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@raylidell361315 күн бұрын
Hey Bill. Even though you didnt accomplish your mission, this was a VERY valuable video for me. Just to see what was involved in pulling the manifold and linkages and the float bowl on the carb was quite informative. Thanks
@delbertjones49504 жыл бұрын
hey Bill check the Puls line from the fuel pump to the engine may have a hole in it! And Spray car cleaner around the Manaifold gaskets if it smooths otu it is leaking at the Manifold! Another thing to check if you have a gas tank you could put directly on to the fuel line to the carb and see if it runs better with it that way! I Caution though take the fuel line from the tank off at the fuel pump off there! If it runs better it is a problem with the fuel pump!
@ElectriciScreen4 жыл бұрын
I was literally just experiencing that very same issue and I agree with the comments and your theory about sucking air. I replaced the carb gaskets and made sure the alignment was lined up correctly and the surging went away.
@csabacserep49242 жыл бұрын
*This mower....... changed my life **Bestfor.Garden** also recommend I never thought I would see the day when I would ever make the switch to electric yard tools. But this was one of my best decisions yet. My old 15+ year old gas mower snapped its pull string while trying to get it to fire up and instead of fixing it, I chose to upgrade instead.*
@jeffreymurdock83664 жыл бұрын
Bill that surging problem has something to do with the governor. Used to work for sears back in the 90s and my job was to go work on riding mowers and push mowers. I came across this problem a lot on the riding mowers. Usually it was the internal parts of the governor. No one had figured it out and they would just put a new engine on the mower. I decided to play a hunch and just replaced the internal governor and it fixed it. Once I did that all mower techs were advised about the governor and we replaced fewer engines.
@zeddik99 Жыл бұрын
I had this problem and ended up replacing the carb. Found one for less than $30. From what I've read, the rubber gaskets in the bowl will start to disintegrate and cause the fuel flow to fluctuate.
@meezanny4 жыл бұрын
it's starving itself of fuel, that's why it evens out with partial choke on. The idle jet is plugged or dirty. it has to be taken apart and cleaned. Compressed air is not enough.
@alanmcclusky4 жыл бұрын
Bill clean up the coil packs check for contamination of the air gaps and then clean up the magnet check and clean any rust particules affecting the air gaps then regap also I think the inlet seals had been misaligned during original assembly and got worse over time cos remember the choke was always a little funny that's why you had to alter the direction of the spring I think its probably a intake leak but It could also be a faulty coil pack you will be better making sure it is not the inlet seals and then work back to the coils but it is worth cleaning them up first regards Alan.
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
Also if you have one of these plastic intake manifold if you hold it up and look at the flat parts all three probably slightly warped
@funny2man20044 жыл бұрын
Split the fuel line at the filter and take compressed air and blow back toward the fuel tank to clear the line Then bypass the filter for second and see if it still surges could be dirty filter or the vent in the cap on the tank is not working
@mikeuva2273 Жыл бұрын
i have the same setup same thing at 30 hours it started surging took carb off cleaned real good changed gaskets and o rings but same thing surging i bought a carb from ebay Chinese one and the thing runs perfect its something in the carb i took the welch plug out on top of carb to check idle circuit but was very clean there is no adjustment behind that welch plug at a later date im going to drill the idle circuit a little bit bigger and see if that works some people say that the epa makes the manufactures lean out these carbs to barely run good but as they break in they need more fuel thus the surging after break in!!
@hombrenuevoacts172814 күн бұрын
Step one, take it off, step two, clean it up, and get gaskets. Step 3: Put humpty dumpty back together 😂😂😂😂
@billbray87974 жыл бұрын
Bill i saw another video having same problem, he corrected his problem by using 89 octane fuel. He said it took a little but it solved his surging.
@Chris-Fennimore4 жыл бұрын
Very curious issue. I have seen small leaves and bugs in the gas tank, blocking the outlet, cause this kind of surge, but with that issue you would never get full throttle. I believe you can mow normally at full throttle? A fuel pump that is going bad could do that surge too. Try bypassing the tank and pump, by connecting a small gas tank to the carb directly, and hanging it above the engine, so the pump would not be needed. use a fuel filter inline with this test. Also, Try moving that small spring on the govner back to its original location.
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
I noticed on the right side linkage that runs to the governor missing the spring that runs on the outside of that rod
@brianrutherford32294 жыл бұрын
It might be a fuel pump getting weak. I am a trained tech and without being there us hard to diagnose it
@drewmitchell19374 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a mower shop check the plastic manifold for cracks and spray ether around the gaskets while running and see if it clears up
@chevyphil39694 жыл бұрын
bill all those valve covers leak. but not that high up. not much oil in them. the briggs and station, kolher and Kawasaki fix is high heat temp nice bead of rtv sealer maybe yours is just dirty and dust kick up onto it, on a horizontal shaft single cylinder like mine your muffler right under the valve cover so you know when its leaking cause now your 007 laying down a smoke screen lol
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
You might want to give stop stuff called dynaflex Ultra can a black tube and the color of the sealant is black says lifetime mold mildew and weatherproof that works from 40 to 400 degrees I use it when I need a liquid gasket stop leaks on a tin roof fix something that's plastic that's got a crack in it under the hood
@WhistlinDieselunknown4 жыл бұрын
Sand your coils mine did same thing they rusted up over winter I sanded them runs like new know
@JabbaBy794 жыл бұрын
It's the jets or emulsion tube. If you take it apart again take an old wire brush and pull off a few bristles and use one of them holding it with some needle nose and run it through the jets to clean them out and any of the holes including the emulsion tube. Gas can get gummy and cause varnishing
@nathanbrodeur4 жыл бұрын
Bill have you thought about cleaning the flywheel cause look at the rust on it
@bigmikethegamerATL2 ай бұрын
Hey can you please help me what is the name of that bottom part of the carburetor with the white circle my mower cranks up fine but after I ran it for a while when I turn it off and try to crank it back up, it will not start. I have to reach back there and unplug the plug and crank it. It will start think I just need to replace that part there, but I don’t know the name would really appreciate if you can help me. Thank you.
@audiecravy3 ай бұрын
Did you ever find the problem? I am having the same problem?
@byronpool70034 жыл бұрын
there is a screw under the small plug on top of the carb dig the pug out and adjust the screw out about a1/4 turn
@hank56554 жыл бұрын
Bill ALERT ALERT when working on a carb you will have to take the jets out of the carb and completely disassemble, and it can be as small as a human hair will cause it to surge,, Also make sure he is not using E 10 fuel, thats whats causing the carb o rings to have a little crusty on it, If it was your coils you would have to let the engine run at full throttle for 30 mins Or it would not start ITS NOT A SPARK PROBLEM. Its not a fuel delivery problem I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT. I am a certified Kawasaki, Kohler, Onan, and Briggs mechanic only been working on small engines for 45 years I seen a thing or two I will never retire I prefer to die in the shop. Hope the info helps, I got to get back to work!
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same Nikki carb, intake, Etc on my Troy-Bilt z-54 Mustang with a 22 hp b & s. Even though the unit is 2 years old it had a whopping 12 and a half hours when started surging on me I took the carb off to clean it and I treat it like I do a lot of my car repairs I go into it with my past knowledge of other vehicles applied to the same job even if it's a little different without watching the video only watch the videos after the fact when I'm scratching my head or run into a problem so when I put it back on the mower barely wanted to run and I had to have the lever all the way up for it to the choke to even try to idle and it was almost blowing like black smoke I'm assuming it's running way too rich question is isn't there a little bran jet that's inside that white plastic tube that is part of the float system cuz I heard that can fall out and I don't see one on mine and I'm wondering if because that's not there anymore its just dumping too much fuel and I just might as well just buy a whole new carb..?.?
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
I hope you reply and if you do this is thanks in advance
@zx8401ztv4 жыл бұрын
At least you had a go, you didnt make it worse so thats fine. I would hang a container of petrol above it and direct feed that into the carb input, that would show if the pump has a problem.
@MARKLOCKWOOD20124 жыл бұрын
If it’s not the carb next is fuel pump cheap insurance to change, then I’d add a fuel stabilizer yea I know but if the fuel is contaminated from filling best to see star tron or sta bil. Add that to the tank. Or an octane booster or add mid or premium fuel to see if the octane isn’t the issue. Causing spark knock. Things to eliminate till it quits surging. Help to start it hold the choke open till it about dies let off. Run in medium throttle get some heat into her
@person123074 жыл бұрын
This is interesting I have an older version of this mower my deck always falls off from the front support and yours is having engine issues
@timritchie11244 жыл бұрын
Check for air leak with a propane torch, unlit, for air leak around the plastic manifold. Gasket, hairline crack?
@kennethlivelsberger35743 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem. John Deere service said it was bad gas. Put fresh file in and it cleared up.
@jonathansmith89324 ай бұрын
I'm having same issue now and I was thinking bad gas cuz the fuel can was outside all winter
@joeknowski6753 жыл бұрын
Spark,filters, gas pump, carb cleaning should be it. If not and you have surge issues adjustment in linkage for air fuel ratio
@tonylenzi1664 жыл бұрын
Check the fuel tank cap or the filter, them plastic filters suck, imo, or maybe a line but def sounds like a fuel issue,
@matthewhudson46594 жыл бұрын
Bill, surging is caused by lack of fuel, I noticed when you held the governor it smoothed out. You have a blockage somewhere in the fuel system. Fuel tank , pump, filter, or carb has a blockage. Eliminate one at a time till you find it.
@ypsv174 жыл бұрын
Idle hunt like bill has is a vacuum leak all holding the governor does is increase's sleep of said engine .fuel blockage would stall out his engine and would be hard to start.
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
Are you getting excessive are for the metered fuel that is coming in and I could also be caused by those gaskets not sealing properly or they are warped at the three different points that they meet metal
@DanBeLiving Жыл бұрын
Hello just checking in on if this issue was ever resolved and if so what did the trick ?
@IRONMAN-kb4su4 жыл бұрын
Take the flywheel nut off see if key broke ?
@rhadden89764 жыл бұрын
Try checking the fuel pump... it's possible
@mikemangold8738 Жыл бұрын
Did your buddy ever figure out what was wrong. I have same problem after 600 hours.
@canadaeast4 жыл бұрын
Dirty fuel filter ?
@chaseruthgaming56694 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@finncampeau49224 жыл бұрын
Did you see my comment on your last video about the manifold?
@digbyodell29244 жыл бұрын
I take dehydration over heat stroke any day. Beside, good excuse to drink more, electrolytic beverages. Seriously, no beer here but if there's ever a time...
@dclawnmaintenanceandsnowre40994 жыл бұрын
Try spraying some carb cleaner around the gaskets and see if that help while the motor is running
@Chris-fl9hk4 жыл бұрын
Ratchet wrenches the way to go I love mine but I get confused bc I got the first generation I guess you could call it...it doesn’t have the clicker system you just gotta turn it over to reverse I always get confused lol
@brianrutherford32294 жыл бұрын
You just got that what last year?you should still have warrenty from JD right?if you do just let the pros fix it at the dealership
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
think its like 3 years now
@deathk264 жыл бұрын
He got it in June of 2018. It had a two year warranty so it's just out of warranty. Figures eh?
@michaelmactavish17284 жыл бұрын
@@deathk26 my kubota dealer gives 5 year on zds and 6 for the f series
@Bigal12114 жыл бұрын
@@billstmaxx turn fuel filter round it the wrong way round
@ArizVern4 жыл бұрын
Plastic manifold is much easier to bend using injection molding, then bending metal to do the same thing.
@paulf25294 жыл бұрын
Agree, the equivalent in say aluminium would need to be cast.
@bigbadmower52834 жыл бұрын
From everything I'm reading online it says the screws could be out of adjustment for the carburetor. Yes I know you just clean the carburetor but just figured I'd mention
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
fixed jet carb on that one
@chucksanders77884 жыл бұрын
I would spray carb cleaner around where the manifold bolts to the heads while running.see if it runs different.
@danieldaemicke69044 жыл бұрын
Have you tried putting that spring back in the original position
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
it was yes after reassembly
@MARKLOCKWOOD20124 жыл бұрын
Air to fuel mix is off needs adjusting
@mikeuva2273 Жыл бұрын
did you ever find the problem??
@donnyromine81104 жыл бұрын
Check your fuel lines theres something blocking it off its starving for fuel.
@ypsv174 жыл бұрын
vacuum leak will cause it idle hunt
@johnwalters74153 жыл бұрын
What was the problem?
@gac9144 жыл бұрын
"Nothing (almost) Runs Like A Deere". . . . . . .
@anthonyyoung73444 жыл бұрын
The coil want make a engine surge if it was a coil it would be not firing on one side.
@joshshaw65054 жыл бұрын
If your still having problems with it tack it back to the store where you got it and if they say they can’t do anything look at a toro zero turn with the toro engien mine has the toro engien and never had problems with it
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
home depot. they dont service their sales
@eosjoe5654 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I dislike those Nikki carbs. All those plastic parts, baffles and O-rings. I had one on a single cylinder B&S in an Ariens and it gave nothing but trouble. I replaced it with another brand carb which was more conventional.
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
Did you do a walbro
@eosjoe5652 жыл бұрын
@@hyperwebbing No, I went with a Ruixing that I got from Pro Parts Direct. It showed as a replacement for the Nikki.
@hyperwebbing2 жыл бұрын
@@eosjoe565 10-4
@justhes4 жыл бұрын
I'd replace the fuel pump.
@rogerkohlhoff14724 жыл бұрын
Bill Try seafoam let it run for a half hour
@kennethjrgensen62454 жыл бұрын
You haf to adjust the guvernør arm.
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
that shouldn’t have come unadjusted unless something broke
@brianmajors93004 жыл бұрын
It's the fuel filter need to change it it will work after that
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
already changed that
@brianmajors93004 жыл бұрын
You actually replied to me I do appreciate this you are a legend in my book you are just terrific what you do you are a genius I'm trying to be really serious I love watching your videos even though one I watch him three or four times and I love the snow one
@danieldaemicke69044 жыл бұрын
Hunting for a surge on a small engine is the worst.
@Bigal12114 жыл бұрын
Turn fuel filter around its facing the wrong way
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
no that’s the right way.
@newton3664 жыл бұрын
GOVERNOR. LINKAGE ?
@cabletvcutters19724 жыл бұрын
valve adjustment
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
no no. it only has 130 hours
@finncampeau49224 жыл бұрын
INTAKE MANIFOLD
@Cameron-ur2tk4 жыл бұрын
Thats the dumbest carb ever built. Easiest way to find a leak/ vacuum is use starter fluid or propane and just start spraying it around all spots where theres o rings or gaskets while the engine is running. if the rpm goes up you have found the source of the vacuum leak. Do it with a cold engine.
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
I like the old style better.
@anthonyyoung73444 жыл бұрын
Carburetors like that are junk I hate them and parts for them are rediculus to that one gasket is $15. That one looks like a Nikki carburetor I have four of them and they all are junk.
@brandonhill95004 жыл бұрын
I hate that carb, worst carb design ever made and it's on all kinds of stuff, once it starts the idle surge it's very tough to resolve. Stupid Nikki carb... I've got the same carb on one of my mowers and I've never been able to get it to stop surging, lots of youtube vids on it too. I've seen some folks drill out the idle jet with micro drill bits to smooth it out.
@billstmaxx4 жыл бұрын
maybe it’s starving
@brandonhill95004 жыл бұрын
@@billstmaxx yea surging typically means it's running lean. Either there is an intake leak or the carb isn't supplying enough fuel.
@myname30743 жыл бұрын
Please take this video down I wasted my time for nothing!!!