BMW i3s EV Full Send on the Nürburgring Nordschleife BTG 10.08

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BMW i3s EV Full Send on the Nürburgring Nordschleife BTG 10.08

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Күн бұрын

The i3s is a cool everyday car for someone who drives short distances and wants to be a little "sporty" on the road. But it is certainly not a track tool, of course I already knew that before this test on the famous Nordschleife.
Overall, I drove 3 laps and the car has so far performed very well except for the power reduction that is practically immediately there. Already after about 1.5 km you have only felt half the power. The I3s has the tendency to understeer, not 1 time came the rear, not even when trailbraking.
What was good:
Chassis is amazingly good, but curbs should only be approached lightly.
The brakes have done surprisingly well, certainly also because of the help of the electric motor that has braked.
I could drive 3 laps with 1 charge.
Negative:
The ESP intervenes even if it is not really necessary.
The power control is very strong and the i3s is really slow, from Breitscheid to Hoheacht it felt like an eternity.
A very dear greeting to all i3s fans.
Stefan
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@robertsaca3512 Жыл бұрын

One of BMW's best and most misunderstood vehicles. A shame it's discontinued.

@mrdrgonzo Жыл бұрын

It’s a real shame, the smallest they produce is the IX1 but that’s still a massive car. We just sold an 2018 X1 and got an i3 and are absolutely loving it right now, such a fun car to drive.

@Gemini_0815 7 ай бұрын

Well at least BMW now makes the iX Carbon Fiber body SUV in the factory where they started the i3, so the technology lives on and maybe eventually we will get a gen 2 i3. We got our i3s recently and we love it.

@stevenc5526 18 күн бұрын

We have a i3S rex. The tub is entirely carbon fiber. Very light and tight. Feels like no other vehicle.

@donswier Жыл бұрын

Low Center of Gravity, good weight distribution, brake-saving regen, instant torque ☺️👍

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Everything you said its correct, but the car loose every type of torque after a few minutes

@donswier Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz Good to know! Here in my area (NW USA) you get a free night in jail if you did that on public roads☺️

@rcpmac 4 ай бұрын

@@donswier Nürburgring is a track

@mike_t_007 3 ай бұрын

@Stighiz Does the loss of torque have anything to do with the tires losing grip/tread after some high speed laps on this track?

@Harcix 2 ай бұрын

i3 is actually very wobbly and unstable at cornering and speeds

@iNick90 Жыл бұрын

I was trying to get a close look at that battery and I got to say it looks like that car can do about 8 laps driving like that. Impressive 👍

@davidford631 Жыл бұрын

What excellent, smooth style that undoubtedly extracted a good performance from the i3S - a car not really suited to those long, wide straights. I enjoyed the lines you took through the corners (seems a lot of them on full power) since as an ex-motorcycle racer, these seem similar lines to those I’d have taken on a bike. Throughout, you kept maximum momentum and did little to scrub speed - which was great to watch. We have two i3’s - an i3 and an i3S. I’ve had lots of cars (and bikes) but for where I live, with many smaller, twisty country roads there is little that can keep up with the i3 and i3S. Small size, light weight and instant torque just leaves almost everything else on four wheels in the dust…. BMW built a gem with the i3 - and our two are both “keepers”. I don’t think it will be long before they’re more widely recognised for the classic drivers car they are. A huge difference from the 3 tonne EV’s that seem to be the norm now.

@mundoracer Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for the info in the description. I'm a proud i3s owner 😎

@KMLiew Жыл бұрын

Me too! Danke!

@alessandro-on9zz Жыл бұрын

i had a 2015 i3 and used to do a lot of accellerations and it would almost never skimp out on power. now i have a 2018 i3s and after 2-3 full throttle, I get reduced energy from the screen. do you guys have that as well?

Жыл бұрын

@@alessandro-on9zz Mine is a 2019 i3s and I haven't noticed a drop in performance in any situation so far. The only problem is that when you first get into the car you are overwhelmed by the power delivery, but you get used to it quite quickly and then you want more and more. So for me the "throttling" was just in my head. 🤪

@rcpmac 4 ай бұрын

@@alessandro-on9zz that is common with most EVs that I’ve read about. It could be designed for track use by improving the cooling but the car isn’t designed for that.

@poobalu Жыл бұрын

I miss owning one of these, there's something really enjoyable about the near silence being disrupted by tire squeal and curbs here

@henning.a4646 11 ай бұрын

Cool lap. I own an i3s and love it, such a fun citycar and a blast on the b-roads

@andrewamidala 2 ай бұрын

I went from jaguar to a BMWi3 and I have been driving it for about a year. I love it, my journey from Kent to London and back costs me less than £2 a day For my first BMW i was very surprised by the build quality. I would buy another without hesitation!

@MrMikejam23 Жыл бұрын

One of the best driving displays I've seen on YT at the ring. Wringing every ounce of grip and torque out of the i3. Superb driving, well done. 👏👏

@toteratte21 4 ай бұрын

Nachdem ich mir dein Lehrvideo angeschaut habe, bin ich dieses Wochenende mit dem i3s auf die Nordschleife. Die Leistungsreduzierung setzt spätestens ab Aremberg ein und ist einfach so frustrierend, mit voller Power und selbst mit reduzierter kann man sich in engen Kurven und bergab Passagen behaupten aber nach Bergwerk wird man von jeder Oma im Corsa überholt 🙈 Wenn man wenigstens eine Runde mit 184ps fahren könnte würde es echt Bock machen und bestimmt manche überraschen.

@ug636 3 ай бұрын

nunja... man kann ja auch die höchsgeschwindikeitsbegrenzungaufheben... und auch diie drehmomentbegrenzung bis 30 ..... ich würd sagen so und mit 19" 205 rundum mit kw fahrwerk ....

@vitormvpinto Жыл бұрын

Great drive! Maybe adding a square setup in the tyres (195 in the front) to dial the understeer and roller mode to shut down the ESP will help?

@cedarcanoe Ай бұрын

I own a secondhand 2017 94Ah i3 and I just love it.

@DanceLarksfilms Жыл бұрын

Very nice car I’m thinking of getting one

@LavikkaPhotography 5 ай бұрын

Do you think changing the front wheels to the rear wheel size would help with the under steer? Did you put the car into rolling mode in the maintenance menu before you took it on the track?

Жыл бұрын

Ich hatte so gehofft dass sich die Tuner Szene mehr mit diesem Auto beschäftigt aber leider beschränkt sich das Tuning bisher eher auf Spoiler und Co. Einen Eingriff in die Motorsteuerung, eine Optimierung und Verstärkung des Motors (Kühlung), Anpassung des ESP und was halt sonst das Auto leistungsfähiger macht, hat sich nie jemand die Mühe gemacht. Mit einem KW Gewindefahrwerk und sonstigen Standard -Tuningmaßnahmen könnte man schon was zaubern wo klassische Nürburgring Benutzer Respekt zeigen würden. Wenn ich sehe was Opel mit dem e-Corsa macht dann bin ich umso enttäuschter von BMW denn der i3 würde eine wesentlich bessere Ausgangsbasis bieten.

@ug636 3 ай бұрын

DRehmomentudbegrenzung aufheben und topspeed geht auch .. gaaaanz einfach

3 ай бұрын

@@ug636 Das ist aber kein Tuning und die vom Hersteller gesetzten Grenzen gelten weiterhin. Keine Ahnung wie Du die Drehmomentbegrenzung aufheben willst, aber im Traction Modus ist ebenfalls die ASR abgeschaltet mit dem Ergebnis dass mein i3s nach fünf Kurven mit einem Fehler im Antriebssystem liegen geblieben ist. Nach einem Neustart war zwar wieder alles in Ordnung aber wahrscheinlich wurden irgendwelche definierten Grenzwerte überschritten und die Motorsteuerung hat abgeschaltet. Gibt auch viele Berichte die schon nach kurzer Vollstromfahrt ein deutliches Nachlassen dokumentieren, also auch das Eingreifen einer Schutzschaltung. Richtiges Tuning greift auch in die Hardware ein, verstärkt Bauteile und ermöglicht so die Grenzen höher anzusetzen. Vielleicht kann eine neue Firmware von Steuergeräten mehr Effizienz bringen, das muss aber auch mit viel Wissen gemacht werden.

@ug636 3 ай бұрын

@ Über das interne Menü .. links außen am DIsplay ist ein kleiner Knopf.... dann im Menü freischalten .Dann hast du auch die vollen 270nm ab 0kmh .... aber die Garantie geht verloren ...

@mikkdoo Жыл бұрын

😂 einfach herrich zuzuschauen 👍🏻👏🏻

@wiltse0 Жыл бұрын

wonder if turning off the stability control systems via Roller mode would help. also... can an extra battery cooler be added?

@hippievogelei 3 ай бұрын

I think this is possible through mods. No one even hardcore mod this car. Just imagine stripping it down to 900kg(a 60ah 2013 weigh less than 1200kg) the battery pack is 20 kwh weighs 400kg, new gen can be 200kg with the same capacity) slap tesla drivetrain in it. With a quarter battery 25kwh(200kg)

@swedishmotorshow Жыл бұрын

Excellent drive. Is your car 100% stock with no alterations?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Thank you, yes, completely stock.

@lefteris696 10 ай бұрын

There is a test mode where you can turn-off the traction control and "free up" perhaps some more torque and rotation in the corners...

@swecreations 11 ай бұрын

It's cool how well this car handles still, wonder how well it would do with some modifications like changing the final drive ratio, disabling ESP, improving motor cooling, plus going for a square 195mm setup or even 195mm/215mm (this fits the stock 20" wheels) with the Bridgestone Potenza S001. You said you were running on the stock i3s tires, as far as I know these are the Bridgestone Ecopia EP500? I'm thoroughly impressed of the grip levels if that is the case because those are nowhere close to performance tires.

@BlatentlyFakeName 6 ай бұрын

There isn't much point. They only do 93mph on a good day. It's almost flat out already. You could modify a 0.9L Renault Twingo and lap quicker than this. Plus you could do more than 3 laps.

@ChrisZang Жыл бұрын

Fantastic line, I think you drove the ring already a couple times :-) Aber in den Bergaufabschnitten zieht sich’s dann doch etwas (ich hab auch einen i3 ich weiß wie sich das anfühlt)

@whocares264 Жыл бұрын

very good , i wish sabine was here

@antster7 Жыл бұрын

It's not about the car but the driver

@whocares264 2 ай бұрын

Great video, it would have been nice to see some stats, the i3 has a retricted top speed could this be disabled.

@luissandoval4977 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Very nice!

@unixbash Жыл бұрын

Did you run the stock Bridgestone tyres and how did you find the wear?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

They are ok

@unixbash Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz I think the wider i3s tyres make a big difference from the stock i3. I ruined a brand new set of Bridgestones on track, especially the front 155s

@_rhapsodist 2 ай бұрын

should have tried this in Roller mode 😉

@OstapRK 6 ай бұрын

Около 7 минут ? Я так понимаю сносит в поворотах порядочно, и это 3s , а что тогда говорить по 155/70 r19 ?

@daviddurham4659 Жыл бұрын

I wonder what percentage of the lap was at full throttle. My guess is a lot.

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Nice question, probably 90% :-D

@davidaveiro7174 Жыл бұрын

Good 😍👍

@chrisw5685 Жыл бұрын

Bei solch schönem Wetter so wenig Verkehr? Cooles Video, aber mein Finanzminister verbietet mir mit unserem eine Runde zu fahren. Ich wohne ja nicht weit weg. Schade, dass man den Tacho im Video nicht sieht.

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Ja wegen dem Tacho ist es wirklich schade... ein pech das genau das Lenkrad da verläuft...

@chrisw5685 Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz musst dann nochmal hin 😂. Ich komm dann vorbei

@chrisw5685 Жыл бұрын

Hast ein paar Werte mitgeschrieben? Verbrauch, Akku Temperatur, Beschleunigungen?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Nein nichts

@race-partners Жыл бұрын

How much battery % did one lap consume?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Around 28 %

@race-partners Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz Thanks. I was curious. I3 owner here too. Great driving man. Very smooth. Did you max out the speed on the straight?

@samfere30 Жыл бұрын

since this great experience do you find a solution to neutralize the power reduction?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

No, i think there is no solution

@jsr85 3 ай бұрын

you would test again in roller-mode.

@Stighiz 3 ай бұрын

I sold the car 1 year ago 😅

@CraigKeene Жыл бұрын

Any recommendations for tires on the 2016 EV Giga?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

@DiscoR53 Жыл бұрын

Wow that bad when you get passed by an i3.

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

😂

@Dennis_1337 Жыл бұрын

Which tires were on the car? Default 155 70 R19 ? I don't think so... 🤣

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

The stock i3s one. I think 175 front and 195 rear

@SirPablo2Pablo 5 ай бұрын

Top speed is 124 kph

@bobmac1970 Жыл бұрын

Did the battery reduce power at any point?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

Please read the Video description

@GiovanniEsposito5 Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz Translation in the description is really bad. You mean that just after 1.5 minutes on the track you had only half the power available? So basically 90HP for almost the whole lap? Why is this happening? Super early overheating? Of what exactly? Motor/inverter/batteries?

@Stighiz Жыл бұрын

@@GiovanniEsposito5 si esatto, alla curva Sabine Schmitz ha gia ridotto la potenza. Causa temperaura eccessiva immagino.

@GiovanniEsposito5 Жыл бұрын

@@Stighiz This is really bad, no one really pointed out before how soon it overheats if driven sportly. I'll have to really try one to see if I can live with this with my type of driving...

@allinTesla22 Жыл бұрын

@@GiovanniEsposito5 I tried Hungaroring with an i3 (S software), time was 2:50 vs 2:30 in a 2l diesel 3er series e46(150hp). Really boring after just 1.5min, like Dacia spring boring. On street never had heat issues with limit.