GTI_CHHA Thank you!

ferrari430fan hmmm, interesting. thanks for the info.

Valve rattle for 3.8k is a freaking shame..

Cüniii K Thank you very much

Javed Mower Thank you. This is a difficult question to answer because it’s very subjective. To me it is very nice and tame in comfort mode but my wife still thinks it’s loud, especially when I cold start it in the garage. You can drive it easy and it’s not too loud but still has a nice sound if you ask me. I do drive in sport+ a lot because it sounds so good but almost never with the valves wide open. Good luck!

steven johnson Yes it would! Thanks for watching.

I have the same problem. Its a realy loud vibration-sound from the backseatfloor. What's strange is that it came after 2 months driving.

+TURBO CHARGER Yes, with additional mods there is power to be made. The downpipe alone is making decent gains I'm told.

My Garage Tv Sure , the factory leaves a lot for improvement. Those three parts that I mentioned gives a very decent increase in power without a big bugdet and does negligible harm to the engine.

Rob Weber Thanks. I’m glad it was helpful.

Simon Jones Yes, slightly just under 3k. But I never drive in comfort mode! The sound is too good and even on the fwy, I much prefer the throttle response in Sport or S+ than comfort mode. Honestly, even on a long 6hr fwy drive I never once even noticed the drone. Only if I really look for it and even then, it’s very slight.

Thanks - I do stick it in comfort a bit. Baby in the back, she likes to sleep. So on a long drive if we take the M2, I couldn't have any drone. But based on that feedback, I will give it a try! Thanks again. BMW owe you some commission.

Brad Copland i'm sorry to say that I have not found a fix. In the big scheme of things it shouldn't be a big deal but it bothers me every time. In addition to that I have a rattle on the rear deck lid of my car now that's also driving me crazy. Please let me know what you end up doing or if you find a fix. Thanks for watching!

john whitehead Thanks for watching

Congrats on the car! The diffuser is awesome looking. I haven't decided which direction I want to go with all the carbon fiber stuff. I'm waiting to see what all comes out....

o ex d ki um e🏢🏢🌃🏠🏠🏰🏡🌅🔢

mitoda Thank you. Yes, it does drone slightly around 3k rpm but not too bad and has gotten better with time. Thanks for watching!

been also debating putting an aftermarket exhaust. I completely agree with you I would probably do the M performance because of the warranty and resale value, but can't ignore that sweet looking akrapovic exhaust, it's just pure engineering porn!

I love it 50% of the time but the highway drone is borderline making me want to go back to stock. Granted i have the afe catted downpipe which is more important than the catback exhaust to me.

Luis Portilla I don’t have any experience with Dinan. I know they are good products but I couldn’t tell you which is better. Good luck with your decision.

closes brother

@@jhptsdx6275 Thanks, do you know why it is suggested to use ope valve on track course only?

Because the pops and bangs are too higher decibel, it's not performance related@@lucguenette7534

Because the loud pops and bangs are above legal sound limit, it's not performance related@@lucguenette7534

I was able to get mine fixed under warranty at the dealer. It ended up much better, but not 100% without rattles. I’ve since sold the car so I don’t have any other info to give you. Best of luck.

Art Sal Extremely happy. I highly recommend this car! Thanks for watching!

Sheng Shi No, I have never had that happen but I did read of someone else that did. I don't know if they found the cause. Sorry to not be more help.

All right, thank you buddy, I am really appreciated.

This is a common issue. BMW will tell you it's "normal" for the bluetooth controller to turn off with RF interference. We've had our MPE system replaced completely and the second unit did the same thing. Don't waste your money.

Yeah, about a month ago the valves stated closing (from track mode) without any input from me on the controller. Took it back to BMW last week. They're clueless. They said they needed to check with the engineers in Germany. I will follow up with them this week. This issue, in combination with the cold start rattle, is too much. I will push them to refund the $ and put the stock exhaust back on. Then, I'll likely purchase the Dinan exhasut.

Oscar Revolorio talking to my dealer tomorrow about a possible warranty claim. But from what I've read about the new updated exhaust which has a button in the trunk that you have to push each time you start the car to use the Bluetooth controller, I don't know if I want to change it. I'll see which way this goes and try to do an update to this video.

Best of luck! Again great video!! Thanks! Keep us posted!

My Garage Tv Hello. Would like to know what was the findings from your dealer. What did they say about the exhaust vibrating? I forgot to mention that when I took mine to the dealership they told me "it is normal" because "it is basically a race car" but I don't believe their reasoning. Thank you.

Tomasz Woźniak Wow! I might have to check that out. Thanks!

Catback exhuast will not gain any noticable power. Just isn't physically possible.

how does akrapovic does that ? www.akrapovic.com/#!/car/product/sports%20coupe/16911?brandId=19&modelId=796&yearId=4592

jgr Yes on turbo cars it's very possible and common

If the oem pipes are very small it's even bigger increase

Zhar nadir I've had it about three months and yes, everyday I have off work, I look for excuses to drive it. I've had many cars in my life and this one is not the best but ranks very high. I really do love it! If you saw the car review I did you'll see how much I enjoy it. Thanks for watching!

Joe Lagostino Thanks man!

bongmistt Sorry but I don't know. I'm 5'8 and the car fits me perfect.

you can use the bluetooth to open in any mode

+vincealinceable When I bought my car the exhaust wasn't available yet. It's cheaper to buy it yourself but then you have to pay to have it installed.

My Garage Tv gotcha thanks man, keep up the great videos

mrwhiffle Thanks! Are you talking about the coilovers?

My Garage Tv yeah, the m sport coilovers.

I'll see what I can do....

Wow, thanks for the comment! That's unfortunate to hear. I will be looking into it for sure. Thanks for watching!

2016 M2 MG MT owner here, same issue for me with the MPE here except I got 4 Titanium tips, didn't go for carbon fiber ones. Taken it to the dealer and they say it's a loose bolt issue, with new bolts the ticking noise is gone during cold starts and exhaust actually has less of a drone around 3k rpm! Best MPE review I've seen anywhere BTW, awesome job!

noiox8 This is encouraging! I was beginning to think I had to live with the vibration. Do you happen to remember which bolts were the problem? Thank you for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

Hi noiox8, same here with the vibration. If you know which bolts were the problem please us know. I want to get rid of this as well. Also, did you try a cold start with open flaps? I think the vibration is less or I cannot hear it because it is just LOUD...

Amir Sadeghi Not if it’s installed properly. It never effected the drive on mine but after being adjusted by the dealer it has almost no vibration even during start up. At this point I would highly recommend it. Just make sure you test it after install. Congrats it’s an awesome car!

CAN you upgrade at BMW? I thought it was from-the-factory upgrade only, and once you bought it, it's too late.

Florian Yep, turns out it's a common problem.

tyau1234 No. I was 100% all in on the M2. Watch my M2 video if you want to see why. I love the driving dynamics of this car!

My Garage Tv you made a good choice. The M2 has its own characteristic, and will be an enthusiasts car choice. The M4 doesn't seem as special

GeNuiNe212 I also had an M235i with the MPE. On the M2 the MPE works exactly like the one on your car with the changes in sound in sport and sport plus. With the Bluetooth controller and opening the valves it makes sport and sport plus even louder. So you end up with 6 total sound positions instead of 3. Good luck with your M2 and thanks for watching!

Ahh perfect! thats what I wanted to hear. I drove the M2 Performance at an event, but I couldnt find the remote haha. If its too quite I'll have to go for a downpipe :D

It gets pretty loud with the valves open. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Great info. Thanks for sharing!

Brad Copland Hey guys, you might know it already: there is a new version of the MPE which is fixing the rattle. I am in Germany and asked for a replacement. You should do the same. The issue is known at the headquarters in Munich

Thanks for the message. Do you know if it's a kit designed to fix the rattle in installed exhaust systems or if it's a new or redesigned system?

It is a new redesigned system. No kit available AFAIK. FYI: I received a pleasant call from my dealer today and he told me that they have ordered a full new system for me. It is a warranty case so 0 costs for the customer. Will let you know if I notice any other difference after the replacement

Sounds good. Thanks.

After. It can be installed at the port or you can purchase it later and have it installed on your own. I did the ladder so I would have the original exhaust as well.

+Art Sal Thank you man, appreciate it!

+Tshiamo Setshedi Thanks I hope so!

Sport and Sport + both change and increase the sound but the bluetooth controller opens the butterflies fully into track/race mode. Sport is louder and sport + adds more of the burbles. Everything is the same with the butterflies open except louder. There are a lot of combinations and possibilities. The sport/sport + also change the throttle response significantly. I prefer sport/sport + with the butterfly closed for most driving.

H1delta As far as I know it only makes it louder but some have said there is a performance increase. I can not really tell a difference except for the awesome sound! Thanks for watching!

I've owned over 50 cars in my life time & I know that factory installed options are better than when it's installed by the dealer. The few quirks you have on this car proves my point. I had the 30,000 mile service on my 2013 M3 a couple of months ago & I told the service writer that my front end was out of align. I got the car back & it stated on the WO that the alignment was fine. I knew better so when I bought new tires, I took it to an alignment specialist and their computer indicated all 4 wheels were out of align. My 2017 M2 is arriving in November & the first thing I'll do is have the alignment checked out at my expense. It'll be cheaper than having the tires wear out prematurely. Since it won't make it go faster, I'll stick with the stock exhaust & save $3k to $4k. Dealer mechanics are not nearly as good as factory mechanics, especially ///M mechanics.

Also, why call it performance exhaust when it apparently does not increase the horsepower or make it go faster? They should call it louder sound exhaust because that's all it does. When I bought my 2013, I added the competition package which included dynamic damper control, 19" alloy Y-spoke wheels, and it also lowered the car. That was a $2,500 option and it was/is worth every penny and it was done at the factory. Mind you, I'm not complaining and I'm sure the M2 will be great when it arrives next month. But if you're going to label something "performance", make it perform.

H1delta lol not a bad point

Levente Deli no, none.

@@justin.bergmann strange. lot of people have this issue. have you heard about it?

@@justin.bergmann how many miles you have in your car with this exhaust?

Levente Deli Sorry I don’t have the car any longer.

Diffusor :D It's called diffusor

SilverWave I'm considering it but then I think the car needs more carbon to balance it out.

No, unfortunately I've found out it is a very common problem. As a matter of fact, it seems like everyone with this exhaust suffers from the same problem which leads me to question that its a problem with the overall design. I haven't found a solution yet but if I do I will make a follow up video of how to fix it. Thanks for watching!

Felix Castillo That's not cheap! But 450hp would be a beast.

Haha I concur

DC5dotty Yes the dealer was able to mostly fix it.

SuburbVids You weren't paying close enough attention. One of the points has two parts...😉

CrispCarGuru That's true. Thanks!

2HP? On japanese cars like Silvia and WRX the catback can gain 25+ HP because the oem pipe is like 25cm :)

Downpipe will help response and turbo spool

No, unfortunately I haven't. It seems to be a common issue with the exhaust. No one seems to know a fix but I'm still looking into it.

hey just wanted to let you know they stopped production of the MPE for the M2 because of this exact issue, and they are designing a new one. I would contact your dealership and see if there will be a buy back or exchange policy.

Thank you. I actually just read about that. I will be contacting BMW.

I just ordered a M2 with MPE, will be here in mid July. Do you have a link you can share about the newly designed MPE ? If this is true hopefully I can avoid these issues.

it sounds like an exotic, better than mustangs

Dario Milardovic I disagree but thanks for watching.

Dario Milardovic As a previous 370Z owner, I’m very curious at comparing those 2 cars. Will pick up my M2 in few days.