The BIG Lie About Frozen Shoulders We See Again & Again

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The BIG Lie About Frozen Shoulders We See Again & Again
Bob and Brad discuss the stages of frozen shoulder, from freezing to thawing. They talk about what each stage can feel like and how long each stage can last. There are common misconceptions about frozen shoulder and they are brought to light in this video.
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@YogiRed 3 жыл бұрын

I tried all the quick fixes and nothing helped. The only thing that helped me was stretching every day for a long time plus hot/cold showers. Took me about a year to feel "normal" again. For those struggling with this, my heart goes out to you. Don't give up stretching everyday!

@vangogo6819 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, I am struggling with this and get so discouraged, your words give me encouragement.

@YogiRed 3 жыл бұрын

@@vangogo6819 Keep at it!! I felt like it was never going away. Be patient with it but keep stretching. If one day you just simply can't move, it's ok rest up. Then try again when you're ready. You can do this! One step at a time as cliche as it sounds, but true.

@vangogo6819 3 жыл бұрын

@@YogiRed Thank you, I will!😊🤗

@1970Louby 3 жыл бұрын

There are no 'quick fixes'. I've had FS before in my right shoulder and now have it in my left. It took 18months - 2 years for my right FS to recover. Realistically I know what to expect. There are techniques to help relieve the pain, but no 'cure' or quick fixes at all.

@TheM77marz 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. It’s hard for me to pick up my 2 year old. Feel like my arm is gonna snap when I pick her up. I been lifting very little, 10lb dumbbells, stretching, ect. It really sucks. I pitched for so many years I guess that my shoulder is Worn down. Everytime it seems to loosen up a bit it comes back tight a couple days later

@Puzzledrev Жыл бұрын

My shoulder was frozen after an injury, and the pain was incredible if I moved even the tiniest bit. A wonderful physiotherapist got me through it. It took months, but finally I regained full range of motion and was pain free. I wish everyone had access to a physiotherapist. Thanks for helping those who don't.

@paisleyplaid4074 2 ай бұрын

Same with me....even slight movements were horrendouslybpainful . I injured it exercising. I had a steroid shot and PT...after 5 to 6 months. Finally I'm back ton95%.

@deepapo Жыл бұрын

I'm probably at the last stage of Frozen Shoulder, it was terrible. The real question is what causes and how we can prevent it?

@livewithaffection6905 2 ай бұрын

According to the Medical Medium, it is caused by shingles virus.

@lynnmitch 3 жыл бұрын

Your series has been so timely for me as I've been going through impingement that's gotten less painful but followed by frozen shoulder. I've watched all your videos and am following your recommended exercises and I can see small improvement every day. Thanks so much!!

@randomlisa1958 7 ай бұрын

I’m on my 6 month and feel like a permanent Charlie horse, the constant throbbing pain can’t even get out of bed without pain to the point of dizziness and nausea made me not want to eat let alone laying down without extreme pain I pray everyone get better soon 😢❤

@addk3 4 ай бұрын

I'm in my 6th month with a frozen shoulder now...active climber - no idea how this hit me. Is it getting better yours?

@eaglephin 3 жыл бұрын

I partially tore my rotator cuff and didn't seek medical attention. I did the wrong thing and put my arm in a sling and babied it. A few weeks later my shoulder was freezing and I was in extraordinary pain and couldn't find a comfortable position to sleep. The orthopedic surgeon recommended surgery but wanted me to do physical therapy ahead of the surgery. After two weeks of therapy I felt much better and the doctor recommended I continue with therapy to see how much improvement I would have. I never ended up having the surgery and my shoulder is pretty good. I'd rate it 90-95%.

@GospelOfTimothy 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any pain even a one or two?

@janetroy4469 2 жыл бұрын

I've had a frozen shoulder 2 years ago, I measured the whole thing by the amount of time I wasn't able to tie my bra, which was exactly 1 year. I had a cortisone shot once it began to thaw at the 9 month mark and it improved my mobility very quickly. I'm now 5.5 months into my second shoulder. Had 2 cortisone shots at the beginning of the inflamed period and am now about 60-70 % thawed. expect to be able to tie my bra in a couple more months. 53 years old, no diabetes, thyroid, or injuries. Thank you for your advice, tips and demonstrations, you guys have been a tremendous help.

@teresasugden466 2 жыл бұрын

Me too, both shoulders at about same age. Now I broke my elbow!!! Not as much pain, but it's m 60, not 16 and the range of motion to s slowly coming back.

@looneyville3 Жыл бұрын

@NRG for me, it was 9 months.

@p.mbhoendie4203 Жыл бұрын

Did the injection hurt?

@vflytrap7158 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got frozen shoulder for the second time. It was torture the first time when it lasted for two years. I’m considering getting the needle this time. Can you tell me if it hurts to get it?

@myleskennedy7733 Жыл бұрын

@@p.mbhoendie4203 hurt less than the pain of the frozen shoulder

@ajcics 3 жыл бұрын

I've been telling this to my patients for years. Thank you for being honest

@BryanWellsLordAndMaster 3 жыл бұрын

I can understand why ppl may watch those shady videos; this frozen shoulder thing is PAINFUL with a capital PAINFUL.

@michaelt3779 3 жыл бұрын

yeah it really is. I had it in my right arm for 2 years before i had enough and did surgery. It wasn't bad the summer but winter was rough. Now i got it in my left arm and being much more aggressive. Getting surgery to have it fixed early because i don't want to go through that again.

@jamesmatheson5813 3 жыл бұрын

I hope we can test getting a tube with blood and heating up the tube making the blood hotter I believe frozen shoulder is blood circulation I believe hotter blood will improve circulation I have seen people who had blood clots and the way they walk looks like they have frozen body They look like their entire body feels like frozen shoulder I believe heating the blood in the shoulder is the answer

@calisongbird 2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesmatheson5813 that was a really dumb and uneducated comment. Please stop.

@freden9234 5 ай бұрын

I’ve been through it twice and can easily say it was the most painful thing I’ve EVER experienced, and I’ve been through some severe accidents and multiple surgeries. It is known to be one of the most painful conditions one can have. Yes-that is why (along with the disability of not being able to use the affected arm) is why people are desperate for a quick fix. It’s miserable!

@meganr9280 Ай бұрын

@@jamesmatheson5813maybe this is why sauna helps me. Heats everything up and helps with range of motion

@dartagnantaft5918 3 жыл бұрын

I'm getting close to the two year point and it is getting better. Stretching and excersize seems to help. So from my experience your video is spot on.

@muju969 3 жыл бұрын

Your exercises for recovery are the best. You guys gave me back a great range of movement. I share your methods with everyone in need. YOU ARE THE BEST PHYSICAL THERAPISTS. FULL STOP. Thanks B&B, life changing and affirming. Xx

@christasmith5018 3 жыл бұрын

I had frozen shoulder in my right shoulder and it was so painful. If I accidentally tried to pull or push something I would get horrible pain in my shoulder. I went to the physiotherapist and that helped. Eventually, after a couple years, the pain and stiffness went away on its own.

@KristiBranstetter 3 жыл бұрын

I had frozen shoulder in my left shoulder in 2019. I now have it in my right shoulder. I have seen those videos and shook my head.

@bailey78 10 ай бұрын

I was just diagnosed with adhesive capsulitis in my right shoulder. I have spent the last thirty minutes on KZfaq looking for the best way to relieve it. So far you guys have had the best and clearist information on the subject. Looks like a lot of self induced physical therapy is in my future.

@RiversCuomo-cv8mu 9 ай бұрын

I went to a private clinic and paid £250 for an ultra sound guided steroid injection. It was better within a week. After a couple of months I had to go back for a second injection but at least I could sleep and it released my arm.

@melondykillian1571 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a shoulder routine & take us through it, so we can watch it like a workout video.

@calisongbird 2 жыл бұрын

They have videos on their website, they said at the end. But the exercises are mix and match depending on your needs and abilities. They can’t just make a single one-size-fits-all routine for everyone because everyone’s needs are different. You can likely do more damage doing an exercise that’s not right for you.

@dflagah2288 6 ай бұрын

ive had frozen shoulder for 2 years....finaly its coming right almost full movement and not much pain, i just put up with it waited and nows it nearly back to normal.....these guys are correct no miracle fix just time needed

@BobandBrad 6 ай бұрын

Thank you...

@drmelissawest 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this video so much. I have had frozen shoulder on my left shoulder about 3 or 4 years ago and now frozen shoulder on my right shoulder. My left shoulder recovered exactly the way you described. I am currently in the painful freezing stage on my right shoulder. What has been incredibly disheartening each time is the number of therapeutic professionals who are willing to treat you and say that they can cure you if you part with your money each week. This has happened to me both times. When the shoulder doesn't start moving, they say it is my fault, that frozen shoulder isn't a real thing. I have been in the movement industry as a fitness instructor, pilates instructor and yoga instructor for over 20 years. Like you it is disheartening to see professionals claim to have a cure and make the individual at fault for something that is incredibly common and well documented. For me, this video increased your credibility. Thank you.

@Nidge. 2 жыл бұрын

Im 45 year old male my left shoulder froze first now the right shoulder im 2half yrs in pain any advice really appreciate any tips

@lesliewyatt4188 6 ай бұрын

I agree.

@lesliewyatt4188 6 ай бұрын

I am suffering now. How are you now?

@NekonataVirino 3 жыл бұрын

I had a frozen shoulder which was excruciating - my gp told me it could take up to two years to improve and i might need surgery - which given i use sticks to walk was a compete nightmare. After a lot of research i ended up doing the arms hanging while bent over and gentle swing style exercises three or four times a day and got really good results - quite a bit of relief in a few weeks and mostly recovered motion/freedom from pain in slightly less than three months

@stenionet 2 жыл бұрын

"arms hanging" . Can you talk more about this?

@virangpatel5867 2 жыл бұрын

Can you share any video links

@MinaMina-gs5uo Жыл бұрын

@@stenionet it’s called Pendulum arm exercises. Many videos but here’s one from them: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNNgiL1-nJPdc6s.html

@MinaMina-gs5uo Жыл бұрын

@@virangpatel5867 it’s called Pendulum arm exercises. Many videos but here’s one from them: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNNgiL1-nJPdc6s.html

@ZOMOGOD Жыл бұрын

@@stenionet pendulum hanging I'm guessing

@kelleycrockett3387 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you this gave me hope. I’m in the thawing phase but this started in April (welcome to my Covid fun) I’ve done physical therapy but really I’m using bands at home now to stretch and I’m worried about weakness.

@glweeks 3 жыл бұрын

Mine started in April of 2019 and I still have limited range of motion and pain. I was just doing light stretching while standing and felt a slight twinge. That started the long road of exactly what they explained in the video. I’ve had 3 injections, over 9-12 months, but decided to just deal with it since I didn’t want too many of them. My Dr just said he couldn’t “go in” with it so inflamed. I’m glad to hear I still might get back to normal on its own. Thank you for the information!

@teresagiardinelli1083 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being truthful and dispel the myths.

@AscensionDreamer 3 жыл бұрын

I had frozen shoulder about 5 years ago and was treated by an osteopath who specialized in this condition. It still took about a full two years to get most of my mobility back - that was with regular treatment and doing special exercises daily. I still have a bit of limitation, but for the most part, it's gone.

@ConstantineAndreas 3 жыл бұрын

After three years in the frozen phase, I needed surgery to correct both shoulders. They were severely frozen. The surgeon said it would never thaw on its own. Two years later I'm still rehabbing, still pain in the left. ROM is back at least, but there were a lot of adhesions on the surrounding tissue and it still needs rehab. Oh well. It'll be five years having this problem in June 2021. This has been extremely difficult to live with. My take on my problem? It's genetic (runs in my family) and a high-sugar diet probably didn't help my cause. If you're one of those people who never "thaws" and needs surgeries like me, my suggestion is to get the surgery and then rehab for over a year before trying to return to activities. I went back to golf too quickly, suffered an aggravation, and 16 months later, I'm still in pain. Good luck.

@mikosdanes 3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. With a physical therapist 2-3 times a week and doing exercises at home.. it took the better part of a year to get most of my mobility back.

@Afaithfulmommy 3 жыл бұрын

Same for me. About a year to get most mobility back. Add more time to get back to "normal". It was awful.

@jonathanhalloran5350 3 жыл бұрын

How do you afford physio 2-3 times a week!?!? :O

@obergssin 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know what to do when my frozen shoulder started. Unfortunately the first few weeks all the research I did on YT recommended lots of stretching and even hanging from a bar with the weight of your body. This for me we a BIG mistake. I learned later that you shouldn’t do any kind of aggressive stretching until the shoulder is in the third stage of unfreezing. Only perhaps very gentle ones and not into a lot of pain. Also I found out later that if there is no direct cause of your frozen shoulder (idiopathic) … 95% of those will returned to normal on their own with no treatment of any kind. It was a bit late for you but I stopped my exercises right away and am now concentrating on long hot showers, gently movement, some Advil every day and magnesium before I go to bed, I think I hurt myself pretty badly with all that I did at the beginning but I”m hoping it will resolve itself, I’m now about 8 weeks in to the freezing part and it’s definitely getting stiffer. I’m going to just take it very easy and wait till the third stage before any therapy. If I remember I’ll come back and do an update on any progress …. Good luck everybody …

@obergssin 2 жыл бұрын

Update: A year after the initial onset of FS I am now pretty well completely resolved. I learned a lot about FS and made a blog post about it. If you search on the internet it’s called My Frozen Shoulder Experience.

@sinta5660 Ай бұрын

Hi, do you have a link for it? Thanks

@pvb31 Жыл бұрын

After watching your frozen shoulder videos, I started to do the stretches you recommended. The 2nd day things started to move.. popping and I could feel the muscle groups that were causing the problem. I didn't miraculously heal, but I did immediately realize that there was hope!!! I knew that if I followed your advice, that I could fix this shoulder myself! After three weeks of doing the exercises and stretching for just a few minutes a day, my shoulder is 60% improved and I'm so very thankful for what you guys have done to help me. Thank you Bob and Brad. I was even at deer camp last week telling my friends about the Two Most Famous Physical Therapists On The Internet... as I was hanging from a log rafter doing my stretches. ...thanks you guys!!!

@derrick211000 4 ай бұрын

First 2min perfectly explained my symptoms. Love it when the universe aligns like this.

@nesheiwg 4 ай бұрын

Dealing with a freezing shoulder. I am at week 5 post op rotator cuff surgery. Physical therapy hurts and shoulder is very sore. Like you said, this will take time. Thank you for speaking the facts.

@acpliego 2 жыл бұрын

This was a very good video exposing some titles and informing, thank you very much.

@easternsecrecy9777 3 жыл бұрын

I had it in both shoulders. Right side got better but the left side needed surgery. We discovered I had a bone spur that caused tons of scar tissue and all the stretches in the world would not have helped. I have full range of movement now YAY. Surgery was only half of it, though. PT is what made me 100% well. I had a fabulous therapist who was tough but it was so worth it.

@ashrafulnawaj8202 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thanks bob and Brad❣️

@christierella 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been in pain for 2 years, it has gotten slightly better, but not by much. I’ve went through physical therapy, this is excruciating. It happened after a rotator cuff injury.

@judyconrad8903 3 жыл бұрын

Heard of many frozen shoulders,, since I’m a exercise instructor. Bob and Brad your the best💕

@theelephant2887 2 жыл бұрын

Got it in both shoulders at the same time. Right side went away by itself after about 6 months. Left side still frozen after a year and a half. Started stretching 3 weeks ago. Will see how much longer it takes

@godschild5824 2 жыл бұрын

I had a sad outcome on a frozen shoulder - I tried everything to get the shoulder mobile and nothing worked so I recommended that the person go to one of the orthos I worked with whom I had lots of confidence in to get mobilized under anesthesia and he did. What was less known is this man was so osteoporitic when he tried to mobilize him he broke the shaft of the humerus - I felt so bad for the man and me for suggesting it

@elizabetharnold5849 3 жыл бұрын

Thank God for you two!

@spaideman7850 2 жыл бұрын

my wife's 2-3 years of frozen shoulder was fixed by fixing her sitting ergonomics. she had gone thru tons of therapy/tcm/massage, but her pain recurs. until one day i noticed how she 'leans forward' sitting style(supporting her head with her hand and elbow) while having hours of meetings thru her laptops.

@dixieh5555 3 жыл бұрын

I was hopeful from your video on the exercises to recover in a couple of months but now I realize that is unrealistic. Thank you for telling us the truth about it. It will just take me longer to get better.

@karensmith7738 3 жыл бұрын

Like a lot of people here I've had it in my left shoulder for 3 years, the pain has now gone mostly but some limited movement still and I have had it in my right shoulder for the last 18 months, still in the painful phase. One of the most painful things you can go through, especially at night - a good 8/10 on the pain threshold.

@pietclassens5704 2 жыл бұрын

Try this one for a big lie! Daily swim approx 500 mtr breast stroke. And see how your shoulder feels after a month. Had a frozen shoulder and couldn't lift my arm more than 30 degrees. After a week could lift my arm to shoulder height. Could raise my arm fully after a month. I had to cancel my appointments with physio, shoulder surgeon, etc. I am not a health professional and cannot give medical advice but this helped me.

@jl3585 Жыл бұрын

Cortisone injection at the orthopedic surgeon's office fixed me instantly... after the shot since the pain will dissipate, be sure to stretch and move and exercise the shoulders! That's my undoctorly personal advice from personal experience.

@freden9234 5 ай бұрын

Sorry, but if the cortisone shot fixed you “instantly,” then you didn’t have frozen shoulder. This was pointed out early in the video.

@demetriusnetwork 3 жыл бұрын

The best advice I received regarding a frozen shoulder injury I received came from this channel. Bob and Brad passed along a surgeon's suggestion that I hang from a chin up bar. It worked!! Got full range of back!! Two years is about right. Still have some pain in various positions but I'm so thankful for the advice. 🙌🏾

@caravelleberecc2014 3 жыл бұрын

Please tell me you only did this in the thawing phase?? 😨😰😱

@KawRider1 Жыл бұрын

Hanging from a pull up bar was very painful at first, did it with partial weight/assistance from bands (stepped on band). After about 3 weeks I went smaller and smaller with the band. Now I hang 3-5 times a week (3 times per hang, 45 seconds or so). No band now. Really helps to improve shoulder mobility. Still not super comfortable, but I’m hoping it will get easier with time (about 4 months into it).

@philochristos 2 жыл бұрын

I"ve had adhesive capsulitis in both shoulders for nearly ten years now. Most of the time, it's just a little pain if I lift my arm the wrong way or reach behind my back or something. But one time about five years ago, it got so bad in my right arm that I could hardly move it at all, and I had to see a doctor. Now my left shoulder seems to be headed in that direction. It sucks.

@3totoone 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the "thawing" phase now. This whole ordeal hit me in July of last year. I was nearly floored when my Dr. told me how long it was going to take to self correct. I'm just over 8 months into this. It was diagnosed as a pinched nerve a couple months in. I was RX'd an anti-inflammatory for a couple months, (IB wasn't cutting it), and that probably helped speed things along, until I went in for my yearly check-up, where I was told it was frozen shoulder. Husband had shoulder surgery a few months back so I started following his post surgery PT exercises at home. I think it helped me tremendously. I have almost no pain and around 75% range of motion at this time. If you're experiencing this... it DOES get better and there are ways to ease that pain. Don't hesitate to seek help from your Dr.

@BobandBrad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. Brad

@STate-lt8xq 3 жыл бұрын

Have had this adhesive capsulitis for 7 years now. Had cortisone shots and surgery after first year. I’m guessing I just helped the osteo buy a new car... and I didn’t even get to see it! 🤷🏻‍♀️

@saionji7760 8 ай бұрын

This is the second time after years that I am experiencing it and I just want to know what triggers it. It is really very frustrating. Thank you for making this educational video.

@djyc1 3 жыл бұрын

I'm doing my final degree project on this pathology ! I will listen carefully !

@suegates6584 3 жыл бұрын

My surgeon said it would resolve itself in under two years which it did. I was in so much pain I couldn’t possibly have done any stretching. Thanks for the video.

@caravelleberecc2014 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, stretching hard too early does not help speed things up, it sets you back. From what I’ve learnt serious stretching is only useful when you’re up to thawing. Gentle movements when you’re still in pain to keep things mobile is the way to go. It IS too painful to stretch isn’t it?

@lizb513 10 ай бұрын

Indeed it is! @@caravelleberecc2014

@ruthbiafora5443 3 жыл бұрын

Mine healed naturally!! I did get massages, PRP therapy, took Meloxicam and it went away after a year. Love you guys!

@parlaqtara6692 3 жыл бұрын

You took Meloxicam for a year?

@ruthbiafora5443 3 жыл бұрын

@@parlaqtara6692 Yes and happy to say my frozen shoulder is gone

@ckgonzales6743 2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever get the shot? I'm on meloxicam now and it doesn't seem to be helping at all. My doctor has suggested a cortisone shot but I'm too scared

@ruthbiafora5443 2 жыл бұрын

@@ckgonzales6743 no cortisone shot. You don’t need it. Do physical therapy every day and get deep massage on the shoulder mine healed in about 10 months.

@leroya160 Жыл бұрын

The surgeon told me I need to have Hydrodilation for my frozen shoulder then within a few hours have physical therapy then after a month of pt get surgery. What do you think? It's for a torn rotator cuff.

@orangedrone 3 жыл бұрын

I felt PT was just paying money for additional pain. I switched over to the do nothing method and it eventually went away.

@thesandman8989 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely true. There are a lot of side effects as well... I slept in a recliner for months. I used to be a stomach sleeper with my arms above my head and still can't do that. I did occupational therapy both times and it helps a lot (one shoulder about 2-3 years before the other froze). I would even say that 100% isn't even in 2 years and that some people only recover 80% and no more. It's been tough.

@thesandman8989 3 жыл бұрын

@@tracyvision thanks!

@c.r.sherman1795 10 ай бұрын

I had a procedure done called hydro dilatation yesterday and was given exercises to do every hour (while awake) for 3 days and then 3 times a day thereafter. I felt an immediate difference in the pain. There isn't any to speak of. And my motion has already increased from about 50% to 80%. I will keep you all posted on progress. I really respect you two guys but I think you should research this procedure.

@annawild7117 7 ай бұрын

I had this done to and worked, but two years on it has come back I will get this done again

@alainvosselman9960 4 ай бұрын

I got it from an accident. I was holding a doorknob behind my back as i slipped.. my arm got pulled to the back and pretty high. I felt a slight crack. It got inflamed and after i had serious trouble moving it as it was freezing. It's in frozen state currently for a week. Did many excersises for 2x 2 hours, two days, and i can do almost all motions but with only 75% power but hard to put my hand behind my back. It feels like it damages the front shoulder attachements. Hope this being lean for now will help get thru the thawing stage. Reliefed to hear that it actually *can* thaw. I feared for having to go see the butcher. Will your operation not prevent the self healing aspect of the condition later ?

@c.r.sherman1795 4 ай бұрын

No, it won't hurt self healing. I am still doing stretching exercises. So far, so good!

@user-du2ph6yz1x 3 ай бұрын

@@alainvosselman9960ç on in bloom🎉,

@takatsu5 3 жыл бұрын

My wife had frozen shoulder in both shoulders but it started at different times. She did exercises for one shoulder and it helped with range of motion after, but the exercises left her sore and not able to sleep so she quit. Both shoulders took about the same time to recover. Her dad had it too in his fifties. My wife was 50. The Japanese call it 五十肩(50 shoulder) because it is something a lot of them get in their 50s. What I read about it is if you treat with PT it lasts about 24 months and if you do nothing it lasts about 2 years. The only 60 second cure is a shot of whiskey.

@recoverykonie407 3 жыл бұрын

I will say the strengthening exercises have kept me from hurting my arm every week when I do simple tasks that "jarr or jam" my arm that used to send me into tears

@sspicer549 2 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% LOL. I'm convinced PT caused my shoulder to take longer to freeze! Just a theory but this second shoulder I'm just going to let it go at it's own speed.

@j.777hemi2 14 күн бұрын

Or a punch from my brother!

@thestylesworld 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Does shoulder corticosteroid injection plays any role to resolve shoulder capsulitis early?

@tiffanygodwin2729 3 жыл бұрын

Do you guys have a video with exercises for FS prevention? I watched a friend go through this and I definitely do not want to develop this painful condition!

@thehealthyrebel 3 жыл бұрын

I love this channel and theme song. Great topic. Never heard of Frozen shoulder before.

@TomatoOnPita 3 жыл бұрын

The song should be nominated for a grammy

@karenbrown5177 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had never heard of it. It hurts, arthritis, bone spur, and a former tear. Ugh.

@thehealthyrebel 3 жыл бұрын

@@karenbrown5177 Omg really? That's a lot to take in. Wishing you well, and hoping for speedy recovery and better days.

@barbieburton1665 2 ай бұрын

I just found out I have frozen shoulder but my neck is affected and all the way down my left arm and fatty part of my hand below the thumb area. Can a frozen shoulder do all that? When it first started, I thought I was having a heart attack because of the arm pain and lack of mobility. I called my doctor and she ordered X-rays and they showed my ball joint in my shoulder was not rotating. Very painful, but not as painful as kidney stones. Thank you for the free helpful videos and pass. I’m 70 and still working (inflation) ugh so I need to stay healthy.

@BobandBrad 2 ай бұрын

Sorry you are having to go through all this! Here are some more videos that may be helpful: www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad/search?query=frozen%20shoulder

@devoid24 3 жыл бұрын

my wife has this going on, and i feel so helpless. she is in pain, and there is nothing i can do to help her.... it totally sucks to watch how this crap issue is just grinding down her spirits, its frigging heart breaking, and i feel like a useless idiot because there is nothing i can do, other than trying to lift her spirits... it wakes her up all night, hurts when she moves her arm in certain directions... i wouldnt wish this on my worst enemy. Ive had it twice, with the worse one last 8 months. I can deal with pain, its the lack of sleep when you move in the night and the pain bolts you awake that really got me. But to see my wife suffering, that kills me, breaks my heart. I wish i wasnt so damn useless, If i could take her pain, id do it without hesitation. Anyway, from every thing im reading here, forget PT, do your exercises after a nice hot shower, and just keep at it, the last phase of this horrible affliction is it releases. Right?

@Mikeythepikey101 2 жыл бұрын

I feel you and your wife’s pain. I’ve had it for a year and it got progressively worse. Last night I did something in my sleep and jumped out of bed in the worst pain I’ve ever experienced. Almost brought me to tears and I’m a 47 year old man. Keep up the gentle exercises. I’m going in for a steroid injection so we’ll see how that goes.

@michellestevens2454 3 жыл бұрын

Living through my second frozen shoulder now. The first was excruciating I was in pain for a year. I mean it hurt all of the time and worse at night. I tell people that it was like being in labor for 6 months straight.Took about 2 1/2 years to resolve. The second one I had learned a few tricks. I used the heating pad during the day and in the evening while using my neck stretcher. Taking extra magnesium to help the cramping during the freezing stage, taking Irwin Naturals whole body Turmeric , and taking extra MSM and Boswellia serrated. I received a cortisone shot earlier in the course of the freezing and had acupuncture in my stomach as it really helped the first time. One more thing that helps has been having helichrysum oil combined with frankincense rubbed on my shoulder followed by diclofenac, Voltaren, gel. And finally, going keto seemed to dial the pain way back this time. These things worked for me. I hope they can help anyone else dealing with this.

@mohamedorayith4626 3 жыл бұрын

God bless you for providing these life saver secrets for free

@dellajean4876 3 жыл бұрын

I am going to try keto

@cindyaho7757 3 жыл бұрын

Going through menopause?

@elizabethwilk9615 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you I on my second one 😞🙄

@calisongbird 2 жыл бұрын

@@dellajean4876 keto for frozen shoulder?? 😂😂😂

@glenngazmen4049 9 ай бұрын

Good Day! Bod & Brad from Manila Phillipines, I always watched your videos cause i had a frozen shoulder. I would like to ask a question about push up is that ok to do? Thank you so much and and God Bless

@sspicer549 2 жыл бұрын

10 months to freeze! Unbelievable pain for last 4 months straight and no sleep. It took 2+ years to get about 75% recovery. Now on my second shoulder. I'm not doing any PT this time, I think it caused it to take longer to freeze in my case. In the freezing stage I don't think there is anything that will help. After frozen and in unfreezing stage is when to try to help it along. Good luck to all.

@obergssin 2 жыл бұрын

You might find some info I wrote in a blog post about FS helpful. Search My Frozen Shoulder Experience

@jemimahobbs1545 3 жыл бұрын

Had a bad frozen shoulder 10 years ago EXCRUCIATING and couldn’t drive and couldn’t sleep so had keyhole surgery. Was a lot better instantly BUT had to do stretches every day and it HURT. Had another round in same shoulder last year. Not as bad and was sceptical but tried saline injections into shoulder and had a surprisingly good result. I still had to do a lot of physio every day to keep it mobile. I still do exercises every day a year later as I have limited movement in some actions. Don’t try and be a hero and get through it doing nothing the surgery and the saline were good depending on how bad it is and you heal a lot quicker. Saline procedure doesn’t hurt at all.

@coachdebby564 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your post. What is the formal title of the doctor you saw for a saline procedure? Did you go to a type of specialist? I would be willing to try a procedure like this...

@megazoned3973 3 жыл бұрын

I met this muscular physical therapist in a Tokyo bar. I told him my shoulder was frozen - in japan we say “40 shoulder”- I guess cause older folks get it. Anyway he grabbed my shoulder, squeezed and manipulated it for several minutes. I was drunk so it helped but I was sweating and almost in tears. the next day I woke up with total mobility. I was also getting cortisone shots which would help and massaging my arm which helped a bit. But his manipulation made a huge breakthrough. 4 years later I got it in my other shoulder. less painful and stiff but I hate it.

@st3giftsusedtobest3jewelle36 3 жыл бұрын

I've just been diagnosed with a frozen shoulder, soo painful when in the frozen stage, just coming out of it after one and half years. I do regular stretching for it, even though I have to peel myself off the ceiling after 😂 I now have complete sympathy with my mum who has had this for years! Same shoulder with both of us, the left.

@pureintentions7 3 жыл бұрын

Me too. Left.

@paulk468 3 ай бұрын

so diagnosed with a frozen shoulder 3 months after a car accident. Seeing a shoulder specialist for the shoulder and neck/spine specialist for my neck pain..The Shoulder specialist told me to start PT , which will happen in 2 weeks. The neck guy prescribed a steroid injection for my neck pain after an MRI. So 2 days after the steroid injection in my neck the frozen shoulder is much less frozen. I am happy but will do PT and start some of the excersies I have seen specifically fir frozen shoulder. Love you guys and thanks for the help

@RunemockSwagman 3 жыл бұрын

I was just diagnosed with frozen shoulder. I would love to see more information about this and with conjunction with going to physical therapy so I know what to expect and how to heal.

@Robnord1 3 жыл бұрын

Stick with B&B, they know their stuff. Even a *lot* of MD's don't know much. My (former) doctor said his mom had it, and got over it in a couple of months...like I had no excuse for spending 6 months in the freezing to frozen state B&B talked about.😒 It was slightly over 2 years to my complete healing and restored range of motion. During that time I had 2 surgeries because the pain was unbearable. Those were each followed by hundreds, and possibly thousands of hours of stretches and resistance exercises. All cases can be different. I hope yours goes well.

@mn1170 2 жыл бұрын

I just did the arm manipulation today. When nerve block wears off I’ll test it out. Got PT tomorrow

@craigwolfe2221 3 жыл бұрын

I got a bicep tendon that comes out and inflames. I have to put it back in constantly. how can I keep it in place.

@jamesgallant3553 3 жыл бұрын

When should you consider surgery? 10 years and I tried everything, possible some of the therapies you read during this video. I wasted a great deal of money. I appreciate your honesty, a rare commodity in this world.

@denisea3465 2 жыл бұрын

I am, ironically hypermobile, but in 2017 had a multiple-part proximal humerus fracture and during the healing process, my shoulder froze. My range of movement was only about 30% of what it was, and last November I got surgery which brought me up to 50% ROM. My orthopedic surgeon says that there is nothing physically with the bones and they way they healed (it was a major, multiple part fracture) that would prevent any movement in my shoulder, but I absolutely cannot move my arm above 90 degrees (I can't stand and make a T shape with my arms out to the sides). I also hear a terrible cracking sound with pain when I rotate my shoulder. Is there anything I can do to regain my ROM? Getting a new orthopedic surgeon is unfortunately not a possibility. Thank you so much for all your wonderful and informative videos that are entertaining at the same time!

@MrDayinthepark 2 жыл бұрын

People have a real problem with something that additional effort, cannot fix. It drives them crazy. My doctor told me I had to work the frozen shoulder, to "break up" the scar tissue. All BS. I've been in the thawing stage several months, and it's frustrating. But very slowly it is getting better. Many thanks for the truth bomb.

@Happytimes111 11 ай бұрын

I’m in the freezing stage and have been for 6 months. I’ve had physio and now awaiting a second lot of physio. Awaiting a cortisone jab too. So painful in rotation moves especially. I’m massaging myself deep into the painful areas, and do what exercises that I can bear, but most exercises are too painful to carry out. Help! 😢

@user-hh8bg4fy4t 20 күн бұрын

I had all stages, it lasted 20 months. My mobility came back around 95%, but no I'm started with the same symptoms on the same shoulder. Blessed I am that I have the tools and knowledge to take care of it, thamks to my Dr. Martinez and you guys.

@beatricefrask5230 Жыл бұрын

Well, Bob and Brad, do you think I should have surgurical release ? I am so scared and discouraged.

@fingsandstuff 3 жыл бұрын

Currently have frozen shoulder, which is a pain as I have started doing weights at the gym to try and put some muscle on my skinny frame. I think I am at the thawing stage. But the restricted movement makes gym work difficult. I sometimes try to force it, but, yeah. not a good idea.

@frabber321 3 жыл бұрын

I had frozen shoulder after an iceskating accident. The therapist did all sorts of painfull stretches which hurted alot and didn't improve anything. After a couple of months I ended that. Finally after one year or so it healed itself, full range of motion. But one question is it reversible during the freezing phase? Because now after more than 9 years it returned after I started doing some wrong stretches and putting too much strain on my shoulder.

@marchaaaaaaaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you guys, at least there is hope for this condition.

@kenblankenbuehler1049 3 жыл бұрын

Circa 13 months for both my shoulders at different times with rehab exercises. My first one the ortho wanted to do surgery but I opted out. Stopped playing golf forever .

@per-erikhedmark3490 Жыл бұрын

resistance bands worked for me when I was having trouble with this. got some exercises from my physical therapist.

@MsSpokenvoice 3 жыл бұрын

Is it common for the numbness and singleness to happen? or that it feels a pain of heaviness of some sort? Is it nessacary for me to get the cortisone shot as the doc is trying to talk me into?

@yonasentertainment5927 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve seen all your disc videos. Please do one on l5s1 that is bilobed.

@TyTy-er2fk Ай бұрын

I'm in yr 2 and half about 60 percent mobility. I'm still in alot of.pain at times. Therapy does help.

@pietclsssens6893 3 жыл бұрын

Swimming daily breast stroke for 4 weeks cured my shoulder for 90%. Better than all the alternatives I tried.

@dellajean4876 3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't swim with my frozen shoulder. The pain keeps me up all night and has changed my whole life. I had it first on the left side. Then a year later the left one healed, but then the right one started. I think there is more arthritis in my right shoulder which makes it worse. This is pain you won't forget. I take medication for pain, but it only takes the edge off. I don't see how swimming can fix this. I did heavy lifting for 30+ years.

@pietclsssens6893 3 жыл бұрын

@@dellajean4876 Hi Della-Cate. All I can say is that it did help me extremely well. In the beginning the swimming was hard for me too and didn't do many laps. I think the movement in the weightless environment could be beneficial for a frozen shoulder. Greetings Pete

@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it depends on what is causing your frozen shoulder symptoms and how long you had it. Usually it's caused by tight muscles/ligaments, other times it's do to scar tissue, and in rare cases it's caused by extra bone growth/bad impingement.

@litsci1877 2 жыл бұрын

@@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven Those are all different conditions. Frozen shoulder is about fibrotic adhesions in the capsule.

@KaeganThornhillTheCyberRaven 2 жыл бұрын

@@litsci1877 That is True, thou I was saying all those things could appear to be "Frozen Shoulder" or misidentified.

@simini1837 3 жыл бұрын

I don't see the frozen videos on your website. Am I missing something? I looked under Programs. Thank you!

@coachdebby564 3 жыл бұрын

Bob and Brad are very helpful! I am having my SECOND frozen shoulder injury. I so appreciate you two for calling out the dumbass gimmicks that others have promoted. Frozen shoulder is a REAL, long, & painful condition. Heat packs help a tiny bit. Stretching every hour helps a tiny bit. Chiropractic care and acupuncture help somewhat. Honestly, I think The two things that have helped me the most are following a diet with no inflammatory foods and using an infrared light. Also TENS offers a little relief.

@wsuextccmastergardenerprogram 3 жыл бұрын

I'm having my second frozen shoulder as well. I am probably in frozen stage, but still with a lot of pain, mostly in the wee hours of the morning or when I move suddenly. My situation this time has arisen as complication from my mastectomy and the chemotherapy that came before the surgery, and in breast cancer patients in general. There is literature saying that, for those who have any of the predispositions for frozen shoulder, any sort of upper body surgery, or receiving of chemotherapy drugs and/or radiation treatment for cancer can open the door to frozen shoulder. I had surgery, chemo, am female, over 60, had frozen shoulder before (on other side), and have hooked or curved acromion process. Slam dunk I'd get it. My PT says they very often see frozen shoulder 6-12 months after mastectomy. Before my shoulder froze, I was even doing strength training with a professional trainer as part of my PT rehab after my mastectomy. I looked back at my records, and it took 15-16 months with constant therapy starting around the 4th month in to resolve my shoulder the first time. Hoping for that good this time. Good luck to everyone suffering through this.

@elizabethwilk9615 3 жыл бұрын

Wow thanks. I thought of the Infra red light. I lived in Europe and wonder why so many people use these lights.

@XMLJVM Жыл бұрын

I have had open surgery twice for frozen shoulder. Once in May 2022 and again October 2022. Unfortunately I'm type 1 diabetic which is why it returned so soon. I'm in physical therapy 7 days a week which is painful. My shoulder is not any better and I'm scared.

@aimeecantrell3546 Жыл бұрын

Would you please post more info about the infrared light? Thank you!

@cd653 Жыл бұрын

I had a frozen shoulder and it was so painful... they gave me a cortisone shot and that did help instantly. Then i started physical therapy for a good 6 months. Finally it went away... thank god. Now here I am 20 years later and I have a frozen shoulder again in the same arm. It hurts bad especially when i go to reach over my head. Painful when I go to bed too. I'm going to the doctor this week. I'll watch your exercise videos and try to get some relief. I keep putting ice and heat on it. Not fun=(

@ronin2167 2 жыл бұрын

I am going through physical therapy right now for a bone spur with a torn supraspanative and frozen shoulder. It's very painful. 2 hours of stretching, exercise and manipulation doesn't help like that....I seriously doubt 60 seconds would do anything at all.

@AndyJarman 28 күн бұрын

I'm wondering if it has to do with poor shoulder muscle development, or the type of matress/pillow I'm using.

@athisihleandisiwentshanga2554 3 жыл бұрын

Does this apply to spasticity after stroke?

@sandramackenzie8425 3 жыл бұрын

I have had frozen shoulder twice. The first time I tried physio, a cortisone shot eventually had surgery which did improve my pain and range of motion almost immediately but I had to do about 9 more months of physio afterwards. It was a long, expensive process. The second time I got it, nine years later, I ignored it for 8 or 9 months and the pain was getting pretty frustrating so I tried shockwave therapy and it was terrific. I had significant improvement after the first treatment, no cortisone, no physio, no surgery. I had 8 or 9 treatments in total and was completely cured. If I ever get it again I will be running for shockwave therapy immediately.

@recoverykonie407 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. What is shockwave therapy and how can I get it?

@dchoudhary5449 2 жыл бұрын

What about hydrodistension? Is it panacea for some relief. I am in too much pain and can’t sleep.

@Aresmusic.official 3 жыл бұрын

And what about frozen shoulder after stroke? Any cure for that? Where patient feels pain when they move their arms away from their body.

@applebomb4091 3 жыл бұрын

this is true only time and stretches help.

@pitbullwinkle 3 жыл бұрын

I had to go to PT about 4 months. It hurt like a mofo. I used ice / heat very little OTC pain relievers I did and still do streches for both shoulders and my neck.

@valerie4196 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! I have Frozen Shoulder again. 10 years ago i got it in one shoulder, the other and back to the first one. Sure it went away by itself, but I couldn't do a snow angel, so I went for Physio. I am being more proactive about treatment this time.

@shawnmacdonaldvancouver5027 2 жыл бұрын

you guys are the real deal

@natuurlijkgezondblog676 2 жыл бұрын

If I'm right, a frozen shoulder is often caused by an form of inflammation. So, I guess when you could stop the inflammation the frozen shoulder goes away. Don't know of this kind of inflammation can also be stopped by changing your diet... Do you have any experience with clients getting healed after changing there diet? Or in what sence can your diet help you against a frozen shoulder?

@obergssin 2 жыл бұрын

That’s the conclusion I came to …

@i.b.168 Жыл бұрын

Frozen shoulder is probably in most cases caused by Magnesium deficiency. Take as much Magnesium you can hold (loose stool), and you will feel better (less extreme pain) in few days insted of several months.

@catherinewillis5414 Жыл бұрын

I'm on my second and I really wish both of mine had only taken 6 to 9 weeks to freeze! Try 18 months for the first and 15 months and counting for the second and that's JUST the freezing stage.