Hard to talk and swallow at the same time

Early and often

that fucking lip-smacking...

Him speaking like that ruined the entire video/story/lecture. Too bad.

Sounded like he had to burp.

It's a great story, but for an NBC reporter who is supposed to be a humanities guy rather than a techie, he was surprisingly clumsy in his delivery. Excellent content.

@@theprogram863 talking to a room full of tech guys probably isn't something he's use to :)

@Hakageryuu very good point. I'm just pointing out that as a humanities guy, delivery is supposed to be his speciality. (I'm more noticing the lack of structure in the story he tells than the style he uses to tell it). Like I said, it's excellent content.

@@theprogram863 nah, not necessarily. There's a bunch of research nerds in the humanities too that aren't naturals at public speaking. It's a learned skill for most people

@@an1skh4n Yeah but what I meant by structure is, can you write an outline of his talk? I would have trouble doing so. A good research paper has a structure that makes you as easy to understand as possible. So it's more that I'm surprised at what he did a week before when he was writing the powerpoint. If there's one thing humanities pushes (especially for research nerds) it's how to outline a good paper.

Very well said my friend

yep called being he grey man. Blend in. You don't want to stand out. By making lots of calls to various places and people you blend in more with the rest of the sheeple.

Richard Driskill innocent until... someone says you’re not? Is that really the standard you want to apply to yourself, as well?

@@JasperJanssen Ah but he's *special.* He's a badass. He uses allcaps.

Fair trials apply to those who act fairly, when you're caught by one of them see if they treat you fairly. My father was a commissioner for a task force, in my country he was getting my glasses as a child and ended being pursuit by a bad guy. I was a kid who didn't do anything. People like that don't know right from wrong and shouldn't be given a choice, because if it is, it's gonna be one that involves you being lifeless or held captive. I 100% support what our governments are doing. Just because you don't care enough the delve to understand what's happening doesn't mean it's wrong, it's just ignorance on your end.

I was thinking that oft mentioned loaf of bread was gonna somehow become a bigger part of the story, like we find out that that was in fact a Russian KGB agent disguised as a loaf of bread, but alas it was just a normal loaf of bread.

@@UnknownSend3r was it though?

I watched the Robin Thicke Train Wrecks by Todd in the Shadows

@@rodchavoya Me too!

So that's why...

The think you are jason bourn

@@dzidmail news makes use of that

Patrick Cameron The Intercept`s key funder is the owner of PayPal...They do some good work, they also have some pretty horrible output and people working there.

@@user-ff8ww8bq9q Maybe the reason why it was mentioned a good fit was the name: the intercept ? :-)

Gotta love syntactic ambiguity!

And here I thought becoming a CIA agent required an immense level of intellect...

@@adriatical9016 You don't need to be intellectual if you don't have to fear from any type of consequences.

@@norwegiangangsta or people that really just have nothing to lose perhaps

@@norwegiangangsta You're right. The US has so much power over NATO countries that countries such as Italy are complete vassals. In fact it's ridiculous for Italy to not surveil terrorists but to harass US intel for having to watch EU people itself.

to you mind explaining that to me a little? What is swiping? I dont have a phone anymore, i havent had one since flip phones. Do you mean swiping at all on the screen leaves the data?

John Smith was here.

fwd2.0

that guy must have watched Enemy of the State (1998) and took it too seriously lmao

thats espionage, other countrys do that, not only US

@@GabrielM01 - Ach really? When did the German BND last kidnap people? Hm?

​@@thekaiser4333 when its done right no one know, you dint saw that happen, exactly you didnt saw, doesnt mean it dont happened

@@GabrielM01 - Not an argument. This is about facts not about belief. If you believe go to church, not to youtube. PS: "Espionage" is about collecting information, not about collecting people.

@UCRaT9zZjqZ8AJpUHKk8NQEA collecting people can lead to collect information btw, iam not saying its right, but thats what it is

Gee, I wonder... Maybe it's because the CIA is Mossad's mistress

you would be amazed at how shitty government equipment is even for three letter agencies. not specific toys you see on history channel or from research labs they fund or experimental stuff, just the average tools to get the job done. You'd balk at the amount of trust placed in WhatsApp overseas.

Remember, they're a government agency. Lots of money != lots of effectiveness. Also, it makes a certain amount of sense. The moment you try using your own funky radio network, you're radiating strange signals that counterintelligence and law enforcement will pick up. It will immediately pique their curiosity. And we're not just talking about the Italians, but any organization that has enough of a physical presence to be able to monitor wireless frequencies and report on them to HQ. The Russians are famous for having their embassies bristle with antenna farms, for example, and that's not even counting satellite monitoring. So you try to piggyback on the local cell phone network so you can get lost in the traffic. That works... right up until someone is able to untangle the spaghetti and identify weird usage patterns. (BTW the same applies to countries that have camera networks used by law enforcement. You can track license plates and even potentially faces and get a good idea of where people are going... then use that to sort out weird movement patterns. Financial analysts have used this to catch money laundering operations for years.) This is a story of how bureaucratic inertia on the operations side lead people to use tactics that were once fine but now make them obvious targets. Also probably overconfidence because despite the Achille Lauro incident, Italy is still seen as a "friendly" country that wouldn't interfere in a counter-terrorism operation. The worst part of all this is that you don't just analyze today's intelligence take. The idea is that you archive all the metadata you collect. When you develop a new method for detecting criminals and/or foreign agents, you use that technique retroactively on the archive as well. So even if the intelligence officers are informed about the new technique before it is used, they are still vulnerable to their past behavior being detected. So if your archival search pings on a potential enemy spy / terrorist / criminal in the past, you can start watching them in the present (and everyone they've ever had contact with).

WhatsApp with end to end encryption mode is used often by the CIA.

I hope they keep using consumer grade software/hardware because they'll overall improve the security for everyone. Sure, backdoors will be added, but they'll be added regardless.

@@pilotavery signal muxh safer

What programs/set-up do you use for these incoming notifications? Id like to set up a system for a similar sort of thing - to collate several bits of unrelated data in an easily readable format that gives live updates

Interested in this if you can expand a bit more.

@jay fuckin thanks god, i was really worried for a min

Not *that* allied. Italy isn’t one of the Five Eyes.

europeans have a history of letting terrorists escape when they're allowed to do things their own way

In Europe they actually realise that kidnapping and torturing people over mere suspicions is wrong

Read the history of the Achille Lauro and what the Italians and Egyptians did to aid the terrorists escape.

@@user-ck7sf2xc6c nope, they let terrorists escape, on purpose, because they don't care, and they don't mind that terrorists use their countries as safehouses, so long as they don't attack their own country.

There have been a lot worse at these Black Hat and Defcon things. I thought he did pretty well tbh

I think he did great. Hes a news journalist not a 'hacker' hes gonna be a bit nervous, not to mention the subject matter

Jeez. Overcritical much ?😂

Yeah why would he be nervous disclosing a failed operation by the CIA and naming names at a hacker conference after having his book banned?

I guess getting caught with encrypted radios is a give away that you are a spy, everyone has a cellphone.

@@nicolaspeigne1429 well, let's hope the spies dont get caught :P

Fam at this point had they used even rotary phones from the 50's they'd have been better off. For an organization that has access to military frequencies, the capability to setup their own transmission equipment... This is a really messed up operation. They used their real names? They registered sims to the organization? Seems like a case of years of not much going wrong and getting lazy about opsec. Maybe having opsec teams that regularly audit ops and monitor practices in the field could reduce the risks of field supervisors playing fast and loose like this. Jeez. Humiliation city.

Same problem. Mail is scanned. Literally, most mail in the developed world goes through high volume scanners so there are images of the physical letters and packages traversing the system. It’s not even any sort of a secret. USPS and I’m sure other postal agencies will helpfully email you a daily digest of medial coming to your mailbox, with scans of the face of every thin piece of mail heading your way. So again there’s metadata and if you don’t want to stick out like a sore thumb you better had lots of penpals. The “clean phones” idea was stupid. The cleanest phone is one that calls most like any other random phone. Last thing you want is few calls to few numbers at narrow time slots.

Yeah, and have them intercepted by the postal office. I punch those numbers into Analyst's Notebook, it makes a happy face.

Me :D

That's what's up. Did you decide to purchase it?

Yes I did, no regrets, its an amazing lesson!

I didn't get it this time unfortunately but the next. I will just wishlist it for now since I bought other courses. It's more security and I took some ethical hacking courses that do teach that as well and I think that is fine for now until maybe next year.

Me too

I think he's just really nervous, and maybe has some sort of phobia about speaking in front if a crowd. He's making me nervous just watching him.

Lee Debo you are probably right. It is a really entertaining and informative and if he can do a good speech like this he has no reason to be nervous.

omg, came here looking for someone else who noticed. a 4yr old video and this within 30 mins. it's really unfortunate, i'd like to hear the story but all I see/hear is him swallowing jawbreakers or something

That and him saying “ah” and “um” every 3 words is insufferable.

Outing the CIA on stage has that effect on people, I guess.

Alexey Penniez people are humans, how surprising.

@@JasperJanssen you're right. people are imperfect and should never work to improve themselves, for example working on public speaking knowing you'll be presenting at a major conference.

He said 3rd country not 3rd world.

@@h2flow1 ah, yeah. Still I think its not!

Day-tah

It's moss code for: am bursting for the fcking toilet 😉

First time speaker not used to shots maybe?

I was waiting for him to throw-up.

He puffed the devil's lettuce an hour before so I suspect he had cotton mouth.

He said third-party, not third-world.

Yeah Croatia is a second world country

The Kaiser why would he?

Cory Goodman It is very impolite to answer a question with a counter question. You should be ashamed of yourself.

The Kaiser it's a logical follow up. my little finger twas' raised whilst asking. i believe that alone is a magnitude more politeness than required.

Cory Goodman Fiddlesticks!

If you think this conference is about anything that isn't ethically OK, I've got some bad news for you, bro.

Fuck off. Stop being so fragile.

who cares lol

So the underground camel riders Association ucra .?

lol

Right. I'm sure you'd think the same if we Italians were to run a covert op kidnapping people in USA without any notice let alone approval of said country.

@@36424567254 you do, it's called the mafia

@@krakenmetzger so the mafia isn't a for-profit criminal organization, it actually works for the italian secret service, and most importantly, they're good guys. Great, thanks for opening my eyes.