Blizzards Great Struggle Begins: Wrath’s Epic Launch & Mixed Reaction: The Original Lich King

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Bellular Warcraft

Bellular Warcraft

5 жыл бұрын

Wrath of the Lich King evolved a great deal over its life. While this expansion is fondly remembered by many, it is important to cover all aspects of it, including the strongly divided reaction to it's launch endgame design.
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@3Katapa
@3Katapa 5 жыл бұрын
God I miss Vendors. Nothing felt better than saving up for a piece and getting no loot in the mean time, then getting a good loot drop that gives you god gear and enough tokens to get another item. That felt like RNG fun times on top of grinding for a goal. Plus, if you need ONE SLOT you can just buy it.
@iambedlam
@iambedlam 5 жыл бұрын
this was one of the biggest blows to the game. literally nothing feels rewarding anymore.
@Manicca
@Manicca 5 жыл бұрын
And still people who do not seem to think further hate on Grinding - they do not realise that what we have now IS grinding... but without reward, only Luck. You can kill something 100 times and not get it. With Badges-grinding, you knew you'd get something at X moment. Now it's all just "May or May not be a carrot here"... it's... bad. Really bad.
@FuuuckOffff
@FuuuckOffff 5 жыл бұрын
Know what I don't miss? Random leggo drops I can't use
@salesmcsaleson9285
@salesmcsaleson9285 5 жыл бұрын
Blizzard is purposely pissing everyone off. They simply make more money on Overwatch, a game full of weebs, and charging almost $3 per pack on Hearthstone.. think about that... $3 per PACK of garbage cards on Hearthstone that become obsolete after awhile. They legit have went from making money to just simply caring only about making money. Goodbye Warcraft.
@DracosKasurani
@DracosKasurani 5 жыл бұрын
Well on a technical level it push you to do something for a reward which is good since you have goal. WQ is actually quite the opposite, it is free gear and make rep grinding way too fast. Main issue of these day: - Overgeared for most of the content which result to zero challenge overall result to old raid of the expansion to became useless except for that X trinket(each new content gear you way too much) - Profession is mostly useless, created gear have mostly no use because you generally gain better in dongeon while enchanting / alchemist is alway welcome because you can't get those anywhere else - LFR result to high reward no effort - PvP, still miss the epic battle from ateract/wintergrasp - Dongeon, let not talk about those the only challenge there is when you got those high key level
@RemnentsPasts
@RemnentsPasts 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear the crash of his footstep, with the crunch of the snow followed by "An Karanir Thanagor" I still get chills down my spine.
@nightxblaze8384
@nightxblaze8384 5 жыл бұрын
i have that theme on my music playlist... lol love it
@Loiss
@Loiss 5 жыл бұрын
@@nightxblaze8384 what is it called?
@MrSchmitz13
@MrSchmitz13 5 жыл бұрын
@@Loiss "arthas, my son"
@gavinbarker1295
@gavinbarker1295 5 жыл бұрын
I got chills thinking about it lol. My main fix is the soundtrack to Grizzly Hills
@nightxblaze8384
@nightxblaze8384 5 жыл бұрын
@@Loiss Arthas, My Son. or you can always put wrath of the Lich King theme
@malohn2068
@malohn2068 5 жыл бұрын
I say it then and I say it now. "TELL THEM ONLY THAT THE LICH KING IS DEAD. AND THAT WORLD OF WARCRAFT, DIED WITH HIM"
@Tsuna_SoulSilver
@Tsuna_SoulSilver 5 жыл бұрын
The expansion where I started raiding with my friends... How I miss those days where your only worry is to make it to the raid on time.
@SOLIDGOLDTEETH
@SOLIDGOLDTEETH 5 жыл бұрын
100% same
@Tsuna_SoulSilver
@Tsuna_SoulSilver 5 жыл бұрын
@ sorry don't have time for MMO anymore.
@ryanestrasz2477
@ryanestrasz2477 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like another lifetime at this point.
@Purriah
@Purriah 5 жыл бұрын
Same. In BC I just did pvp, but in wrath I got to 2200 really fast because DKs were op so I decided to raid, and I’m so glad I did. Doing ulduar when it was current was so fun.
@mvhlie
@mvhlie 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, i miss those days.. :(
@Dubbaehni
@Dubbaehni 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my .. that arthas + music at the start almost brought tears to my eyes... Because its so sad. That was the best time i had in wow, no doubt. Now wow is but a shadow from that era
@Adrian-bv8wr
@Adrian-bv8wr 5 жыл бұрын
It still holds up extremely well. Raiding icc and ulduar again has been fantastic.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 5 жыл бұрын
Dubbaehni This score gets everyone right in the feelings. It's incredible well made.
@mickydeez124
@mickydeez124 5 жыл бұрын
I just don't think blizzard realizes what made wow so good, was the buildup of warcraft 3. They'll never hit that same depth with a game that is played as an mmo versus a game where you could experience the stories of many different characters that eventually show up in an mmo. Arthas was really just the end of WC3 lore and the game got a lot worse after that fact.
@Christian_Bagger
@Christian_Bagger 5 жыл бұрын
Dubbaehni yea ... I stopped in Cata because I felt it was utterly garbage. With today’s standard many of the remaining players say Cata is the best expansion. That just shows how much they have fallen from grace...
@buttsmcgee50
@buttsmcgee50 5 жыл бұрын
Legions story is much better than WOTLK
@gingy9788
@gingy9788 5 жыл бұрын
Listing to the Wotlk soundtrack makes you wanna cry cause wow isn’t the same game anymore
@bgslam8173
@bgslam8173 5 жыл бұрын
So true! Ugh monetization is now trumping the creativity that we once loved!
@zapspiders92
@zapspiders92 5 жыл бұрын
No expansion rules forever. ='(
@has855
@has855 5 жыл бұрын
I have the soundtrack in my playlist sometimes you just sit down chilling while listening to it and the nostalgia hits you .. ah man .. blizzard please !
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 5 жыл бұрын
I have legit cried about this. I know, ridiculous.
@JennyDarukat
@JennyDarukat 5 жыл бұрын
For real, it's a wild ride man..
@dalorasinum386
@dalorasinum386 5 жыл бұрын
The DK starter zone to this day is still my favourite quest chain in wow. It was just so great especially the end with the dragon ride and the battle for lights hope.
@wadewilson5712
@wadewilson5712 5 жыл бұрын
i like the whole wrath gate quest chain myself but the dk one was great too
@LihoShammy
@LihoShammy 5 жыл бұрын
Wrath of the Lich King was definitely the high point of WoW. It's been over a decade and I still sometimes hop on the latest private servers. Imagine how great WoW could've been today if only they had stuck to the same story and design philosophies.
@Christian_Bagger
@Christian_Bagger 5 жыл бұрын
LihoShammy yea ... there is a reason why they lost half of their subscribers ... and the market is still there.. but it is so evidently that they have lost touch
@trollbru5377
@trollbru5377 5 жыл бұрын
YOU CAN STILL PLAY IN NORTHREND!!! THEY DID NOT REMOVE THE CONTENT!!!!!
@LihoShammy
@LihoShammy 5 жыл бұрын
@@trollbru5377 The content is still there, but the gameplay has changed so radically that it doesn't resemble Wrath anymore. Modern WoW gameplay boils down to mindlessly mashing buttons without having any real rotations. Power creep is so bad that the content doesn't provide a sliver of challenge anymore. Gold inflation is so bad that the Traveller's Tundra Mammoth can be bought at level 40. And good luck trying to find enough people to raid or even do Wintergrasp with!
@vanyadolly
@vanyadolly 5 жыл бұрын
You can clearly see on the graph how subs stagnated during wrath. I'm not disagreeing, but it clearly had its issues.
@LihoShammy
@LihoShammy 5 жыл бұрын
@@vanyadolly Subs stagnated, but they never dropped. And while Wrath may have its issues, it definitely allows for the most variety in terms of gameplay, rather than restricting its playerbase to only a handful of viable specs or even classes like Vanilla and TBC do, and it by far outshines both in regards to storytelling and questing.
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 5 жыл бұрын
DID YOU REUPLOAD TO FIX AUDIO?! MY MAN I WISH BLIZZARD WOULD REUPLOAD BFA TO FIX EVERYTHINGGGGG
@zirnoisematei
@zirnoisematei 5 жыл бұрын
This.
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, it's just 2 clicks n stuff, doesn't take that long to fix the game!!!!
@Bl0odyH3art
@Bl0odyH3art 5 жыл бұрын
Adam why play if you don’t want to?
@Adam-vp4oe
@Adam-vp4oe 5 жыл бұрын
carolina I don’t play BFA. I play WotLK on a private server and I try BFA every patch. I didn’t like Cata or BFA. I think MoP was pretty good and played a lot, I liked Legion and played a lot. WoD was decent at best (mostly because it was fun to go do Draenor stuff and the art was amazing). I think Cata and BFA were the worst two video games I had ever played due to game mechanics that simply are not fun.
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
@@Adam-vp4oe Care to give examples for what isn't fun right now?
@JermaineMorgan
@JermaineMorgan 5 жыл бұрын
Good times. When people used to just complain about DKs
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
And welfare epics. And One-shot PvP. And Lag Wintergrasp. And Gearscore.
@JermaineMorgan
@JermaineMorgan 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nightstalker314 I dont remember the wintergrasp lag But Gearscore...god that was terrible.
@ZrodyApo
@ZrodyApo 5 жыл бұрын
Heroweaks Freeloot Casuals
@lordtaku
@lordtaku 5 жыл бұрын
And twinks on PVP
@2ndNidaime
@2ndNidaime 5 жыл бұрын
But the story tho.
@soulses4549
@soulses4549 5 жыл бұрын
Man was lich king my favorite, I started in bc as a kid and once we reached max my brother's guild member bought us the lich king expansion. I have so many memories playing that expansion with my terrible computer at the time.
@32987
@32987 5 жыл бұрын
I've been playing wrath on warmane. Oh the nostalgia! I miss the scourge plague event that was the besttt
@kreiyu
@kreiyu 5 жыл бұрын
Infecting people was great. Running into a crowded ah and exploding disease on other players.
@quchi7232
@quchi7232 5 жыл бұрын
what I hate about Warmane is some stupid bug quest.
@stephenk.978
@stephenk.978 5 жыл бұрын
I was considering playing on that server until I heard a few people say its fun until you get wrecked in pvp by someone who bought their legendaries. How true is this?
@richcotherman4820
@richcotherman4820 5 жыл бұрын
@@stephenk.978 legendary's are not cheap at all. I don't think many people are actually buying them. I enjoy it personally.
@stephenk.978
@stephenk.978 5 жыл бұрын
@@richcotherman4820 Good to know! thank you!
@BussGG
@BussGG 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I really enjoy these in-depth look back videos discussing previous expansions. Look forward to the next in the series!
@iLiekUndead
@iLiekUndead 5 жыл бұрын
You can't talk about phasing in a solely positive light. That feature alone was the beginning of the end of the MMO part of WoW and brought it closer to the theme park that it is today. It started breaking the playerbase into... shards of players at a different point in time. It started making the quest content more necessary and unnecessarily streamlined the entire experience. When you could once stop with a quest chain at any point in time, you were now essentially closing yourself off from other players if you decided to not finish and on the other hand, you were closing yourself off from players who haven't completed the quest if you finished it. It broke the community and because of phasing and some other "quality of life" changes like dungeon finder, etc. the MMO aspect of wow became so trivial they later went ahead and introduced sharding. Which, as we're well aware, fully turned wow into a theme park where the multiplayer experience more resembles that of a modern lobby-based shooter than an MMO. It killed the community aspect of the server and the game. A side of the game that was a lot more prevalent in the older versions and for a lot of people one of the main reasons they played the game. People like to remember Wrath as an amazing expansion because of Arthas and some great zones and raids but really, it was the beginning of the end.
@jwinsatt
@jwinsatt 5 жыл бұрын
"The accomplishment of specific goals was really paramount." Glad you're emphasizing that. It's one of wow's biggest problems now lol. I think Asmongold says the same thing. I miss my cross referenced spreadsheets of all the available gear in the Wrath beta era. Going after and achieving those goals in that xpac was second to none in my long and varied Wow time. Then getting some of the only-dreamed-of lucky drops from Naxx that were also on the sheets soon after brought out a true state of MMO Nirvana lol. Gear really has to have personality and be specific to matter. Right now they've gotten lazy and completely forgotten that. In an RPG we're meant to know, seek, and treasure our gear, not require supercomputer cycles to sort the nameless stat rows. I'll always remember the turning tide, betrayer of humanity, the red sword of courage, and countless others with their own special uses, stories, and personalities. There's some of that in following xpacs, but it gets less and less over time with 3 or 4 different versions of each, and more recently warforged and titanforged versions... it's like taking an important character in a game with one name, and making 20 different versions of that character with the same quests and slightly different rewards, with the same story, but you can do all their quests. It's just lazy and boring and really kinda RPG sacrilege. I miss the hand-crafted feel vs the procedural feel for gear. Idk about procedural, but I hate that there's a drop for every slot in every dungeon for every class virtually lol. Too many bits of nameless gear, not enough meaningful gear.
@Christian_Bagger
@Christian_Bagger 5 жыл бұрын
Sinderion so what you’re saying is, that having epic welfare is not fun ... damn ...
@crazzluz1702
@crazzluz1702 5 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Personal Loot especially is killing this game for top end raiders. I wish I could still curate a BiS list and actually target those pieces instead of just getting random shit with stats I don't want. I loved using askmrrobot or other various sites as well as a spreadsheet of drop locations to go seek out the pieces I actually wanted instead of relying on Blizzard's dice roll to see if I got my BiS Crit/Haste pants TFed to 395 or 385 Mastery/Versatility pants instead. I liked having to make sure that I kept my Hit and Expertise caps while also getting as much of my most important stats as possible. I liked regemming from Strength/Crit gems to Strength/Hit gems because I got a new piece that was so much better than what I had.
@fbauzo024fb
@fbauzo024fb 5 жыл бұрын
I left the Shyvanas mission of the siege on undercity intentionally to leave my Undercity under attack for almost 6 months. It was awesome that my undercity was different from everyone elses.
@markmajoros9814
@markmajoros9814 5 жыл бұрын
I am beyond satisfied by your point of view and ability to cover the story from every aspect. Please continue doing so splendid work!
@Mugetsu1212
@Mugetsu1212 5 жыл бұрын
Wrath was the last expansion from the real Blizzard. We can't expect anything near that from activision blizzard. Ever again.
@LeeTamayobnn3s
@LeeTamayobnn3s 5 жыл бұрын
@Hasanuddin Abu Bakar activision, EA, square enix/square soft, treyarch, are giants that corrupt evry publisher they get there hands on.
@thecreator9636
@thecreator9636 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Tamayo Don’t you mean every developer?
@LeeTamayobnn3s
@LeeTamayobnn3s 5 жыл бұрын
@@thecreator9636 your right lol. thanks for the update. ^_^
@NOKIA-vq2dx
@NOKIA-vq2dx 5 жыл бұрын
@@LeeTamayobnn3s square enix killed legacy of kain series and made ffs Ea we know them and so activision and yeah dont forget ubisoft..and r* are on their way
@borek92
@borek92 5 жыл бұрын
To me MoP was the last "real blizzard" expansion. Dear god, the heart, soul, sheer love and effort in that expansion were greater than in any other.
@alternate3787
@alternate3787 5 жыл бұрын
I liek how you said "we knew from Warcraft 3". Truth be told, most people got into World of Warcraft because the played Warcraft 3. Having a hero, choosing a class, having the races with their specific zones and capitals was a BLAST to explore after you had it all just hinted in a RTS. People who got into WoW after WotlK and/or without having played Warcraft 3 might have fun playing the game. But understanding the hype of the late 2000's is something completly different
@kungunrules
@kungunrules 5 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant. The memories you brought back to me! Great video!
@caffeinefuelled9186
@caffeinefuelled9186 5 жыл бұрын
Ah wrath when you could make friends, guilds were communities like a huge family and your server was like an extension of it.. I could of played all day and half way through the night and still wanted to play more if not for damn school. Such an addictive game back then such a huge contrast to the shit show of BFA. Literally makes me sad, wow has lost its spark and blizzard has been devoured by Activation.
@UXSpecialist
@UXSpecialist 3 жыл бұрын
@@xRedNationx World of Warcrafts numbers are so far down from the height of Wrath of the Lich King, it's overly obvious that they have done something horribly, horribly wrong from where they started from. The game no longer holds that magic that the people crave......
@UXSpecialist
@UXSpecialist 3 жыл бұрын
@@xRedNationx IF they had kept to their original formula, the numbers would be Even larger today than they were before, not dramatically, pitifully, dismally small like they are now........
@afishynado6812
@afishynado6812 5 жыл бұрын
Saying that iLVL wasn't as important in Wrath as it is today... uh... Wrath was the start of the gearscore nazis. ilvl = skill amirite?
@RageShroud
@RageShroud 5 жыл бұрын
No because back in Wrath it was about gear score which gear score wasn't based on ilvl. You couldn't take two pieces of gear of the same class with different stats and have the same gear score. The gear score add-on also calculated the stats based on your spec to get your gear score.
@liberator48
@liberator48 5 жыл бұрын
My ePeen lvl is higher than urs, nub.
@afishynado6812
@afishynado6812 5 жыл бұрын
You can spin that BS however you like, but it's the same thing/mindset.
@wilhelmschmidt3715
@wilhelmschmidt3715 5 жыл бұрын
@@RageShroud urm... gearscore was exactly that. It accumulated the ilvl and the end score was your gear score. (277 gear and 500 weapons). You could say it was more "precise" than pure ilvl. ilvl now is the "average" itemlevel you are wearing.
@RageShroud
@RageShroud 5 жыл бұрын
@@wilhelmschmidt3715 gear score used sims like Mr.Robot so it could messure quality based on class and spec.
@AndersonCRReis
@AndersonCRReis 5 жыл бұрын
I can't express the emotion i felt playing that expansion after finishing Warcraft III so many times. It was amazing to see the Ascension of The Lich King step by step. For me, one of the Greatest Villains Of All Time. The PvP was incredible too. The fear to face someone wielding a Shadowmourne was real xD!
@trollbru5377
@trollbru5377 5 жыл бұрын
You know what is WEIRD? Donald Trump in his 20's had Arthas's hair.....not kidding. Not surprisingly Trump is well on his way to being considered the WORST President of all time, passing even George W Bush and Obama!
@michelero4297
@michelero4297 5 жыл бұрын
Sound much better!!! There's the quality we have come to know and somewhat expect! Thank you.
@skylark159
@skylark159 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video series. Thank you so much for your dedication! :)
@LostChildOfTime
@LostChildOfTime 5 жыл бұрын
This video really brought me back more than I expected it to. ty, Bellular.
@faisalmian8567
@faisalmian8567 5 жыл бұрын
You have earned a subscribe from me. This is one of the most well made/enjoyable videos to watch in a very long time. Very nicely done, and I will definitely be back next week. Thank you for this!
@ctg4818
@ctg4818 5 жыл бұрын
Must link achievement to like this video!
@evers_mhvn4264
@evers_mhvn4264 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to say I feel so privileged to of been about for tbc / wotlk. Arriving at howling fjord still gives me chills to this day. Especially as a big reign of chaos player. Great vid dude 👍🏻
@cobaltmalt
@cobaltmalt 5 жыл бұрын
I loved dual wielding frost tanking and trying to cap expertise so I didn't cause the boss to parry and insta kill me.
@nateshrager512
@nateshrager512 5 жыл бұрын
Acclimation! Loved that talent
@kaidrian
@kaidrian 5 жыл бұрын
when they changed the frost tank build early on (i think we were only a few weeks into the xpac) that was the last time i ever played a dk
@Wyrmvonsturm
@Wyrmvonsturm 5 жыл бұрын
The memories! God I was so pissed when they took away frost tanking.
@nickfarace9339
@nickfarace9339 5 жыл бұрын
The best part of early DK was the fight of Dual Wield vs 2H during beta. All the theorycrafters thought it was ridiculous to think a DW spec could ever beat out 2h in the game. People said the Unholy / Frost hybrid spec could never work. Then release came and DW DKs could walk into Naxx in greens and be top 3 on the charts. I remember just doing absurd dps in leveling dungeons. Like double anyone else. It was so broken, and mostly it was because no one believed it was strong in beta. Also likely was THE build that lead to needing to remove talent trees as we knew them. The shit that started popping up with multi tree specs after just broke so much of the classes.
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay 5 жыл бұрын
They removed parry haste on auto attacks with WotLK.
@thedarkside7508
@thedarkside7508 5 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable video, I'm looking forward to next week!
@alejandroibarra40
@alejandroibarra40 5 жыл бұрын
The best and most engaging video I’ve ever seen in 10 years of wotlk....awesome pal!!
@shanemergy7935
@shanemergy7935 5 жыл бұрын
amazing video dude i love it, i really wish some things were learned from wraith and came over to bfa
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
And that would be besides batch vendors?
@Tiferod
@Tiferod 5 жыл бұрын
Nightstalker314 Slow pace, fewer and more meningful rewards.
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tiferod Wrath was the epitome of welfare epics and rushing 5mans as well as many raids like Naxx and ToC while disregarding the rest until it was outgeared.
@Tiferod
@Tiferod 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nightstalker314 Compared to today ? I don't think you played BfA ;)
@Nightstalker314
@Nightstalker314 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tiferod I've been active since Vanilla day one and when it comes to being showered in gear Wrath was and still is the prime example.
@kidistight
@kidistight 5 жыл бұрын
Man the memories of Wrath, I remember farming a dungeon daily with my guild for the plate pants. Confirming ahead of time none of guild would need on the loot. Who was head of game design back then? Can they come back and fix this shit show.
@illegalprogram
@illegalprogram 5 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head, teared up some to the way you described things. Played since the end of vanilla and wrath was one of the greatest times I ever had.
@JayWilFo
@JayWilFo 5 жыл бұрын
Loving this series mate. Thanks heaps 👍
@lucantini
@lucantini 5 жыл бұрын
This series if fucking amazing! You should really do these documentaries for the other expansions!
@jadayaindigo7696
@jadayaindigo7696 5 жыл бұрын
I havent done a daily heroic in BFA since Uldir came out. If there was a daily reward of something as little as 5 titan residuum i would be back in there. And if there was a constitutive reward of just 1 each after people would be spamming them. I did Wrath random heroics throughout the entire expansion.
@UghieYucky
@UghieYucky 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite expansion ever. The Scourge antagonist, Arthas, the mystery of the Old Gods and the Titans, all the Zones, Death Knights, quests, music, ambience... everything was just perfect.
@Coldespada
@Coldespada 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!Can't wait next video :)
@thelurkerbel0w
@thelurkerbel0w 5 жыл бұрын
Called borean tundra "boring tundra" even back in the day
@christianwolf68
@christianwolf68 5 жыл бұрын
Blizzards mistake was letting Activision get the horrible game destroying hands anywhere near thing would Blizzard created
@rickeyryan303
@rickeyryan303 5 жыл бұрын
omg it has nothing to do with activison..
@christophermiller5433
@christophermiller5433 5 жыл бұрын
Rickey Ryan absolutely right. Sure, Activision has destroyed certain titles, just like EA has. However, Activision and Blizzard have always been top notch AAA game producers, and even with the ‘merger’ Blizzard has undoubtably dominated production, writing, and editing with WoW. What really hurt WoW now is the lack of buildup of villains. Arthas, Illidan, the Old Gods, all had constant buildup. So far, Blizz has to develop newer antagonists, and it’s hard to do when you don’t have 10 years prior to build it up. If WoW continued with its villianry with Sylvanis, introducing newer villains and continuously build them up, when the next xpac is around them it will be fulfilling. Activision has nothing to do with this, all faults go to Blizz. However, it’s worth mentioning that games have to develop with the times to stay relevant, and Blizz has been able to take a game if released today would have atrocious graphic and mechanic reviews, yet still has 3m+ subscribers, if not more. In my opinion, I’m more receptive and respect a bit more of a company doesn’t rest on their laurels and still adapts, which Blizz does kind of do as they update throughout an xpac. By the end, it’s usually a solid/good/great xpac.
@kubi0461
@kubi0461 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Blizzard never had much of a choice. Blizzard was part of Vivendi Games, owned by Vivendi. It's Vivendi Games and Activision that merged to form ActivisionBlizzard. That was in 2008 and Vivendi was still the parent company until 2013, when ActivisionBlizzard bought enough shares from Vivendi to become independent as now the majority of shares were owned by the public.
@christianwolf68
@christianwolf68 5 жыл бұрын
@Andrei V one of the better example of this is taking the tabards that were sought after buy many to assist with rep grinding and made them nothing more that an in game transmogrify item that means nothing and has absolutely no value
@christianwolf68
@christianwolf68 5 жыл бұрын
@@rickeyryan303 right cause at this point in the current expansion releasing a buy on store "just give us your money" mount instead of actually having more in depth quest lines and story like there was in WotLK and previous . better story ,more quest depth and rewards that actually have a purpose . how hard is that for activision to understand . simple they cant . Blizzard has long forgotten that it is the player base that makes this game . ask your self why is it such a great thing that the game has become is subscription numbers drop every quarter and year since WotLK
@Mal3ficarum
@Mal3ficarum 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as that music starts at the beginning....fucking goosebumps....
@elmeric7086
@elmeric7086 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome part2. Can't wait for part3 :)
@mrjoehimself
@mrjoehimself 5 жыл бұрын
WoW used to be “work” and players craved that whether they knew it or not. Only the hardest workers got the best stuff to be the most proud of. They have replaced “work” with “greed” and its going to be difficult to overcome that. Also I think during Wrath was the biggest push in advertising I’ve ever seen for any Blizz game. Who can forget Mr. T playing his character! But TV has changed, people aren’t watching cable anymore.
@Jamie-ux8sk
@Jamie-ux8sk 5 жыл бұрын
That music at the start gives me shivers, so nostalgic.
@beeels
@beeels 5 жыл бұрын
This was nice video, thanks!
@gbxmusicchannel3836
@gbxmusicchannel3836 5 жыл бұрын
I remember everything! The sounds in borean thundra omg :D 1-2 zoones took as long as a whole expansions lvling is today.
@gabrielbailey8019
@gabrielbailey8019 5 жыл бұрын
There was no feeling like having all three gems socketed in your chest and pants. Picking what gems you wanted to stack was so much fun (like tanks stacking straight Stam gems). Wrath will always be the best expansion
@sejannus877
@sejannus877 5 жыл бұрын
This may be the best video I’ve ever watched on youtube
@cameronstewart6636
@cameronstewart6636 5 жыл бұрын
Expansions I've played in: Vanilla(to lvl 26-ish), WotLK, MoP, WoD, BFA. I think I was there for Cata's end, right before MoP. I've covered all the expansions to some extent. In my opinion, Litch King was the best expansion overall but I do think dungeon finder was the beginning of the end of loving the game for me. No longer could you get or receive help with your group, if you didn't know the dungeon, you were kicked, made a mistake? Kicked. Went afk? Kicked. It was all about the time it took and it better be short. It's possible to find a nice group still, but before Insta-dungeon, it was the rule, not the exception. It set the stage for liking the WoD garrison where I use it as a vehicle to avoid other players as much as possible to this day.
@skrappost482
@skrappost482 5 жыл бұрын
Going on the boat to Howling Fjord, approaching the coast, entering the narrow passage and seeing it open up, revealing Valgarde and Utgard Keep, with the fiddle music playing.. The coolest moment in my WoW life. I always pitied the poor suckers who chose to start in Borean Tundra.
@ropete33
@ropete33 5 жыл бұрын
Really liked what they did with Wintergrasp even as a primarily PVE player. I would do the battleground just to do the raid if your faction won everyone would be forming the groups for the 10 and 25 man and it was an easy shot at some raid gear every week. As far as zones, Icecrown was my favorite you really felt like you were on the Lich King's doorstep and shit was getting real. And I remember how OP DKs were doing 5 DK Hellfire Ramparts runs no healer needed lol.
@conanmcclanahan1069
@conanmcclanahan1069 5 жыл бұрын
Great job with this. Paying a true homage to the original dev teams and all of the immense effort and work they put into their culminating effort The Wrath of the Lich King (over 10 years in the making). It's too bad something has found it's way into the water over at Blizzard, and they have completely forgotten the roots from which their dream grew.
@truthseeker3084
@truthseeker3084 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Bellular. If only i could double vote the like button as this video deserves.
@medicdroidz
@medicdroidz 5 жыл бұрын
Love ya dude, Keep it coming!!!!
@dansharpe2364
@dansharpe2364 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you.
@darthelmet1
@darthelmet1 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, this brings back all the nostalgias. For me, I started playing sometime a bit before 3.3. While the legacy of LFD was kind of questionable, I don't think I would have even ended up playing without it. I kept trying to level and got bored and would restart to try a new character over and over. At some point, around the same time I tried out paladin, LFD came out. I ended up using it to level almost entirely through dungeons up until Northrend. It was really fun and introduced me to what the game was really about long before I would have otherwise gotten bored. I don't remember why, but I'm glad I took the chance to go level in Northrend when I got to that level. I started in the Howling Fjord and just wow what a beautiful zone. The music and scenery really did work perfectly together.
@inachu
@inachu 5 жыл бұрын
Zul Drak really got me with that friggin giant walking up and down the path. Wish that Giant had a story line for himself.
@gsc8383
@gsc8383 5 жыл бұрын
Wrath launch day is by far my favorite day in wow and by far the best memory for me in the game time this day.. everyone waiting in SW for that boat. I wish I had those screenshots of that boat with everyone on it.
@Fantic1980
@Fantic1980 5 жыл бұрын
We went from fighting the Burning Legion over several expansions, Gul'dan, Archimond, kil'jaeden, Varimathras, Aggrammar ... Sargares!!! The return of Illidan ... there was a MAJOR build-up ... then ... Now we kill pirates....
@childrenofthesun471
@childrenofthesun471 5 жыл бұрын
More like facing you enemy faction and we gona fight nagas and old god
@childrenofthesun471
@childrenofthesun471 5 жыл бұрын
@Battlebeast not my problem if you have lag lmao
@childrenofthesun471
@childrenofthesun471 5 жыл бұрын
@Johto well thats when BFA comes in
@childrenofthesun471
@childrenofthesun471 5 жыл бұрын
@Battlebeast its not that i dont Feel like i dont lag, it's just that I don't lag:)
@joelswatten9611
@joelswatten9611 5 жыл бұрын
Legion didnt make sense, the burning legion has returned to destroy azeroth, except we only fight them on the broken isles 😩
@Donovarcotfw
@Donovarcotfw 5 жыл бұрын
Man this kicked right in the nostalgia
@karrde593
@karrde593 5 жыл бұрын
I havent played wow in... over 5 years now.. but damn you just brought back all the good memories of how completely AMAZING wrath was.. not talking in terms of endgame im a filthy casual.. but in terms of the atmosphere and just general fun of the world content.. thankyou. i loved it. EDIT: you forgot to mention dalaran.
@debiw8599
@debiw8599 2 жыл бұрын
"All Death Knight dungeon groups." Yep! Honestly, that was the most fun I ever had in dungeons. Right after Wrath launched, I made my dwarf DK, took him to Outland, got into a group, and ended up in Hellfire Ramparts with 4 other DK's. I'm pretty sure I was the only Unholy DK and the other 4 were Blood. We smashed our way through that dungeon without a hitch and kept going from dungeon to dungeon for HOURS. It was great.
@bradmills713
@bradmills713 5 жыл бұрын
I've always said stories all come down to the villain. Better the villain better the feel. Something DC movies need to learn.
@Davivd2
@Davivd2 5 жыл бұрын
Item levels.....nobody even talked about it during Wrath. It didn't even matter. What mattered to my guild when we evaluated applicants, was if they enchanted and gemmed all of their gear. If they were defense or hit capped. If a player put the effort into their character and it showed, they would get a raid spot.
@kreiyu
@kreiyu 5 жыл бұрын
Wotlk was the golden age of pugging. I could finish several raids on a good day.
@Cipher8721
@Cipher8721 5 жыл бұрын
oooooo i can't wait till next week! love this series.
@BeastlyJay22
@BeastlyJay22 5 жыл бұрын
didnt Heroic Dungeons drop all 200 but the last boss had the chance for an epic that generally had better stats? could be wrong I was 12 then xD
@nunoalmeida9059
@nunoalmeida9059 5 жыл бұрын
I literally started crying when i heard the theme song at the start... Feeling soo sad to miss those times...
5 жыл бұрын
I really like this serie about history of WOW, since I didn't experienced it on retail, it's nice to see it summarized with all the details I might've missed :)
@Daisho74
@Daisho74 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, as always....C'mon another week for the next part.....!!!! :-D
@Evasionx
@Evasionx 5 жыл бұрын
@bellulargaming Sholazar Basin is by far my fave zone of all time! It's so relaxing with its soundtrack imo! Was always super happy to level through that zone! :D
@Henry-hy5bz
@Henry-hy5bz 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid!
@jazeroth322
@jazeroth322 5 жыл бұрын
I remember lining up in Tesco for the midnight launch. We grabbed the copies jumped into the car drove to pats house and had a LAN party 🎉 awesome game.
@lazylve
@lazylve 5 жыл бұрын
This was great! Why do I have to wait a week? I have too sub now damnit
@grafspe807
@grafspe807 5 жыл бұрын
I always kind of thought that Sholazar Basin was a zone designed for farming crafting mats with some odd landscape quests thrown in. Lots of herbs and lore in there plus tons of animals that can be skinned
@emgee2
@emgee2 5 жыл бұрын
Man, watching these reminds me just how great Wrath was. They didn't try to change the playerbase and the characters to meet the world, they made the world based on what our characters were capable of.
@Miller1107
@Miller1107 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much hit the nail on the head with everything. Wrath gave me my introduction to raiding after reaching cap in BC but not having experienced anything but getting carried in Kara. Naxx was a solid introduction, and by mid expansion I was onto hard modes in Ulduar and then Heroic ICC. Special place in my heart for WotLK!
@Athanzia
@Athanzia 5 жыл бұрын
Full body chills.
@PremonitionGamingVid
@PremonitionGamingVid 5 жыл бұрын
Can we all take a moment of silence for the last, truly great, World of Warcraft expansion?
@KNByam
@KNByam 5 жыл бұрын
I remember doing Sarth 3D when it was really hard and I won the roll on the mount, I had to link my epic flying to get it from the loot master and I was so excited and nervous that I could not find it. Eventually someone told me where to look for the achievement and I finally linked it and received the mount. My friend and guildies were so happy for me and jealous at the same time because I had one of the hardest mounts to get at that time.
@pylons5485
@pylons5485 5 жыл бұрын
Bro the green blinking light that blinks whenever you talk is driving me nuts (bottom left) XD
@fcscg09white2
@fcscg09white2 5 жыл бұрын
Do you feel that after this point in wow's lifespan blizzard started catering to what they felt was a certain audience. And as there systems went downtown the path of everyone should be able to experience everything no matter how much they play we wind up where we are today. How much does blizzard wish they could trade the current sub base for sub base from back then
@Icosiol
@Icosiol 5 жыл бұрын
These videos are stellar. Did you do a TBC look back? Guess I will check.
@TheKitneys
@TheKitneys 5 жыл бұрын
I started playing WoW at the launch of the Lich King. No other expansion never quite met the same awe.
@uhhyuh9280
@uhhyuh9280 5 жыл бұрын
"WE MUST ARTHAS THIS ARTHAS" 6:48
@ShamriCayia
@ShamriCayia 5 жыл бұрын
"Then I must consider this, an act of Arthas"
@ShamriCayia
@ShamriCayia 5 жыл бұрын
@Johto Have I? *Dances*
@cllamasful
@cllamasful 5 жыл бұрын
I came in when Wrath had just started. and it was the most glorious gameplay for me
@CODwhore471
@CODwhore471 5 жыл бұрын
The accomplishment of getting specific pieces of gear from specific bosses is something that was huge in wrath. I'll never forget getting the caster shield from Sindy on my holy pally after months of clearing ICC. Annoying at the time, but I remember loving the grind.
@buckyyy5500
@buckyyy5500 5 жыл бұрын
Bro, this is absolutely nostalgia feels man... Those days where my friends IRL and Meeting friends online and finally meeting up IRL after we downed The Lich King as a bet.... feelsgoodman
@leholie93
@leholie93 5 жыл бұрын
The outro always makes me cry
@CrazyScubaCouple
@CrazyScubaCouple 5 жыл бұрын
Jooki The Twilight Vanquisher... people would invitime by accident when what they wanted was inspect me, nowdays that title means nothing because Bluzzfart didn't remove it after ulduar went up.
@orbitman88
@orbitman88 5 жыл бұрын
i remember being a DW frost DK during wrath and having to use AGI weapons. was such a fun spec to play back then.
@Than211
@Than211 5 жыл бұрын
TBC really just took Vanilla hardcore players to a whole new level. Heroic Shattered Halls completely destroyed any competent group and it traumatized most of us and I still remember it to this day. WotLK took it down several notches to let casual players in on the fun and I think that's fair; there were times I'd rather jump around in Shattrath than to do a Heroic 5-man in TBC because it was such an ordeal and you just knew it was a waste of time without the right group composition. WotLK did have some points where I felt like that I didn't want to do anything though, more so because there were no rewards to be had for doing 5-mans and they ended up just being reserved for alts; it's not that that was particularly new for a no-lifer hardcore raider but I felt no incentive to do anything most times. All that being said, I felt like that WotLK had enough differences from TBC for it to be enjoyable yet still retained familiarities where I didn't feel like I was playing something completely different. Ever since Cataclysm though, the game just felt so flat and one-dimensional and you had to play the game they wanted you to play and I hate that; I guess it's one of the many reasons why I quit and never liked the game again since.
@GeniusUnleashed
@GeniusUnleashed 5 жыл бұрын
To this day when leveling an alt I go to Borean, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Howling Fjord was great, but the different levels within the zone (height wise) made it a beast to quickly get through. Even with flying, it take me longer to level there.
@Rez0lventa
@Rez0lventa 5 жыл бұрын
For me Old Stratholm is memorable for young Arthas quote "What kind of magic is this?" Russian localization actor made it so slick.
@HELLTROPPA
@HELLTROPPA 5 жыл бұрын
Man I miss this.
@joshhall5172
@joshhall5172 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who never had much of a chance to get into raids in TBC but loved heroic dungeons early wrath was when I checked out
@Azrieth
@Azrieth 5 жыл бұрын
thing i miss the most from wrath as a arms warrior was arp :( having a high amount of it was pretty fun
@nathanparrott247
@nathanparrott247 3 жыл бұрын
I looked forward to the pvp at wintergrasp every day. Was always pretty fair on Perenold
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