noise when hitting the end. No one has brought it up. Hasn't anybody else noticed it? Is it just me?
@derek400004
@derek400004 Жыл бұрын
i observed the same thing on a lot of herman miller chairs, just a weird quirk but all ok
@GogiTavadze
@GogiTavadze 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for a detailed review
@schoggimah2142
@schoggimah2142 3 жыл бұрын
Could someone give me a max back height you can have without having your upper back pushed forward because of the seat? TIA
@limwowo5902
@limwowo5902 3 жыл бұрын
ever since i started working in 2014, ive been having pains in my lower back. but when i go to the chiropractor i wasnt in pain cuz it only hurts when im working in the office. i would like to invest in a really good chair that can support the lower back, arms and neck..
@cactoesgel1198
@cactoesgel1198 4 жыл бұрын
I'm between the low back Cosm and the Setu.
@johnpaolojose2667
@johnpaolojose2667 3 жыл бұрын
With the unified component design, it will be impossible to replace some parts in the future compared to a mirra and aeron
@b33k34
@b33k34 4 жыл бұрын
Good review. I've been using the Cosm for 4 months now for long working days at a desk. I came from a medium size Aeron and I'm 195cm. Mine is a Medium height back (which is much higher than most office chairs) in Canyon red with a grey mesh. It's a great looking chair - elegant and lightweight and a real contrast the morass of black and grey chairs and doesn't look out of place in a home environment I really like mesh seats - they're much cooler to sit in. I had my Aeron for over 10 years and while I still think it's one of the most comfortable chairs I've sat in, after long days I'd feel the hard edges and sides of the seat - and the hard edge at the top of the back rest. The Cosm solves all those issues - I don't find the seat too short, and despite my height the medium backrest gives comfortable support high enough up my back. There are no hard edges and the flexibility of the back frame means it's also comfortable when leaning or reaching for things. What really surprises me is the level of comfortable lumbar support the chair gives. I was expecting this to be a weakness looking at the design but I've never experienced any back pain and there's none of the 'hard push' that other chair's lumbar supports give (neither of the older Aeron designs worked that well) Likewise the lack of adjustment - i really think the Cosm delivers on the designers promise and 'just works'. the seat tension auto adjust is perfect - if you want to lean back more you just lower the seat slightly. To sit more upright make the seat a little higher. It's intuitive and natural (and of course, as intended, it means multiple people can use the chair and be comfortable without needing to make a load of adjustments). If there's one thing thats turned out to be a disappointment it's the Leaf arms. They look amazing and I found on the phone or a video call when you're sat back they were really comfortable. However, over time I discovered were just slightly too high when typing and lifted my shoulder leading to pain later. I've now removed them and am just using the chair without. To be honest I've never found arms that worked on any office chair I've used - if they were high enough to rest on they got in the way at other times so I've always just dropped them low and not used them. Before I bought the Cosm I was looking at a new Aeron without arms fitted. As per the review I think the leaf ams would be great in a conference setting and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get on with either of the other Cosm arm designs.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback on your experience with the Cosm. We love to hear how others experiences are with their office chairs -GK
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
How did you remove the Leaf Arms? I am in doubt if I should buy it with the Lead armrests or not. In the store I didn’t notice that they were lifting my shoulders but you can never know and the real test will be a proper use of it for 8 hours at a desk. I am just curious if you can unscrew them from the chair if you don’t like them in the long run?
@b33k34
@b33k34 3 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB they are held on with a torx (star) head bolt. It’s recessed so I needed to buy a long torx bit, and it was very tight but you can remove them. I think if you order without arms there is a blanking plate that fits in the hole but it’s barely noticeable. I just put the bolts back in without the arms.
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
@@b33k34 great. Sounds good that you can remove them. Thx for the info.
@rubendhernandez4748
@rubendhernandez4748 3 жыл бұрын
@@b33k34 Hello, friend. I have a question, can I sit with my back straight up comfortably? Thank you in advance for the answer.
@rastislavpotenga7726
@rastislavpotenga7726 3 жыл бұрын
For ppl who have got the "High-back" version, is it suitable also for comfortable watching movies sometimes with 1-2 legs on the desk??? THX.
@Keiktu
@Keiktu 2 жыл бұрын
hello, which has a better seat comfort? The aeron or the Cosm? what could be the difference in regards to seat comfort? Thank you.
@dchew001
@dchew001 4 жыл бұрын
i just got my cosm a few days ago and i love it! thank you guys, i watched through a ton of your videos before i came to find a chair of my own
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I'm glad we could offer some help through the process! -RB
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
How is your experience with the chair after some months of use?
@dchew001
@dchew001 3 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB I still love it. Spend hours on it every day!
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
@@dchew001 sound great. Just ordered mine
@schoggimah2142
@schoggimah2142 3 жыл бұрын
@@dchew001 How about your back height? I heard a lot about the upper backs of some users being pushed forward. Could you give me a max. Back height that doesn’t cause this problem? TIA
@HOWARDdlx
@HOWARDdlx 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone who owns it also had lower back pain from the stiffness of the lumbar support? I’ve seen a few people saying the same and want to find out what people have done about it, or if they’ve just returned it
@the_krakyn
@the_krakyn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! Any chance you guys will check out the Herman Miller Sayl chair?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, after COVID we plan to take another deep dive into many of the big brands other products. Stay tuned! -GK
@p3te13
@p3te13 11 ай бұрын
I a looking for a real good office chair that has good thoracic support and the ability for the arms to come totally up. I mean out of the way. I play guitar that is why. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
@Soybomb05
@Soybomb05 6 ай бұрын
How tall is the lady in your video? I’m thinking of getting the high back version so I can use the headrest, but I’m not sure if 5’4” is too short for it.
@goobydntfear
@goobydntfear 4 жыл бұрын
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@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊 -GK
@jjh00
@jjh00 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@joachimrahm4887
@joachimrahm4887 3 жыл бұрын
What would you guys recommend for this chair, Fixed or adjustable arms?
@minuszero332
@minuszero332 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried the Aeron, Mirra 2, Embody and Gesture for extended periods of time each and this Cosm with Leaf arms is hands down the best of the bunch. The arms do rub your elbows raw for a few days but they soften up a lot after that and the irritation goes away. I find I like the leaf arms now more than any other chairs arms.
@R9RealMadridR9CR7
@R9RealMadridR9CR7 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review!
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! -GK
@Randizzle057
@Randizzle057 3 жыл бұрын
For your averages, how many people are in your office and what are their common body sizes?
@skaterfugater
@skaterfugater 3 жыл бұрын
its basically the perfect fancy dining chair if you remove the rollers maybe. :D seriously i consider these for that. super expensive for that but imagine a modern dining table with a few of these and not rollers.
@AdultsAreTalking
@AdultsAreTalking 4 жыл бұрын
The Herman Miller Cosm High Back was the most comfortable office chair I've ever had the pleasure of sitting in. Yes, even moreso than the Aeron in my case. I'm 5'10 and it fit the shape of my body perfectly! Though I must mention that the one I sat in had the leaf arm rests and I hated them with a passion. They're definitely not good for desk work. I recommend the height adjustable armrests all day for their functionality and comfort to adapt to your usage situation. Hope I can buy one in the future someday but unfortunately the price is unjustifiable for me right now.
@AdultsAreTalking
@AdultsAreTalking 3 жыл бұрын
Update: I bought one at a super discount!
@bigpoint58
@bigpoint58 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdultsAreTalking i know your comment is old but I straight got the version with the height adjustable arm rests. tbh when i tested all herman miller models I liked the cosm the most. but it was really difficult since all of them where insane. especially the embody and aeron in C size
@alexflores4458
@alexflores4458 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdultsAreTalking Lol how much?
@AdultsAreTalking
@AdultsAreTalking 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexflores4458 $650
@oliverstemp9132
@oliverstemp9132 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing
@iCupcake01
@iCupcake01 4 жыл бұрын
i got cosm leaf arm for 2 weeked, for me it too short seat dimention but i very love about not adjustment and back support , like you said leaf arm is poor but think to change to adjust-arm than leaf arm
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I'd love to hear your thoughts on it after several months of use. Stay in touch. - RB
@vanichco
@vanichco 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I just wondered if you managed to change it to the adjust-arm? And what do you think after you have it for several months? Thank you!
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
Also curios if you could swap the Leaf armrests yourself? Any news?
@shahilagh
@shahilagh 3 жыл бұрын
I sat on it and it’s seat was big for me ...the seat is one size? and for some reason I found the Aaron seat more comfortable
@hikki6478
@hikki6478 3 жыл бұрын
Comfort is subjective. If you found the Aeron more comfortable then it is more comfortable.
@tr33squid
@tr33squid 3 жыл бұрын
What are people's thoughts on the lowest-back option of the Cosm, anyone love it or hate it?
@muriloninja
@muriloninja 3 жыл бұрын
The Cosm with adjustable arms is hard to beat...I am still contemplating going with it over my Embody Gaming Chair.
@giuseppepaolini6754
@giuseppepaolini6754 3 жыл бұрын
how's the embody gaming chair? did you have the opportunity to sit on it and the cosm too? if yes, which chair you recommend for which tasks? overall differences on the experience?
@Fearnath
@Fearnath Жыл бұрын
What did u decide in the end?
@braaitongs
@braaitongs 5 ай бұрын
I tried both of them today and I must say the Cosm was more comfortable. The back is softer than the embody.
@braaitongs
@braaitongs 5 ай бұрын
I went to a HM distributor they had the cosm there. I wasn't even there to test it, but it was actually very good,. The embody felt too hard on my back. The cosm was actually very comfortable.
@braaitongs
@braaitongs 5 ай бұрын
I am looking for a chair which I will use at least 8 - 10 hours a day.
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 2 жыл бұрын
My Cosm has started to give a squeak sound when I sit on it. How can I lubricate it? Cannot find any instructions
@rubendhernandez4748
@rubendhernandez4748 2 жыл бұрын
Easy fix
@ambiva
@ambiva 4 жыл бұрын
What I didn't like about Cosm chair is that there is a "hard stop with noise" when the recline reaches the end (I don't know any reviews that picked up that), which is annoying and does not happen on Embody and Aeron (more dampened and soft). Other than that the overall comfort feels the same as Embody, maybe a little less, however Embody offers much better adjustments so I ended up with Embody.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback! I have not experienced this when using the Cosm, but I can see how that would happen. Without any tension control, some people may be able to recline easier and faster. The stop will be much more abrupt because you cannot tighten the tension to soften the stop. Nice choice with the Embody, it is one of my favorites :) -RB
@ambiva
@ambiva 4 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Sound's like that's reason, FYI I'm 183cm tall 72kg (on the slim side), guess any person that's not "lightweight" will experience something similar. Shame they should really design an additional "damper" to solve this problem
@yxj214
@yxj214 4 жыл бұрын
I can certify that I have the same "hard stop with noise". But it wasn't that big a deal for me cause most of the time I do not recline all the way. But another "noise" problem is much more annoying. When I sit down on the chair, the whole chair sinks a little bit (not the mesh) in the central pillar, which is probably part of the weight-sensing mechanism, the spring makes a small noise, which is ok. BUT, when I stand up, the whole chair pops back and makes a big noise when hitting the end. No one has brought it up. Is it just me?
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
@@yxj214 have you reported it to your seller? You should have warranty
@NINJA_INVESTORS
@NINJA_INVESTORS 9 күн бұрын
A chair for tall people. FINALLY!!!
@HOWARDdlx
@HOWARDdlx 3 жыл бұрын
Have y’all tried the NBF Raleigh High Back Mesh Chair?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
We haven't tried this model out. If you do, let us know your thoughts -GK
@eurosonly
@eurosonly 4 жыл бұрын
What if it starts squeaking? Will that be covered by the warranty?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure how that would be handled. If the squeak is from a defect, then I would think it would be covered. But, it may also fall under normal weak and tear, which wouldn't be covered. I would just reach our the Herman Miller and ask them to be sure. They have really responsive customer service. -RB
@81springbrook96
@81springbrook96 3 жыл бұрын
did u find out?
@mrbass093
@mrbass093 3 ай бұрын
????
@davidhunternyc1
@davidhunternyc1 4 жыл бұрын
What's your top rated ergonomic chair 2019? Thank you.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Our top rated ergonomic chair for 2019 is the Steelcase Leap. Here is a video with our full list: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oMmjbNajx7y4omQ.html -RB
@keithstephan-giermek6314
@keithstephan-giermek6314 3 жыл бұрын
Is it suspicious to anyone else that this is the only Cosm video review on the internet?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Suspicious? How so? -GK
@frankkajtazi989
@frankkajtazi989 4 жыл бұрын
Debating between Embody or Cosm because I'm 6f 4 and worried that the back of the embody might be too short since it has no headrest.Want the chair primarily for gaming so comfort and back support are very important anybody tried both chairs for comparison?
@muriloninja
@muriloninja 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few hours of comparison between the two and it's super hard to choose but I sat in the Cosm again today and it is just awesome. It just feels good as soon as you sit down, no adjustments required (except up/down). What did you decide on? I am sitting in my Embody Gaming Chair now, have had it for two days now.
@giuseppepaolini6754
@giuseppepaolini6754 3 жыл бұрын
@@muriloninja how's the embody gaming chair? did you have the opportunity to sit on it and the cosm too? which chair you recommend for which tasks? overall differences on the experience and why did you choose the embody gaming chair over the cosm?
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to order it without the armrests of any kind?
@xiyx9748
@xiyx9748 3 жыл бұрын
You can saw them off
@b33k34
@b33k34 2 жыл бұрын
@@xiyx9748 or unbolt them
@schoggimah2142
@schoggimah2142 3 жыл бұрын
Guys: I have heard a lot about people having their back being pushed forward (their upper back to be more accurate) as a cause of the way the chairs backseat is formed. Could you give me a max. back height you are allowed to have without being automatically pushed forward by the backrest? Btw: I am 1.75 and a rather small build. (also very low weight) Would this Chair fit me?
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning 3 жыл бұрын
Sad after a month nobody answered you, wow!!
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning
@HamsterLife_EnglishLearning 3 жыл бұрын
What is the recommendation of the backrest height for a person 5'3" tall. Is a tall back going to be less comfortable then a mid size back. Is the tall back more for a tall person?
@AH-vo4fn
@AH-vo4fn 4 жыл бұрын
What chair has the highest comfort score? Also which chair has the broadest appeal?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
The Steelcase Leap for both questions. -RB
@AH-vo4fn
@AH-vo4fn 4 жыл бұрын
BTOD.com thank you, much appreciated..
@pressrepeat2000
@pressrepeat2000 2 жыл бұрын
Most confusing part about this review is that he says the chair forces you to lean back, while other reviewers have specifically said the opposite (that’s it’s really hard to lean back on it, and the chair back pushes you forward to sit upright). Very confusing how two reviewers can have an opposite experience from this… Any views on why that’s the case? I would definitely like to lean back without having to work for it.
@nicoomycousin
@nicoomycousin 2 жыл бұрын
I think it might depend on a combination of your height + weight and how your weight is distributed through your body. I tested the chair the other day at a Design Within Reach location. I’m 5’3” 160lbs and I found it very supportive and easy to sit in an upright, engaged position. I definitely had the experience of the chair pushing me forward to sit upright. My partner is 5’10” 160lbs and had a very similar experience, commenting that he felt so engaged that it was almost like he was standing while sitting in the chair. I found it difficult to recline, but my partner had no problems.
@Esta-Beed
@Esta-Beed Жыл бұрын
This is the most comfortable desk chair I have ever sat on
@LouisChiaki
@LouisChiaki 3 жыл бұрын
Does the front of the seat give pressure on the thighs like Aeron?
@b33k34
@b33k34 2 жыл бұрын
no, since theres no front bar
@sebastiangomez7730
@sebastiangomez7730 3 жыл бұрын
Are the leaf arms removable after receiving the chair?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
No, unfortunately they are not -GK
@sebastiangomez7730
@sebastiangomez7730 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv I messaged Herman Miller and they said they are, they sent me information on how to remove them
@zosterinski
@zosterinski 2 жыл бұрын
no it doesn't want to tilt you back slightly. on the contrary. at least for my 67ish kg weight
@VynZography
@VynZography 5 ай бұрын
You didn't mention the noisy mechanism that clatters when you sit or move around on the chair 😞
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 ай бұрын
Haven’t had that experience. -Ryan
@tzukima
@tzukima 4 жыл бұрын
god i wish that were me
@davidsauceda830
@davidsauceda830 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, looks like it would be perfect for gaming, particularly console gaming.
@phototristan
@phototristan 3 жыл бұрын
I went with the Mirra 2, much better chair.
@Sareth94
@Sareth94 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'2" ... to tall for the high-back to function as a real head-rest, I think :/ Alteast in the images I see, the tall people always end up poking their head over the head-rest ... neck rest, more like. otherwise I'd love this one, but I need something to rest my head on, when leaning back. Why is Herman Miller so allergic to proper headrests? They explicitly made a point of talking about their Embody 'gaming' chair not having one... I know the Aeron has a bunch of 3rd-party aftermarket headrests, but I'm not sure how I feel about mounting something 3rd party to a chair this expensive.
@superiorcheerios4772
@superiorcheerios4772 3 жыл бұрын
An aeron with the atlas headrest might not be too bad to look into! The atlas headrest material is virtually indistinguishable from the aerons material. I believe it was even made by former Herman Miller employees. I wouldn’t rule it out!
@wibbly8011
@wibbly8011 Жыл бұрын
Alright abrasive mesh I’m out. At least on the leaf arms. Sad since they looks so cool but I know myself
@fabiejohnmarkninoc.5217
@fabiejohnmarkninoc.5217 3 жыл бұрын
thats the 'coolest' looking chair ive seen
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty, that's for sure! -GK
@limwowo5902
@limwowo5902 3 жыл бұрын
It's quite like the Dyson of chairs...
@Asbu666
@Asbu666 3 жыл бұрын
If you're above 6'2 or somewhat tall but slightly bigger in the thigh area, don't buy this chair, after researching for a long time I bought one (for ref. I'm 6'2 250lbs/190cm 115kg, pretty muscular with some bodyfat) and the frame was pressing so hard against my thighs that I couldn't sit in it for any reasonable amount of time and had some slight bruising afterwards. If you don't have my bodytype though, by all means go for it, the chair really does lock you in to a very ergonomic position and feels amazing, even the armrests didn't bother me at all while wearing a t-shirt, honestly really sad that they don't make these in three sizes like the aerons, that would have probably made the difference.
@toddfrench8596
@toddfrench8596 3 жыл бұрын
this is my situation as well, so I wonder what has worked for you, Asbu? I'm 6'2" and have muscular thighs - even my Aeron size C pinches a bit on the side of my thighs
@Asbu666
@Asbu666 3 жыл бұрын
@@toddfrench8596 I bought a Steelcase gesture, arrived today, after trying the aeron c, the cosm and the embody and all of them having the same problem to varying degrees, I thought I should probably stay away from Herman Miller. After about 4h of sitting I don't feel any hotspots, the cushion is very firm as is the back support and the arm rests are about perfect for me in their widest setting. We seem to have about the same body type so you might give the Gesture a try if the aeron is uncomfortable.
@toddfrench8596
@toddfrench8596 3 жыл бұрын
@@Asbu666 cool, thanks. I, also, have been considering Steelcase for a while, even though I really favor mesh (living in Southern CA). I see some dealers have the Leap 2 with mesh back, so maybe I'll look at that. Regardless, I'm gonna head to a Steelcase dealer to check these out - sick of receiving and returning office chairs!
@thesetrash5083
@thesetrash5083 3 жыл бұрын
Call center aint no money for a herman miler!
@iadtag1853
@iadtag1853 3 жыл бұрын
All I worry is that my cat using this as a scratch post. Yikes
@Nocure92
@Nocure92 Жыл бұрын
Cos.. or some say Cosm....
@mariocrespimilhem
@mariocrespimilhem 5 ай бұрын
Form follows function. I do not appreciate trolling. I have been using and testing high-end work chairs for decades, both out of necessity and as a hobby. In my experience, the Herman Miller Cosm chair stands out as the least suitable high-end seating option. When considering the principle of form following function, this chair represents the worst example of it. I simply do not have space for decorative pieces better suited for lesser-known museums.
@NINJA_INVESTORS
@NINJA_INVESTORS 9 күн бұрын
This chair isn't for you and that's totally fine. Can't please everyone
@digitalairaire
@digitalairaire 4 жыл бұрын
The weird forward-leaning "leaf" armrests destroy my upper back and shoulders
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I had a tough time using those arms for tasking and computing. They work well for our conference room, which is probably the best use for them. -RB
@digitalairaire
@digitalairaire 4 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv I agree with a lot of your other conclusions about the armrests at 9:19 and am pretty amazed they got past HM's user testing. Your Embody video has just about sold me on that chair instead :)
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
How come? I am in doubt if I should order them. In the store I had no problem with them. But the real test is when you sit an work for 8 hours. Can you dismantle them from the chair after the purchase?
@Vincent-io2iy
@Vincent-io2iy 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv would the leaf arms be good for computer gaming wise?
@b33k34
@b33k34 2 жыл бұрын
@@LencoTB yes, can removed them with a long T30 torx driver (but they were really tight - I used an impact driver...)
@bobsimmons1470
@bobsimmons1470 Жыл бұрын
So silly that for such an enormous price you can't even control the tilt.
@farouqnimer
@farouqnimer Жыл бұрын
If you are 6ft2 and weigh 270lbs, chair is too small. Believe me
@philcliffe6909
@philcliffe6909 2 жыл бұрын
Took delivery of an Aeron recently. Disappointed in the product. Disgusted with customer service.
@wrassmussen
@wrassmussen 4 жыл бұрын
Such an expensive chair but very little adjustments, what a shame.
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
When was simplicity ever a shame?
@b33k34
@b33k34 2 жыл бұрын
if you read the design philosophy that's the whole point. It's designed to fit people without needing adjustment, because most people never adjust their chairs properly anyway, and in many office environments hotdesking is the norm
@SimFoxSim
@SimFoxSim Жыл бұрын
to put long story short - this is AWFUL design. And NO it has nothing really good going for it. It's a monument for complete design failure! Calling this "high end" is absurd. To put it mildly.
@shifeng4868
@shifeng4868 3 жыл бұрын
HM shamelessly copied the design philosophy of Humanscale Freedom, and 20 years later.
@PuneetMehra
@PuneetMehra 4 жыл бұрын
Poor chair design by Herman Miller.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
It is pretty, but not the best option for tasking -GK
@LencoTB
@LencoTB 3 жыл бұрын
On the contrary it is a great design and stands out. Design is subjective and will always be.
@Crewsify
@Crewsify 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I’ve used the COSM high back for tasking in my home office for over two years now and still love it. Only drawback is the leaf arm mesh is uncomfortable on bare skin for extended periods.
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