S55 Nightmare SPUN MY CRANKHUB...Twice!!
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3 ай бұрынIn this video I talk about how I Spun my BMW M4 F82 S55 Crank hub not once but twice since I bought it. Also I show you the best spot in NorCal to get the crank hub replaced.
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@mcintosh.motors 3 ай бұрын
3+ years on a CS map with 103K miles, driven hard daily but also dual purpose with a few tracks days. Definitely will be doing the hub before I go full GT4. Thanks for all you do for the platform; just goes to show it really needs to be done for absolute piece of mind!
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
No problem, glad you enjoy the content. Yeah, definitely a thing that unfortunately should be done. You may get lucky like me twice and just go a bit out of time but it sucks when the valves crash and it costs the big bucks. I think my biggest reason for not doing it was just not knowing of a good shop around that wanted to tackle the feat. Also I feel like if I did it before the spin I would have be a lot more likely to do the repair myself.
@hydarail6477 3 ай бұрын
you put 100k miles on a cs god damn
@BryanClementi 3 ай бұрын
Such a bummer but I'm glad you got it fixed.
@briant64 3 ай бұрын
Those guys at performance dynamics are amazing! They've been taking care of my E92 M3 for a few months now and it's just nothing but great customer service
@comet30265 3 ай бұрын
Damn dude that blows but hey you got fixed and hopefully it runs like a champ for a good while before the next issue comes along
@hkindahouse1 3 ай бұрын
Great content! I was shopping around for quotes in the bay area to get this done and Performance Dynamics was the one I was planning to go to as well with their SSR Maximum keyed 4pin. This makes me feel more confident going to them since I barely trust shops doing work on my car. Planning to get this done soon and get exhaust camshaft ticking noise fixed while they're in there.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah they can do that as well. They asked me if my car was doing that but I haven’t had that issue at all. Overall they did a great job.
@jamalamin9379 3 ай бұрын
I had my crankhub done at performancedynamic. I have a 17 comp with a stage 1 tune no mods but decided to do it for preventative purposes. I had the same “tick” sound as well and it was the valvetronic servomotor which is going to run the cost up a bit but trust me for a piece of mind it’s totally worth it. My advice is also get a crank seal guard kit as well and also do spark plugs because it’ll cross in the labor. But performance dynamic is great and I also went with SSR 4 pin! Good luck to you and enjoy you will not regret doing the preventative maintenance.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
@@jamalamin9379 yep, I got the guard installed also.
@carsandcoldbrew6489 Ай бұрын
S5xPerformance will be in Norcal soon!
@simpleclean2468 3 ай бұрын
I work at a shop. Guy bought a an M3 4dr 2017 auction car and spent another 20k getting an engine parts etc. Took the car left the engine and my boss said, " I dont want this in my shop, back your truck up, I'm gonna get the forklift." Well lets see what i can take apart and have fun. There wasnt metal in the pan, but somethings bent. Free S55 though, wish me luck.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Dang dope! Probably a bent rod or something.
@paulkline1522 3 ай бұрын
Im currently doing my hub in my garage, with a Precision dynamics keyed hub. Communication with those guys by phone/email isnt really great. But that being said, I like their hub design, and I appreciate the videos that they have made
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would’ve attempted this one myself, but due to the fact that my motor was already out of time I was kind of nervous about screwing it up. So I wanted to have a shop that was proficient do it just because I would’ve been into it I think about $1500 for the tools gaskets and what not. Doing it on jackstands also doesn’t sound fun, but I hope yours goes well and you’re able to bust out more in the future. 👍🏻👍🏻
@paulkline1522 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage So far so good man. I think you made a great decision using Precision Dynamics! Im not knocking you at all. Glad to see youll be ripping the track again!
@TommyLGarage 3 ай бұрын
Geeez this sucks man! You’re a brave man to be running the car still!
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
I actually tracked the car in limp mode that day and ran a 1:29 on thunderhill west so I could get points for time attack. 😂
@Jbonly21 3 ай бұрын
Damn that sucks, when I did mine at 68k the friction washer was pretty worn.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I forgot to grab my old one. I would have like to have seen it and kept it as a souvenir.
@BosaFTW 3 ай бұрын
Here in Germany the crankhub fix is sold for €599 from Kotte Performance as there popped out so many new companies releasing new products so the price competition got huge
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Is it an actual crank hub that pins into the crankshaft or is that just one of those capture bolt things because those are kind of a gimmick? They literally do nothing but make you feel good.
@BosaFTW 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage it is the real deal you have to drill into your crankshaft. Just google „Kotte Performance crankhub“ It is with 2 giant pins, not the tiny ones lol
@MB-js4us 3 ай бұрын
The oil squirters are to cool the pistons actually.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Nice 👍🏻 pretty rad to see
@BaoNguyen-hi6ml 3 ай бұрын
Hi Blake, Thank you for sharing your experience about the crank up. I had question about your first crank hub spin. Did you replace OEM or aftermarket for you 1st time crank hub spin? I was little confused when you mentioned at BMW dealer and you asked them to install your aftermarket crank hub. Because I am going to replace aftermarket 4 pin crank hub, and I'm wondering if 4 pin crank hub still having the same issue with OEM crank hub or not. Sorry for long paragraph, and I really apricate your item!!!
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Sorry I thought I made that clear. No, the dealership just replaced the stock crank hub. I had a Gintani and asked if they would install it but they said no. So I sold that and kept the engine tune stock for the next 30k. At the time no local shop wanted to even attempt the fix especially because my car was “broken”.
@BaoNguyen-hi6ml 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage Thank you for you information Blake!
@stangy007 Ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage how come you didn't choose the Gintani crank hub the second time instead of the one from kies, especially since its one piece?
@BlakesGarage Ай бұрын
@@stangy007 I had sold that one two years prior
@ashtonharris7177 3 ай бұрын
Spun my hub 2 months with stage 1 ots 6mt too
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Interesting not many 6mt people chime in to say that. How was then engine still ran fine or crashed valves?
@terrancecollins2696 3 ай бұрын
I think they didn’t do a recall because it’s probably not as common as we think it is, it’s just something that’s talked about a lot because of how catastrophic it can be. And a lot of cars that have it happen are tuned and that gives BMW much more reason to not recall it lol but it does suck
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
IDK, I think it's because people just took it upon themselves to do the fix before failure. So there were way less recorded failures. Think about how many people did rod bearings every 35k miles on the S65 good to be precautionary but still ridiculous if your paying a shop and acting like its just normal maintenance.
@user-ks5ow9gx5p 3 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t take it to a shop to install the aftermarket crankhub. Was it because you were still on warranty with BMW?
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the first time it happened Bmw just fixed it with stock parts and flagged my car. so then at that point, I decided not to tune the car again and just run it stock because I didn’t want to spend like $4500 at the time to have a shop do it. No one at this point wanted to take responsibility and doing the modification at that time locally that I knew of just too much of a liability every shop said.
@RevItRalph 3 ай бұрын
Ive put 70K on Stage 2+ E30 FBO with countless track days and top of 6th pulls in my F82 6MT with the OEM CH. Still No CH issues here. Yes its not a myth but its blown out of proportion. Sucks it happened you twice but at least you didnt have motor damage.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, for sure I think it’s more of a prevalent thing in DCT cars. But yeah, anything above a CS map I would say you’re just kind of a ticking timebomb on when it’s gonna happen not if.
@Steezelouiz 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been Mhd stage 1 for 19k miles, currently at 39k miles on the stock hub of my m4. Honestly, I think the issue how someone is driving the car. The m4 gts makes around 500 hp on the same hub. A friend of mine has 110k miles on the stock hub on bm3 stage 2. Personally I would like to get mine done but I can’t find a local shop around the DC area that doesn’t want to charge 6-7k, which is not a fair price whatsoever.
@gixxerhoff7502 3 ай бұрын
Now that you’ve done it , will you go back to E85? I’m at 120k now 25+ track days state 2 flex on stock hub. Considering it now since I’ve gotten fast. Usually run CS on track.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
You sure it was never done? Were you the first owner? If not wouldn’t surprise me if someone did it. As far as E85 probably not due to the fact that it’s hard to get at racetracks. Plus, the torque is super spiky. I’d probably have to get another tune with a more linear throttle. I don’t know if you ever watched my E85 autocross video but it was quite fun.
@gixxerhoff7502 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage don’t think so. Bought with 45k miles and warranty. I did do the capture when I tuned her at 60k . I love it on E85, but know exactly what you mean about the throttle. Same with 93 stage 2
@VuBeClan 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage get boost by gear or just make your own tune, it isn't that hard. See where your turbo spools and set boost targets x rpm so you won't have those spikes
@flexspec 3 ай бұрын
Please tell me you see the common denominator in both of these situations? And please tell me you stopped doing it. Like how many times does one need to hit their head on a wall to know that it hurts and not do it again.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
I mean I spun it two different ways, if you were listening. Yes,both times the “fix” wasn’t done. Now I have a 4 pin VAC crank hub. But I’m sharing my experience so people don’t think it’s a myth. Also I’m sharing that is not always a catastrophic failure and it can just put the engine slightly out of time but still run fine until repaired.
@yg78t76t7 3 ай бұрын
This sucks man. I'm Stage 2 bootmod3 on stock crankhub, stock everything, but haven't messed with E85 because it seems like it almost certainly spins when going on E. And my car is 105k miles. No issues thus far.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, the second time I did it I was on stock crank hub again because Bmw just replaced it with the original crank hub. I did not do a fix. I don’t know if I stated that well enough. But it’s fun for the second time on a pretty basic stage one tune. So yeah it’s just one of those things. You’re definitely risking it and it can happen at any time unfortunately. Especially when you’re pumping out higher numbers than a CS map.
@gregpapagno5683 3 ай бұрын
I run the cs map in my manual car
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Great Map probably my favorite from BMW for the S55
@DJ-ir2qy 3 ай бұрын
How much was labor?
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Hit them up and get a quote homie 👍🏻👍🏻
@SaturdayWinter 3 ай бұрын
Kickdown + anything over a normal stage 1 tune on a DCT car = danger zone for your crankhub spinning.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah kick down is a big one but I also did it just driving on basically a stage 1 tube the second time.
@elpeladodelsamba 2 ай бұрын
Definetly not a mith! F80 lci did a stage 1 and spun it 100 miles after ! Did the vargas crankhub and never had an issue again! Tha car had 9000kms at that time like 5200miles from new
@BlakesGarage 2 ай бұрын
Exactly it happens a lot! Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻
@elpeladodelsamba 2 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage no worries! Great video!
@azsportrider 3 ай бұрын
You need to put a cbc if you don't want to spin your hub.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Nah, that thing’s a marketing joke in my opinion.
@jmm5346 3 ай бұрын
I did not need to see this today 😢. I’ve been on stage one for about 1k mi now, I’ve owned the car stock for 20k mi prior now at 23k and have never been on edge until I started digging into crankhub after the tune. This shit really has me on edge, bunch of people saying it’s BS, other bunch saying you should do it or you’re going to need a new engine, then you have this guy that’s driving on a spin hub. I’m just highly confused on what is just shop scare marketing and what’s an actual concern. Also, if a shop does it and the shit does spin, are they liable or will they tell you to kick rocks? Nobody, not even a shop would want to be held liable for a $35k engine. This shit got me freaked out man.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, due to the fact that I knew it only spun slightly I wasn’t worried about driving it as the engine was in limp mode and make 0 boost. But Stage 1 is definitely territory for a spun hub. I think the CS map is about as high as you wanna go before really worrying about it. I only drove this car on the new tune for maybe 600 miles and it spun. I’d say it was a bit more spicy than a stage 1 but very similar down low.
@Steezelouiz 2 ай бұрын
I really believe it depends on how much you abuse your car, track use is much harder on the hub on with stock tune then occasionally pulls on the highways with a stage 1 tune. Driving on the track you are constantly upshifting and downshifting which extremely stresses the friction ring of the hub. A stage 1 tune makes a little more power than a gts. Get the crank hub capture, lock the flywheel with a screw driver and crank down on the crank bolt with a torque wrench and make sure that sucker is tight, then through the capture on. This can all be from under the car without removing anything up top.
@ThePatrickBateman69 3 ай бұрын
Why do I see more F82 with spun CH than F80 🤔
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s mostly because M4 owners tend to tune the cars more and drive them more like asshats. One of these days, M4’s gonna be super rare because everybody crashes them.
@ThePatrickBateman69 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage about to pull the trigger on a 15 f80 6MT 45k miles all stock california car clean title PPI came back clean no leaks or issues, test drive is good too from the tech, seller wants $40k, should I do it? i think it’ll be worth like $35k with 70k miles in a couple years when im done with it
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
@@ThePatrickBateman69 it’s honestly so hard to say if it wasn’t modded much and is actually stock then yeah. If it is modded and allmods were very high-quality and tasteful I would say yeah. But if it’s got a whole bunch of ///M stripes on it and stripe grill, a disgusting steering wheel and the leather is all shiny then I would hard pass.
@BlakesGarage 3 ай бұрын
Oh also make sure you know how much insurance cost because it is a hell of a lot of money and you need to be ready to pay that a month. Most people underestimate that the car is going to be like three to $400 for insurance a month.
@ThePatrickBateman69 3 ай бұрын
@@BlakesGarage yeah its completely stock and the PPI showed 0 codes in the DME and all suspension components are OEM, owner drove it 4k in the last 2 years lmao hes just tryna get rid of it. He paid $47k 2 years for it. I think this one with an extended warranty thru my credit union will be a keeper tbh. literally only mods were gloss black kidneys and wheel spacers. brand new ps4s in the front and 85% tread rears, brake and rotors are good, only think is it’ll need sparks at 47k but i already budgeted $500 for that from my local bmw specialist shop.
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