BLONDE Movie Review **SPOILER ALERT**

BLONDE Movie Review SPOILER ALERT

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Жыл бұрын

Gay homosexuals Nick and Joseph spoil Blonde - a 2022 American psychological biographical fiction drama film written and directed by Andrew Dominik, based on the 2000 novel of the same name by Joyce Carol Oates.
Premise: A fictionalized chronicle of the inner life of Marilyn Monroe.
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Cast:
Ana de Armas as Norma Jeane
Lily Fisher as Young Norma Jeane
Julianne Nicholson as Gladys Pearl Baker
Tygh Runyan as Norma Jeane's Father
Michael Drayer as Deputy Will Bonnie
Sara Paxton as Miss Flynn
Ryan Vincent as Uncle Clive
Patrick Brennan as Joe
Evan Williams as Eddy Robinson Jr.
Xavier Samuel as Cass Chaplin
Dan Butler as I.E. Shinn
David Warshofsky as Mr. Z
Rebecca Wisocky as Yvet
Toby Huss as Whitey
Eric Matheny as Joseph Cotten
Bobby Cannavale as Ex-Athlete
Lucy DeVito as Ex-Athlete's Niece
Scoot McNairy as Tommy Ewell / Richard Sherman
Ravil Isyanov as Billy Wilder
Adrien Brody as The Playwright
Catherine Dent as Jean
Michael Masini as Tony Curtis / Josephine
Chris Lemmon as Jack Lemmon / Daphne
Ned Bellamy as Doc Fell
Haley Webb as Brooke
Caspar Phillipson as The President
Eden Riegel as Esther
Cinematography by Chayse Irvin
Edited by Adam Robinson
Music by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis
Keywords: ending explained, reaction video, trailer, Killing Them Softy, The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford, Venice Film Festival, Netflix

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@tybanshee Жыл бұрын

The dynamic of Nick calmly and judiciously explaining film making with such expertise followed by a brief pause and then Joseph just "not having it" with the movie makes this the best review channel lmao

@veganpeace7890 Жыл бұрын

I totally agree!!!!

@graveyardkey Жыл бұрын

They truly are the best duo 😂👍

@alltookayla Жыл бұрын

10000% they are the BEST. I hope they never change.

@whatadollslife Жыл бұрын

GREAT REVIEW

@raaid22 Жыл бұрын

I don't think that is fair to Joseph's point of view. His criticisms are well founded and logical they are just different than Nick's. His "not having it" attitude is informed by critical thinking and logic.

@waterRuby7 Жыл бұрын

Adore you two. I think The NY Times summed it up best, “it is a relief that she didn’t have to suffer through the vulgarities of “Blonde,” the latest necrophiliac entertainment to exploit her.” Couldn’t agree more.

@Missjunebugfreak Жыл бұрын

Way too accurate.

@albertkowalski5629 Жыл бұрын

If it was a movie about man being exploited nobody would be outraged. Double standards.

@waterRuby7 Жыл бұрын

@@albertkowalski5629 which film has done that? There’s been plenty of exploitation of both men and women throughout history, however in an industry heavily governed by patriarchal gender roles there are differing historical statistics. Not acknowledging the possible exploitations of a man doesn’t discredit the factual exploitation of this woman. No double standards.

@albertkowalski5629 Жыл бұрын

@@waterRuby7 Yes, no double standard. Shows like Euphoria or Minx with male bodies fully exposed in every episode and objectified to the limit, critics generally praising it for male nudity and female gaze. Meanwhile Blonde, Game of Thrones or The Witcher with more female nudity and people calling it mysoginy and male gaze. For critics female gaze is good, male gaze is evil.

@waterRuby7 Жыл бұрын

@@albertkowalski5629 Albert, when did this become a debate? You’re argument is that nudity on film and critics opinions are the issue here? C’mon. Assuming you’re not a child, you’ve got to know that’s not the issue at hand. Re-read my response. I’ll leave it at that. (This is a KZfaq channel, not Twitter- go there to argue)

@RichardHannay Жыл бұрын

“Fanfiction” is the perfect description 😆

@pamelalansbury94 Жыл бұрын

This is being called a “biopic” by the gossip sites. People in the comments are saying “this was her real life”. People do think it’s a documentary.

@LeonAvalos Жыл бұрын

That's on them tho, both the book and the movie have made it repeatedly clear it's fiction and it's more of a "reinvention" of the character's life.

@gavinmillar816 Жыл бұрын

Well it's not the fault of the filmmakers that gossip sites are run by and for idiots. The film has not once been described as a biopic by them. In fact they have gone out of their way to explain that this is an impressiontic study of the "Myth of Marilyn" and based on a novel. Most film and TV is made for idiots to understand. I'm glad that there are still films made occasionally that treat its audience like adults. The movie is superb in my opinion. A disturbing descent into hell from the point of view of one of the most abused and mistreated actresses in the history of Hollywood.

@la214la Жыл бұрын

I completely agree with Joseph! I don’t think it’s cool making up stories about a real person’s life. If they had created a fictional character, that would have been better!! Thanks for the review! This was another one I was waiting to see from you guys!! Love your reviews 🙂

@VisceralCarbon Жыл бұрын

I mean this film kind of gave us insight into what her point of view was.. were some of the Visuals a bit exaggerated? Probably…But we know enough about her private life to put the pieces together. The movie from her POV is a blur .. which it probably was.

@la214la Жыл бұрын

@@VisceralCarbon But it's all fictional. What we see may not have happened to her. I know of Queen but never followed Freddie Mercury's life. I saw Bohemian Rhapsody. I liked it, but then was more disappointed to learn that a lot of it was a bunch of lies.

@VisceralCarbon Жыл бұрын

@@la214la she was known to have dubious relationships.. Abused by her baseball player husband etc. And she was a drug abuser.. Even before this movie that was known. So what about it is really fiction? Maybe the amount of abortions she had? But like I said this movie is from her POV, being unstable and drugged up. Mainly her not keeping track of time as well. I think this movie portrayed that very well and I don't look at her any different. Art is subjective though so I respect your opinion.

@la214la Жыл бұрын

@@VisceralCarbon I respect your opinion too! I actually haven't seen the movie. I just read it was based on a book, which fictionalizes her life. And after this review, I agreed w/Joseph's POV. I'm glad you enjoyed it though.

@coilyqueen312 Жыл бұрын

I think anytime you use someone's name and or likeness you need to have permission from them or their estate and they should share in those profits. This fictionalized accounts of other people's lives only have a captive audience because of the real person so it seems explorative for them to capitalize off of it without consent.

@cheesecake106 Жыл бұрын

What's the point of taking creative license to make up shit about a public figure though when you could funnel those "creative " choices into an original character. If your work can't stand on its own and you have to leech off Marilyn's name just say that henny.. she was a person. Anyway love yall lmao

@hattiesallie2622 Жыл бұрын

I agree!!!!

@yennefer440 Жыл бұрын

You're right, I just wish people would let her rest.

@tigerlilly9038 Жыл бұрын

My grandma who was born 1913 would say all the time "women can catch hell being too pretty" The first time she said it around me around my middle-school beauty struggle years, crying tears of thinking you're ugly at 12...., I thought to myself 'grandma you tripping' being pretty would be so better...as I got older and older, I came to understand the wisdom in the statement and reference Being "pretty" in the Jim Crow South was a hell in the right circumstances....same as today 2022: objectification. It's really f-ed up.

@meaningoftheunicorn Жыл бұрын

"If that lady came back from the dead and saw this movie, she would not be happy." So true 😆 The cinematography and acting were fine but got tired of her being pitiful for three long hours.

@kendraaaaa2356 Жыл бұрын

Nobody : Joseph : “ I think her wig looks really nice “ all of the witty commentary is my favorite part of every review 😂😂

@kendraaaaa2356 Жыл бұрын

I love Nick’s knowledge of film as well ❤

@LilyRose8959 Жыл бұрын

After she was done shooting the dress scene Joe DiMaggio, whom she was was married to at the time, beat her so severely it lead to her divorcing him. And her marriage to Jim Doherty, the first husband, was true. Her guardians were moving out of state and her options were get married or go to an orphanage. She did not want to go to the orphanage, absolutely dead set against it, so she married Jim, who was a neighbor and kind of a friend. And Gladys, her mom, was legitimately insane. She attacked her friend Ida with a knife before she was committed.

@kellycasperhanson4426 Жыл бұрын

I'm 61 and have no intention of watching this movie (you called that age thing right!) but I always like being informed about current movies. I absolutely love hearing you two go back and forth about movies❤️‍🔥! It's so much fun, but also very informative.

@nicholaspruitt9032 Жыл бұрын

"I feel bad for this moove...." Joseph you're a true original, never change. You too Nick, I could listen to you talk about film all day.

@NeeNee_B. Жыл бұрын

"Oh, I was present." Not "Oh, I watched that WITH you." Just "I was present" 😂😭😭😭😭😭😭 Never change, Joseph ❤

@alltookayla Жыл бұрын

thank yall so much for reviewing this. I did not feel comfortable seeing it and I am glad y'all reviewed it so I could hear from yall about your thoughts and opinions. Have a great weekend!!

@user-jf7ej5py1u Жыл бұрын

Wish I had watched some reviews before watching it Kayla 😞. I regret seeing it.

@MrPatrice637 Жыл бұрын

I was curious about this because of the trailer and what was in it for it to get an NC-17 rating. A friend of mine watched it and when I asked how was it, he told me it was a very long cologne commercial with Ana giving her all as Marilyn Monroe crying, spiraling, being assaulted, and mistreated. Sheesh. OH! And he said it felt like a tacky infantilization of a beautiful, smart, vibrant, iconic woman. Thank you for your thorough, balanced review!! I can see how this movie can be polarizing and I, too, have enjoyed some Marilyn drag!!

@Roxanne3802 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@Wellspring604 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Joseph on this. This movie felt like sensational fan fiction using a real person's life and death, and it felt exploitative to me. Why even make this movie about her? Come up with another character! Marilyn said she didn't want to seem like a joke, and she wanted to be respected for her acting craft. I wish the movie portrayed how strong she was to get to where she did in her life. As for how she died, I'm not even convinced that there wasn't anything shady going on; I wish they would have skipped that altogether.

@vodkatonyq Жыл бұрын

Because there's probably no one better to represent the abuse women have gone through in society than THE MOST FAMOUS WOMAN OF THE 20TH CENTURY??? That's why.

@chloequinn2274 Жыл бұрын

As an extreme Marilyn fan that has seen every documentary and every movie about her this was terrible. I found it to be completely exploitive. I HATED it. But thank you for the review.💋

@dfcintron Жыл бұрын

'Forged in hellfire'. Great description!

@5Heliotrope Жыл бұрын

This movie was gross, disturbing, vomit-inducing, disrespectful, exploitative, full of lies and awful on ALL levels. Monroe deserves better. This movie is one of the top 3 WORST movies I have ever seen.

@mandymac74 Жыл бұрын

There is a doc that was on HBOMAX. This is about Arthur Miller. His daughter Rebecca Miller did it. When he talks about Marilyn he said she was the saddest women he had ever met or known. It was a more honest look at Marilyn than I had ever seen. Who knows the truth? I new she had miscarriages. I had never heard about abortions. Miller said all she wanted was love but felt like she didn’t deserve love. 😢 Hearing Miller talk about Monroe was very real and very heartbreaking. I canceled Netflix so maybe I can see this from Redbox in a few weeks???

@leagavin2 Жыл бұрын

I have to watch that.

@mandymac74 Жыл бұрын

@@leagavin2 its worth your time, promise😉👍

@mysticc6232 Жыл бұрын

@@mandymac74 This movie was disgusting and fake, deff not worth watching. Thanks for giving those nasty degenerate men money tho

@mysticc6232 Жыл бұрын

@@leagavin2 DONT

@J.C.3 Жыл бұрын

It’s a over sad movie… that’s 2 hours 50 mins😂 I’m sure she had happy moments in life as well. I thought it was pretty interestingly shot tho.

@melydelagarza Жыл бұрын

And the JFK bit seemed so ridiculous. He was a womanizer, not a woman beater

@B-ch6uk Жыл бұрын

He didn't beat her, he dehumanized her though

@melydelagarza Жыл бұрын

@@B-ch6ukagree

@stephennootens916 Жыл бұрын

The weird part of that scene was the actor clearly looked nothing like JFK nor did he sound like him.

@macebluemoon369 Жыл бұрын

You guys are so cute with your banter while giving these reviews. I LOVE IT!!!

@Naijacatt Жыл бұрын

The director said who watches Marilyn Monroe movies and that’s when I knew this movie would be complete SHYT. I love her in “some like it hot” a classic comedy and she is a great actress and singer and this whole movie was a disgrace to her memory. So disrespectful

@babyspicebitch Жыл бұрын

"I don't recall that" LMFAO JOSEPH..you never recall anything 😂😂😂🤣

@SRFarming420 Жыл бұрын

I was grossed out throughout the movie. And her dying at the end, made me feel so fkd up. Depressing. I guess it was good in a way that it evoked a feeling, but the feeling was not good. Very dark energy. Ana did a good job, she can definitely act. I feel they didn't treat her with much respect as an actor with some of these scenes. It's sad.

@katie77r Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. This film made me feel so unbelievably depressed and just awful really. I wish I hadn't seen it. And such a terrible portrayal of Marilyn...I really wanted her to shine but she was nothing but a sex object.

@Spaceghost22 Жыл бұрын

@@katie77r Marilyn´s life was hard and she struggled a lot, that´s a FACT. It wasn´t just glamour and stardom.

@katie77r Жыл бұрын

@@Spaceghost22 Yes, I know that! I've read a lot of books about her life and she suffered a great deal. What I was trying to say is that they used her pain to exploit her not show her good side. Geez!

@rmjmoviereviews6876 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review! This was you guys most balanced review! Good back and forth rebuttals! Counter points to each argument. I'm gonna check this flick out.

@Anothernammee Жыл бұрын

Been waiting on this one! Excited to hear what you guys think !

@veganpeace7890 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for you guys to review this movie!! I don't know if I'll watch it, maybe someday when I'm in the mood for a depressing story.

@ryanc5572 Жыл бұрын

"The cat is assaulting us." Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@c3c3y0 Жыл бұрын

Was eagerly waiting for your review on this movie! Clicked as fast as I could. 😅

@mikki3740 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review!! I believe this style in books is called "roman a clef"? I agree that the best way to do this is to always change the names. They should make it a thinly veiled portrayal of the people involved, so that there's no doubt who the person is supposed to be. I agree it can become problematic when you use the same names, as people can mistake it for a biopic and that can be a problem. I may check this out. Thank you!

@vodkatonyq Жыл бұрын

the thing is, even if it is a biopic and stays seemingly faithful to the facts, it'll always be a piece of fiction, and therefore not really true.

@Annalove1955 Жыл бұрын

Great review,, I hope ya’ll know how great and entertaining your movie reviews are, seriously!! ❤I look forward to your reviews!!!

@nocontextwhatever Жыл бұрын

I'm not feeling this one but always appreciate the review!!! Love the podcast too but last week especially was great. Thanks for all the delightful content!!! 💕❤️

@LadyChatterly Жыл бұрын

Y’all both are my best friends in my head!!! I always come directly here after watching anything to see if it’s okay to feel how I feel 😎😬🙌🏿❤️

@gayhomosexuallll Жыл бұрын

Was looking forward to Joseph’s take on this. It’s optimistic to think that the audience will do their due diligence (I don’t even think that’s our job really); biopics themselves often give the audience a false idea of the person (we’ve been shown zero evidence that the civil rights movement effected Elvis in anyway but Baz Luhrman’s film would tell us different. Same with many white savior films about real life figures, etc.) And this isn’t even a biopic, so the general viewer is going to walk away thinking that this all really happened. I think showing extended scenes of SA is most egregious as it’s totally fictional (and then there’s the ethics of that). Obviously, I’m not a fan, but I love y’all’s thoughts, always!!

@richgranados11 Жыл бұрын

It’s such a beautifully shot and scored film. I really liked the sound design. The script and the inaccuracies were quite silly at times though but It’s par for the course for biopics. Maybe the best feel-bad movie of the year?

@chefnedarque Жыл бұрын

Fantastic review for such a divisive film! I simultaneously agree with both of you about this movie, as an MM fan myself. (And Marilyn prolly would not love Blonde as much as our fire conversations about it :)

@youtubez7580 Жыл бұрын

New to your channel but I love you guys! Thanks for the review, one of the best reviews I’ve seen on this movie

@wingedstarz Жыл бұрын

Why was she topless so much? I don’t have a problem with it but was there a point to it? Was Marilyn not into nightgowns? Anyone know? I tried google but got lazy lol

@stephennootens916 Жыл бұрын

Well the claim has always been that she slept in the nude. She was found that way.

@jentalksbooks Жыл бұрын

Thanks, guys! Love your videos! Great watching material for airports and plane travel this past week. 👌

@fishjellyfilmreviews Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad we could be of service.

@docdave63 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. This one seems to be getting very mixed reviews from everyone, including the two of you 😂. I’ll have to check it out for myself 👍

@riya9065 Жыл бұрын

I loved hearing both of you talk about this film. The film did add a lot of things, and exaggerated the truth a little. It’s sad that even after her death the gossip and lies didn’t stop 💔

@thatbee3585 Жыл бұрын

Just found your channel today. Great review I really enjoyed it . Thank you

@wevegotissues8508 Жыл бұрын

Gday fellas, . Not a Marilyn Monroe fan but loved hearing your response to this film I wouldn’t usually watch. Always love the banter between the two of you.

@emakoo01 Жыл бұрын

You guys are adorable and I love listening to your movie reviews 😘

@shekwaga Жыл бұрын

I loved this conversation.

@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy Жыл бұрын

I'm 30 minutes into the movie. I can't and won't sit through another 2 hours. 😐

@hnybee113 Жыл бұрын

@Fish Jelly Film Review I really would love too connect with the both of you. I'm an elementary teacher in Sierra Madre who still has ties and interests in and of Hollywood .and entertainment. As an 80s kid whose dad worked in the blue collar under belly of film distribution. So I am wanting to interview people I admire who connect on a deeper level of film Review. You both really do bring me new insight and dry humor joy. 😆

@harlandenham Жыл бұрын

Loved this review. Opposing points of view but both of you guys made great arguments.

@emakoo01 Жыл бұрын

Ever since you said Britney should’ve played Marilyn…. I can’t unsee it 🤯 (Ana was amazing tho)

@1rwjwith Жыл бұрын

I started watching this film on Netflix last night, I may stop right where it is and bail on it. She just met Joe DiMaggio is where I left it. ANA DE ARMAS is good, she is the least of the problems with this… It seems like another lurid bio pic…and I do have an issue with changing or fabricating parts of someone who is famous real story. It just seems like an impressionistic version of the tragic “ Hollywood” tale. I did like MM but she was a little before my time so it’s not like I am annoyed at them tarnishing her legend it’s just kind of tiresome to keep going through it again and again! I like your in depth review on it.

@RB-.- Жыл бұрын

the last hour is a lot better and very effective and haunting

@vodkatonyq Жыл бұрын

I don't see how the movie is tarnishing her legend? It is simply showing that she led a very harrowing life.

@WhytheBookWins Жыл бұрын

Great review, loved hearing your different perspectives. What is each of yours favorite Marilyn Monroe movie?

@fishjellyfilmreviews Жыл бұрын

We would both say Niagara.

@krystingrant6292 Жыл бұрын

It had me weeping triggered a lot of my childhood. That termination was a trigger I couldn't finish the movie and will not.

@JoJo65654 Жыл бұрын

Every outfit in the movie looked exactly like what she really wore. Beautifully done. Actress, perfect job. Alot of it was accurate although out of sequence in history. And it was a horror. The scene in the makeup mirror where she became Marilyn was as if she was possessed. I liked this movie alot even with some issues it had. I'm with Nick on this one.

@anniesmolkin7685 Жыл бұрын

Very very well done review of the movie

@nonabliss Жыл бұрын

I liked Ana de Armas' performance more than the film itself. She really should be considered for nominations from all the big awards this fall. I was disturbed by the way Joe DiMaggio abused her after he was presented with the risque pics and after she did that scene from The Seven Year Itch. I thought to myself, "Who did that fool think he was marrying......The Virgin Mary?" I was also disturbed by the whole sequence when she went to see JFK. The men who picked her up really didn't seem enamored by the fact that she was the glamorous movie star Marilyn Monroe, they just seemed like they were picking up another lady friend of the president for a visit, which I think was the point. Also, the casualness of how they just kinda manhandled her and brought her to JFK's room as they were passing by staff and workers in what I'm assuming was the White House. When they were passing through, I noticed that there was a female staffer crying into her hands, and I wondered what that was all about. Anyway, the bj scene and what I interpreted as an unseen sexual assault by JFK kinda shocked me, but in honesty I have read accounts of how sexually voracious JFK was but I do think that was a bit over the top. I too did appreciate the visual of the waterfall imposed under the menage a trois. I thought it was very creative. There were many moments of the narrative where poetic license was used a bit too much but it didn't bother me a lot. I left the film feeling sad about how her life turned out and how even 60 years after her death (8/4/62) the world is still captivated by her life, death, and mythos.

@fucksampleclearance2106 Жыл бұрын

Team Joseph on this one. Poetic license? More like bastardizing. Adapting from a fan fic book, that's fine. Still, was like a porno snuff film. Not even a hard pass, just straight NOPE!

@clairerodin2070 Жыл бұрын

Loved it! It looked gorgeous! Just very bold. Really beautiful cinematography and the score. Ana did a great job!!!

@musaxcoco2833 Жыл бұрын

This movie was not it. The Movie is an insult to Marilyn What they did to her is disgusting. 3 hours of my life I will never get back. What a horrible movie. (The director openly admitted that he never watched any of Marilyn's films, further proof that this movie was only made to cash in on a Hollywood Starlet.) They continue to exploit and sexualize a dead person with made up things, as if she wasn't exploited and sexualized enough. As a massive fan this was a shot to the heart, worse than any book, documentary or biopic i have seen

@lilbabyhaydee Жыл бұрын

Love you guys, but I hated this movie! I felt like Andrew Dominik had zero respect for Marilyn, and not only that, it felt like he had some sort of disdain for films of the period in general. I enjoyed 'Pearl' because I felt like there was a real respect for the material it was referencing, but this movie seemed almost disdainful of the era in Hollywood. Not to mention the CGI 'fetus' lol. I guess I'm a little more with Joseph on this one. Great to hear ya'lls perspective.

@dontlookforme1999 Жыл бұрын

the movie was closer to a psychological thriller. the pov of a fetus was sooo gruesome.

@scottsharp1763 Жыл бұрын

spoiler alert: its disrespectful hawt garbage, wait thats no spoiler.!.

@puspavelai8353 Жыл бұрын

:) Joseph (rightly) having 'issues' wrapping his head around a 'fiction-drama.' Yeah. Like I 'know' Marilyn Monroe - but not the details. The flesh and bones of a working actress is poking through the idolization part, perhaps. Critical viewpoints by Nick, positives : "I don't think there was a lot of pleasure in being Marilyn Monroe." Really balanced review :)

@raaid22 Жыл бұрын

I plan on seeing this, but I am worried. I will say I am so over these "sad Marilyn" movies. She was a full human being who was multifaceted. She was she was sad, but there had to have been joy too. After all she chose to be a star, and chose to continue to work in the movie industry year after year. If they ever make another movie about her I hope it paints a more complete picture of this vibrant, witty human being that had many challenges and obstacles in her life.

@stephennootens916 Жыл бұрын

She also was a support of civil rights and founded her own company. The Prince and The Showgirl was her project completely. She made it independently with her company. If things had gone another way she had lived she might habe done more on the other side of the camera.

@Emmachristmas Жыл бұрын

I love this movie! A bit long, but so intense, Ana de Armas performance is mind blowing!

@Margejo7 Жыл бұрын

Excellent review, guys! I’m a Boomer who actually experienced the wide range of emotions that the two of you expressed. Thanks for hitting all the films in the “Marilyn” canon… including, the Judd/Sorvino piece; I didn’t know anyone other than myself and my dear, departed mother ever saw the great Kim Stanley’s “The Goddess”. I don’t think I’m gonna read the JCO’s source novel….at least, not now. Amazon just delivered my copy of “Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye: The Barbara Payton Story”, by John O’Dowd….the last word in “beautiful blond actress gone wrong” porn….

@MrGemini8617 Жыл бұрын

That movie was a disrespectful mess and as a huge fan and fellow gemini, I was offended 😤 😒

@TechnicJunglist Жыл бұрын

I'm saving this for tonight. I agree with you both. I'm interested in the Lynch aspect (big fan) and the fact that her life was in fact a horror show. The Misfits had Monty Clift who I absolutely adore. Another tragic figure who Marilyn famously stated was an even bigger mess than she was and that loving connection between them is evident on screen. I'd personally like to see a biopic about the infamous Barbara Payton. Check her story out.

@TechnicJunglist Жыл бұрын

@@03817 I've watched that as well. He was devastating beautiful in my opinion even after the accident although he was in agonizing pain. I'd love to see him revisted. Here's Liz's take on Monty which is wonderful. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrmqaq1y27TWgqs.html

@TechnicJunglist Жыл бұрын

@@03817 one of the 1st method actors. If he hadn't had the accident he probably would have Brando & Dean's roles. A Place In The Sun is heartbreaking. Whenever they play his films on TCM I can't help but watch. He was one of those people where it actually hurt to look at how beautiful he was. His facial vulnerability, body language, and eyes said so much without him saying a word. It's cool to find another Monty fan from time to time. It's sad he's been lost to the ages so I often recommend him to friends who get hooked as well. When Liz saved his life by removing his teeth from his windpipe and the paps showed up to take pictures of his injuries she said if you even try it you'll never get another photo or interview with me ever again. They did snap the car but not him. She was a stand up friend to the end.

@TechnicJunglist Жыл бұрын

@@03817 if you're a fan of old movies you'd dig this. Here's the Monty collection but there are many others. kzfaq.info/sun/PLjLfFu3SkU3tZz7GmACf4zl-HZfBnYXxT

@lsimon343 Жыл бұрын

I too, wished it was more like a horror film. It was a little crazy but as usual both of u give a fair report

@elizabetha.188 Жыл бұрын

I 100% agree with Joseph on this one!!!

@angelforceforyou Жыл бұрын

The whole first half of the movie should have been cut out. The last half was interesting. The hairline on the wig was the most accurate a hair stylist has gotten to Marilyn down to the widow’s peak although the hairline could have receded more

@MasonLeCompte Жыл бұрын

Lol “Daddy Issues” is a better title.

@ke6264 Жыл бұрын

I was torn with this film, still trying to make up my mind if I truly liked it or not. It was quite long however Anna looked and sounded just like MM to me so I was into that but there was a lot of stuff going on that made me cringe

@millsykooksy4863 Жыл бұрын

The Reality is probably so much worse than what is shown in the film. The movie was based on a fictional book by JCO

@lsimon343 Жыл бұрын

POPPY MONTGOMERY AS MARILYN GUYS!! Look it up!!

@Devilsblood Жыл бұрын

Nice Cave from the bad seeds did the music?

@lexis4490 Жыл бұрын

I still want to see a movie from Marilyn Monroe of why she was icon and how she handled it.

@cliff9685 Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the CBS miniseries version from 2001 with Poppy Montgomery, Ann Margaret, Patricia Richardson, and Patrick Dempsey. It’s the same movie, but done completely different. I never thought a low budget TV movie would be the better adaptation. I strongly recommend you check it out to compare.

@BookMaven9 Жыл бұрын

Lol crunchy is my new go to word. I also get what Nick is saying about Americans puritanical approaches.

@biochem70 Жыл бұрын

What was the meaning behind the note that Cassie left her with the teddy bear before she OD'd?

@chrisg9900 Жыл бұрын

i feel like the big things this review is missing is an acknowledgment of surrealism (which is a huge part of the novel, not a biography or in your phrase "what i wanted"), and an acknowledgement of the simulacrum and reproduced images in American culture and film (of which Norma Jean/ Marilyn is a perfect avenue to explore that!). I like the idea of this as a horror film, like a feminist nightmare (no consent, no consent to your reproduction which many actresses were forced to do for their careers), but i agree the movie also demands total sympathy for the character.

@23thisdude Жыл бұрын

Awesome review as always! I agree more with Joseph although you both make great points. Thought the same things like she probably wouldn't be cool with this movie and they could've made her look better but I still respect the film makers visions and I'm sure someone else will make a better movie about her one day

@leagavin2 Жыл бұрын

The cinematography was probably my favorite part. But I would have to see it again to get an understanding. I agree the NC-17 rating was not needed. This movie makes me want to read the book.

@JHEntertainment98 Жыл бұрын

Honestly I expected it to be more graphic since it was NC-17 but it was one of the softest NC-17 films I’ve seen, but than again the MPA nowadays has no balls.

@leagavin2 Жыл бұрын

@@JHEntertainment98 exactly. Maybe it’s because of the bj part but euphoria showed a hell of a lot worse.

@iseemelanie Жыл бұрын

I love how Nick says White Michelle Williams, like Michelle is her second name 😂

@SacredArtofhealing Жыл бұрын

So I saw a 2001 TV movie that is almost like this movie I am guessing it's from the same book this movie looks better of course but I am questioning every thing about the woman now I don't know whats true or not.

@khalifparker7040 Жыл бұрын

Not “BEEF CURTAINS “😭

@jessicaparker7095 Жыл бұрын

It's not Denis O'Hare playing the makeup artist- it's Toby Huss ;)

@theguy1335 Жыл бұрын

I was distracted because Joseph is beyond attractive but he did make good points about the movie and yes his teeth is brighter than my future

@hasiynafall1668 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review...are you guys gonna review Dahmer

@KiwiGurl4Life Жыл бұрын

They’ve reviewed it on their latest podcast.

@fishjellyfilmreviews Жыл бұрын

Yes, we cover it on the most recent podcast episode.

@michaelhead4387 Жыл бұрын

Now I REALLY want to watch this. I had virtually no interest as I chalked it up to an exploitative film in the same vein as those Manson, and O.J.movies that came out a few years ago. But your review brought so much more interest to this film for me. Both of your opinions really made me think, "oh I'll hate that, oh that's interesting..." So that is a spectacular job on your part. And to evoke LYNCH, and music that is also reminiscent of Lynch films...ok ..MUST SEE NOW. Great job guys! Michael

@vodkatonyq Жыл бұрын

Totally agree with Nick. The film is not a traditional biopic, but more of a passion play. Ultimately Dominik is using Marilyn Monroe, about the most famous woman of the 20th century, to talk about the suffering of women, not only in Hollywood, but of society in general, and Monroe is about the most perfect vessel for such an exploration. I don't think the film is perfect, but it's still an often emotionally stirring, often visually stunning and beautifully acted by Ana de Armas. I was the whole time with Marilyn, so yeah, it was definitely empathetic.

@stilesstilinski9640 Жыл бұрын

It didn’t make me pity her but it made me feel bad for her because I feel like she had a lot of rage and pain as Norma Jeane and then with Marilyn, I think it was a defense mechanism to shield the world and herself away from the rage and the pain that she was feeling inside

@youtubez7580 Жыл бұрын

I liked messed up movies and this one kind of rubbed me the wrong way

@d.m3368 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@fishjellyfilmreviews Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@vvdik Жыл бұрын

I loved this film. Ana de Amis dug real deep for this. It was never going to be a sappy biopic. It's good to feel uneasy

@peters10456170 Жыл бұрын

I started watching this because i wanted to learn more about Marilyn. Once i was realized they were making of stuff for the fun of it i turned it off 🙄

@rodriguezkuba Жыл бұрын

It’s Toby Huss playing the hairdresser 😑

@nikz.4550 Жыл бұрын

I watched this movie yesterday and I have watched other Marilyn bios and movies, I feel like this movie is a fifty shades of MARILYN MONROE in a nutshell. Nobody in this lifetime are any other I believe ever thought Marilyn Monroe had a great life but this movie takes it over the edge and beyond. I must say that if there is any amount of truth to Joyce C. OATES Book about Marilyn Monroe and what she endured against her will are so we see in this movie, should strongly be looked into by law enforcement. Titles of very important people of yesteryear that make way to rights of powerful people of today and the titles and riches the hold should be shitting bricks after the nation wide release of this movie. Maybe not enough people read Joyce C. Oates book about the late actress, but this movie is a "GATE OPENING" to a whole new resurgence of # me too. Maybe that's why this movie was made this way in all its extremely bold unfiltered accusations it creates, because I felt like I was watching a movie based on some sort of high profile court case turned into some sort of very extremely twisted Documentary about Marilyn Monroe only without the high profile court case. Maybe I'm missing something, are I just don't get it but I'm pretty sure, "I'm seeing the same movie everyone else is"!!!!!