Sorry guys. I saw BW yesterday afternoon and...."meh". It was okay I guess. I'm not sure what I was expecting but this wasn't the origin story I wanted. It honestly felt like a watered down version of 'Captain America: Winter Soldier'. The crashing airship/ helicarrier, the "I don't want to fight you" line didn't do it for me. And how the hell did that guy get all that stuff !? He just happened to have a Quinn jet lying around !? Nobody missed that jet? Nobody saw him flying it? I would have rather they used that guy from the Agents of SHIELD tv show. You know, the twins that watched over the saferooms. While it didn't bother me that Taskmaster was female, it DID bother me that Taskmaster and Secretary Ross were barely in the movie. Also, also, also I really like the RED GUARDIAN. I know he was just comic relief, but the few scenes he was in were great. Just my two ¢....

@Alex Thompson Really? Why didn't you like the end credit scene? And yes, the Taskmaster character was the weakest part of the movie. I expected this to be more of a 'spy' movie...

It would be tight to see the Widows vs. the Dora Milaje

@@devinaustin4539 My money would be on the Wakandans. Yes, the Widows are highly trained/ efficient killing machines, but the Dora Milaje are just as efficient. Plus, they were hand picked, willing and covered in vibranium equipment and weaponry. If they were to ever put on helmets, it would be game over. Just my 2 ¢....

@@sugadaddy7050 I can't disagree with you. I JUST WANT TO SEE IT 😂

“You’re such a mom.” Me: 😅

Just like Florence. I love that they made her character so funny. 😍

I like that they didn't just make her a Natasha-clone personality wise. She doesn't have the weight of guilt that Natasha has and is more of a snarky asshole.

Fr😂😂

@@whateverreally1347 also a good way to show the different ways they were both indoctrinated

These banters, occational outrageous stories and tangents are why I subbed to them.

Timespamp

@@gottagofastjr5931 8:55

I subbed to them for the after the reaction convos. Those blank looks and stares, plus they be so confused sometimes it be killing me🤣

​@@Jiad_Joyhave you heard Eric's water slide story? So funny. Literally not kidding i couldn't breathe for laughing

That’s good! I’m pretty sure that was one of their main points of this show as we do have a big future ahead of us. Post-credit confirmed.

They did that because so we can get to like her in future mcu projects

@@bandino8026 does not mean you undermine the role of Natasha, this might the last movie for her, you can have BW2 for yelena spotlight

Nah Red guardian did He was the only reason I kept watching this horrible film

@@bilalwardak1999 okay? Lol people get so mad. Red guardian was great but mostly comedic relief, yelena’s character was more complex and they set her up as the new black widow

We don't talk about his Hellboy movie.

@@alucard624 I completely forgot about that. I was referring to the Green Hornet movie with Seth Rogan.

@@aidanrutter257 wait he was in that? wtf i dont even remember lol

@@kingbadger3325 He was one of the villains, a crooked D.A. I think.

He even was in Suicide Squad for what was like a cameo

She's usually the best part of every movie she's in.

Apart from her accent ;) Not as bad as Ray Winston ;)

I love her and she’s an amazing actress

She’s gorgeous, and stood out from beginning to end. ❤️❤️❤️.

and thats the horrible part since the movie is called Black widow

David Harbour was also in a Bond movie (Quantum Of Solace)

Right?! Some AMAZING nods to James Bond!

Honestly its super unrealistic that Nat would watch a SPY movie off all things to unwind but ok.

@Author B.L. Alley it not realistic because noone who was abducted as a young child and put through horrendous trauma in a spy school would watch a fu*king spy movie for fun. Nat clearly struggles with her past and the opening credits did a beautiful job depicting just how dark and twisted her childhood was, so why would she ever voluntarily watch a fu*king spy movie? It like spidermen watching a movie about a young boy losing his uncle, it aint gonna happen.

@@alinac5512 Have you even seen that era of Bond? They're basically comedies.

that's so cool! I haven't seen that mentioned on tumblr at all!

that's amazing. 😭😭

Thank you for this ..that was one of my favorite scenes

Наташа: Natasha Елена: Yelena

It's a very sweet detail because if he was trying to be a spy in America during the Cold War he would have never gotten those tattoos, so he probably had them done after returning to the USSR; small hint much earlier that he actually cared about them and wasn't there 100% just for the mission.

I thought she looked identical to her, and then saw she played a young version of milla jovovich's character in resident evil. Didn't realise it was her real life daughter

And the girl who played young Yelena is the little girl from haunting of hill House.

I was wandering where I saw her...

It's kinda pointless saying she's Milla Jovovich's daughter when you don't even bother saying her name. Her name is Ever ANderson.

@@eatsmylifeYT well ty for finishing the sentence 😂

she almost overshadowed scarjo for me, she's the star of the show.

Shes basically the main protaginist here

Yelena was on point. Taskmaster was absolute shit.

Oh same! Every reactor says they loved her and some even said they liked her more than Nat in this movie.

@@CedricBassman I liked Taskmaster. Her twist was on theme and she reminds me of Ghost from Ant-Man, innocent girls who became anti-heros to survive.

I love her character 😂

This movie was awesome! Perfect combo of action, comedy and heart - and none of it felt forced to me or out of place… It’s not often I have an emotional reaction to a superhero film - but that scene where Yelena was upset explaining that her ‘family’ was real to her - choked me up - as did the credit sequence Loved this film!

lmao yeah, I love how she kept bringing the pose back up. And then the pay off when she did it herself was just *chef's kiss.

@@j3RicK24 I've been saying it since Iron Man 1 that shes a poser, to actually hear smo on screen say it so blunt LOL I love her already, she right there with Zemo in terms of adoration

I love that it's such a family thing in a family car, but with a large helicopter and assassins as daughters

yeah plus nat gets a lot of time to shine herself. I don't get people who are saying that she felt like a side character. She didn't, at all.

Is every widow a "black widow"? I thought Nat is the black widow, and others are just "widows". She is diff because she is the best. And probably yeleena Is BW now because nat is supposedly dead.

@@karankapoor608 I believe they are all black widows

@@karankapoor608 idk about supposedly lol. She looked pretty dead to me. Ya know, head split open n stuff

@@EnderMon umm you are right, but we are heading towards multiverse stories now. And we have seen varients of LOKI. God knows whats going on in the show as of now, but the existence of alternate timeline versions of characters is true now. So I'm just hoping to see Nat back. Atleast as some cameos or something.

Omg yes i,l need to rewatch that scene it will all make sense now

Of course they remember they talked in depth about it. Did you even watch this video?

I get the impression he really did fight A Captain America, perhaps Isaiah Bradley? It would make sense as TFATWS was meant to come out afterwards, so it would be a surprise to us when it’s revealed he really wasn’t lying 🤔

@@rizzohutchings4861 yeah, I feel like it wasn’t just a made up story. Only time will tell if they give us a little more to that

It’s not possible for him to fought Cap who went back in time. That’s not how it works

I’m certain it was Isaiah.

@@valathor95 Isaiah would have still been in prison in 1984

I certainly didn’t notice!!!

This movie was 2 hours??

IKR, i watched it on theaters and by the time the credits were rolling it literally felt like only one hour or so, for some reason, The Avengers and other marvel movies feel way much longer, though they are only 10 or 20 minutes longer.

There’s an interesting bit about this taskmaster that I’m not sure if others have picked up on… this was a technological “solution” and so could be repeated… there could be another Taskmaster created after this one.

The problem is that they genderswapped taskmaster, and if they made it female to male I think there would be a much larger outcry, y’know?

She’s incredible as hell, and beautiful too.

@@captainpep3 I love when fans manage to get mad about a hypothetical situation they made up in the first place

@@captainpep3 I don’t think that’s a problem if there are multiple taskmasters. They can be independent characters. A simple method to do this would be to establish the character BEFORE he gets the taskmaster business done to him. Go farther by having the two Taskmasters face each other in another MCU mirror fight but this time they can each mix and match different avenger fighting styles while trying to counter each other. Two different stories, hers is to atone or to define herself after her manipulation while his would be revenge or whatever really. Go wild on his motivations since the fundamental difference between the two would be she was forced to do it while he choose to be that way. There’s meat there. I was actually hoping for a fight in the movie that he Nat adopting different avenger styles, something different to try to counter Taskmaster in this one but… didn’t get it. But still, a mirror fight with mixing Avenger fighting styles sounds pretty great to me. You can make a movie out of that.

Yeah i think he will just adopt her after she tries to kill him (he already did that twice😂)

I think she’s going to be the white widow

I'm wondering if there's going to be a little reverse - Yelena is sent to kill Barton but makes a different call.

Yelena breaks into Clint's house, guns blazing and screaming bloody murder. Clint, sitting in his chair on a comfy robe: oh for fucks sake another one? Well retirement was getting a little boring, come on, let's avengerfy you.

@@mordirit8727 lol , just picturing this is so hilarious !

That was her! 🤯

Small correction on the injury line! Natasha: Is everyone OK? Melina: I am clearly injured.

I just love how nonchalantly she says, I am injured

Not his daughter. The new Hawkeye's name is Kate Bishop.

@@tehdipstick That's his daughter bro, you saw him training her in endgame right.

@@twopeople158 We saw him training his daughter in Endgame, but this is a new character. Just look it up. It's been confirmed that Hailey Steinfeld plays Kate Bishop, the younger Hawkeye.

credits also goes to the casting director of marvel, she has good eyes

Since she severed the nerve, Nat just couldn’t smell anything for Infinity War and Endgame 💀

YES lol!! Great Easter Egg-ish moment! David Harbour looks like he's having SO MUCH fun playing the character as well! It's enriching!

There’s no way that’s just coincidence lol rip Alexei

“I just got of prison and uh…I have a lot of energy.”

@@edward-ft3qm I mean Alexei is one of the 4 different names Russians have😂

His character is an excellent mix from the Red Guardian and Ivan Petrovich, Nat's stepfather in the comics.

Captain Marvel also can’t be watched in chronological order for first timers.

Didn't think of that til now. Thanks for pointing it out.

To be fair, it is just a post-credits scene, not part of the main film, so you could just stop after Natasha goes to the Auinjer and put on _Infinity War,_ and then put on the end credits scene later.

I think this movie addressed that at the end

@@isinganddootherthings4616 that wasn't a funeral

I mean... is there some cut of Endgame floating around out there that deleted the scene by the Avenger’s compound lake, where all of her FAMILY said goodbye and paid their respects?! Because not only do commenters seem to act like that never happened, but so did the writers of this movie, shoehorning in a Russian family when Nat and Steve both said in Endgame that the Avengers were her only family.

@@davidmcleod5133 Steve said that because she did, and he didn’t know she had an actual family. She probably said it because they were only “family” for 3 years, and she’d been with the Avengers longer. The directors have also said they added that scene specifically because she didn’t have one in Endgame. You can look up their commentary on it, it actually makes a lot of sense.

she sacrificed herself not even knowing for sure they would win, she did deserve better

they've done it in every movie since then. Endgame was full of them and Spider-Man as well. and the Disney+ shows

*Ding* "+1 Sin"

“Unless you've mistaken it for Colorado” Ding 1+ sin

@@oblivyen "points out 'mistake' even after its revealed to be not a mistake" +1 sin??????

@@lfnreviews ^ this is why I stopped watching lol

@@basketfreak023 same lmao

They both stole the show.

@@alucard624 I would’ve loved to see Captain America vs Red Guardian

They would be if Alexi and Milena weren’t irredeemable pieces of shit.

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Agreed. Alexi was too much of a prick for me to forgive him. He straight up admitted he didn't care about their time as a family and still pretends they are a family.

He was funny, but honestly he didn't really have a character arc.

I loved that editing it was hilarious

I love how they even made the _Terminator_ music quieter when the film wasn't onscreen, like it was really in the film.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the Terminator music.

They got permission I guess, or the ownership copyright thing is expired.

Man that whole sequence is Marvel Netflix level of dark.

The first 45 min or so were absolute perfection

Opening credits are the best part of the movie lmao.

The “family” scenes and sister sister dialogue constituted the heart of the film

Widows were enhanced with russian version of superserum. That was never said in MCU , but they were...of course, in the movies it could be diffrent since it was enver mentioned, but that makes more sense.

@@damesayo4656 that's just the comics but yeah

The bad guy was just such a cartoon, and we barely got to know him except for the end

@@funfunfun3624 I agree, I didn't care much for the big bad (or his daughter). However, that didn't matter to me all that much overall. I think partly because it's a prequel, and partly because MCU has always had a problem with non-Thanos villains, I wasn't expecting much of a bad guy anyway. But yeah, my issues with the third act was mostly about him.

Improvised by the actress too lol

It's the dumbest post credit, how the fuck Yelena did not know about Natasha's noble sacrifice and not because of Clint, cause it is pretty clear all people knows what happened during Infinity War and Endgame

@@renz5960 yeah well, they only know that all "HEROES"saved the world and Tony , natasha ans vision sacrificed themselves, ppl don't exactly know how they died, including Yelena

@@renz5960 I don’t think people know how exactly they died

@@MissCrown2204 Yeah well, the entire public and characters in recent MCU stuff do seem to act like they know a lot about how Avengers are and died considering they constantly reference a lot of details about them. I mean, even someone like Darcy knew who Pietro was despite being a very background character in Ultron who never even appeared officially as an Avenger. This scene just doesn't make sense. Even in this film Natasha constantly keeps talking about how Clint is to Yelena. One would think that any Avenger would have contacted Nat's family considering Yelena knows where the grave is so they must have talked at some point. So this is just a plothole to move things forward, it feels so forced to make Yelena a possible enemy of Clint.

@@renz5960 I don't think public around the world will understand about what happen in vormir and about quantum time travel thing. They just know that Tony and Natasha sacrifice their lives order to save the world. That's it.

Hahah

Couldn't agree more!

My personal theory is that it was actually Isaiah Bradley

Is that actually official?

@@nopeandnope5195 the Uncharted Movie? It’s literally in development right this second, screenshots and teasers have been posted about it , starring Tom Holland and Mark Wahlberg.

@@kraazexjoker1874 for fucking real? Damn I’ve been living under a rock

@@nopeandnope5195 you have! It’s been rolling for about 6 months now 😂

Also cool that Rachel Weisz is married to the latest James Bond, Daniel Craig

Yeah its also a suit everyone can wear it

@@g.t2231 but thats the thing. His character isn't just a suit. He has the ability to naturally mimmick perfectly whatever someone does, and not rely on technology. I would've preferred that than what I saw. Gender swap, not an issue, but the way they handled the character is what I didn't like

@@missaelespinozajr6529 True. But they could bring in a new Taskmaster like Anthony Masters by saying something like how an organization like SWORD (you know since they make sentient weapons) wanted to replicate the Black Widow Taskmaster without the intense cybernetics, so they create a new variant of the super soldier serum (you know since there are plenty of variants of it like Centipede and Gamma serum) that give the Taskmaster his photographic memory but not making the user a mindless drone like the prototype.

@@missaelespinozajr6529 I’m particularly disappointed with how they handled The Black Order. Since then, I’ve learnt not to expect anything when it comes to MCU “villains”. So the way they handled Taskmaster is not surprising to me at least. They could’ve done better but its decent portrayal I guess.

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Completely agree! They were SOOOO good! Looking forward to more Yelena!

Agreed, the Nirvana cover was beautiful

... whereas she just chilled in Norway. Well, except for that Taskmaster attack.

It was excellent! So different to every other Marvel movie, and that's a compliment.

My issue isn’t that it’s not a “Superhero” movie, that genre has began expanding to encompass all others very quickly. I have an issue with just a bunch of what this movie is. The main thing is portraying Alexi and Milena as good guys. They’re the worst. They don’t deserve redemption.

@@mr.stuffdoer8483 they were truly terrible parents. Especially Alexi 😒

@@easywhitechocolate They also just straight up put kids into slavery so they could be forced to become assassins. Yeah, really glad those people are the good guys of the story.

Also Paul W. S. Anderson daughter

@@danielfonseca4849 ...who directed Mortal Kombat. Full circle!

Now that you point it out I can see the resemblance!

I thought she looked like Mila.

I realized from the trailer

So worth the wait

Antonia dreykov

It annoyed the shit outta me. If they're supposed to be russian, why she's not Antonina? Antonia is greek name

@@vestox that's not what sucks about taskmaster but that too

@@vestox Maybe she’s not his actual daughter. Maybe he took one like a Boba Fett. I mean, she does become the ultimate prize for him. Also, I just realized that that scene comes off like when Stryker introduced Deathstrike to Logan in X2.

Absolutely agree! She did such a phenomenal job here! looking forward to more!

Me neither!! She was such a knockout!

I could see the resemblance. For like a second I was like, "she looks a lot like Alice from resident evil."

Yeah it occurred to me that he probably just fought an American super soldier and inferred that it's Captain America. He's been in jail for 20 years so probably doesn't realise they're two different people.

Oh yeah, now it makes sense to me

@@hawkins347 At the very least he would have understood one was white and 1 was black That's a huge distinction I assume this has something to do with Cap traveling back in time because Isaiah Bradley Would have been in jail in the 80s

@@drewwar9344 I mean maybe not...he was a pretty important person so he could have known there were multiple super soldiers but didn't know which was the original Captain America. Could have just decided he fought Captain America for selfish and nationalistic reasons.

Yup, the action sequences were too over the top and unrealistic. I hoped it's gonna be way more grounded than this. And also the CGI seemed a little bit clunky and weird at some times. Of course Taskmaster was handled terribly. Still, an enjoyable movie.

i agree, this is the one movie, where going away from the typical mcu-formula whould have done good. As it is, it's an average-mcu movie. It could have been more. The best parts, for me, were the family-drama and the "forced" comedy did not help them. More drama, less comedy. I hope this is not something that becomes the norm, but the plot would have done better as an 6-10 episode series.

I disagree. I felt like most of the humor was natural

@@tripled2505 it was awkward it felt out of place they keep forcing it at the 2nd half of the movie killing the incredible tone it set up on the first half of the movie.

@@tsucchieamano6660 I disagree. Maybe the earpiece joke but I can't think of any other jokes that rly ruined the tone

where did u here that we have a thunderbolts show ? this is not true.

@@mikea971 Kevin F and Marvel Studios confirmed the Thunderbolts are being assembled

@@gregmorrell3136 that’s false , your spreading misinformation.

@@mikea971 you should listen to His comments on the recent D23 inside Disney podcast episode 96, he literally confirms it. Catch up dude.

@@gregmorrell3136 where’s the podcast , cuz if he “ literally confirmed it “ then it would’ve been talked about already.

Thats exactly what I told my partner. Black Widow's first movie shouldve come out after The Avengers, the second one after Civil War and the third one after Infinity War. Its ridiculous that Captain Marvel and Ant-Man are gunna get trilogies over Black Widow especially when her character is much more interesting than them.

@@ARBLACKx I don't think the movie was bad or anything but I feel that with more background for the family and even the villains would have made it great.

@@emperorhakimiv7745 yeah I thought the movie was a fun watch. Nothing special but a solid MCU film. Just felt it came out way too late. Definitely wouldve worked better as a TV series could've gone really in depth into her back story

Agree

@@ARBLACKx there's nothing I hate more than prequels. What's going to scare me about a high pressure fight among a collapsing space station if I know the hero isn't in any danger. I know not to expect the main character to die or something but it makes the stakes feel non existent.

He also said mephisto 7000 times

same they showed him being baddass at the start of the film and his overwhelming strength when he breaks that guys wrist and when he propels himself higher to climb out of the prison but never gave him a great hand to hand fight where he gets to show off at all

LOL RIGHT?! So well done! XD

It is dumb because every people knows Stark and Natasha sacrificed during the war. As a spy it is impossible she did not know that.

Why would Zemo help them though ?

She's Non-Canon

@@Commander_Shepard. Not confirmed

@@dakotaolivos-pr3wx it is.

@@Commander_Shepard. when was it confirmed directly by kevin feige?