She studied extreme psychopaths. Here’s what it taught her about human nature | Abigail Marsh

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Are humans naturally selfless? Psychologist Abigail Marsh is using studies on psychopathy and altruism to find out.
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Abigail Marsh, a psychology and neuroscience professor at Georgetown University, explains how the world is impacted by those with psychopathy, and, additionally, those who practice extreme altruism.
Psychopathy, she says, is a neurodevelopmental disorder affecting a small percentage of people, who are different from a very early age due to their unique brain development. Conversely, she talks about people who are exceptionally altruistic-those who go out of their way to help others, often at great personal risk. These individuals are humble, believe in the goodness of others, and are highly empathetic.
She concludes by explaining that acts of generosity have been increasing on a global scale, and how these trends have proven that it is possible for individuals to change their own natural levels of altruism. Through awareness and action, we can build a more caring and helpful society for ourselves and generations to come.
Please note: We apologize for the errors in our video. In the brain diagram starting at 0:57, "Rostral anterior cingulate cortex" is misspelled, and the diagram mistakenly highlights other brain regions near the intended ones. We always try our best but are disappointed when we get it wrong. Thanks to our wonderful BT audience for your attention to detail!
If you’re curious about your own levels of altruism, Marsh suggests using online tests like the TriPM or HEXACO personality tests.
The TriPM test:
psychopathyis.org/screening/t...
The HEXACO test: survey.ucalgary.ca/jfe/form/S...
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About Abigail Marsh:
Abigail Marsh is a Professor in the Department of Psychology and the Interdisciplinary Neuroscience Program at Georgetown University. She received her PhD in Social Psychology from Harvard University in 2004.

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@rhammond7517
@rhammond7517 4 күн бұрын
The giver in any situation has to learn limits because takers do not have any
@fen4554
@fen4554 9 күн бұрын
My father has pychopathy. He never let it effect his family except for tiny, hidden, isolated pockets. When someone you love suddenly acts like something out of a nightmare, and you can't explain it, and they go back to being normal after... And you're a child. You repress that shit. Over and over. I was in my late 30s when it all starting coming back out of me. When I confronted the rest of my family I realized that they had all been warped by him and 'forgiven' him. No one will acknowleged what he did to us, so I had to walk away from my family. What's worse is I know he hurt other people. Maybe more than that. But I can't prove any of it. I'm complete lost and I have no idea what to do. And yes, I am under the care of a mental health expert, that was my first move because the memories seemed so impossible.
@peaterrepeater4441
@peaterrepeater4441 9 күн бұрын
You‘re a strong person. How did he act out?
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
Does he know he has it, or is that your guess? One of the major researchers on Psychopathy found out HE was a Psychopath via brain scans. Once he did, he modified his behaviors because he understood intellectually how some of what he did was harmful. You have to understand though, that if is is a Psychopath, it's not his fault. He was born that way. Taking it personally or expecting different is like expecting someone without legs to walk normally. It's impossible. Just like it is impossible for your father to change brain structures. Maybe if you look at your memories under the lens that he was not choosing to behave that way it will help. It's the difference between someone smacking you with a branch in anger, and a branch simply falling on you. Both hurt, but the one from the tree does not also hurt you emotionally. Your dad is simply a tree. I hope that helps.
@fen4554
@fen4554 9 күн бұрын
@@shakeyj4523 My father experimented with the edges of human experience. Water boarding especially. He knew he was causing harm. It facinated him. No I don't hold him accountable the same way. My brain can barly process this level of betrayal anyways.
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 9 күн бұрын
Psychopaths are born to be criminals. Evolutionarily programed criminals.
@KNOWHOPE72
@KNOWHOPE72 9 күн бұрын
Sounds like your father has low emotional intelligence. That is why you should find it in your heart to forgive him.
@elizabethwilliams6651
@elizabethwilliams6651 6 күн бұрын
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
@steceymorgan814
@steceymorgan814 6 күн бұрын
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@Jennifer-bw7ku
@Jennifer-bw7ku 6 күн бұрын
Yes, dr.sporessss I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
@patriaciasmith3499
@patriaciasmith3499 6 күн бұрын
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
@steceymorgan814
@steceymorgan814 6 күн бұрын
Is he on instagram?
@Jennifer-bw7ku
@Jennifer-bw7ku 6 күн бұрын
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
@misspatvandriverlady7555
@misspatvandriverlady7555 8 күн бұрын
The trouble is that the people willing to trade morality for money end up in power positions, able to control other people’s lives.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 7 күн бұрын
Isn't it absolutely batshit insane how nowhere in the world this is addressed?
@Michael_H_Nielsen
@Michael_H_Nielsen 6 күн бұрын
So well said 👍
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 5 күн бұрын
@missriverlady... exactly correct. People who seek power, control, and coin are usually the least capable of commanding those things ethically. Carl Sagan constantly refused the idea of "pursuing high offices" or "becoming a governor". In hindsight, he was probably the most capable of being an effective leader out of almost anyone else one could've suggested. Same with F.M. Rogers, to some extent.
@misspatvandriverlady7555
@misspatvandriverlady7555 5 күн бұрын
@@gravity00x Well, SOMEONE has to coordinate things, and some people are DRIVEN to do just that… for their own gain… it would be harder to get more moral people to take these positions, which they would find stressful because they would care what effect their actions had on others. So the cheapest path of least resistance is also the one that wrecks everything for everyone. But that’s why it happens that way! 😵‍💫
@cc1drt
@cc1drt 5 күн бұрын
@@gravity00xIf its so insane then why dont you fix it clownboy?
@MsThe90
@MsThe90 5 күн бұрын
My mother is a psychopath. No words can describe how I have suffered.
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 5 күн бұрын
I'm so truly sorry. I hope you've broken free if she's still alive. 🙏🕊️
@gwynk78
@gwynk78 3 күн бұрын
@@MsThe90 my father is a psychopath. Also my brother and sister. I feel you. I’m still learning how deep the scars go. Some people don’t want to do the work to heal - and I support them if that’s how they feel. It’s more than anyone can imagine. Besides, the problem was never with us. Surviving it as a child with even one shred of identity left is more epic a feat than we can imagine. People just don’t know.
@TT-ww8vv
@TT-ww8vv 3 күн бұрын
​@@gwynk78🫂
@LB-uo7xy
@LB-uo7xy 3 күн бұрын
​@@gwynk78Surprised you somehow made it out alive with not one, but THREE PSYCHOPATH CLOSE FAMILY MEMBERS. Don't psychopaths like to off of people that AREN'T like them and KNOW what THEY ARE? Leave no witnesses while indulging in the bored psychopath need for torture at the same time?
@fen4554
@fen4554 3 күн бұрын
As someone who has been there, I am sorry. You are not nothing, and you deserve to be treated with the same light and love as any human.
@abcabc-uv6ce
@abcabc-uv6ce 8 күн бұрын
you should not be worried about the possibility of being a psychopath. If you were one, you would not worry about it.
@rxop184
@rxop184 5 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@gelosyguat1211
@gelosyguat1211 5 күн бұрын
Bingo
@CanwegetSubscriberswithn-cu2it
@CanwegetSubscriberswithn-cu2it 5 күн бұрын
By that logic, surely everyone being worried is already sign.....
@existentialchaos8
@existentialchaos8 4 күн бұрын
But what if someone is questioning being one? When I was young I self-diagnosed as one because I thought I had traits (I'm not actually one), but I wasn't worried about being one, I didn't really see anything bad with being one actually (I do have a tendency to look at everything with an impartial view). But I was still wondering a lot.
@ataylor702
@ataylor702 4 күн бұрын
This is a great point! Psychopaths would never seek a video like this out. They dont examine their actions in relation to how it makes others feel.
@joebaker478
@joebaker478 8 күн бұрын
When I first started getting into recovery, I couldn't feel what I thought everyone seemed to feel and felt didn't share the connection others appeared to have and t thought I might be a psychopath. When I asked my psychiatrist, they told me psychopaths don't care about being psychopaths.
@nayeon_twiceimnida1654
@nayeon_twiceimnida1654 8 күн бұрын
it's possible that you might have other condition. Autism can be one of the reason.
@BB-fo5mr
@BB-fo5mr 8 күн бұрын
It depends on the psychopath, a tetrad, or extremely narcissistic one - which most are, would care… Because if they were known as a psychopath within their community, they may not be able to manipulate and deceive people as well. So they would care. Therapists, psychotherapists, psychologists… Who don’t understand it fully, Spew a bunch of jargon and superficial rhetoric like “psychopaths don’t care if they’re psychopaths”. When someone uses bumper sticker rhetoric like that - I would be skeptical as to their comprehension of anything. I wouldn’t trust most of them.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
@@BB-fo5mr Nah, psychopaths really don't care. I had two parents and one diagnosed girlfriend...the abuse they covertly heaped on me is astounding. And zero remorse or guilt is so extreme I actually fogive them because that is NOT normal at all...i have borderline and can be friends with psychopaths in crime but always have to dsimiss myself when i see they are getting out of hand..and they always do..because they jsut don't care..even about going to prison themselves. They don't care about anything except what's shiny, new, rich, gorgeous, etc. in front of them..like a dog.
@Echo81Rumple83
@Echo81Rumple83 6 күн бұрын
indeed. the fact that you worried about being truly psychopathic shows that you aren't. it is possible to adopt those tendencies as neurotypicals, i believe, but it's most likely for survivability, which no one should be blamed for if that's the case.
@Sinner1660
@Sinner1660 6 күн бұрын
Edit: Typo. I might have missed more. Confirmed psychopath here. (Via forensic psychologist and two clinical ones. It isn't officially diagnosed. It's a concept not in the DSM 5) Your psychiatrist is speaking too generally over a very nuanced thing. She didn't take the time to explain to you because she likely sees no point. What she should've said... Is that; Whilst psychopaths don't care in the way you or I would.... Those who rarely do come forward always have an end goal in mind and it's usually not to 'recover'. But yes some do indeed approach services or choose to tell them things and not pretend anymore. Again though. Not for reasons I'm guessing people would hope for. Ex: I forced myself to 'out' certain things about myself to professionals simply because I see myself as too good for prison. And I know I'll be there if I don't put some effort into some things. So all I'm manipulating out of my workers are the tools to remain off radar in future. They have no choice but to hope I'm being serious don't they. I can say this because here this is entirely anonymous. I don't much like talking to forensics but needs must. Some of us are capable and WILLING to play the rules for an ultimate goal and sometimes that has included us needing a further looking into. Most of us have known we're psychopaths for years prior to being 'discovered' by professionals. We notice defecits, absences of emotions in ourselves that others describe. We notice how others say our reactions to things and sometimes a lack of reactions aren't appropriate so it just made sense to copy. I don't like people socially whining at me. So anyway until this year I never saw a need to get certain things addressed. (I am 32 as of 2024 June. I have suspected this since I was 17. Known it when I was 20.) In the process of speaking with forensics.. what I've always suspected then known did indeed come to light. We don't ask ourselves, AM I ONE? WHAT IF...? Then run to someone who has an answer. For me it was, Yeah that fits my bill. So? Unless that's useful info it doesn't need my attention. *Proceeds to move on with life in spite of reminders or what people say along the way.* So again she's not entirely wrong but she isn't accurate. As usual when people discuss this topic. Shame it also comes from the 'professionals'. In regards to your own situation... If you don't have a diagnosis of antisocial personality disorder you are not a psychopath. That isn't possible as psychopathy is generally agreed upon as an extreme version of ASPD. Not all people with aspd have psychopathy. All 'psychopaths' have ASPD. Pretty straightforward.. So start from there if you truly have a need to figure it out. Note: It's not a label that usually suits you under services so if you're just a layman wondering... Don't pursue it if you cannot clearly see the reward for yourself at the end and know you can make that happen regardless. For me the reward in knowing this will likely come to their light outweighs the inconvenience of staff being even more wary and suspicious of me. They can't even meet in person on their own anymore it is most peculiar as I have often told them they are helping me it makes no sense to burn that bridge with them. They don't listen. So that is one example of the stupidity people can have when met with those who have such a title. That's my free advice. I have nothing better to do for another 20 mins.
@rob.j.g
@rob.j.g 8 күн бұрын
It’s interesting that we describe psychopathy as a disorder. I think of disorders as things that, if you have them, you suffer because of them. Things like depression or schizophrenia are obvious disorders. But with psychopathy, the suffering it creates is primarily in other people. Of course you can argue that a life with low empathy is unfulfilling, but it’s really not the sort of unmistakable personal suffering of depression or schizophrenia. It seems like psychopathy is defined as a disorder from society’s perspective, an interpersonal perspective, whereas disorders in general are typically defined from an intrapersonal perspective. The locus of suffering is in two different places.
@ZeeZeeNg
@ZeeZeeNg 8 күн бұрын
The clinical definition of disorder simply refers to traits that deviate from the "normal" population, rather than whether the trait itself is positive or negative.
@northstar5919
@northstar5919 8 күн бұрын
NPD creates suffering in other people too.
@jbaguetta
@jbaguetta 8 күн бұрын
Good point. Should probably defined as deviation from the norm causing harm for themselves or others.
@nayeon_twiceimnida1654
@nayeon_twiceimnida1654 8 күн бұрын
@@ZeeZeeNg shouldn't that mean gay people also has disorder?
@sofya6553
@sofya6553 8 күн бұрын
You have made up your own definition of disorder lol
@pancakeface5717
@pancakeface5717 8 күн бұрын
I worked for a psychopathic manager for 10-years, but didn't understand him as such until later, after researching his behaviors. My gut told me there was something different (unwelcoming or similar) about him from my first day on the job. Over the years there were many instances where his behavior made no sense or was unduly confrontational with others. Near the end of my time working for him I started questioning him about this or that action. Bad idea. He turned on me as I had seen him turn on a number of other people over the past years: with cool, calculated and unrelenting cruelty. It's truly hard to imagine how psychopaths operate if you aren't one. Ordinary people just don't think that way.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
I had a psychopathic boss but he was mostly in a good mood beause the company was new and OH MY GOD could he sell..he'd sit down and make 1/2 million in a few hours. Nobody could touch him because he simply didn't care if the customer woudl be stuck with the stuff and pushed into bankruptcy,
@marksmith5106
@marksmith5106 7 күн бұрын
I think most attorneys are that way only they're not selling. They're yanking and banking
@infinitejest441
@infinitejest441 5 күн бұрын
Narcissists have those traits as well.
@user-hv6gt1nm4d
@user-hv6gt1nm4d 5 күн бұрын
Sounds like a tough situation, not sure if I would say he had psychopathy, but he definitely had problems with trusting others, when you got 'too close' by your own judgement he 'pushed you away'. I think your boss needs love, or is afraid of it.
@pancakeface5717
@pancakeface5717 5 күн бұрын
@@user-hv6gt1nm4d He had other traits that went to the extreme. He kept everyone on the team off balance, suspecting each other of being in his confidence, and creating chaos in general. He's give orders before leaving town then grill people for having followed them when he returned, claiming he'd never given those instructions. People would look at each other with WTF eyes and deal with it. My story is that I didn't understand anything about such behaviors until he and I had parted company. I was damaged by his treatment of me and wanted to know what brought it to such a high level of cruelty. In my research I found he ticked all of the boxes for psychopathy but not sociopathy. He was too cool, too self-controlled, emotionally violent toward others but not physically.
@posthocprior
@posthocprior 5 күн бұрын
My dad is a psychopath. All of the definitions, in this video, he fits. He ruined my and my sister’s childhood. It took a long, long time for me to find a life that was independent from his destruction. I haven’t talked to him in 26 years. Since that time, I’ve not only recovered but have started to thrive. I have a successful business and long term friendships. Nonetheless, even though I’m now middle aged, my dad continues to be the most destructive and evil person I’ve ever met.
@reitapresley925
@reitapresley925 5 күн бұрын
stay true to the human side of you. he is not there for you you should NOT be there for him. he will consume you, & you will be lost. save yourself.
@gwynk78
@gwynk78 4 күн бұрын
Me too. I escaped from my father with psychopathy four years ago. I had to also go no contact with my mom and three siblings because they were so well trained to give him what he wanted they could not protect me and my personal information and would become targets to be used as a way to hurt me. Destruction of the family and family members was our family activity. No one leaves their family unless it’s completely necessary. Family is just too important to being a human. Thanks for sharing your success story. I’m thriving since I got away. But still trying to build up a social network. Me and my two dogs stick together though. And we’re gonna make it.
@robertperry4439
@robertperry4439 3 күн бұрын
I believe that there is a neural psycho chemical explanation for psychopathy that is attributable to either environmental or genetic abnormalities. My mother divorced my father when I was three; she told me later that it was because his personality had changed when he was in the Korean war. I can personally attest to his psychopathic behavior. He as much as confessed to killing his girlfriend because she would not get an abortion; as he put it, "I took care of that problem. Her body was found in the Missouri river downstream from a bridge that he would take me to fish. Just the way that he coldly referred to her death convinced me that he was a murderer. This incident was only one of many incidents that left me with no doubt that he was a psychopath.
@LB-uo7xy
@LB-uo7xy 3 күн бұрын
​@@robertperry4439The Korean war only brought his psychopathy to surface. You're BORN with psychopath a.k.a ASPD Factor 1. ASPD factor 2 is created, but usually in childhood to adolescence. It's EXTREMELY RARE to have Factor 2 ASPD be created at the age of 19-20 years old, only 5 years away before the human brain is fully formed and the window of change is closed forever.
@fen4554
@fen4554 3 күн бұрын
That's encouraging... I only broke away 5 years ago, and I'm already middle aged. I know I have a long road ahead of me, especially since my father made a point of keeping us all very close and connected as part of his smokescreen. Breaking away was a messy affair. I hope both you and you sister broke away together. I, for the most, part had to leave my siblings behind.
@CulturePropaganda
@CulturePropaganda 8 күн бұрын
Flaws in society make it easy for psychopaths to blend in. Specifically how society promotes competition and dominance hierarchies. Sports culture, the educational system, celebrity worship and capitalism all allow psychopaths & sociopaths to thrive. Cut throat competition is rewarded and the people who are successful at competition are the people most socially rewarded and romantically desirable.
@fieryrebirth
@fieryrebirth 7 күн бұрын
Yep, the erosion of egalitarian values in culture allow for functionally evil people to thrive.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
@Novastar.SaberCombat 5 күн бұрын
Yup. In a nutshell, humanity can be easily summarized by: "if you ain't rich, then you ain't sheet. And if you ain't first, then you don't matter". If you want to "win", you must CRUSH everyone and everything beneath your boots. 💪😎✌️ No exceptions. That's mankind's most methodical methods over the millenia.
@RayneNikole
@RayneNikole 5 күн бұрын
I'd argue that they're the ones that forged out those places for themselves in society. Psychopaths coming into power which means a higher ability to change social norms
@fieryrebirth
@fieryrebirth 5 күн бұрын
@@RayneNikole Yep, psychopaths have no place in a culture with egalitarian values. It's not much of a secret that the most powerful people are sociopaths, malignant narcissists, or psychopaths, in positions that don't require ethics or morals. Even if they aren't with those disorders, the power, materialism, and insulation will make you one.
@PATISLAV
@PATISLAV 5 күн бұрын
Also how people praise emotionless, calm and calculated people over the emotional ones in political and other discussions. I've been ciritized so many times by pears for discussing too emotionally, hence being the wrong one.
@62Cristoforo
@62Cristoforo 6 күн бұрын
Psychopaths don’t not care; they are INCAPABLE of emoting care. They lack the neurophysiology required for such a feeling.
@FinlayDaG33k
@FinlayDaG33k 4 күн бұрын
"incapable" isn't the correct word , "less capable" would be more accurate.
@user-di6pk8ez2y
@user-di6pk8ez2y 2 күн бұрын
@@62Cristoforo They are very charismatic IMITATORS of emotion, body language and MASK to manipulate their vulnerable prey. They are simply HUMAN PREDATORS.
@ckomarec
@ckomarec 9 күн бұрын
"We all do better when we all do better" -Paul Wellstone
@darksunshine99
@darksunshine99 8 күн бұрын
So basically one needs to be selfish to be altruistic.
@Anson120
@Anson120 8 күн бұрын
Income inequality goes exactly to that.
@j.m.1806
@j.m.1806 7 күн бұрын
And just say no? Ugh
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 5 күн бұрын
@@darksunshine99 psychopathic altruism
@rishi2791
@rishi2791 5 күн бұрын
We all do better when we individually do better
@sebastionheitzmann3233
@sebastionheitzmann3233 9 күн бұрын
I think my mom is very altruistic, and I think she raised us to be very altruistic as well. I‘m personally trying to distance myself a bit from this altruism, because I think it brought me more pain than goodness. To give some examples: during my student days I empatized with a homeless guy that much that I made an appointment with him two days later to give him even more money (20 CHF, which was a lot for me at age 15). Or I lost a part of my friends group trying to socially integrate a pretty toxic guy. Altruism can be really rewarding, but at a certain level its pretty stressful to feel responsible for everyone. So I wouldnt frame extreme altruism as a state which we should personally be aming for. It can be rewarding, but not in contrast to the effort you will put in (depending on where you are at the spectrum).
@sebastionheitzmann3233
@sebastionheitzmann3233 9 күн бұрын
Just remembered it extends to animals, I spent whole afternoons trying to safe rainworms laying on the streets before a bycicle got them.
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
I don't think she ever said it was something to aim for. Of course what you are leaving out is that if everyone was like you, your experience would be much different.
@SneakySteevy
@SneakySteevy 9 күн бұрын
« Nothing is more useful to someone than another human. » Barruch Spinoza
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 9 күн бұрын
​@@SneakySteevyTrained pet animals are more useful.
@SneakySteevy
@SneakySteevy 9 күн бұрын
@@al-imranadore1182 not around me
@AlfonsoGavilanes
@AlfonsoGavilanes 5 күн бұрын
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, alcoholism, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
@AlexanderNoah-ot3ie
@AlexanderNoah-ot3ie 5 күн бұрын
Congrats on your recovery. Most people don't realize that psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives.
@SurprisedFruitBowl-qj9oy
@SurprisedFruitBowl-qj9oy 5 күн бұрын
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
@Francesca-hm1yb
@Francesca-hm1yb 5 күн бұрын
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in Switzerland. Really need!
@AlexanderNoah-ot3ie
@AlexanderNoah-ot3ie 5 күн бұрын
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
@kumarshaikh3410
@kumarshaikh3410 5 күн бұрын
Shrooms saved me from meth addiction too. Psychedelics could really help addicts a lot!
@abstractedaway
@abstractedaway 8 күн бұрын
Having witnessed some extreme cases of malignant narcissism and struggled to describe their behavior behind closed doors, I can tell you several things: * Extreme cases of any one disorder out of the dark triad of malignant narcissism, psychopathy, and machiavellianism as personality disorders tend to contain some degree of the other two, * These individuals are a whole another ballgame to deal with compared to the usual jerks society prepares us to face; they are are *not* normal, and most of their damage gets done while you're trying to relate to them or trust them as if they were, * Much as it's troubling that much of our society doesn't comprehend this psychology outside of fictional thrillers and horror stories, it backhandedly does say that most of us are differently wired from this at a very basic level; humanity on the whole isn't broken, we're better than this. The more aware we are of these disorders, the better we can contain the damage they do when they appear in individuals with influence or power.
@northstar5919
@northstar5919 8 күн бұрын
Yes, traits overlap in many disorders.
@MiteshDamania
@MiteshDamania 8 күн бұрын
We are not taught about the red flags, But thanks to KZfaq, there are many videos on narcissism to Enlight us now
@Dorota-wi8pd
@Dorota-wi8pd 7 күн бұрын
Brilliant!
@Echo81Rumple83
@Echo81Rumple83 6 күн бұрын
amen and here-here.
@brodyodle6693
@brodyodle6693 6 күн бұрын
​@@MiteshDamaniawell instinctively we do... red flag ....red flag .... Pattern I might be dating myself but I didn't have KZfaq when I was growing up... Red flag red flag pattern stay away from that dude
@knowledgeisablessing8767
@knowledgeisablessing8767 7 күн бұрын
People will say "how do you know someone has a personality disorder if they haven't been diagnosed?" Well, because we suffer with them, and they harm us before they get help. We are the ones who let them know they aren't well in the head before a mental health professional does. We lived it.
@sblbb929
@sblbb929 3 күн бұрын
Alot of people here just self-diagnose people though, simply because someone was cruel or uncaring or manipualtive or narcissistic to them. even just a partner who was an asshole to them or didn't love them That's simply wrong and I don't think it's good idea to assume people in your life are just irreversibly and clinically "bad". My father is a clinically diagnosed narcissist, he also was cruel to me at times. I know how that feels. But hadn't I known better I'd have self-diagnosed him as a psycho as well ... and would have been wrong.
@malpal1213
@malpal1213 9 күн бұрын
“If only everyone were more humble like I am…”
@WaterproofSoap
@WaterproofSoap 9 күн бұрын
that would be amazing..... but, if you could set aside your humility for a moment, could you please tell me why EVERYONE thinks I'm paranoid?
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 8 күн бұрын
infact i'm the MOST humble!
@jillianohalloran
@jillianohalloran 8 күн бұрын
😂😂
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 8 күн бұрын
@@WaterproofSoap Cause you are paranoid.
@mephenigma
@mephenigma 8 күн бұрын
😂
@gemeinschaftsgeful
@gemeinschaftsgeful 9 күн бұрын
Civilization needs to be protected from psychopaths.
@Ubermench-uy7dw
@Ubermench-uy7dw 9 күн бұрын
And you liked your own comment
@lancelot2900
@lancelot2900 9 күн бұрын
Psychopathic traits are super important stone age era they played big role in survival of civillisation 1:47 1:47
@Pandcakes936
@Pandcakes936 9 күн бұрын
@@Ubermench-uy7dw How can you tell that they liked their own comment? Lol
@Ubermench-uy7dw
@Ubermench-uy7dw 9 күн бұрын
@@Pandcakes936 can't reveal my secrets
@Pandcakes936
@Pandcakes936 9 күн бұрын
@@Ubermench-uy7dw Oh come on. Makes me wonder what else you can see? 👀
@evelanpatton
@evelanpatton 9 күн бұрын
Take Away: NOTE: Policies that promote general well being & abundance create environments of abundance & well-being. (As opposed to scarcity & selfishness at the detriment of others.)
@Jhawk_2k
@Jhawk_2k 8 күн бұрын
But life is a zero sum game! /s
@curcumin417
@curcumin417 8 күн бұрын
Good highlight ✨️
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 8 күн бұрын
Lead poisoning
@naka8919
@naka8919 6 күн бұрын
Communism failed every time it was tried
@M.J.212
@M.J.212 5 күн бұрын
Wonder if "Conservativism" is psychopathic?
@Deelynn-woohoo
@Deelynn-woohoo 4 күн бұрын
My parents said my sister screamed all night long, unless they took her for a ride. So from birth almost, she was problematic. She was loved and catered to but never seemed happy. She was able to lie and seemed to believe it. She would take offense at something and simply cut us off for years at a time. I looked up to her and loved her, but she never seemed to like me. She was the cause of so much grief to my mom and dad, yet because she was so mean somrtimes, I think they tried even harder, as though it was something they had done wrong to cause it. You never knew what she would be like if you stopped by, and I tried to avoid it unless invited. When they were out of work a while, i brought groceries, bought her things i couldn afford, like a computer, gave her a car to use when hers died, with the caveat that she give it back when done with it, as i had wanted to give it to my sons young friend who had juvenile diabetes and couldnt afford a car. I stopped by one day a couple months later and she had a smile on her face, one i had seen many times and it usually produced fear of something bad she was going to do to me. She casually dropped into random conversation, that they has sold the car for scrap...for $125.00. I had just put new tires on it which were $250.00. I tried not to give any hint of emotion at all, but i was shocked at this one. My husband made some excuse to leave and we did. I feel so bad for her and know somethi g is terribly wrong, but don't know what. The more I tried to do for here, the more she hated me-- i guess because i could do it, and she resented that. Poor thing. Finally i had to realize it was hopeless and she was me tally ill i. Some way none of us understood. I wish her the best, but havent heard from her in 5 years. I miss the times she was near-normal and i could pretend all was well and we had a normal sister relationship. So very sad.
@user-eg9yx1ih6s
@user-eg9yx1ih6s 9 күн бұрын
I feel we help psycho hide themselves because we hide our intuition from ourselves
@Buddhavibez
@Buddhavibez 9 күн бұрын
This comment makes sense, I think the same
@geoffwatches
@geoffwatches 9 күн бұрын
I mean, they appear outwardly normal, and they're pretty rare so it's hardly rocket science.
@Infoagemage
@Infoagemage 9 күн бұрын
Hunches and intuitions are wrong often
@Buddhavibez
@Buddhavibez 9 күн бұрын
@@Infoagemage is that your opinion or do you have anything to back your claim
@fen4554
@fen4554 9 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Especially when you encounter them firsthand, or god forbid you have them as a parent. It takes a long time to realize just how messed up they treat you. No one wants to believe in real monsters.
@ThaFunkster100
@ThaFunkster100 8 күн бұрын
This was very interesting. There are practices in Buddhism aimed at generating more love and compassion, called the Four Immeasurables. I myself practiced these for four years and my personality completely changed, I went from overreactive and hypersensetive to rarely ever taking things personally and holding a grudge, I also become more open and friendly towards others.
@bitofwizdomb7266
@bitofwizdomb7266 5 күн бұрын
Buddhas teachings are so insightful
@Here4TheHeckOfIt
@Here4TheHeckOfIt 4 күн бұрын
This practice can be a struggle. Good for you for sticking to it
@priskruger314
@priskruger314 4 күн бұрын
It's strange how cruel they are in countries where buddhism is the main or or one of the main religions. Like in the country of enfin nobel prize winner ang suu kyi. Driving out and mutilating people's babies even. Another injustice that doesn't matter to the rest of the world.
@AP-pm9qy
@AP-pm9qy 4 күн бұрын
Interesting, as a Christian I’ve noticed similar changes
@ThaFunkster100
@ThaFunkster100 3 күн бұрын
@@AP-pm9qy Interesting, its probably because you are focussing on love and compassion and opening your heart, which is the same thing.
@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife
@DeniseCoelhoEnglishForLife 7 күн бұрын
I am extremely empathetic and it is very painful. I also look around and find everybody crazy and psychopathic in many instances. I find it crazy how people will walk by a homeless person and not bat an eye. Meanwhile, i oftrn will struggle to fall asleep thinking of things like that over which i ahve no power
@cocojo2002
@cocojo2002 7 күн бұрын
🩷
@Michael_H_Nielsen
@Michael_H_Nielsen 6 күн бұрын
What a beautiful soul you have 😀👍
@OoLiiMiiT3D
@OoLiiMiiT3D 5 күн бұрын
Sounds like something a psychopath would say. Just kidding
@IvySnowFillyVideos
@IvySnowFillyVideos 5 күн бұрын
I cannot walk by a homeless person with-out tears 😢 its very painful
@Daniel-py6rd
@Daniel-py6rd 5 күн бұрын
I think it's just that people accept they can't control certain things. Not due to lack of empathy. Also, you don't actually know the person, if they are good or whatever, so can be more selective with empathy. I find homelessness sad but I won't allow it to consume me in any way as I don't know the person, don't know if I would even like them or they would care about me and I know I can't really do much to help anyway.
@Kotifilosofi
@Kotifilosofi 5 күн бұрын
I feel like the thing people struggle to understand about psychopathy (ASPD) the most is the fact that it's literally nothing personal. They have nothing especially against you, they just simply care equally little about everyone.
@kellyherrin
@kellyherrin 5 күн бұрын
ASPD is another label for (or at least, very similar to) sociopathy, not psychopathy.
@Kotifilosofi
@Kotifilosofi 4 күн бұрын
@@kellyherrin I think ASPD (anti-social personality disorder) is the only official diagnosis, sociopath and psychopath are just describing labels, psychopathy you're "born with", sociopathy has a cause in the early childhood. And the ability of experiencing empathy is a bit different: psychopath totally lacks it, sociopath is capable of experiencing it to some extent, but can "switch it off" to do horrible things. Please let me know how you think it's different!
@user-zl7pw9zu9s
@user-zl7pw9zu9s 4 күн бұрын
no , A hard dissagree , a psychopath can easly feel irritated or hatefuk towards you . and since they cant feel bond or love with people (they feel connection but not a bond , like a reptile if you would say) nor they can have empathy , they would only care about fulfilling their desires and what benefit them , witch is harming you. so they feel hate and desire to hurt , byt not a desire to love and help , and their lack of empathy and ability to connect with other people ;makes makes it easier .
@crothschild
@crothschild 4 күн бұрын
I think of them as sharks. Sharks are cool and fun to watch, but if you mess with them and get bit, it's a little bit your fault. It's in their nature to lash out. For example, one of the reasons my mother in law hates me is that I never give her any personal information she might potentially use against me. She would obviously use it eventually, and it would be my fault to not have the foresight to keep that chum out of the water. You can be around psychopaths, but you need an extra level of awareness and precaution.
@Kotifilosofi
@Kotifilosofi 4 күн бұрын
@@user-zl7pw9zu9s I kinda agree kinda disagree. Or maybe you didn't get my point? They can feel hate and anger, and anger towards a specific person. But their tendency to feel hate and anger and simultaneously the lack of empathy is due to their neurological deviancy. They often do like to provoke people to get their reaction, just to have something happening (they get very easily bored). But _that_ is nothing personal, they just want some stimulation and they don't care it's happening by your's (anyone's) expense. That's not personal.
@ahzigos
@ahzigos 4 күн бұрын
I know someone who drove for miles and jumped into the mud to save a dog, then contacted the local radio station to find the owners all for a completely unknown dog but then ran over his own dog in the driveway and just left him to die careful with those real life Homelanders...
@Pemulis1
@Pemulis1 8 күн бұрын
Ten experts will give ten different explanations of the difference between psychopathy and sociopathy (psycopathy is innate and sociopathy is learned is a big one). Also, I've seen a lot of evidence that more affluent people are actually less generous. If you recognize a lot of charitable activity of the wealthy as the tax avoidance / influence buying that it actually is I think that dynamic becomes more clear.
@TwattyWankers
@TwattyWankers 8 күн бұрын
Agreed
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
I got ptsd and quit coding..the day i went homeless (for just a month in 2015) i discovered poor people are SO MUCH KINDER than people not even rich..just with good jobs.
@onsidelegal1002
@onsidelegal1002 6 күн бұрын
exactly. ppl who think bill clinton and bill gates are beneficent and charitable are beyond naive. "Charities" tend to be tax shelters at best and low overhead profit industries at worst (imagine doing nothing other than saying youll give donated money to some heartwarming cause and then keeping whatever percentage you think is "fair" and justify it as "operating expenses"
@IvySnowFillyVideos
@IvySnowFillyVideos 5 күн бұрын
I've seen many affluent people who are generous. If you meet a psychopath there gonna be selfish whether rich or poor.
@DonkiDonkey
@DonkiDonkey 5 күн бұрын
That is because poor people can't AFFORD to be generous. So if they do give, it says a lot. But when you are rich, no matter how generous you are, people still won't think it is enough. I swear those who complaints about the rich not giving enough, are also the ones that never gave anything back to society.
@jameshatton4405
@jameshatton4405 4 күн бұрын
Very informative. Probably is worthwhile pointing out that psychopaths are drawn to altruistic people! You're like beacon for them to target by being nice
@TorgerVedeler
@TorgerVedeler 9 күн бұрын
This is a good and thoughtful description. And I like that it doesn’t just focus on psychopaths. It’s easy to fall into that trap in today’s world, where the news seems so dominated by bad actors. For myself, I’ve learned to be more careful than I used to be, but I also try my best to be kind unless experience tells me I shouldn’t be. Human social relationships aren’t easy, are they?
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 7 күн бұрын
They are very easy for normal people. It would be a lie to say they weren't. Relationships are only hard for or with neurodivergent people.
@km-sc4kz
@km-sc4kz 5 күн бұрын
​@@gravity00xsometimes it might be that we just didn't learn the skills to get along with people. once you figure that it will get easier
@Here4TheHeckOfIt
@Here4TheHeckOfIt 4 күн бұрын
They can be easy or difficult. It all depends on the people you're around, and the state you're in. Most of the time, people are OK as long as you're not in a bad place. Things always change so that is something to look forward to
@pankajmahanta7493
@pankajmahanta7493 5 күн бұрын
I know a person who is elderly, he is one of the most soft spoken, diplomatic and superb person when sober. When when he gets drunk, boy o boy he erupts with negativity. Not that I am being judgemental, but I am really curious why?! Does it mean the person has suppressed lot of negetive emotions when sober and somehow the filter is removed when he is drunk?!
@patnor7354
@patnor7354 3 күн бұрын
Yes. In vino veritas. He then doesn't consider consequences and the real man comes out.
@pankajmahanta7493
@pankajmahanta7493 3 күн бұрын
@@patnor7354 But which is the real personality, when sober? Or when drunk?
@thehunt510
@thehunt510 5 күн бұрын
my upbringing and memories of development has strong ties into psychopathy. however, my habits and practices of building peace has strong ties to altruism. this blend of the proposed spectrum is something I'm learning to value within me. also accepting that my psychopathic nature isn't wrong, just can be dangerous if allowed to construct my beliefs without mindfulness.
@user-di6pk8ez2y
@user-di6pk8ez2y 2 күн бұрын
@@thehunt510 Mindfulness training is the “enemy of woke” lol. It is the perceptual treatment and life training to a more satisfying self journey.
@Carvgoo
@Carvgoo 5 күн бұрын
A guy I used to date told me he was diagnosed from early age as psychopath and at first I didn't believe him but I started noting certain attitudes that were unusual for me, he was able to portray empathy on an intellectual level only but not able to actually have true empathy. In the end, I wasn't able to be with him because I knew that I needed a connection in an emotional level with a couple. I know that most people have these horrible stories about having a relationship with a psychopath, but I just don't see him that way, I know that he sees the world way different than I do and he is aware of his inability to feel concern about others, therefore he has learned how to navigate this world and how to understand the other people's point of view. I believe that if most psychopaths were treated at an early age, they would learn how to build healthy relationships with others.
@user-di6pk8ez2y
@user-di6pk8ez2y 5 күн бұрын
Psychopaths can be so charming and superficial. There social, emotional interactions tend to be not authentic but can be extremely convincing. They can be excellent readers of situations and body language. However, they may intentionally mislead and disguise their lack of true emotional connection with imitated or learned responses to manipulate their partners. This can make them dangerous in relationships.
@visi7891
@visi7891 3 күн бұрын
yeah psychopaths need education from a young age. that will help i think. it's so scary tho as a parent
@sblbb929
@sblbb929 3 күн бұрын
Yep. People tend to think psychopathy means "born evil". But they're just as likely to be inherently evil as you're average person. It's all about what environment they grow up in, the types of parents, the moral education, early diagnosis and treatment. Most people affected suffer in a unique way. The same way a deaf person does. They want to be normal and fit in but they know you are closed off from an entire aspect of life. There is a closed door that will never open to you and behind of which everyone you know seems to be happy
@user-di6pk8ez2y
@user-di6pk8ez2y 2 күн бұрын
@@Carvgoo It is extremely difficult to comprehend another person’s “perceptual cognition”. Psychopathy is seen now as being on a spectrum. It is not a psychopathology that is truly capable of functional emotional relationships. They can imitate for long enough to have families, if that is their life goal, but often their partners end-up being deceived, realizing their spouse with psychopathy was not authentically and emotionally engaged with them. Their words and actions were superficial.
@user-di6pk8ez2y
@user-di6pk8ez2y 2 күн бұрын
@@visi7891 I agree, but this psychopathy “socialization” will not change their neurological structure. It can modify some individuals on parts of the spectrum but there will always be the dangerous psychopaths, until our neuro science advances to treat them.
@michaelryan2416
@michaelryan2416 4 күн бұрын
The reason most people do good is because they benefit from it in a spiritual sense. So if seen from that perspective , it can be argued that we are selfish
@cassiellightman
@cassiellightman 4 күн бұрын
You do good for that reason and you think everyone acting good under your criteria and isn't true. Someone said the lion think everyone is under its condition. I do good things because make me feel good not to be recognized o make me feel deserve heaven. I'm not religious person and most of my kind acts I keep it for myself or I do things under the shadows without a face and name.
@michaelryan2416
@michaelryan2416 4 күн бұрын
@@cassiellightman I agree. My point was that people do good because one way or another they believe that it’s gonna benefit them. Spiritually or materially
@peculiarlittleman5303
@peculiarlittleman5303 8 күн бұрын
It's important that, when you do something worthwhile for people, animals, earth, you need to be discrete and shut-up about it. Else it can just be a new variant of self-promotion. A flavor, of the many flavors, of narcissism. I saw this sh!t all the time in, supposedly, spiritual fellowships.
@markaurelius61
@markaurelius61 4 күн бұрын
Well said. Just what Jesus said.
@priskruger314
@priskruger314 4 күн бұрын
Sometimes sharing original/new/exciting ways to help can help others use it as well. An example is Auriikatarina here on KZfaq she cleans the homes of the depressed for free. Ot has led others to do this as well in their own countries and even led to international collabs doing this
@ZZ-qy5mv
@ZZ-qy5mv 3 күн бұрын
I think it's be great if people promoted it to inspire young people to do the same actually. I think we want to help people more when we see other people help people. That's a big part of why people even are attracted to churches.
@markaurelius61
@markaurelius61 2 күн бұрын
@@ZZ-qy5mv I think it is great for groups or organisations to talk about what they do. But if individuals start humble-bragging, it turns sour.
@mikitz
@mikitz 2 күн бұрын
@@markaurelius61 'When I die, under no circumstances base an entire religion around me' - Jesus (disputably)
@kathiehope
@kathiehope 8 күн бұрын
For anyone interested in the brain regions @ 0:59 it’s the rostral anterior cingulate* cortex!
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 9 күн бұрын
I wanna be selfish for my own benefit but there's a point where I can't help myself to help others big or little things and I assume I'm not the only one thinking like this
@HAPPLIP
@HAPPLIP 9 күн бұрын
You sound like the type that takes care of themselves for others. Rather than takes care of themselves for themselves. Altruistic people sometimes think putting themselves first is selfish when it's simply self care. Don't guilt yourself!
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
That sounds pretty normal to me.
@Pandcakes936
@Pandcakes936 9 күн бұрын
@@HAPPLIP I get this. I used to be a severe people pleaser. I still care for people but there's those people that care too much about themselves - self-centered/callous - and call it "self-care". In a way, it's a form of self-sabotage.
@HAPPLIP
@HAPPLIP 9 күн бұрын
@Pandcakes936 100% agree. You can never predict who is genuinely doing self care vs. those manipulating the word for personal gain. They're out there, and all we can do is recognize and move onto the genuine people out there.
@FinlayDaG33k
@FinlayDaG33k 4 күн бұрын
I do also beg do differ a bit tho, viewing it from the other side where, psychopathy and altruism are two survival strategies. From an evolutionary perspective, it could make sense for both cases: - People with psychopathy would have little to no empathy towards others, allowing them to take out competition more easily and producing their own offspring that way. - People with altruism would have the community on their side, so whatever offspring they may have produced, had a higher chance of surviving because others would be more inclined to help you out naturally. While it may seem as if one is "selfish" while the other is "selfless", both could be considered "selfish" as the entire goal would be the survival of _your_ genes.
@noshit61
@noshit61 5 күн бұрын
It does make me feel good to help people in need, but it also makes me feel good to help animals that are in need. Baby turtles, bumblebees, I keep my eyes open for them.
@sblbb929
@sblbb929 3 күн бұрын
Bravo! You're an Angel. The best person in this comment section, or dare I even say, alive
@psicologiajoseh
@psicologiajoseh 6 күн бұрын
Extreme empathy (or sensitivity to others' feelings of discomfort), like the extreme lack of it, can be clinically significant. Many people suffer because of this trait. These individuals are generally not altruistic but very insecure, exploitable, and it's easy to trigger high levels of shame in them (which makes them vulnerable to emotional control). Some of their actions may be labeled as “generous,” but they stem from fear (fear of being bad people or harming others if they don't go to extremes to alleviate others' discomfort). As a psychology researcher, I would argue that this is the actual oposite of psychopathy. If psychopathy is an inherited temperament, its opposite would also have to be an inherited temperament. What she refers to as the opposite of psychopathy is not a temperamental inclination but a cluster of behaviors and (good) rationalizations related to cultural norms adopted as a result of the socialization of the individual in accordance to altruistic values. For example, a typical person (not at either extreme) would feel comfortable setting limits for their child, even if it causes temporary discomfort. A highly sensitive person towards others' suffering, on the other hand, wouldn't be able to, to the detriment of the child's healthy socialization, obviously.
@hauntedstormbird
@hauntedstormbird 3 күн бұрын
What would you call someone with extreme empathy to the point they can't discipline or say no, as you described in your comment? Is there a name for that disorder?
@ivapolansky8004
@ivapolansky8004 2 күн бұрын
@@hauntedstormbird ⬜Normal people would call him/her a weakling.
@hauntedstormbird
@hauntedstormbird 2 күн бұрын
@@ivapolansky8004 Not asking what normal people would call it, I wanted a professional's advice. But thanks.
@laurendoe168
@laurendoe168 9 күн бұрын
While pyschopathy exists, this does not mean that everything we do isn't done for selfish reasons; psychopaths lack "enlightened self-interest." Even the most altruistic person derives some pleasure in being altruistic - the question I raise is: If that positive feedback loop didn't exist, would that person still be altruistic? Certainly some would, but it is my belief that the percentage at this edge of the spectrum is about the same as the percentage who are at the other edge - truly psychopaths.
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
If the brain structures are not there, and there are no alternate structures that can fill in, it simply does not exist.
@orbismworldbuilding8428
@orbismworldbuilding8428 9 күн бұрын
In therapy they try to teach enlightened self interest cognitively to psychopaths and people with ASPD
@laurendoe168
@laurendoe168 8 күн бұрын
@@orbismworldbuilding8428 A true psychopath would simply use these lessons to learn how to take advantage of people. In other words, they'd use enlightened self-interest as a weapon. "They will do this for me if I convince them it's in their self-interest."
@laurendoe168
@laurendoe168 8 күн бұрын
@@shakeyj4523 While some brains are seriously different from the "norm," they are extremely rare. I'd venture to say that, barring some form of birth defect (be it genetic or environmental in nature), 99% of babies have the same "brain structure." In other words, I'd say that the vast majority of psychopaths learned lessons that convinced them this is the best way to live.
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 8 күн бұрын
@@laurendoe168 Psychopaths ARE outliers. That's the point. And no it is not a learned behavior. That's not how the brain works.
@BlondeManNoName
@BlondeManNoName 7 күн бұрын
In essence psychopaths lack what makes us humans human, or humane. A deviation.
@presence5426
@presence5426 4 күн бұрын
A defect.
@BlondeManNoName
@BlondeManNoName 3 күн бұрын
@@presence5426 That's one way to put it.
@presence5426
@presence5426 3 күн бұрын
@@BlondeManNoName The more we make excuses for the Sociopathic Class, there more damage they can do.
@BlondeManNoName
@BlondeManNoName 3 күн бұрын
@@presence5426 No excuses.
@presence5426
@presence5426 3 күн бұрын
@@BlondeManNoName Ok. Some people will say Psychopaths are human, just different. When in reality they're defective humans and dangerous.
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter 4 күн бұрын
Psychopaths are fascinating to me. The idea that a person can't physically feel empathy for another is something I can't understand on a personal level, even if I can on a scientific one. I'm autistic and supposedly have that notorious "double empathy," and have worked in two career paths simultaneously my entire adult life that aim to help others, to my own obvious personal detriment (depending on your definition of quality of life). Many people do. What do psychopaths think we get out of it other than contentment from knowing that another suffers less?
@sblbb929
@sblbb929 3 күн бұрын
Psychopaths understand empathy and altruism on an intellectual level. They're not stupid. Imagine you woke up this morning and a family member visited you. But you just didn't feel anything inside, you're not hsppy to see them but not unhappy either. Would you suddenly not understand why others might feel happy seeing family members? Just because you feel numb? The reality is that most people with psychopathy have extremly muted emotions, so they know the feelings just on a far diminished level. So they have the experience and are very capable of understanding why people feel the way they do. They just don't do it themselves 99% of the time
@lekoraxx5406
@lekoraxx5406 6 күн бұрын
I believe that psychology should be a normal thing to teach in school to prevent early harming development. Just like ethics but that's just not enough.
@brothermine2292
@brothermine2292 9 күн бұрын
Where on the psychopathy spectrum are businesspeople who cheat their customers? Car mechanics, home repair/renovation contractors, HVAC repair/maintenance contractors, etc.
@user-uu2cd4wl3i
@user-uu2cd4wl3i 9 күн бұрын
Why do you need it and tribal people don't😂
@brothermine2292
@brothermine2292 9 күн бұрын
>user-uu2cd4wl3i : What is the "it" that you think I need?
@user-uu2cd4wl3i
@user-uu2cd4wl3i 9 күн бұрын
@@brothermine2292 obviously whatever you want otherwise you would go live like tribal people unless you have an electric car that way you could save your loved ones are you seem like a smart person I'm sure you know it's real what are we supposed to do when he gets up to 120 degrees and it's like that for most of the days
@user-uu2cd4wl3i
@user-uu2cd4wl3i 9 күн бұрын
@@brothermine2292 oh yeah and instead of giving to churches you could just give to your government and get free medical and then everyone could go live like tribal members there's only one real Church anyway even the Muslims believe this
@nesseihtgnay9419
@nesseihtgnay9419 9 күн бұрын
That's half of us
@gracelewis6071
@gracelewis6071 8 күн бұрын
Helping only those who are close to me never seemed logical to me. The people who are close to me are most likely to be around the same socio economic status as me - yes I can help with things like childcare and spending time doing chores together, but truly helping people - and also recieving help - is most likely going to come from and be given to people who are NOT close to me. In my mind, if I see someone with a need I can meet, I will do my best to meet it - no matter who they are. It is logical to me that society will only get better if we all do this, if this is how society operates. Otherwise there will be people who get left behind, whole groups of people that fall on hard times. A person within a group that the other people do not have the capacity to help to the extent that they need, often leading to them no longer being part of that group anymore. It's not a sustainable way of thinking and acting as a society.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 6 күн бұрын
"Mother Teresa complex" in full display.
@dandybufo9664
@dandybufo9664 5 күн бұрын
@@gravity00x that is an unfortunately cynical view of altruism
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 4 күн бұрын
@@dandybufo9664 im not talking about altruism, I am talking about the arrogant and ignorant gracelewis, who suffers from the mother teresa complex.
@Joshbelieveit
@Joshbelieveit 8 күн бұрын
You can be a psychopath and “altruistic.” If a psychopath believes this is the he best path for their future, or they relate their sense of being good as being altruistic this happens. Often manipulation is greater a tool then aggression.
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 8 күн бұрын
yes, just doing alruistic things doesn't mean people aren't selfish
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 8 күн бұрын
Great point!!
@spacecatmowgli4723
@spacecatmowgli4723 8 күн бұрын
Yes there are psychoapths with actual friendships but of course there are degrees in the intensity of whats consifeted negative behaviors too
@Btr.Swt.Reiyah
@Btr.Swt.Reiyah 8 күн бұрын
I believe that to be exact my case altho id love to be proven wrong, my pride guides me, taking lives is too easy, id rather help someone because its more challenging, and the only reason i wish i had a heart is because i want to be complete, i want everything, to experience everything, being psychopathic strips me from certain flavors of life i wish to enjoy, although i might just be delusional, i just really hate lacking anything I really hate lacking anything, id hate for those i love to know about me potentially being psychopathic, because i wouldnt want them to question my genuineness ive tried so hard to become who i am today and i do value them for what they are as i understand i couldnt live without my favorite food and having them does a lot for me, i rly wish i had a heart just to avoid that kinda thing but alas even that proves i kinda dont, my world is all for use and the use i want just so happens to make me a better person i rly wonder what life looks like for regular people
@jolima
@jolima 8 күн бұрын
I know someone who seems clearly and genuinely altruistic (not in order to gain anything for himself, e.g helped homeless people, ppl with visa problems), while at the same time having pretty obvious psychopathic traits (fighting selfish and ruthlessly for things he wants, being fearless, not understanding a lot of emotions of others, having no guilt feelings, etc)
@stubby7934
@stubby7934 5 күн бұрын
People matter. That's why I resent them.
@xyro9115
@xyro9115 9 күн бұрын
I think in the context of psychopathy it's important to distinguish empathy and compassion. Empathy, like psychopathy, is an inherent trait. Something you're born with. Compassion, like cynicism, is a learned and encouraged skill.
@my.names.robb.with.two.bs1
@my.names.robb.with.two.bs1 9 күн бұрын
Isn't empathy due to a higher concentration of mirror neurons? That would explain why the woke people are so negatively influenced by the psychopathic woke leaders, they're very empathic and so very impressionable. And in the cult they go. And off to terrorize society they go. What do you think about how the woke are calling for the genocide of the Jews? Can't make that up lol.
@chellotrevino7323
@chellotrevino7323 9 күн бұрын
@@my.names.robb.with.two.bs1your slow people who have empathy wouldn’t join the cult NEXT 😂
@TSHEKHAN
@TSHEKHAN 9 күн бұрын
Compassion is a learned skill? You probably dont have kids 😂😂
@chellotrevino7323
@chellotrevino7323 9 күн бұрын
@@TSHEKHAN mfs be saying anything
@xyro9115
@xyro9115 7 күн бұрын
@@TSHEKHAN what does having kids have to do with learning compassion?
@user-il2nm5fj9e
@user-il2nm5fj9e 8 күн бұрын
This lady is the best I've ever seen on big think Very simple, articulate, humble not braggy about her knowledge
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 8 күн бұрын
All of BT is propaganda helping those without a conscience.
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 8 күн бұрын
Didn’t really delve into the details regarding the neurobiology of psychopathy. There are specific brain regions responsible for social cognition that psychopaths manifest deficits in, mostly in the prefrontal cortex as well as the anterior cingulate and insular cortex. The ability to experience empathy and compassion for others are cognitive processes that can be disrupted if these regions are damaged.
@robertwhiteley-yv1sy
@robertwhiteley-yv1sy 5 күн бұрын
Psychopaths, autistics, schizophrenics, rapists and those with OCD have a lot in common. They all have a right hemisphere deficit as you obviously know. I find it remarkable how much serial killers share with all of the above. The compulsion to kill is OCD, the taking of “trophies” from victims are more like an autistic obsession with collecting and cataloguing their deeds than a hunter mounting a head on a wall. Opening bodies to see the mechanic nature of the body is classic behaviour for a far gone schizophrenic.
@doffmoffin
@doffmoffin 4 күн бұрын
I worked for a psychopath (sorry someone with psychopathy) for 8 years. It was bleeding obvious to me and most people that worked for him that he was some sort of psychopath (we debated whether it was borderline personality or psychopathy). He had major temper control problems and an extreme lack of empathy (I suspect it was both). Most people left after a year or two, I was the longest serving employee at 8 years. He would go into a major rage if you didn't do things exactly as he asked, however he would then change his mind and decide the way he had asked you to do it was wrong and would have a major rage at you for doing things the exact way he asked, he was big into gas lighting like that. He also liked to send you on wild highly unproductive goose chases. I eventfully quit and went into competition with him (I've had my own rail modelling consultancy for the last 8 years). He used to have about 12 people working for him now he is down to 3. I am doing really well - I tolerated 8 years of high stress and constantly being raged at but it lead me to learning my current trade (rail modelling) which has given me my current high income and I now subcontract to a guy (effectively my boss) who I got on really, really well with. 8 years of hell followed by 8 years of heaven.
@erionbardhoci283
@erionbardhoci283 9 күн бұрын
The answer is YES. we have them on charge of our Governments. Especially the ones behind the scenes.
@jakegerstein
@jakegerstein 9 күн бұрын
Trump is psychopathic. 100%.
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 8 күн бұрын
And people WORSHIP it!! 😂😂😂
@moneyvsfinance
@moneyvsfinance 6 күн бұрын
Only a free currency market can keep a government in check. No taxes on private currencies.
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 6 күн бұрын
@@moneyvsfinance How did you determine you "only" experience to be correct?
@moneyvsfinance
@moneyvsfinance 6 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyTwoFingers the money/currency is basically half of the economy, in that it is good for all the good and services (not including the barter economy, which is immaterial in comparison). So the goods and services are the one half, and the currency/money is the other. And this makes sense if you think about how convenient currency makes your life. Now we know from history that a monopoly always abuses it's power. I hope this is obvious enough, but through a deeper economic analysis we can deduce that it is the nature of a monopoly to abuse it's power. And the currency market is clearly a monopoly in every country, where the government sponsored currency (even if it is issued by a privately owned entity like the Federal Reserve) has nearly 100% of the market share. This is a monopoly on half of the economy. A right to issue currency unchecked by potential competitors. If you tried to print your own currency, any transactions or income earned in it is taxed, and in dollars. So if I go all year trading in vouchers, crypto, metals, and bartering, without owning a dollar, the IRS will show up at my doorstep expecting me to sell my assets for Dollars to pay taxes. This tax rule generates a ton of demand for the Dollar, giving the issuer of it unchecked power. Now, you could argue that the Federal Reserve and other private central banks are more powerful than the government. And I would agree. But, I would also argue that said central banks are the real government. And the power to print the money/currency with monopoly status, that is, free of competition, is in of itself, unchecked power, by the very definitions of "unchecked" and "power". Therefore the currency market must be made free, fair, and open to competition, if you want to keep the government in check
@tektel
@tektel 8 күн бұрын
6:00 "It's not really your fault if you have these traits. That's not to say that you don't deserve consequences." I.. sense a deep contradiction in this two sentences. Some day .. this will have to be addressed
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 8 күн бұрын
Allism is a much bigger problem than psychopathy, but the judging is rigged.
@frito9421
@frito9421 8 күн бұрын
Surely psychopaths can gain self control, no?
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 8 күн бұрын
@@frito9421 It seems more likely than Allists getting control.
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 8 күн бұрын
​​@@frito9421psychopaths have more (relatively) self control, because they are not controled by empathy or a conscience, by guilt, shame, or love, just by their own whims and desires. What they need is less control. They need to be put in prison until they can be given a conscience. It's been attempted multiple times, and each time they fake a conscience, usually get released, then prove to still be soulless monsters.
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 8 күн бұрын
That contradiction is the smallest problem I have with this video. It's kind of an absurdity, how we use "free will" to describe choices that are not at all free, but completely controled by physics, but we use many of these flawed words for lack of better words, describing situations so complex that accurately defining them would be unreasonably long. This leads to contradictions such as this particular one. Those without a conscience are not at fault for their lack of conscience, and didn't choose to not have one, but they did choose to do evil, because they have no conscience, anr if we just let them run amok, then we'll have devastating climate change, pedos in the churches and schools, dioxins and plastic covering the planet, BigThink spreading propaganda that helps those without a conscience, and a Trump v Biden presidential race. Wait... I guess they're already running amok.
@sarahs5340
@sarahs5340 7 сағат бұрын
I was with an antisocial on and off for five years. The takeaway for me was; listen to your intuition and how your stomach feels around an individual. I used to always get a nervous stomach around him. I thought it was love and attraction, but as time went by I realized it was my internal alarm system letting me know something was off. Observe and accept the actions of the individual. Don’t stay mired in fancy words and daydreams. Be honest with yourself about their behaviors. If you see that they mistreat others, but are kind towards you, realize that eventually they will also treat you poorly. Unfortunately, people who have these dark traits can also be very intelligent, charming, funny, interesting and seem to have compelling reasons for why they engage in bad behaviors. The mask is simply a tool they use to manipulate and predate others. What is behind the mask is the truth. They cannot show who they really are behind the mask because they know who they are is socially unacceptable. Trust your instincts with these individuals and get away from them as quickly as possible in a safe manner.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
My parents were BOTH psychopaths,....they were introduced and PAID to get married by my father's wealthy mafia-connected mother in the 60s. Both my brother and I ended with severe borderline. And in 2011 my mother finally killed my brother! That was the day I gto ptsd, discovered youtube, quit my coding career, left my entire family and was never normal again. My only saving grace was the school saw scratches on me from my mother..and noticed my father was too close to my brother physically..child protective services stepped in and my grandmother upped the $$$ for my mother to straighten up until we were 18.
@SCX2k
@SCX2k 5 күн бұрын
You had to endure so much. I hope youre doing better these days and found peace and contentment!
@Carvgoo
@Carvgoo 5 күн бұрын
I don't have words to encourage you or give you hope in some easy way, but I feel that if you get through all of that is because maybe you will inspire people that are suffering same as you. From the bottom of my heart, I send you light and I admire your strength for going through all of this. God is with you.
@andreww9748
@andreww9748 5 күн бұрын
Wow im so sorry I hope you are doing better now 🙏🙏
@tone3560
@tone3560 5 күн бұрын
two psychopaths wouldn't date or marry one another
@princess555o4
@princess555o4 2 күн бұрын
​@@tone3560did you see where it said that they were paid to marry each other?
@katherinekelly6432
@katherinekelly6432 8 күн бұрын
It is impossible for an individual to act with intention without involvement. Acting with intention guarantees self-interest even if that interest is self-destructive. A martyr is acting selfishly. Selfishness usually describes an act that is hurtful others. Enlightened selfishness does not hurt others and may benefit them. All people "believe" they are acting in their own interest when they act with intention. No person can act in the absence of a self.
@perrywilliams5407
@perrywilliams5407 7 күн бұрын
Selfishness comes in two flavors: self-centered and other-centered. The former in its extreme is socially destructive. The latter in its extreme is altruistic, even if it can be personally destructive. We call the former jerks or monsters; we call the latter heroes. Psychopaths cannot improve; the rest of us can.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 7 күн бұрын
load of horsedung.
@sblbb929
@sblbb929 3 күн бұрын
Ehy does acting with intention *guarantee* self-interest?
@sciencenotsrigma
@sciencenotsrigma 4 күн бұрын
This is so great!
@jaycark
@jaycark 8 күн бұрын
I have empathy, but I’m aware that I have low sympathy. My wife is very altruistic. I feel strongly that we’re on two sides of the spectrum. I envy her and hope she offsets my own behaviors I’ve observed in our kids.
@dandybufo9664
@dandybufo9664 5 күн бұрын
empathy and altruism can be cultivated if you are interested. There are a series of practices from Buddhism called Metta and the Four Immeasurables that start with the seeds of empathy you already have and through intention, attention and visualization increase the likelihood that you will experience these prosocial emotions.
@stevelinder7975
@stevelinder7975 9 күн бұрын
Abigail has absolutely nailed it in condensing a myriad of behavioral patterns into two broad categories. All too often people are more focused on a diagnosis versus actually identifying an understanding the actual behavioral patterns. I will definitely be recommending and forwarding this video to my students around the world. There are so many overlaps between her content/distinctions and those of professor Klaas - especially in the business environment. Thank you for making great content like this possible
@anderandersson5229
@anderandersson5229 9 күн бұрын
Why do you want to do that? For real.. why?
@HidingFromFate
@HidingFromFate 9 күн бұрын
​@@anderandersson5229Why do anything?
@anderandersson5229
@anderandersson5229 9 күн бұрын
@@HidingFromFate To find a partner. Or to help your kids in life. Or to make your parents proud. For the feeling it brings you. Whatever that is. But im asking why someone wants to share this video with people for educational purposes?
@Brad.Craft.777
@Brad.Craft.777 6 күн бұрын
Nice one thanks
@diannegooding8733
@diannegooding8733 4 күн бұрын
I had a conduct disorder in my childhood and teenage years. Long ago I was diagnosed with PTSD, BPD. ASBD NARCISSISTIC and HISTRIONIC PD. With ASPD I obviously have a measure of Psychopathy. I know that I have and often control or manipulate people, I am rarely aggressive physically but highly aggressive verbally and impulsive. I have had a range of Psychological and Psychiatric treatments for at least 30+. years, both In patient and outpatient. I am now discharged as being too severe and complex to treat. A major factor in that is my ability to mask while controlling and manipulating. I have suicidal ideation and have attempted suicide with definite intent. And yet I can so easily become a real charmer!
@aaronjennings8385
@aaronjennings8385 9 күн бұрын
Yes, Ted Bundy saved a girl from drowning at Green Lake in Seattle, Washington, in 1970. This event is documented in Ann Rule's book "The Stranger Beside Me" and is supported by multiple sources
@007kingifrit
@007kingifrit 8 күн бұрын
but why we saved her is the real question, i would argue nobody does it for selfless reasons
@aaronjennings8385
@aaronjennings8385 8 күн бұрын
@@007kingifrit interesting
@dandybufo9664
@dandybufo9664 5 күн бұрын
@@007kingifrit the book Altruism, by Matthieu Ricard is excellent . It challenges your assertion that altruism is secretly selfish. I agree with you though that in many instances, what appears to be altruism my have at least a subtle self interested motivation but the author differentiates this from TRUE altruism and provides many compelling examples.
@buddhi2057
@buddhi2057 8 күн бұрын
Rostral anterior cingulate cortex, not singular 🙂
@zenspark9500
@zenspark9500 5 күн бұрын
I was just telling my husband last night how I always feel so badly for others that I offer to do things for them even if it means I will be putting myself in some sort of very stressful or painful position and I just can't help it. But I also have PTSD and anxiety so I then later panic about what I committed to but am still unable to not do it. I'd rather do what is best for someone else than what is best for me. It has been a real problem in my life sometimes and has caused problems for me and those around me.
@DeborahThird-og1uo
@DeborahThird-og1uo 4 күн бұрын
Read up on Martyr Syndrome, or Saviour Complex.
@JoshMolczyk
@JoshMolczyk 8 күн бұрын
Super uplifting ending here!
@BeStillLittleTree
@BeStillLittleTree 9 күн бұрын
I immediately looked up the psychopathy test to make sure I'm not a psychopath. 😅
@BigTimeRushFan2112
@BigTimeRushFan2112 9 күн бұрын
if you're worried about being a psychopath, then you aren't a psychopath.
@BeStillLittleTree
@BeStillLittleTree 9 күн бұрын
@@BigTimeRushFan2112 haha. very true
@Aceofspades737
@Aceofspades737 8 күн бұрын
​@@BigTimeRushFan2112idk if that 100% true
@JaboodyEnthusiast
@JaboodyEnthusiast 8 күн бұрын
95% percentile bayBEEE! 🎉
@goldendiamon
@goldendiamon 8 күн бұрын
You should consult to therapy to ask if you are, instead of diagnosing on yourself
@ManuelSiddhi
@ManuelSiddhi 9 күн бұрын
Great content! The message that I took from this video is 'they didn't choose to be this way.' Here, she talks about psychopathy, but it also applies to addicts. In my opinion, communities need more education on these topics to prepare for living in a diverse world. Thanks you!
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
No one chooses to be the way they are. Not one person.
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 9 күн бұрын
Drug addicts definitely chose to be that way.
@TheAmishUpload
@TheAmishUpload 9 күн бұрын
@@al-imranadore1182 not at all true
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 9 күн бұрын
@@TheAmishUpload They didn't chose to take the first doze??
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
@@al-imranadore1182 Wow, you really are ignorant, and you like to advertise it. Wrong again sparky.
@randyfournier8299
@randyfournier8299 6 күн бұрын
Narcissists destroy others completely and crave others to realize and feedback how wonderful they are, they get off on anyone below them, laugh at others hardships and pain and loss, and expect the world to make known how amazing and charming and perfect they are. They need admiration and to be superior above others like air or food.
@randyfournier8299
@randyfournier8299 6 күн бұрын
Do you think they can be reasoned with? It’s who they are, a composite personality of all the things god hates, not some, all!
@existentialchaos8
@existentialchaos8 4 күн бұрын
@@randyfournier8299 No, they can only change if they decide to themselves, you can't do anything for them. It is possible to make them realize their own traits, and lead them to want to improve though, but that is unlikely to happen.
@existentialchaos8
@existentialchaos8 4 күн бұрын
Narcissists lack a stable sense of self unlike most of us, their mask, or identity completely built on external things (like others' feedback, achievements, etc.) is their only sense of who they are. But the thing is, it's very fragile, and it's not true confidence. Keeping up this mask is the only way they can feel any sense of self-worth, and if it breaks, they suffer what is called a "narcissistic collapse", which is like a deep depression. This narcissistic collapse is what drives some narcissists to get treatment, and for others, therapists, after teaching them healthier coping mechanisms, will deliberately trigger one as part of the healing process. But it's not a good idea to trigger one in them yourself, because it can be very dangerous for you.
@josemadrid2913
@josemadrid2913 3 күн бұрын
Excellent. Very informative
@abibakrmarjuk
@abibakrmarjuk 9 күн бұрын
Currently reading some personality inventory of some assessment, it seems to me that this people they seems to lean towards Neuroticism (like melancholic for sample ) , over their counterparts who are high on agreeableness
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
A lot of those personality assessments are garbage.
@fossaflute
@fossaflute 9 күн бұрын
I'd like to recommend the book by Robert D. Hare "Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us". For me, it's pretty interesting literature on this topic
@pandalace_
@pandalace_ 9 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed this book, it help me put very puzzling behavior into context
@pamplachte5089
@pamplachte5089 3 күн бұрын
Extreme empathy and it is painful. We care only to find others don’t care. You ask, because you care. Not a Saint, however, learning to expect nothing from anyone.
@NathanHarrison7
@NathanHarrison7 4 күн бұрын
Excellent video. Would love to see more content from that doctor.
@ramblingthoughtsandideas
@ramblingthoughtsandideas 7 күн бұрын
Her fundamental flaw happened at the beginning of the video. Selfishness is not necessarily the complete lack of ability to care for other. You can care for others in a way that is rooted in your selfish interest. In fact, we cannot, not be selfish. Selfishness is one of the most human deep rooted instinct/emotion.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
Its not acring if you care for you own interests, its narcisissm. Great example is my mother taking us to the dentist every six months...it was (a) to get her ass off work for the day (b) make us look taken care of to hide the neglect.
@ramblingthoughtsandideas
@ramblingthoughtsandideas 7 күн бұрын
@@stoneneils And you think it is possible to do anything with personal interest /motivation at all? What or how will that depressed zombie state look like? And if I care for others to care for me, you mean that's not caring at all? Explain that twist for me, please?
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 7 күн бұрын
@@ramblingthoughtsandideas yes it is. its just not understandable to psychopaths. thats why you are struggling so hard with the concept and fighting every word of it.
@ramblingthoughtsandideas
@ramblingthoughtsandideas 6 күн бұрын
@@gravity00x your reply is not clear. Can you be more understandable, please?
@1luvlate
@1luvlate 4 күн бұрын
@@stoneneils incorrect, narcissism is being overly self-centered. i'm sorry that happened to you, but those are not signs of narcissism.
@_negentropy_
@_negentropy_ 9 күн бұрын
So…how do we define “messes up sometimes” on the altruistic side? Like if someone abuses women and children in their personal life and has used their massive platform to dehumanize women, like clearly doesn’t value their humanity, but also uses their massive platform to sometimes help people (but also sometimes misinforms and makes millions off of their followers’ nescience). Are they a psychopath? Can psychopaths mask their psychopathy by appearing altruistic (are people who pander to known people abusers also psychopaths by proximity?)
@shakeyj4523
@shakeyj4523 9 күн бұрын
Yes, psychopaths can mask. Remember, they are unable to feel empathy, so it's not a choice for them. You would have to see inside their brains to know for sure. Are they really feeling empathy and helping people, or are they simply helping because it really benefits them in some way. Without reading minds it can be hard to know.
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 8 күн бұрын
​@@shakeyj4523the best way to tell for sure is to see how many narcissistic tactics they use, and how often. They could just be a moron who's misogynistic because the world is, gaslighting by accident, because they don't know the truth with which to not gaslight, or they could habitually lie, virtue signal, marginalize easy targets for narcissistic supply, bully, push people's buttons, manipulate, tantrum, et cetera ad nauseum.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
To answe your question jordan peterson has narcisisstic personality disorder not psychopathy. :)
@fen4554
@fen4554 7 күн бұрын
What are we talking about here...? You sound like you're talking less about psychopathy and more about hatred figures on your political opposite? Growing up misogynistic or brutish does not make them a psychopath.
@matthewatwood207
@matthewatwood207 7 күн бұрын
@@fen4554 growing up misogynist and brutish is one thing, being a full grown adult who knows better but does it anyway makes you a jerkhole.
@ryanbox4
@ryanbox4 8 күн бұрын
The delivery and transitions made me sit here wondering, like, wait what if? All paranoid etc, took the test, answered honestly: "The percentile score above suggests low levels of psychopathic traits. A person with this score does not show elevated psychopathy compared to others of their age and gender." *sigh of relief*
@wilsonov87
@wilsonov87 6 күн бұрын
We can only experience externally whatever our own internal reality is. Therefore people who make such claims about humans being naturally selfish are really only revealing their own selfish nature. If you feel kind and loving inside, you will find kindness and love all around you. And if you are bitter and miserable inside, you will find bitter misery all around you. (And an intelligent person will identify the causality at play, and adjust their demeanour accordingly!)
@raymondhartono
@raymondhartono 9 күн бұрын
I FEEL FEAR v strongly. I will remember that scene when my mum was crying like mad when my Dad passed away in hospital. THAT is fear.
@antonois
@antonois 5 күн бұрын
During my master's in psychology, I came across a study that disproved altruism - it is just another form of self-gratification. It is also a defence mechanism like denial the way people look at altruism. This video itself shows how desperate we are to cling to something that is not real - even though the topic is psychopathy, people want to hear it's not that bad because we have "altruism", as if the world is a fairy tale of good vs evil. Reality doesn't work that way. 1-2 % of the population being psychopathic is A LOT and there is no sugar-coating it! Such "positivity" researchers, like those who promote optimism and toxic self-care, are really stifling psychological research and should keep to faith studies, mindfulness, and yoga instead.
@bitofwizdomb7266
@bitofwizdomb7266 5 күн бұрын
There are people who are altruistic and don’t internally and secretly get self gratification out of it . But I get how that would be hard to prove
@abstractedaway
@abstractedaway 8 күн бұрын
A very valuable and insightful thing to google on this subject: "dark factor psychology".
@bochica3562
@bochica3562 6 күн бұрын
HONEST QUESTION‼️ I have traits of both ends(!) of the spectrum. Does that make me average/normal on the spectrum again? 😅 I have been brutally calculating, wrathful, sadistic and egoistic at times. Although I have no particular feelings about it, when I am in that mode, it's a side of me that loves me and nobody else and I've come to love it too about me. On the other side I'm genuinely loving, empathic, humorous and and helping. I've shown "heroic" behavior. Yes, I've saved people and I also try to have small positive impacts for everyone. It makes me feel good and and I learn and grow from the experience with other. I love that side of me as well. Both sides belong to me, they don't exclude each other in my daily life, since both sides are not called to their extremes normally.
@existentialchaos8
@existentialchaos8 4 күн бұрын
Perhaps you're naturally highly empathetic, but during your childhood, your empathy or sensitivity was used to harm you and you had to develop the ability to turn off your emotions (or your other side) as a way to cope?
@ballsack7692
@ballsack7692 3 күн бұрын
Literally me right here ;-;
@maxbuskirk5302
@maxbuskirk5302 9 күн бұрын
6:02 Excellent point. Recognizing that people simply have innate characteristics that shape their behaviors invites a unique, better perspective on how to respond to their behaviors.
@JebuIsuka
@JebuIsuka 9 күн бұрын
My ex has most of this, but he's super quiet and passive ACTING on the outside. Very manipulative and self serving, but somehow always the victim.
@al-imranadore1182
@al-imranadore1182 9 күн бұрын
Psychopathy is an attractive trait to women.
@existentialchaos8
@existentialchaos8 4 күн бұрын
That may be covert narcissism though. Covert narcissists see themselves as perpetual victims and everything bad in life happens to them instead of being caused by them. Psychopaths solely do things for personal gain and to get stimulation, and have no need to get others to see them a certain way to fuel their ego / self-confidence, they only do it to get something they want. They also don't care about what others think of them unless it impacts how they can benefit them. Covert narcissists though, are deeply insecure on the inside but hides it by acting like the victim and never taking responsibility. They maintain their mask for validation that they are missing internally, and they feel like responsibility, blame, and criticism are personal attacks to their already fragile self. Both lack empathy and manipulate, but they do it for different reasons.
@radiantjoy5607
@radiantjoy5607 3 күн бұрын
Cooperation and caring for others is how humans have managed to survive as long as they have. It takes an intentional discounting and ignoring of what it takes to survive as a species to deny it. If we stay off social media. we can see that most people in society are caring and cooperative. Not one organization could exist for any time without it.
@KW-mz4pn
@KW-mz4pn 9 сағат бұрын
Profoundly educational. Thank you doctor. It would really drive home the science of the soul….
@emilym7251
@emilym7251 6 күн бұрын
Sometimes I think I have like compulsive altruism almost, and then I feel bad like I’m not being genuine or like I’m only doing it to try and give myself worth, but I guess I need to give myself more credit. I genuinely believe in the power of kindness and love. Also I rarely see it as an inconvenience. Like when I donated bone marrow, I got to stay in a hotel for free it was fun! Had continental breakfast and everything (:
@terenzo50
@terenzo50 8 күн бұрын
Psychopathic brains are fundamentally different, the growth process of certain of its parts having slowed or stopped early on. There has been some limited success in re-training psychopathic behaviour if caught early enough while the brain is still undergoing growth. There is plenty of good information in The Psychopath Whisperer by Dr. Kent A. Kiehl.
@catbeara
@catbeara Күн бұрын
I think I'm not very emotionally empathic. But I disliked that about myself as a teen, so I consciously decided to try to become a better person. Almost two decades later and it feels as though I've changed my thought patterns somewhat to have a more empathic slant. I still don't "feel what others feel" or feel sad if another person does, unless they are one of my immediate family members or closest friends. However, I can now see what reaction would be kindest, etc. and I can respond in that way without much thought.
@jack-gx
@jack-gx 7 күн бұрын
Cool video, My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to move on, I really loved her so much i can’t stop thinking about her and the memories we shared. I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail. I’m frustrated, and i don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts, but i can’t. I don’t know why I’m saying this here, but i really miss her and i wish i could get her back.
@Jose-lz6cw
@Jose-lz6cw 7 күн бұрын
I have been in such a situation. My relationship ended about three years ago, but i could not let her go. So i had to do all i could to get her back, i had to seek the help of a spiritual adviser who helped me bring her back. We are back together, and i must say i am enjoying every moment.
@jack-gx
@jack-gx 7 күн бұрын
Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach one?
@Jose-lz6cw
@Jose-lz6cw 7 күн бұрын
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@jack-gx
@jack-gx 7 күн бұрын
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@jimmydean5663
@jimmydean5663 7 күн бұрын
This is a great scam boys, good luck
@BB-fo5mr
@BB-fo5mr 9 күн бұрын
Cluster B disorders are very misunderstood. The criterion particularly. Very layered, meticulous, and circumstantial. Additionally, you are talking about a scale of behavior (we are all on) which involves contextual consistency or inconsistency. If you were raised by, born into an anti-social parental system, you can understand better than most people (even the professionals). But most people who don’t get, and are merely “enlightened” by youtube videos and generic criterion.. will think narcissists, sociopaths, and psychopaths ‘are everywhere’. Completely misunderstanding what disordered behavior is vs isn’t. Behavior you would think is psychopathic - typically isn’t, and behavior you would think is normal and not psychopathic .. often times, is. You just don’t know how good people are at feigning and manipulating. Whereas genuine behavior is often frowned upon, and thought of as disordered - its not. Its all backwards. Cluster Bs will have you thinking they are the victim, they will even strengthen this stance - by going to psych professionals/therapists (professionals who DON’T get it, who will be fooled) only to validate a Cluster B’s, BS narrative. The professionals are enabling and are complicit with the actions of Cluster Bs. Therapists are often Cluster Bs, or wouldn’t be able to determine the ins and outs of there own criterion for Cluster Bs to save their own life. I have come across countless people (who are TERRIBLE cluster Bs) who only had their actions and false narratives validated by their therapists. Completely fooled them - and now they are more inclined to manipulate and deceive in society. Its a disgrace. If you are raised by a “Tetrad”, and/or multiple Cluster Bs... you will get it better than nearly all professionals. It will inescapably ruin your life. You will see every fractional level of manipulation and deceit in every explicit and implicit human action - daily. It never ends.
@northstar5919
@northstar5919 8 күн бұрын
O yes.
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 7 күн бұрын
A lot of mumbo jumbo to play down the devastating effects of psychopaths on humanity.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 күн бұрын
You HAVE a personality disorder yourself I''m afraid to say. Its evident to me as a borderline you've got a paranoid narcissitic stance in which therapists are evil, cluster-b's are evil, and the anger/rage in you is clearly palpatable. Best case you just have youtubitis lol.
@Here4TheHeckOfIt
@Here4TheHeckOfIt 3 күн бұрын
Most people seem confused about diagnosis and need to understand that there is real skill in order to use the information you learn to assess, identify and treat. That takes careful, nuanced observation. The good ones are very careful with this, respect boundaries and follow all guidelines to protect the patient's privacy.
@Veltemaster
@Veltemaster 5 күн бұрын
I'm highly intrigued about how my own vocation as a game master and story teller intersects with this this lore. I have probably played thousands of roles who all had their own personality, but completely improvised. So I've been interested in the ability that I seem to have (not that I'm unique in that respect) but it's rare, but I am able to switch character in an instant and run all of their thought processes together, that way you can have live conversations between 3 players and 4 Non playing characters that all have their own way of spreaking, which seems to come naturally, like the voice in your head when you are hearing what you read.. I just stopped to think about whether I could play a psychopath and I guess I've played many, cause yeah, fiction always need a bad guy to defeat, standard narrative.. It actually the easiest thing to play, cause you just have to think like Stalin or Hitler, or any monster who is only there to kill and defile.. I don't have to give them any deeper motivations, so it's more like a mental trait most truly evil monsters have, like the horrors from Earthdawn, who fed on pain and misery.. sick game.
@AttackChefDennis
@AttackChefDennis 9 күн бұрын
Scored a 53, so typical of my life, dead middle of the pack! Though 22 yrs sober after 20 yrs drinking is a bit rare to find esp one whose worked in PRO kitchens for 31 yrs!!
@northstar5919
@northstar5919 8 күн бұрын
Bravo for being sober.
@edgarmorales4476
@edgarmorales4476 8 күн бұрын
Our consciousness is the fabric out of which we make your life. Our consciousness is the ground of our every response to every single thing which happens in our mental, emotional and physical life. Our consciousness is reality. This statement may be expressed in 2 ways, both of which are the truth of existence. Our consciousness creates reality, irrespective of actual facts. When people believed the earth was flat, they were afraid to venture too far over the ocean lest the ship will fall over the edge. People who believed in a flat earth, lived according to that belief. Years later, when Galileo said the earth was round, he was considered a "heretic" and/or a "blasphemer"-but his perception of the "roundness of the earth" enabled sailors to take a new look at the world and set out to discover what lay the other side of the ocean. It required a change in their belief to make this possible. We are in a similar position. People who discount and ridicule others are like people who believed in a flat earth and were afraid of falling over the edge if they sailed too far to the west or east of their known environment. Their horizons are severely limited by their false beliefs. So are the horizons of people who believe the world to be solid, also severely restricted. Day after day, people lament and grieve over the misfortunes which have befallen the world, believing there is no escape from them. But people who can grasp and welcome the Truth of Consciousness are like those who perceived that travel on the oceans can be limitlessly undertaken in all directions, as long as they have the will to set out on such a journey. Therefore, our state of consciousness is the most important consideration in our life-not our relationships, possessions or position in life. Tend to your consciousness and the blessedness in all aspects of your life will follow. ​ By our consciousness we feed ourselves with inner love and harmony, joy and beauty, even in the backstreets of a slum. With such consciousness, we will find ourselves being removed from the streets of the slum into an environment in keeping with our Godness. So do we climb out of unpleasant circumstances. From the foregoing, you should now be able to see that only we create the "quality" of our internal world, whether we find ourselves externally in prison or in command of a battleship! ​And we can enhance our surroundings by radiating to them the life force which animates our thinking. Our external life only impinges on our consciousness. It does not-cannot-create or determine our conscious responses. We are the "creator" of our responses. Our type of creation depends entirely on our deepest perceptions and beliefs regarding existence. Our convictions and strongly-held beliefs may be completely illusory-but if we fully believe in them in our subconscious, they become absolutely real for us.
@JohnnyTwoFingers
@JohnnyTwoFingers 8 күн бұрын
Well said buddy 👍
@northstar5919
@northstar5919 8 күн бұрын
Yes to all that you wrote💜
@robertperry4439
@robertperry4439 3 күн бұрын
I believe that there is a neural psycho chemical explanation for psychopathy that is attributable to either environmental or genetic abnormalities. My mother divorced my father when I was three; she told me later that it was because his personality had changed when he was in the Korean war. I can personally attest to his psychopathic behavior. He as much as confessed to killing his girlfriend because she would not get an abortion; as he put it, "I took care of that problem. Her body was found in the Missouri river downstream from a bridge that he would take me to fish. Just the way that he coldly referred to her death convinced me that he was a murderer. This incident was only one of many incidents that left me with no doubt that he was a psychopath.
@eh1702
@eh1702 2 күн бұрын
There certainly are external signs. It isn’t that infrequent that someone psychopathic will forget they should be feeling the appropriate emotion, or they perform it in a perfunctory way then just drop it, or they TELL you they feel/felt an emotion. Or they will fake the wrong emotion. But most people, when they notice the mask drop, they immediately dismiss what they noticed. They literally cannot believe their own eyes and ears. This was what happened with about a dozen or fifteen people, in our admin office one day. I came in to look at the shift chart that had just gone up, and at the back of the room, a buddy who worked in there had given me the “keep it zipped / stay cool” eyebrow flash. A silent “beware” that saved my bacon a couple of times. The branch manager is showing off pics of her new little pup, choosing which to put on her pet-wall. She loved animals and had a special connection with them, she always told everyone. Someone said, “Oh - I thought you’d got one of those (toy breed) *last* year.” “Yeah, I had to get him put down on Friday, he’d started nipping.” Pulled out another photo and looked at it. Did not see the questioner’s jaw drop. Or the double-take someone else did, and…dismissed. But something about the pause alerted her that that would be a sad event, so she then added, “I was up all night crying, you should’ve seen me. Aww, and we got him a wee tartan bow tie to match, look at that!” Down in the canteen, different people kept coming up to us (Because I happened to be standing closest? Right behind her chair at that moment.) Some of them had been arguing with each other about it. They all of them approached and prefaced their questions mumbling some statement that they “must’ve heard it wrong”, or “got mixed up”. She had been perfectly audible to everyone. Most of them had worked daily with this woman for 5-10 years, and this was them just noticing who she was.
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva 8 күн бұрын
Pause. How do you balance their criminal behavior with the idea that they didn't choose to be this way? With more jail time, right? See, the reason this society doesn't recognize psychopaths is because this society is by and large sympathetic to psycopaths! Now we have you softening the blow of their outlier behavior by putting everyone on their spectrum. It's not a spectrum. There is something broken about them and its irreversible and unapologetic. So you were going to say put them away longer, right? Peace and Health
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva
@b.l.a.c.k-shiva 8 күн бұрын
PAUSE. Did she just-- she just cited Iron Man as a hero...! But she's a psychologist! Iron Man CAUSES ALL the problems! Even after death he's still a menace. It's 2024 and when I watched Iron Man again, his whole personality was cringe 💯. But like I said this society supports and doesn't recognize psychopaths as a problem-- like she said, it doesn't recognize psychopaths at all. Peace and Health
@gravity00x
@gravity00x 6 күн бұрын
I agree lol. Their condition is defined by the absence of humanity, which has catastrophic consequences on the human people itself and there are people here, completely disregarding that fact, downplaying the sheer destruction and misery they bring, when psychopaths are left to their devices.
@LittleRayofSunshine69750
@LittleRayofSunshine69750 8 күн бұрын
People have hurt me again and again, I have no faith in humanity.
@user-kc8tx1fx9j
@user-kc8tx1fx9j 7 күн бұрын
I don't either. My faith is in Jesus. He has made me hopeful again. Check him out, Your Hope may be renewed and I pray he gives you the blessings of life.
@dandybufo9664
@dandybufo9664 5 күн бұрын
I am sorry you have been hurt. But have all people hurt you ? If not, don't those people count as members of humanity. Why is it that the rare negative events define the entire category ?
@GenerationX1984
@GenerationX1984 5 күн бұрын
​@@user-kc8tx1fx9jReligion never solved anything. It just causes wars in the middle east.
@tessaoshea5697
@tessaoshea5697 2 күн бұрын
People are saying that society rewards psychopathy. But that is not usually true. They are briefly rewarded, but then the mask slips and they have to move on. The corporate psychopath will impulsively have an affair then carry on with it in spite of consequences. Or else play one person against another for personal gain until someone realizes what's up. An everyday psychopath might act out for thrills and end up in prison. There is a reason why there are so many in prison, psychopathy is not adaptive.
@Prisoner_844
@Prisoner_844 3 күн бұрын
Wow turns out i have some altruistic signs. I’m glad they mentioned that you souls have patience and empathy for people with psychopathy. My nephew who’s a year younger than me has psychopathy and he would be aggressive and bully me for no reason sorta obsessively like treating me different than he treated others. But I realized later in life that he can’t really help how unreasonable he’s being that he devolpmentally is wired different. He deserves patience. I’m just glad he was raised by a good mom and dad. I think that really helped him turn out to be well behaved and not doing anything criminal. My nephew would lie all the time and stay constantly. He also would get into trouble a lot.
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