Tracy Spelman checkmate

Not just any chess piece, but the Rook specifically. Though Rooks are usually the henchmen, not the puppet masters, which makes me wonder who's pulling Cozy's strings

Justin Galloway I still don’t see Chancellor’s cutie mark, so either maybe he’s the one pulling Cozy’s strings or it’s someone else?

@@TheFunnyGuy9000 you make 0 sense.

@@TheFunnyGuy9000 yeah, it's definitely Cansler who is good (and might I add he never was evil in the first place, he just was racist, but everything he has ever done was to protect Equestria in his way) now, who was arrested by Cozy and who couldn't see that it wasn't creatures but Cozy who was taking the magic Yeah, makes sense if you ask me, why wouldn't he plan all of this to accomplish... what exactly Let's look at it unsarcasticly: He has no motive He has no Way to do it He has no control over the situation He has no intention of hurting anypony He didn't even know that it was Cozy taking the magic How and why would he do it? I'm sorry, I'm kinda sick of people crossing him of just because he is racist, he saw his mistakes and apologized... I think, what else do you want him to do

Priorities

So if Celestia lost her magic then how tf is the sun still moving? Furthermore, if she can no longer move the sun then theoretically the 3rd day should never come. Serious plot holes here.

ShadowBolt My theory is that the Sun and Moon move on their own, it's just more efficient for Celestia and Luna to move them.

I think the whole "magic disappearing forever when the Sun sets on the 3rd day" was just an writing error, and Celestia really was just talking about how much time they had to get the magic back, whether she sets the Sun or not. If she'll said they had a certain of hours to get Equestria's magic back instead, there's been no plot hole.

@@ShadowBoltTF2 She never lost her magic.

Or he doesn't really care, considering how often he doesn't help. Storm King, Pony of Shadows, Starlight, ext.

If every other chimeric creature in the country was losing their power, who's to say that the strongest chimeric creature wouldn't be effected? After all, every bit of Unicorn magic, including that belonging to Alicorns was drained completely by the end of day 1

that's what i was thinking

Discord is overrated that's why. They already fit in tons of characters in this. All they're doing is just adding more characters after characters.

@@lunaitc unless his dimension is outside of Equestria's boarders

No. She said control.

@@titanhades4331 Ah. Thank you. I wasn't sure whether it's power or control

I was sure that she was controlled by neighsay becase I thought her eyes were blue then her eyes were red hypnotized but no

@@michaellarson2616 nope her eyes are red from the start of her debut .. i wish she never made her debut lmao

@@ifancyyouofficial9697 *growling Winona noises*

Only took the perpetrator being a young filly though....

Really

@@1712Overture Eh, I suppose; but it is a good, slightly more, "realistic" reasoning. I get it, it's Pinkie, but even she has to obey the laws of the universe every once in a while... I hope. Not to mention, she never had any forewarning for anything that happened here. She's usually pretty good about that.

@Yuma DeSenn I agree because it only makes sense. In season 1 ep 15 'Feeling Pinkie Keen' she had this Pinkie sense that could sense when things were about to occur/happen. People describe it as an 'unusual ability'. Also, all the other creatures lost their abilities, and so did the ponies. That means that her Pinkie sense isn't just an unusual ability or coincidence, but magic. Also, Also, since it is confirmed to have run in the family, it isn't just her talent like talking to animals, which is why Fluttershy was still able to.

Personally, I don't even think she's a pony. Her comment to Starlight "You ponies" started me down that path. My thoughts? It was revealed that, for season 9 we'd be getting another old Gen 1 villain coming in with an overhaul, like they did for Tirek. Grogar was some kind of goat, I believe, who had some pretty powerful magic. In order to be any kind of threat at all, he would need magic like that, anyway. Who's to say that magic couldn't include some sort of shape changing ability, similar to a changelings? Part of me wonders if we've not already met Grogar. . . .

Fyren Lokieiðr Or she could have meant "you ponies" in the same context I would use for "you people" That is, referring to the individuals of a specific group or category. That doesn't prove she isn't a pony in my opinion, but you are free to your own interpretation. I just wanted to share my own view on that.

Firewave That's what I'm saying.

shit child, that is all

I'm sticking to the theory that she's a child prodigy with a lust for power. Maybe her parents were convinced that Twilight and the others could teach her otherwise, so they sent her off to the school, but their plan ended up backfiring catastrophically.

No John Carpenter's Halloween theme

I have a feeling she wanted to be sent to Tirek. This just may be going according to Cozy Glows plan.

Losing sanity from dark deception

The Commenter Brony She's also the first villain to try and use the power of friendship for evil. She still failed to understand the true power of friendship, but she tried to use friendship as a weapon against Equestria the way Neighsay thought other creatures would. There's a lesson here about how being friendly and accepting of everybody can lead to you being deceived and taken advantage of.

William Harmon true. Though I can’t help deep down the fact that I want her redeemed. And the reason is kinda dumb but it’s the truth. It’s because she’s a child. It’s literally the one thing keeping me from taking her seriously as a threat. Especially considering that line where she’s says that once she’s in charge, she’ll have more friends than anyone. That makes me think that she hasn’t had friends before and doesn’t understand how this kind of stuff works

Brian Corona She says she will have more friends than anyone because she believes friendship is nothing more than a source of power. What she really means is that she will have more power than anyone. Besides, it would be impossible to redeem her because a psychopath (there is a difference between a psychopath and a sociopath) like Cozy is by definition incapable of feeling remorse or changing their antisocial behavior.

William Harmon I swear that what you just described was a sociopath. Either that or I’ve been using the word all wrong

Brian Corona Psychopaths are pretty much sociopaths, only worse. Sociopaths are typically made that way through things like childhood abuse and are still capable of forming some bonds with specific people and reducing their antisocial behavior to a degree. Psychopaths are simply born that way, are literally incapable of caring at all about others or the consequences of their actions, and are overall more dangerous.

"I met her 15 years ago; I was told there's nothing left; no reason, no words, no conscience, no understanding and even the most rudimentary sense of life or death, of good or evil, right or wrong. I met this six-year old foal with this blank, pale emotionless face and the reddest eyes-the devil's eyes. I spent eight years try to reach her and then another seven try to keep her locked up because I realized that what was living in behind that foal's eyes was simply and purely... evil"

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I'm confused with this comment thread??

That's kinda stretched. Cozy Glow would be a good Ruler. The empty world was where Twilight didn't interefere. She said that herself. Are you deaf? And it was season 5, not 6.

@@danielantony1882 Wait, what? You think Cozy Glow would be a GOOD ruler? Are we talking about the same pony?

@@miraculouseveraftersforeve91 Yes. Cozy Glow knows how to take care of her subjects. It's called *"Politics",* you know. If you think that i'm stretching things out then you're simply underestimating Cozy Glow's capabilities and what she did.

I think fallout is most likely Daybreaker than anyone else.

@@danielantony1882 She manipulated everyone and was really only looking out for herself, doesn't sound like a good leader to me. Also working with Tirek? Knowing what he's capable of doing and what he did? Sounds more like a master manipulator to me!

I also suspect that the Tree may have been playing Cozy Glow, though she didn't realize it... (Possibly putting her in position to possibly give Tirek a genuine friend...)

You predicted it! Congratulations!

Cozy* Also you can edit your comment so do that

It would be interesting if Cozy was Tirek's sister.

@@princesslightningstrike4592 How.... would... that.. even... work!?

that didnt answer any question

@@Somewhere_Bagel It did answered how Tirek got out without being stopped

Not just cool But also bone-chillingly disturbing This quote is inspired from the quote that Dr.Samuel Loomis said to described Michael Myers as pure evil in Halloween(1978) *Cue John Carpenter's Halloween theme*

Yup! Derpy will NOT allow any letter to go undelivered! ... Now, it might not always get delivered to the right address, but it WILL be delivered.

@@7Seraphem7 Just don't mention "Sweet Acorn Orchard" to her or Rarity

Phantom of Death this is a bit of a stretch considering that derpy hasn’t been shown to have any connection to any serious and strong magic. If that really was the case then would derpy be able to know ahead of time of every underworld or creature from other seasons? If this were also true this would be a great character development for derpy!!

Are we going to ignore that one mailpony that somehow managed to get into Discord's dimension to get him his invitation to the Gala? Equestrian mail delivery is serious business. I don't find it hard to believe they'd find a way into Tartarus.

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True. I think that she was just born with the complete inability to feel empathy for others or ever feel remorse for her actions. She was power hungry because she is an insane megalomaniac, end of story.

Yep, right now, Cozy Glow seems to just be a power-hungry, sociopathic (if not psychopathic) filly. But I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there's more to it than that, like it was for Starlight, who's didn't really want "equality" but friends, but was just just scared of losing them. If so, we'll find out in Season 9 when/if we get a backstory for Cozy. And that's if Cozy really IS a filly

I don’t believe in “good and evil” but some people are inherently bad. Most monsters are made as children; a select few are born.

haha heath ledger would be proud

Tell that to Shane Dawson

I have other alternative versions Cozy Glow's Plan Alternate version 1:I trapped Starlight & Mane 6 to prevent them ruining my plan *Tore off paper* I take over the school & became an Empress of Friendship *Tore off paper* I got busted by the Young 6 & they told all my actions to Twilight I got busted by the Young 6 & they told all my actions to Twilight-wait what Cozy Glow's Plan Alternate version 2:I prevent Twilight & her friends by trapping them in Tartarus *Tore off paper* I drained all magic over Equestria & became an Empress of Friendship *Tore off paper* I got busted by the Young 6 & they told all my actions to Twilight I got busted by the Young 6 & they told all my actions to Twilight-wait what

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Didn't know changelings made horse noises.

No no he changed to a horse and the made the noises lol

@@yourpetrock5150 Exactly :)

@@yourpetrock5150 So obvious. Didn't think of that.

SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM PONIES

The green gem has been confirmed by the show to be the original element of honesty

Huh. So technically, Pinkie WAS giving him a birthday cake

Autum Breeze I totally thought Pinkie was just purposely annoying Tirek, but that makes sense now thanks for pointing it out!

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Sixth now

Lol nice

@Arvie Tevin Damn, you beat me to it lol

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Guys remember he hasn't ,seen it yet don't spoil any memes lol

Daniel Cortez IKR!

Me too but why in equestria would it be called episode 0 wouldn't that cancel itself out ya know like saying it never happened

Don't forget rollercoaster of friendship. I've been waiting months for that!

@@kinnie--2347 it's a holiday special before the official premiere of season 9. Like what Hasbro did with Yakkity Sax.

@VeemonFan thx

I think something happened to make Cozy become the way she did too. I doubt they'll go TOO dark in a backstory for Cozy (this IS a show aimed for kids, not older viewers, but written so it can appeal well to older viewers too, with some things for us, and fans sometimes seem to forget that) But something like Cozy having a family that either gave her no attention or love and she simply just wants the attention she never got (not that much unlike Starlight, who really only wanted friends) or a family that puts power and control over all else and she picked it up from them, could work very well. Her manipulation skills could've either been something else she also picked up, or just a natural skill she has (her Cutie Mark strongly suggests it's a natural ability) As far as the more serious mental health issues, Cozy definitely looks to have some, and the show have gone there already with (at least) Fluttershy and Starlight, so they should be able to do it for Cozy as well. While it might've been toned down a bit from what usually triggers PTSD in real-life, Fluttershy is a character that seemed to suffer from PTSD in the earlier seasons, from being picked on by bullies so much as a filly, which made the poor thing become EXTREMELY shy with next to no confidence. In some ways, Starlight even seemed to have it too, with how terrified she was of losing friends again after she thought Sunburst left her behind, how far she went to keep it from happening again and become a villain, and even after Twilight took her under her wing at the start of Season 6, she still had a couple of panic attacks when she just faced the possibility of being rejected (even though some fans still can't understand now she felt the way she did, and laugh at what we know about her past, while others like myself can get it) And then there's the theory that Cozy's not even a filly, but something else.

Going by everything we've seen Twilight and the Mane 6 teach about friendship, it doesn't appear that it can really be Twilight's fault Cozy thought friendship was actual power or control, since even the parts about doing good deeds is simply a part of being a good friend, or for that matter a good person: friends help each other out if they see their friends having trouble with something. So that, or anything we've seen, shouldn't had gotten Cozy the idea that friendship is power, unless she already had that idea, (which a backstory on Cozy could help explain) and she then took the lessons as such.

@@Gokuvstheworld Well, I mean, it was firmly established that friendship is powerful, and they were teaching great things, but exactly how it was taught may have made a connection in Cozy's mind because of her upbringing, and the mindset she brought with her when she enrolled in the school. Still, being required to do good deeds is a bad homework assignment for more reasons than that.

oof. you just described my megalomania and childhood in a nutshell, chief

I think Cozy is a born psychopath, meaning she is literally incapable of caring about others or feeling any shred of remorse. She is a dangerous criminal without the ability to care about the damage she causes or see it as wrong in any way, and people like that cannot be reformed in any way.

when magic was disappearing from the ponies i had a seeking suspicion that in eqg world how magic is running wild in that world makes me think it was tied together somehow or another

IK. I think everyone in the student six is pretty endearing. And no, I'm not excluding Gallus or Smolder.

Not to mention Blank Check and DYWTBA_UNIVERSE.

@@dan78789 *Sees RarityDash* If he only could stop mentioning his ships every moment he sees them in one frame...

Daniel Pedersen I’m pretty confident Burning Axe watches Apple Geek. It seems most reactors watch other big reactors because they pick up the same mannerisms. Both BA and AG will reflexively say “hi derpy” or “hi Lyra” when they are in the background of scenes.

Me to

Low Battery k?

But... only Silverstream makes sense! All the other ones clearly should be different!..

@@Kayta-Linda I agree. Sandbar should undoubtedly have been Loyalty. Yona could have either been kindness or generosity (frankly, though, those could have gone to anyone). But Sandbar at the very least should have been loyalty... Not that he isn't kind, of course, but loyalty was his test in What Lies Beneath, and it's also kinda the central aspect of his character.

More likely it was just the tree getting them out of the prison to remove the artifacts. This doesn't confirm them as new elements. Tree is the hero in this finale, by the way.

@@titanhades4331 As it was in mid-season episode 13. Mane 6 never even noticed anything was off. The TREE took care of the fakes. Chrysalis had planned to take the elements and use them against Starlight+mane 6 -- but seeing how the TREE protected them she just left... maybe she gave up on revenge?

Here is the REAL bearers Smolder honesty Yona kindness Sliverstream laughter Gallas gereorsity Sandbar loyalty Ocelles magic

And I gotta say, you know you fucked up as a human when a fictional racist pony can make up for their misguided beliefs better than an irl human can.

Im so glad i sorted by new and found this 😭

Interesting. Since there's a chance the journals would've still been active, at least till the 3rd day was over, so in theory, if Twilight had that journal with her in Tartarus, she might've been able to ask Sunset for help, especially if she wasn't sure if Starlight by herself could handle it, and wanted Sunset to help too. Of course, Twilight had no reason to even take the journal with her, but still. Though, considering that the "realm" Cozy was talking about wasn't the human world, I do wonder if the magic in that world would, or WAS, be effected too.

It looks like Cozy Glow was Constipated...

You mean the Equestria Girls specials. The movies are over an hour long. Altogether, each special is under an hour

SpacialRend7 Children are capable of cruel and evil acts too, especially when they are genuine sociopaths like Cozy Glow.

It should have been Neighsay not Cozy.

@@lazlow8788 lol. That's dumb.

You underestimate Children.

SpacialRend7 Well, it's not like other cartoons didn't do that. Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, Ben 10, Teen Titans, Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy (I mean, the main girl is basically satan or his offspring, really), Gravity Falls and some more. When I was young I never thought to myself "Am I evil?" just "This guy/girl is a jerk". So I see your reasoning quite... unlogical. But that's just me.

Cozy set her vortex to drain magic right infront of the Tree of Harmony's roots. She was just asking for it to stop her. Also the tree knowing what's going on and actively helping to stop threats has happened many times before. Giving the Mane 6 the locked box which proved vital to defeat Tirek, destroying Starlight's time travel spell, straight up killing the Mean 6, not to mention all the map episodes. The tree has been a sentient deus ex machina for a couple seasons now, and it's only getting more sentient. Is it bad for plot development (Since the heroes having an unstoppable force at their side isn't good for making a villain a threat)? Maybe. Is it forced? No. Honestly, I feel like they're setting things up for the Tree of Harmony to get destroyed in the series (or a season) finale with how powerful it's getting.

@@paradoxicaloutcome1007 Well maybe... I just feel weird with the fact that such a great villan was "Stopped"(except not) by a tree, I understand that she made a mistake by putting it in the tree of harmony but(oh boy here comes a theory that I'm creating while writing a comment XD)what if she had to, what if tree was nesesary for her spell to work... let's go all out, and accept it as a fact(it's not over) that would mean that the tree has something to do with magic... well duh but what I mean is, if they needed the tree to *collect* magic it would mean that the tree not only(and maybe even not necessarily) has a magic on it's own but it has the power to collect magic from the universe, and now that I came up with this it really does make sense, what if Trees only power is to collect magic from the world (I'm positive that in Equestria *Everything* has some ammout of magic... it's kinda like energy in our world) and by using that magic it is able to perform all of these amazing feeds, you probably don't understand what I mean Because I tend to get chaotic with my comments but it would all make sense and it would be satisfying to me so I can accept that theory, so here's how I see it all playing out: Cozy didn't take all the magic in Equestria, just a small piece of it, she didn't even take half as much as Tirek who didn't take all of it too, She wanted to take a very specific parts of magic, these that could possibly interrupt her plan, she was able to control it thanks to this circle which is under the artefacts and knew how to do it thanks to Tirek, she also had to build it under the roots of the tree of harmony because it can collect magic from the universe so the spell itself wasn't really collecting magic, it forced the tree to collect it and leater was supposed to send it to another demention, and Because it required to be under the tree of harmony Cozy had to take the risk of loosing Because of it but she was prepared for that as well, she decided that it's better if she prepares a plan B in case if tree really would stop her, she planned to make them send her to Tartarus, by showing that if they don't she will come back with new friends, and thanks to that she was able to meet Tirek and we will find out the rest in the finale of season 9, drops the mic XD Also What do you mean, Destroying Starlight's time travel spell... am I forgetting something...

The tree controls the map which took the scroll and destroyed it.

@@titanhades4331 I rewatched the scene and it really did... I forgot about it... that's weird... I don't forget stuff like this XD

Which is what fueled my belief that the Tree let it happen to help Starlight. The Tree could easily have done that before it happened. But it instead let it play out. Sometimes it takes extreme measures to get through to someone and help them. That there never was any danger to begin with.

Thank you!!

@@mylittlebrony2130 for what? I think i'm missing the context lol

Maybe they did offer her help, but she refused it.

@@titanhades4331 so did starlight and discord at fir.....WAIT she's smarter then them... Ok I see your point.

Also just a little side note - I noticed that Twilight wasn't ready to give up and let her go. But everyone else cornered and captured her. I know it's just a cartoon but I like speculating.

I came to that conclusion based on the color they were glowing as well. To be honest, I think that Gallus does represent magic the best out of them all.

@@SparkleyStar02 And it also kinda helps that twilight did not understand what friendship was when she was little So I kinda I guess that makes sense for gallus to represent magic

@@yoshifan3077 I didn't even think about that. How interesting.

@@SparkleyStar02 Yup and not only that how yona Is the element of honesty given how close to Rockhoof she was and it makes sense for her

@@yoshifan3077 Yup!

Nope. She's too insane

no

I do. I wouldn't like the feel of having multiple adult villains reform (Luna, Discord, Starlight, Tempest, Stygian, and Sunset if we count her too) but not have a villain that's a little filly also do it, and it wouldn't fit this show if it doesn't happen anyway. Unless there's more to Cozy than it seems, and she's not actually a filly, then I wouldn't mind if she's reformed or not.

Same

Sombra's a pretty different (and very divisive) character in the comics compared to the animated series. I doubt they would follow the comic story line.

Comics are confirmed to be non-canon. Over half of them don't fit with how the show goes.

Show canon > comic canon Ideally there would be no conflicts, but otherwise 'go with the show'.

Basically the comics are canon until they aren’t. If it’s retconned by the show, then it’s just the way she goes.

We don't know that for sure

Don't say something until it's known for sure dude. They haven't confirmed that yet.

I'm not a dude and 2 I feel like its for real cause the leak was real about the Christmas special and stuff

@@DoraeArtDreams-Aspy My bad, but still they haven't confirmed it.

I heard they were trying for an even 10 seasons. We will have to wait and see.