Well yeah bc it's an obscure thing nobody knows or cares about lol it somehow manages to be even worse than the WNBA which is a real achievement

There's Lawrence Trent throwing a fit then the next day tweeting apologies and saying the fight had been fair after all

@@Patrizsche lol Lawrence knew he was lost on both ends. Aman's younger and a better chess player.

Which automatically makes it the biggest

Just because you don't know something doesn't mean it doesn't exist lol .

Andrea just needed a little more power on those punches and it was definitely a win.

Andrea literally has the energy of a hungry Cheetah with 3 cubs to feed. Perfect

@@leonardolopes5831 I don't think it's the power. It's the lack of skill due to the fact that they only had 6 weeks to train. Her punches were powerful enough to rock Dina and to get her to run. She just didn't know how to cut off the ring, and I guess accuracy is another thing to improve on

Andrea was robbed. Pure and simple.

@@jx14aby She actually was. The official did his third standing count of the round, and fourth standing count of the match. That's a TKO. He made a mistake. 3 knockdowns in 1 round is a TKO, and on top of that, 4 knockdowns in a match is also a TKO. I guess he lost count or something.

Thanks for making this fun event possible! And I hope people aren’t too mean. People get overexcited on the web with complaints and it isn’t nice if it hits you. I imagine being a ref for people who don’t behave in a way you are used to is super difficult in this situation. Thanks again for all of you making this event possible and the great job you did. Would love to see you back for the next one. Have a great day and end of the year! 🥊❄️

Noone got hurt in entire duration of this event despite most of those people being complete newbies to the box. You and your crew did the most important thing correctly, rest is really irrelevent.

Just to be clear (although you obviously already know this and are just trying to save face..), we’re not mad you “coddled” the fight… I mean they’re freaking chess players, of course you have to coddle it. The issue is how disgustingly one-sided your “coddling” was. I mean watch it back again for the millionth time, you are literally doing **everything physically possible** to prevent a TKO by Andrea at all costs. As if there’s real money on the line or some shit lol. Seriously, not even an actual boxer could’ve landed a TKO there because YOU kept interrupting them and preventing any and all chances of it happening. Even Messi can’t do jackshit if you place an elephant in front of the goalpost. Guess that means Messi loses to the elephant, yea? That’s not coddling… that’s robbery. Huge difference.

It was a tough call!

W

Well, you should hear GM Pepe Cuenca comenting on chess, in spanish. It is like a commentator of football ( soccer ).

If gotham sees this comment, he gonna be mad

i thought they were gonna scissor each other

And then file a restraining order maybe

Or the camera. Killing that tactic.

But then it is also every other superlative

@@prathamgarg3967 😂

I thought that's actually Dina..

@@GingY9696 Ya thats Dina, cant wait for the rematch, its gonna break twitter lols.

@@justsaiyansteve rematch yesss😬

I missed that, I thought it might be Alex but maybe her walk is different.

@@justsaiyansteve Unless Dina substantially improve her fitness, Andrea will knock her out in the boxing.

You clearly don't watch a ton of boxing

she looked a lot like mayweather

Chat was going crazy!

Yeah, but also the chess should've ended sooner as well, so...

@@yungyosef Kinda the point of chess boxing, you can knock the elo out of your opponents xD

I was there and damn, Never seen a chat so united

@@liammilne2242 You're right. Andrea knocking the *E L O U T* of her made the Grand Master miss the Obvious Checkmate.

She did throw a spinning backfist at some point

Hell in a cell

The only TLC I know and care about

@@sammythemc I saw that. 😳

Andrea coming for that WWE women's title.

Hey Fender, Just a thought-if ever a rematch; Andrea goes "south-paw". That's entertainment.

There was not good about this fight tbh

@@julius66411 this was the best fight of the night everyone agrees

Women are almost ALWAYS the fight of the night. I watch a lot of professional armwrestling and the same is very true in that world, too. Long grinding matches. When you largely take away the ability for one person to just dominate through pure strength, it makes for a very entertaining matchup, especially if they have to find other ways to come out on top. I think Toasts match was definitely match of the night, but yea.

"good performance in the ring" my guy is simping so hard lmfao

@@LegendJ0e4 my guy is using the word simp in the year of our Lord 2024, feel bad for you man. It'll be okay

Im not sure that dina enjoyed anything that day XD

@@icelandthebest2218 Barely making it so you were saved by the bell isn't enjoyable at the time.

id rather see ksi logan paul number 3

this comment speaks for itself

@@spectator5144 And my mom speaks for myself when calling the doctor to make and appointment because im scared of phonecalls

@@spectator5144 Hans created a movement

@@Zharkan16 the movement speaks for itself

@@masseg6713 just do a lot of phone calls, you'll quickly get used to them

Huh? A fight fan? Show me when Dina was ever wobbled or appeared unable to continue to defend herself. She was a mess at boxing but she was never hurt, Botez didn’t land anything hard enough to wobble her. The boxing was a joke all around

@@mathewpankratz5767 the match was a joke. But Andrea did significantly better than Dina. Period. Andrea controlled the ring and the fight.

@@mathewpankratz5767 i mean there were multiple times were dinas gloves went down or she stopped moving them to block punches. her head got knocked around and she stopped blocking. since they arent professionals that is more than enough to stop the fight. they cant just let dina stand there and take several blows to the head. this isnt professional boxing and nobody wants injury at an influencer boxing match. maybe some blood but no head trauma

@@mathewpankratz5767 You miss the parts of the fight where she turns her back and runs away on numerous occasions? I'm not trying to disrespect Dina, major props for competing and doing so well in the chess. However you can't deny at moments where the ref did interject Dina was on the ropes. Other times she straight up runs away which you just can't do?

@@mathewpankratz5767 Yeah I tend to agree, though I think in a longer match clearly Andrea would have won. Here is what I wrote on another post. First off, Dina was in a different weight category and had to come up to Andrea's, meaning she probably put on more fat than muscle. You can just eyeball the girls and see Andrea is in better shape. In boxing even a 5 pounds/ 2.3 kg weight difference is significant. Second, I guess none of you "boxing fans" ever heard the phrase "saved by the bell"? Below is a copypaste from Quora. I do agree the ref was 'overprotective' however, but that doesn't change the rules or the outcome. You can have refs that also give a quick standing eight count or a slow one, and judges that award too many points to a losing boxer, and so on. Happens a lot and changes nothing. (internet, Quora, on the phrase 'saved by the bell'): "The phrase originated in the sport of boxing. If a boxer is knocked down during a fight, the referee starts counting to ten. The boxer presumably tries to stand up again. If he has not risen to his feet by the time the referee reaches ten, he loses the match, and his opponent is declared the winner by a knockout. But if the bell announcing the end of the round sounds before the referee gets to ten, he stops counting. The round is over, but the match isn’t. The boxer has a moment to go back to his corner and recover before rejoining the fight for the next round. He was saved from losing by the ringing of the bell."

I gotta admit, Dina took that beating and still played the better chess. I mean, how much harder did Andrea have to hit her to bring her gameplay down?!?!

Three standing counts in the same round means succumbing to the storm. Sorry...

I agree - I've had one amateur fight so hardly an expert but zero to 6 weeks? Andrea was very good in my eyes

@@drdiscostu She had that endurance and explosiveness but tbh her punches wouldnt have been enough to ko Dina

@@char.ger-3321 it is hard to KO anyone if they are going to run away like that. IMO it's not that hard to learn "decent" punching technique with 6 weeks but a lot harder to work on footwork and head movement. Andreas is nothing special of course, but I'm sure it is substantially better than mine was 6 weeks into my boxing

No offence, but from the looks of her form, it doesn't look like she's trained at all. The fight was almost as embarrassing as the Ref's calls.

@@drdiscostuEven if Dina had gotten closer she woulve fallen to the floor, but not ko

You dirty dog

"little" fire ball 😃 okkk

@@TheBliepbliep crazy after all the things Dina said and you cringe at that

@@TheBliepbliep You must be new. Botez and trash talking are synonymous. Don't take it seriously.

@@GiDaOneAs a bin regular viewer of hers (basically clicked this video to get an idea of her), it came across as trash talking her opponent instead of the judging, which was my issue. Clearly wasn’t her intention with it though, but if you’re not familiar with her personality it’s quite off putting. I’m all for trash talk on just about anything pre fight and during, but I do like good sportsmanship at the end, especially in the influencer scene. Otherwise you’ll just have angry kids running around and bombarding comment sections with insults.

As as a person who has been playing chess for years and still not very great, I was still rooting for Dina simply because I think that chess is more complicated than boxing and I respect the mental battles over the physical ones. But to be honest, I like all aspects of both, and I have mad respect for Andrea for what she did in the ring.

@@JNB0723 There are a lot of mental battles in boxing that you'll realize if you try it. But of course, it's not on the level of Chess. They are different in their own ways.

participation price lol

I disagree. The actual winner should be declared the winner. And the actual winner was Andrea because 3 standing 8 counts = TKO.

Well ... that's what a boxing referee is supposed to do, protect the boxer. I do agree he should've stopped the match sooner...

@@TheAhille it's definetly not the refs job to actively prevent Andrea from scoring a knockout.

Yeah, he shoulda protected her by ending the fight and calling for botez, like was done like 3 times before in the event

@@TheAhille protect the boxer by DISQUALIFYING Dina by refusal to fight in the first round or second round, turning her back against the fighter 5 times lmao.

@@TheAhille Yes it is, but the protected boxer loses, you don't protect a boxer and then continue the fight

Yeah you're right - she could have teed off on her after that if the ref hadn't stopped her.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAAHHA ANDREA GREMLIN BOTZ

@@jaafer6613 I mean i dunno about that, but the bot is right tho

true story xd

Bro you can't be simping this hard... Her punches weren't even close to being strong lol.

@@toasterlordtoasterlord4224 Some of those swings looked like they had quite a lot of force behind them. Were they precise? Not really, however you could tell she put quite a lot of weight behind all of her punches.

Lmfao bruh!

The fact Andrea was 10 lbs heavier was arguably the bigger controversy. They're not in the same weight category.

I disagree, he had to separate clinches which he did, but at no point was Dina rocked where her legs were wobbly or she appeared unable to continue, there just wasn’t any reason for him to stop it or give another standing 8 count, even the previous ones were pretty generous to Botez. No one experienced in boxing would seriously suggest Botez deserved a TKO there

Why would you stop a fight if she's still standing? You obviously don't watch boxing. That's how refs count in boxing, they count slowly than normal.

Andrea didn't drop Dina. Maybe if Dina got dropped then the ref should've stopped the fight. She was exhausted, not hurt.

If the boxer isn’t fighting back, what’s the point of it continuing. The ref usually stops it if the boxer isn’t fighting back. She was getting outboxed, and no point of it going any further if she is getting completely dominated. That’s my take on it.

@@jazzminchen4204 you stop a fight when the other fighter is no longer able to defend themselves. In this case: Dina. She kept backing up and turning away from Andrea.

Alex what are you talking about? I guess you have never seen Mayweather fight. He rarely gets hit whereas Dina got hit by almost every punch...

Best fight was the last one.. One which Toast won.. It was toe to toe in both boxing and chess.. Andrea had the second best fight with the most controversial final decision

@@devil1994 I love Eric (Pointcrow), so I was pulling heavy, but it felt like he was ever behind in both aspects imo.

Andrea actually did win the fight. 3 standing 8 counts = TKO.

It is absolutely not a new sport. It has been around for a long time.

Why was she bouncing up and down lmao

She had 6 weeks, her form is a joke, never seen someone train that long and have little to show for it.

@@exist yeah man, your videos really show how much you know. You could be the next Ali

@@exist yes, right... usually those who make comments like yours are the people who have never seen the boxing gym, let alone practice it regularly.

@@exist who hurt u 😊

its actually more dangerous as it becomes more of a sustained beating that's the whole point of tkos

A big part of the issue was also on the bell operator. You are never supposed to ring the bell as a count is happening. If the bell wasn't rung, then the outcome would have been clear. That is to say that the error here is on a lot of people, including the ref, the bell operator, and the organizers.

@@bpbradley9 tbf, the ref wasn't even supposed to actually count a 3rd time. Once he starts a 3rd count it's supposed to be over. The ref is the main point of failure, but there's a bunch of people that should've been aware there were 3 counts and the match was over. Whoever the general manager of the event was, the commentators (including Lud who organized the event), and Andrea's team all should've stopped it.

@@88mphDrBrown He's supposed to start the count or call it, but it doesn't matter because the bell went off so it's not clear to him if the count happened before or after the round was complete. Again, he should have brought that to the attention of the organizers immediately and he should have started his count sooner, but the bell operator definitely contributed to the outcome.

The ref has to split them up when they start wrestling instead of boxing, which is what was happening.