hmmm disagree

Kay... so... do you actually have an opinion on the episode or do you just generally disagree? If it's the first, great! I'd like to hear what you have to say about the episode, such as what you liked and disliked (or at least why you disagreed with my comment). If it's the second, then you're not adding anything substantial to the conversation or the comment section in general.

The episode got a 9.5/10 from me though

It's kind of a ovious concept like Discord learning that you should not change yourself to be just like your friends and Applejack learing the dangers of honestly. You would think those lessons would have been done before but they all worked great now when they were done.

Personally, i'm in an odd position here: I'm usually the one to go around explaining how an episode is NOT contrived at all, how reactions and actions and situations can be explained rationally, but here ..... i find faults. (I used to only dislike "Spike at your service", for Spike being out-of-character, but that was until someone suggested that Spike may simply be far more connected to Twilight than one assumed.) So the problem i find here has been pointed out by at least both Dr Wolf and RarityDash thus far: The Boastbuter Moustaches. Sure, RarityDash did not mention them specifically, but there was the "surely Twi and Starlight would have known some way", and in Boastbusters, Twilight DID create hair(moustaches) from nothing! And she repeated it once in Magic Duel. This is inconsistency for the sake of plot, but then again, several things from earlier seasons has become ..... slowly defined in ways that in extension do not work with how it was first done, and one of the more aggravating things are "you can't make something from nothing, even with magic" that is mentioned here. There is the idea that Zecora's potions are semi-magical, and that using more magic on it would risk interfere far worse .... BUT THAT WAS NEVER GIVEN AS AN EXPLANATION, or even hinted at! Hm.... I think i'm getting a headcanon on the matter. Some of the magic has disappeared from Equestria, affecting some of the rules of magic. .....Yup, i think that would work. Now, that is not due to a huge magic-eating monster .... but due to events that has happened in Equestria Girls. Yup. I think that headcanon fits.

What if Derpy got a punk rock look? You would probably explode.

Derpy with a punk rock hair do flies by at 23:28, but who knows what would happen if she had the fashion, too. Her look in the EQG "Life Is A Runway" short was pretty great, though.

rarity got extra points from me for that look biased here but I like the grunge look better than the normal one XD

SteveMorison I kind of wish her mane stayed like that for a few episodes

SteveMorison no shit sherlock

RARITY'S INNER SELF IS A PUNK!

SteveMorison she was actually improvising.

SteveMorison Rarity true Persona showed up punk version is cool looking

James W yeah kinda missed opportunity for a good spike and rarity moment

OMG TRUE. That would have been great!! Edit: And extremely cute!

James W The *entire* episode I was saying "talk to Spike and make a mohawk." _Well... one of those things happened..._ But seriously, if she did, she probably would have gotten the inspiration for the Mohawk sooner since it's basically Spike's spines design. Instead he's the silent janitor cleaning up around the plot.

To be fair, he wouldn't have much to work with. Not much hair there.

It would have been a better idea than Fluttershy's

StromShadow True.

Not much to work with? I know that his first showcase example in the episode was meant as a joke, but it shows that he may have liked the challenge.

dude, he turned some leaves and other wierd stuff into an actual wig, so he could probably do something with her mane

StormShadow Lyra gonna get jealous

Booped that snoot.

At least "stabilized" the timeline fluctuations/discrepancies caused by the Twin Cakes never aging [by "moving back" and compressing a lot of other episodes like the BigMac/SugarBelle, Perfect Pear and THIS ONE into a non-linear sequence happening mostly on S5/S6]. A newborn is expected to sneeze and do other neurological spontaneous things on their first month of life [this episode happens 1 year after the end of that episode in season 2 were they were exactly 1 month old]. Also puts a hard "timeframe limitation" between a certain normal day on the life of UNICORN Twilight Sparkle and another day (about one year later) were the ALICORN Twilight had her student Starlight Glimmer helping her friend Rarity... -> This episode starts months after Twilight´s first Hearts Warming Eve with Spike in her castle ("Hearthbreakers" [S5E20]) and the S5 finale (because Starlight is her student); but ends still before the next one in "A Hearth's Warming Tail" [S6E08]; because Rarity had her mane normal again (and that was the first Hearts Warming Eve of Starlight with them).

yeah... it's getting pretty weird at this point...

RarityDash yeah and considering that Flurry Heart seems alot older and shes way younger.

I chalk that up to Flurry Heart being a Alicorn, I imagine she acts more mature then other fillies her age. Same with being able to control her magic better, because she's an Alicorn. And Sunburst helping with her magic probably helps. But yeah the Cake twins need to age.

Book Lover that makes a little sense. But yeah the cakes have been the same age since like what, season 2 or 3?

Yeah it's really weird. Normally the series is good with this stuff, I mean imagine the story potential if they aged the Cakes up? The Cake twins should technically be like a year or two older (maybe three years, at the most) then Flurry Heart and yet they still look around the same age.

Definitely. If anything I love her badass side more.

You know, there's an animation that's like this episode. Rarity's Ruined Mane by EDplus777.

Also... that woodpeker is everywhere in this episode..

Yeah, but she looks like she would have done it in a cloud wig if it would have stayed on. If she considered that, why not just a normal one?

Albeit this doesn't seem to be a hard and fast rule. That is Twilight said the reason to not make a mane purely out of magic is that it could have a disastrous result, not because it was impossible. We then see her and Starlight use the very magic Twilight warned Rarity about when Rarity said she was desperate enough, and we get that explosion of hair in the castle (I highly doubt they went and made a a few hundred ponies bald, plus the hair in the castle didn't look much like it was from manes, just random wild hair growth). Though perhaps with such a spell they are turning magic directly into matter, and its just unstable.

Hm, its possible that getting the exact amount of material is difficult, if their magic works on equivalent exchange they may have converted air into hair but controlling how much is transmuted may be extremely difficult hense why they ended up with so much , its also possible that hair is particularly hard to make because it is comprised of hundreds of strands rather than being a solid object like an orange or a teacup.

While the info on magic was interesting, one of course still wonders why they didn't explain why a wig wasn't an option, especially when we know wigs exist (Crankey wears one). An easy out would be to say its pretty much unknown for mares to go bald so all wigs are for male ponies and donkeys, but the "mare pattern baldness" joke makes that seem unlikely. Another option would be to have Rarity not be willing to go with hair that wasn't a part of her, but her being willing to use clouds makes that seem unlikely too. Still a good episode, the logical problems weren't enough to detract from it for me (unlike the Daring Do episode).

Hm....the only thing i can come up with is that rarity felt that using a store bought wig is like entering a store bought cake in a best cake design competition, all of the ones her friends made for her were hand crafted with the exception of applejack's but rarity dismissed that one on the basis that a hat didn't fit the purpose of the photo shoot.

That didn't occur to me actually, That sounds like a reasonable idea, though thorax might not have been available on such short notice seeing as he runs a small country, pity ponyvile doesn't have any resident changelings, they don't seem to leave their hive very often it would be nice to slowly start seeing them appear in the background mingling with society and helping improve relations with the ponies, particularly those in canterlot, i suspect that public opinion of changelings there isn't stellar as a result of their attempted coup.

Good point... and also, Twilight is right about how the hair must come from somewhere since hair is not like tree come from seed.

I think Chrysalis might be the villain for the finale, but I could be wrong, she also might appear in the season 8 premiere.

I think it was said somewhere that the Pony of Shadows was going to be in this season and the finale is called Shadow Play.

As do I. I'd love to see it return at some point.

i... don't think i can get used to it, I WILL TRY?

I dont get it, but okay!

That makes sense... but if that's the case why did she even ever go along with Applejack, Rainbow and Fluttershy's attempts to help her? She seemed pretty happy with the cloud mane as a solution at first too. The problem being it wouldn't stay on, not that it wasn't natural.

RarityDash She was somewhat comfortable with Applejack, Fluttershy, and Rainbow Dash because its her friends, Discord doesn't falls under that catergory for Rarity

That was in response to your first point. Why would she be going along for these attempts at kind of outlandish, unnatural manes and even seem for a moment satified with one made of clouds but never consider a normal wig?

RarityDash I can admit that was at least part of the plot device(Also I didn't see the connection to the first one, sorry about that).

RarityDash maybe it was because she was freaking out. When Rarity goes into full drama mode, you can forget about any rational thought

I saw a lot of the neat background details in the episode, but I missed that one. Nice!

RarityDash, how can you missed that one? It was in the foreground.

Twilight grew facial hair in the first season. I can't imagine mane hair is that much harder.

Well... it got mix up with a magic remover potion, which the reason make it harder to fix

To be fair. It's possible that the moustache Twilight made for Spike is just a construct and would have disappeared after awhile. In this show whenever magic is used to change someone's body it's never really permanent like when Twilight tried to give Applebloom a cutie mark. Also, growing manes sound like a very intricate process and Twilight and Starlight have never done that before. They probably don't know how to only use the right amount to grow a mane instead of overpowering it.

But that would have given them a perfect excuse to make Rapunzel Dash... No serious a hair growing Rarity doll sounds like a thing Hasbro might want to have a promotion for eventually ;)

Yeah, somehow I knew that was going to be your argument. I noticed it only after I posted the original comment and couldn't edit or reply because the video was taken down. Anyway, are you sure those were real? No dragon in the show has had facial hair, and very few have had hair at all. I've counted three throughout the entire series, and it's still not clear whether or not that's actually hair. In fact, with one of the dragons that has "hair" (the one who wanted to make burps an official greeting in S6E5), I'm almost convinced those are scales because of the way they stick up in the back. Other than that, Would you really believe that to be Spike's natural hair color? What about Snips and Snails? Heck, it was used on Trixie in Magic Duel... What about her? Is gray her natural color for facial hair? As Twilight stated in this episode, and Starlight in a previous episode, when magic makes something appear/disappear, it has to come from somewhere (unless it's dark magic, but that's a topic for another day). So that must be a solution: That it came from somewhere else, not Trixie's face. Or Spike's. Or Snips' and Snails' for that matter. Artificial hair isn't that far-fetched, especially since it was such a huge part of this episode. My logic in thinking it's similar to an age spell is the way growth works. It's a slow growth over time. The age spell attempts to speed up or even reverse it. That's got to take a lot of power to do. Hair growth is the same way. To alter the process of time is something the show has only addressed once, and let's be honest, Twilight was a little loopy when she said that ("I'll just have to stop time!"). I'm not counting time travel in this because that's not altering the process of time. It only changes the outcome, not the process.

In an effort to show that she really has changed she invites the others at her house for a slumber party. (With her mother out of the house perhaps) The CMC and Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon go truth or dare and end up at the castle of the two sisters. The CMC have trouble finding out what the new pony's talent is who is rather stuck up, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon offer to help.

Josh Blackwell a new pony arrives at the school and becomes the new diamond tiara. When diamond tiara sees him and what he does she's disgusted by his behaviour and wants to apologise to everyone for what she did by helping them anyway she can. The end of the episode would be about her learning that she has changed and has become a better pony. Being upset by who you used to be is enough proof that you care for ponies and their well being.

I think a slumber party is a great Idea! I would love to see the CMC, Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon actually hanging out as friends!

Maybe she starts hanging out with the CMC and hang out at each of their houses exept Diamond Tiara's, when the CMC convince her to let them hang out there, Spoiled Rich comes along and messes everything up and starts arguing with her daughter

Perhaps go with another "adult" issue like teaching kids to deal with the death of a pet...perhaps Diamond has to deal with her parents getting divorced?

Book Lover Cause she is also poked fun at her looks at times as its own thing

Lol lol: That's true.

Book Lover I thought it was hilarious! Though my interpretation of it it's more shifted, this episode is funny nonetheless

Nguyen Tai Huy: I didn't find it as good as other Rarity episodes (In my humble opinion of course). I feel like this was an episode that could have been done in season 1, 2 or 3 because as RarityDash said the plot did seem a bit forced. Like Zephyr breeze is making wigs! He couldn't have made one for Rarity? There were no wigs in Ponyville? I found that hard to believe, but maybe that's just me. Just seems like a better plot for a season 1, 2 or 3 episode.

But still, for what it was, it was enjoyable.

Ya, so the episode could have been solved way easier!

He's obviously going to have a dirty joke about the baked goods. He just has to... Also, speaking of DWK, when is RarityDash gonna react to 5-8 of DWK's Totally Legit Recap's? +Tracey1302 It would be nice if he was more consistent, but he is mortal, as is his liver. Give him time... just not MovieMowDown levels of time. It's been 3 years and we *STILL* haven't gotten Part 5 of Blue Spy... >:x

GOT YOUR WISH

Bud Charles lol XD

Twilight has grown mustaches before.

Were they grown or did they just appear on their faces? It wouldn't surprise me if they were just magical constructs that would've disappeared with time.

As Fluttershy would say, yay

YAY! Two of my favorite characters!

FLUTTERSHY IS AMAZING

I always felt that the moustache was just a magical construct and would have disappeared after a while.

Would the cloud mane Rainbow put on her be a solution to the photo shoot? She seemed pretty satisfied with that at first.

The cloud looked spectacular enough for a photo shoot.