How To Check Your DMF Dual Mass Flywheel The Correct Way

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A dual-mass flywheel (DMF) is a rotating mechanical device that is used to provide continuous energy (rotational energy) in systems where the energy source is not continuous, the same way as a conventional flywheel acts, but damping any violent variation of torque or revolutions that could cause an unwanted vibration. The vibration reduction is achieved by accumulating stored energy in the two flywheel half masses over a period of time but damped by a series of strong springs, doing that at a rate that is compatible with the energy source, and then releasing that energy at a much higher rate over a relatively short time. A compact dual-mass flywheel often includes the whole clutch, including the pressure plate and the friction disc
Dual-mass flywheels were developed to address the escalation of torque and power, especially at low revs. The growing concern for the environment and the adoption of more stringent regulations have marked the development of more efficient new engines, lowering the cylinder number to 3 or even 2 cylinders, and allowing the delivery of more torque and power at low revolutions. The counterpart has been an increase in the level of vibration which traditional clutch discs are unable to absorb. This is where the dual-mass flywheels play a key role, making these mechanical developments more viable.[2]
The absorption capacity of the vibration depends on the moving parts of the DMF, these parts are subject to wear. Whenever the clutch is replaced, the DMF should be checked for wear. The two key wear characteristics are freeplay and sideplay (rock). These should be measured to determine whether the flywheel is serviceable. The wear limit specifications can be found in vehicle or flywheel manufacturer's published documentation. Other failure modes are severely grooved/damaged clutch mating surface, grease loss, and cracking
Individual bent spring
The simplest form of the bent spring is the standard single spring.
One-phase bent springs in parallel
The standard springs are called parallel springs of one phase. These consist of an outer and an inner spring of almost equal lengths and connected in parallel. The individual characteristic curves of the two springs are added to form the characteristic curve of the spring pair.
Two-phase bent springs in parallel
In the case of two-stage spring there are two curved parallel springs, one inside the other, but the internal spring is shorter so that it acts later. The characteristic curve of the outer spring is adapted to increase when the engine is started. The softer outer spring only acts to increase the problematic resonance frequency range. When the torque increases, reaching the maximum value, the internal spring also acts. In this second phase, the inner and outer springs work together. The collaboration of both springs thus ensures good acoustic isolation at all engine speeds.
Three-phase bent spring
This curved spring consists of an outer and two inner springs with different elastic characteristics connected in series. This category of bent spring uses the two concepts together: parallel and series connection in order to ensure optimal torsional compensation for each value of torque
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@ChrisManChannel
@ChrisManChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out leon. It was much appreciated.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Any time mate
@SuperSreggin
@SuperSreggin 2 жыл бұрын
mate this is so helpful thanks alot for your time and effort recording and explaining well done.
@joncraig
@joncraig 4 ай бұрын
A fabulous demonstration adn I can't thank you enough, you just saved me (my friend) the costly amount of a replacement DMF!!! THANK YOU!!!!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 ай бұрын
That's what it's all about glad you find it helpful. Thanks for watching.
@sinicholls1751
@sinicholls1751 6 ай бұрын
Awesome as ever! About to do my 2010 2.2 115 T260 clutch on the drive and know how to check the flywheel now! Thanks a million. 👍
@jorgemora7190
@jorgemora7190 5 ай бұрын
Wow very good job Bodjit we always learn something every day thakns for your time 👍🏻
@tedtolentino4955
@tedtolentino4955 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a million for these pointers. I would not have known what is and is not a good DMF.
@madmazdamini
@madmazdamini 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson!!! Most informative!!
@Ykk35596
@Ykk35596 3 жыл бұрын
The best explanation at all. Thanks a lot mate. You are a Star 🌟. Great job 👍
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I like, when you do videos like this quick and straight to the point buddy. Can't beat valeo clutches put one on my mums C4GP.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Boom sorted thanks mate
@jondawnjoshuahutson1877
@jondawnjoshuahutson1877 3 жыл бұрын
Really helpful video. I've liked and subscribed.
@tomgei
@tomgei 4 жыл бұрын
I have replaced one of these on my mates Mondeo, and it had failed completly turning it self into a lathe inside the bellhouse. I love these information vids from U. Keep em comin`
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@matthewbriggs388
@matthewbriggs388 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you
@marinvremes5702
@marinvremes5702 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, two thumbs up, you just saved my day tomorrow. Cheers mate
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it
@125sm3
@125sm3 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip Leon
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@patfogarty1421
@patfogarty1421 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, spot on information on this thank you .
@MePeterNicholls
@MePeterNicholls 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll check this when I do the seals and clutch
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@szotyi1980
@szotyi1980 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your video is very helpful!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Leon, I have been really worried that I'd made a huge mistake when I did the clutch on our Disco td5. We were getting that horrible screeching noise that happens when someone doesn't lube the spigot bush properly. Anyhow, we changed the clutch at the same time but I couldn't afford to do the DMF. I tried to check it and it did roughly what your new one did. The clutch I took out wasn't too bad and I figured to just go for it as it's our only car. I feel much better now at it was a really heavy job I hope not to have to do again in a hurry.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Boom sorted
@patelliott8724
@patelliott8724 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video! My RG Colorado will need a new clutch very soon. I've never dealt with duel mass flywheels before so I have no idea what to look for. In not going to risk leaving the flywheel and just replacing the rest, I'll do the lot! I have heard that I can change to a single mass clutch kit and save a few dollars but I think I'll stick with what nature intended!
@CarsExposed
@CarsExposed 4 жыл бұрын
Good tip mate, I have to agree when it comes to clutch is worth the extra pennies for a quality one cheers 👍👍👍
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly mate you get what you pay for
@simonrawle7885
@simonrawle7885 4 жыл бұрын
top tip leon . chris vids look well edited
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate
@chestnut01111
@chestnut01111 4 жыл бұрын
I fitted a dual mass to solid conversion to a Focus 1.8 TDCi about 18 months ago. That car has now done over 200000 miles and drives smooth and is fine. Go to solid if you can get one!!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
👍💪
@germanhugger41
@germanhugger41 4 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video as usual.. I replaced the failed Dual mass flywheel on my Skoda Octavia Tdi with a four piece National brand solid flywheel clutch kit. The set only cost me €200, I also replaced the rear crankshaft oil seal, and the clutch input shafts seal... Managed another 80 thousand miles of issue free driving before selling the car... As I recall, the Valeo single mass clutch kit was twice the price at €400 and the Dual Mass replacement clutch kit was over €1000.. The National brand clutch kit has lasted over 130 thousand miles since it was fitted, and is still going strong... Yes Valeo make good stuff, but it's way overpriced..
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you have saved money mate but at the end of the day you get what you pay for all so you have to take into consideration a customer is paying me to do the job I cannot not put parts in that could fail immaturely because that would just cause me an issue with the customer means I have to do more work for free and it just causes too many problems I put the parts in that I know I can trust that's how I've got to work just for my own reputation I'm sure you can understand that
@malachy1847
@malachy1847 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage Find Autodoc.co.uk good for hard to get Car parts they seem to be able to source a lot of parts from a company called 'LuK' at very good prices...Autodoc even have an App to look up for same... www.schaeffler.de/content.schaeffler.de/en/products-and-solutions/automotive-aftermarket/index.jsp
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis 2 жыл бұрын
You can get the valeo solid conversion for less than 300 mate. At least then your know your clutch will last.
@gerrydays1909
@gerrydays1909 4 жыл бұрын
Good tip Leon 😀😀
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@mujaffarkhan7435
@mujaffarkhan7435 Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir😊😊😊😊
@TheDisgruntledMechanic
@TheDisgruntledMechanic 4 жыл бұрын
good info. fine job.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@liamwoodcock8095
@liamwoodcock8095 4 жыл бұрын
Like your videos I learn lots tips and tricks
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate
@autosport3081
@autosport3081 4 жыл бұрын
Well maybe this car still have the OEM DFM fitted,but at some point the clutch kit must have been replaced,and that is why it's still in good condition,thank you for showing us this way of testing,it's very helpful.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Not on this one mate the customers had this car since new and this is the first time it had anything inside the gearbox replaced
@prathipkumaratputharajah7812
@prathipkumaratputharajah7812 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@mixaly4
@mixaly4 Жыл бұрын
Duuuuude, THANK YOU!!!!
@1970chevelle396
@1970chevelle396 4 жыл бұрын
Here in America most vehicles with dual mass flywheels are on diesel trucks. I always replace them with a single mass flywheel. Some of the European cars also have them. Very few cars here anymore even have manual transmissions.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate only diesel vehicles have them over here some cars you can change to a solid flywheel just depends we are the opposite of you we get very few automatic here
@paulgiblin807
@paulgiblin807 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new luk dmf from fast parts and the rocking is worse than that. Glad I knew to test before fitting. It be going back tomoz
@JS-fd7se
@JS-fd7se Жыл бұрын
Sorted!!!!
@serbancordis3416
@serbancordis3416 2 жыл бұрын
I think you can still check it on the engine. You should still be able to feel the dead zone or slack. Most dmf manufacturers will specify how many teeth the deadzone should spread across. Am i correct? I saw what you did but i cannot feel how the spring is pushing against.
@bryanherrera9299
@bryanherrera9299 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much you clear my mind after all this time !!! But now let me ask you where did you buy the new flywheel and clutch kit?
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
I buy them from my local Motor Factors
@jaapseiye2246
@jaapseiye2246 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2005 golf tdi that sounded like it was making popcorn and it ran and still runs after 14 months In the old days this too much torque issue was avoided by upping the gearbox spec like Vauxhall did with the 2.5 diesel to a 3 litre box.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
💪👍
@sjm.photos
@sjm.photos 3 жыл бұрын
mine is knocking at the moment and i can feel sometimes like a rotational feel also vibration through the steeringwheel off to the main dealer i go for warranty lol
@bendude6748
@bendude6748 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like they should make these serviceable so you can dismantle it and replace the springs/bearings and whatever the cost of some of them new is insane.
@pastytit
@pastytit 3 жыл бұрын
Weld it together on budget builds. Like my frontera off roader for example. That will never have a new duel mass flywheel. They are worth more than the whole truck.
@upupandaway5646
@upupandaway5646 2 жыл бұрын
Great video would you change over ro a single mass flywheel
@upupandaway5646
@upupandaway5646 2 жыл бұрын
Goid video thanks would you ever change to a single mass flywheel
@lorencing
@lorencing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Do you have any preference between Valeo, Luk and Sachs? I have a 2008 Citroen C5, 2.0Hdi with 100kW and can not choose between the three.
@gregallen690
@gregallen690 9 ай бұрын
Wish I saw this before I did my mini clutch!!!!
@dualmassflywheeldmfrepair5370
@dualmassflywheeldmfrepair5370 4 жыл бұрын
very good one more registered and will like
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate
@martinjameskilleavy8488
@martinjameskilleavy8488 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, does the flywheel have a top and bottom that needs to be matched the the position of the crankshaft ? Thanks
@TheRCBiker
@TheRCBiker 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, Do you recommend replacing the DMF at each clutch change? I have recently taken ownership of a 2017 Golf GTI and a few days into driving it the clutch is slipping. The dealership I bought it from have agreed without hesitation to replace the clutch for me FOC, but I am also hearing a slight knocking sound at Idle (not bad at all) which I fear is very early signs of dual mass flywheel failure. The car has done 59k and we're talking about a 230bhp car here so my gut feeling is that they should replace the flywheel at the same time. what are your thoughts?
@MrOmgfreak
@MrOmgfreak 3 жыл бұрын
yes replace the fly wheel look on ebay first
@DomX2008
@DomX2008 3 жыл бұрын
Are they all meant to spring back? I have a performance kit from Sachs SRE and there's no axial movement but it doesn't spring back - just moves left and right.
@anthonywilson4873
@anthonywilson4873 10 ай бұрын
I had a dual mass flywheel and changed it at 130,000 miles as I was doing the first clutch as a precaution. Pull away in second with the wheels spinning see how long they last. Drive the car normally. The centering bush has cracked and half gone the flywheel surface is off centre and must have had a lot of vibration. 190,000 kilometres ain’t bad in my book.
@goodsmoke7412
@goodsmoke7412 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to take out the oil when you do this process ? Can you do it without taking the oil out ?
@raymondzhao9557
@raymondzhao9557 Жыл бұрын
useful
@bullshitdetective1
@bullshitdetective1 4 жыл бұрын
springing!!! boom!!!!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Lol sorted
@petetheresellerandscrapper849
@petetheresellerandscrapper849 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Leon i didn't know that i will openly admit I've only checked one and that was on the car still
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
boom now you no lol thanks mate
@petetheresellerandscrapper849
@petetheresellerandscrapper849 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage this is one of the reasons i watch you I've learnt alot from you very appreciated I'm only a home mechanic which struggles to alot being disabled but i always get it done and keep mine and my family's vehicles on the road
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@petetheresellerandscrapper849 thanks alot mate I'm glad my videos help that's what it's all about
@johnrockley9472
@johnrockley9472 4 ай бұрын
I had a '02 diesel Focus with about 150k miles. I parked, on restarting it terrible sound! I thought the starter had failed to release from the ring gear. No DMF! I limped it home only reving to. 1500 rpm. Sounded and felt dreadful! I needed to use it still but in the return trip I redlined it and did some violent gear changes several times. The noise and shaking stopped, and it was still okay when I got rid of it 50k miles on. Guess I got lucky!
@paulp96275
@paulp96275 3 жыл бұрын
👍thanks
@UKProperPrepper
@UKProperPrepper 3 ай бұрын
When mechanics install a new clutch do they ordinarily check the flywheel? Asking as I purchased a car a few weeks ago which had a new clutch installed in Dec due to previous owner burning it out, and the clutch and gear shifting is a nightmare. The dealer has booked the car in with the garage he uses for another new clutch install...but I'm concerned the flywheel is shot and the same issue will happen again if the flywheel is not replaced.
@Gultronics
@Gultronics 3 жыл бұрын
I have two new flywheels. Both only have spring back in one direction. Is this normal? Zafira B 1.7 CDTI
@ricardodejohn3505
@ricardodejohn3505 2 жыл бұрын
Chris, when I'm looking at a decent second hand DMF with warranty from a reputable dismantler, good spring action etc, why is it usually half the flywheel that's sold, the sprocket, is it a weight & convenience thing, like you don't really need the back?
@Stephenc4877
@Stephenc4877 2 жыл бұрын
Doing my transit custom gear box, just took my dual mass off it does spring back with no signs or feel of wear, I’m going to prick up the bits I do need i.e gear box oil, new slave for and release bearing, do you recon it’s worth putting the flywheel in as a while your there job?
@ElJaviTuning
@ElJaviTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a noise on cold starts. When it sounds like the flywheel, but when you press the clutch pedal, the clutch release bearing sounds, but it only happens on cold. when the car get heat. it just doesn't sound anymore. What could be the problem? It's a 2.0 TFSI audi 8p 6 speed manual
@mammothmotouk
@mammothmotouk 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I have a project car with this problem. I want to tackle this myself for the fun and love of it. I have never tackled this before, do you have any advice.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
have fun mate
@kudzy11
@kudzy11 2 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage lol
@abumaleeha1
@abumaleeha1 4 ай бұрын
I got a vibration happening on load on vehicle. Car on cold sounds like marbles goes away once warm. Thinking dmf. It is getting worse but not too visible on idle. Can sometimes see frm. D and neutral it goes away. Dsg
@therealchayd
@therealchayd 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I've got a DMF on the way out, hoping to fix it over the summer. I'm surprised by how little spring pressure there is even on the new one, I thought they'd be super strong springs, given the amount of impulse torque that they have to absorb.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate obviously they move a lot more than that but physically I cannot put that much pressure on it but the engine can
@lobobaltazar1322
@lobobaltazar1322 Жыл бұрын
Watched some expert from a company that makes clutches speak how sideways rocking is absolutely NOT a test and how most even completely good ones will do that, and should in no way be considered a test. Also that very small rotational shift is normal. EDIT : There are often depending on the model 3 types of springs. What you felt is the weak in the start but later down the line of compressing them huge forces happen.
@johngrantham8024
@johngrantham8024 4 жыл бұрын
A few years back, I had a DMF disintegrate on a 3 year old 60.000 mile Xsara Picasso. I knew something was not right as I started getting a vibration wobble when accelerating whilst towing a caravan on holiday in Scotland. Guy at Murchisons Garage in Kyle told me DMF's often pack up in towcars due to the extra load. Beware buying a car with a towbar fitted!!!!!!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Great advice mate
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 3 жыл бұрын
Buying a Citroen was your first mistake then getting one that’s been pulling fuck knows what for 60k was your second mistake mate.
@mercenary2318
@mercenary2318 8 ай бұрын
What kind of car is that? And what brand flywheel. The original one. Trying to figure out what my stock oem flywheel is on my 2012 acura tl
@danssv8
@danssv8 Жыл бұрын
Dual mass flywheel also works on central fungal force's
@mattsez2879
@mattsez2879 3 жыл бұрын
my clutch on my 02 jeep tj works perfect.......but im getting a wicked vibration at all rpm.......like a dead hole......i assume if that goes bad it would vibrate like crazy?.......and ( got it used )......if someone did a single mass swap......i could watch my gear shift shake at idle? Trying to narrow this down before I pull the trans on a hunch !!
@madman7341
@madman7341 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if there is a solid flywheel available for a 2.2 d4d 150hp avensis motor factors said they can't find a solid
@harman1967
@harman1967 9 ай бұрын
Now then, I had a mk4 Golf tdi fitted with a SMF, drove ok, a little jumpy pulling away in 1st but after that no problem. I now have a Leon mk2 Tdi FR 140 ( 1P1 ) with a DMF nearing the end of it's service life, getting a bit clunky. Can you see any probs fitting a SMF ? I keep hearing bad comments about long term damage to transmission etc, why? surely that's down to clutch control. The Leon has done just over 100K but I would say when I bought the car it had been fitted with a towbar so probably got some abuse.
@frijus100
@frijus100 10 ай бұрын
is still good use old stock new dual mass flywheel?
@nickcollins7568
@nickcollins7568 4 жыл бұрын
If one has had to remove the gearbox and clutch to inspect the suspect flywheel one might as well fit a new one anyway. Also fit a new clutch as well anyway, considering the labour involved
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate I agree but what if you test the flywheel and it's perfect and the flywheel cost £1,000 what would you do
@nickcollins7568
@nickcollins7568 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage Investigate further as their has to be a reason to remove it in the first place.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
They can be lots of reasons clutch slipping leaking release bearing pressure plates rattling oil seal leaking still doesn't mean there's a problem with the flywheel So my original question still stands what about if you check the flywheel and it's ok and it cost £1,000 to replace what would you do
@nalediudemezue8095
@nalediudemezue8095 Жыл бұрын
Hi can use 2. Liter fly wheels dual mass on 1.6 Nissan juke dual
@abukalam9210
@abukalam9210 Жыл бұрын
i have same transmission in my car i would like change st220 6 speed transmission is it possible to change will it it fit ?
@surendrakathayat9082
@surendrakathayat9082 3 ай бұрын
What will happen if I clean flywheel with power washer? Is it gonna damage?
@losantonio9049
@losantonio9049 2 ай бұрын
Is wise to replace it with a full mass flywheel instead
@davidhall7744
@davidhall7744 5 ай бұрын
The problem I appear to have with my DMF is that something is causing me to go thru them every 2000 miles (the last one that got changed was ‘shredded’ apparently) with the transmission guy telling me it was an imbalance in the engine that was causing the issue. However the engine idles perfectly, which doesnt suggest an imbalance 😬 So im stuck.
@johnhunt2388
@johnhunt2388 4 жыл бұрын
Hope I don't have trouble with my 2012 Mondeo it has an automatic gearbox so will that be worse for me in repairs if that gets worn.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
the most expensive thing is going to be your gearbox automatic gearbox is always expensive
@vwukben
@vwukben 3 жыл бұрын
When the DMF is rocking don't come a knocking.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@bmartinot
@bmartinot Жыл бұрын
I've got factory spec free play and 4/5 teeth movement but it doesn't really spring back. It does slowly come back if I put a lot of pressure onnitnfirst. Does this sound good? It's a valeo.
@scottbrooks3402
@scottbrooks3402 4 жыл бұрын
Single mass flywheel's all the way, hate dmf's. Cause so many issues.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate I agree with you there are a lot cheaper but unfortunately not every car car can actually accept them with no issues so sometimes you have to but up with the trouble of them
@scottbrooks3402
@scottbrooks3402 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage yes very true, pro's and cons of both really in terms of vibration and potential damage to the crank on some cars. As you say not all cars accept them. I think some manufacturers are going away from them now due to the issues they cause
@lukey3507
@lukey3507 4 жыл бұрын
DMF's are used to prevent harsh vibrations going through the gearbox. I'll rather pay extra and have a DMF than have to replace / rebuild the gearbox. And most DMF's go when the clutch is worn out anyway. Every car I've had a dmf failure on the clutch was nearly on the rivets.
@todayintheshopbanksy5904
@todayintheshopbanksy5904 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukey3507 Agree, OEM's don't fit them for fun.
@tecfixed2840
@tecfixed2840 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukey3507 and also seen snapped crankshafts due to fitting a solid flywheels without fitting a special harmonic damper to the crankshaft.
@Markustajahoyrylaiva
@Markustajahoyrylaiva Жыл бұрын
if unchanged can it disintegrate?
@iman80skid91
@iman80skid91 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you remove that one then if you said it wasn't giving any signs of it having a problem
@coskuarsiray
@coskuarsiray 4 жыл бұрын
lets assume that there is no problem with centering. cant we just fix two pieces together in a cnc lathe to make it act like a single mass flywheel? will it work?
@Alexander_l322
@Alexander_l322 3 жыл бұрын
No it has to be balanced and whatnot so if you want a single mass then put a single mass on it don’t fuck about lol
@Ultimate677
@Ultimate677 3 жыл бұрын
This has probably been answered but why why replace the clutch when it was basically brand new obviously the dmf does not last longer as the clutch
@lcclcords5704
@lcclcords5704 2 жыл бұрын
How much is the price range of that part?
@webpro607
@webpro607 4 ай бұрын
How to check SMF?
@dualmassflywheeldmfrepair5370
@dualmassflywheeldmfrepair5370 4 жыл бұрын
muito bom
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
boom
@rockinnathan
@rockinnathan 3 жыл бұрын
just about to tackle.my citreon relay 2.2 with the same issue
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
how fun mate
@geofreygolooba2669
@geofreygolooba2669 Жыл бұрын
Can that flywheel be repaired?
@jaybenjamin5649
@jaybenjamin5649 3 жыл бұрын
How long should a new flywheel last from new ? Would you recommend a second hand flywheel ?
@EcoupeNmt
@EcoupeNmt 2 жыл бұрын
They usually last around 100k or so if you're being nice to your car! I wouldn't recommend a used one cause you'll never know how long it would last and more than likely have to replace it with a new one shortly after planning the used one. Save yourself time, money, and the headache by just replacing with new one, you'll benefit more!
@michailokeefeMooMoo
@michailokeefeMooMoo 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 5 door Citroen xsara when 3rd gear and up when come off the power there is a heavy rattle noise but you touch power again even the slightest touch it goes away . Have you any idea what this is ?
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate how's you can appreciate it going to be very difficult for me to answer this it could be something as simple as just a loose heat shield or it could be something more serious as clutch problems flywheel problems engine problems the list just goes on and on hopefully you can understand it's going to be very difficult for me to answer this I don't want to say something to you and it be wrong and you waste money on parts
@ousmanesarr7287
@ousmanesarr7287 4 жыл бұрын
Boom .not first!!!
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@salvationforthousand5025
@salvationforthousand5025 3 жыл бұрын
Valeo is a real deal.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
ok lol
@elbowtoe84
@elbowtoe84 3 жыл бұрын
The video got very interesting after he went away haha
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@aminkhan1292
@aminkhan1292 Жыл бұрын
for 190k km is really good mines about the same but completely gone
@Ifixitagain
@Ifixitagain 4 жыл бұрын
also can indicate bad with vibration only at idle.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Yes mate
@Verschlimmbesserung
@Verschlimmbesserung Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately a new clutch kit is usually as, or more, expensive than your average used vehicle. They should at least make the flywheel more durable.
@idrisddraig2
@idrisddraig2 4 жыл бұрын
Makes my DMF looks really bad. Had 1/4 turn of play and an inch of wobble - 145,000 km on a VW transporter but ex post office and both driveshafts were click n clunk.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
boom sorted
@oldgitsknowstuff
@oldgitsknowstuff 4 жыл бұрын
Why is the printing on your teashirt backwards. Is is so I can see the message in my rear view mirror ?
@lukey3507
@lukey3507 4 жыл бұрын
Front facing camera is mirror image on phones.
@oldgitsknowstuff
@oldgitsknowstuff 4 жыл бұрын
@@lukey3507 . Really ? What sort of phone do you have ??
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers... But if you get the gearbox off, wouldn't change the clutch and flywheel anyway as it is a major pain?
@autoSRI
@autoSRI 4 жыл бұрын
Benedict White problem is the parts are really expensive you could be looking at £600-700 or more just in parts
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@autoSRI so is the labour to remove and replace the gearbox.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
I hear what you are saying mate but it's not always just cut and dry always comes down to what the customer wants to spend in a perfect world yes always best to replace everything but if you test something and it test 100% and it cost £1,000 to replace what are you going to do
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
@@bodgitandleggitgarage in those circumstances yes, but I did get a lux clutch kit for my Jaguar X type for £300 so there would be no point messing around there.
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
@@BensWorkshop 💪👍
@danssv8
@danssv8 Жыл бұрын
My dual mass flywheel was slipping after 280 000 kilometres (not the clutch lol.) on my Mitsubishi pajero 2008 model and tha clutch was still in good condition. Also had a ton of grease coming out from that flywheel. You can't repair them either. Best is go back to old school single mass , problemmo solved
@maxpayne98383
@maxpayne98383 4 жыл бұрын
If the box comes out for a clutch , you bet it's having a new dual mass , without fail
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world yes but let's imagine clutch is slipping and it's just a clutch plate you test a dual mass flywheel and it is all good and the dual mass flywheel is over £1,000 what are you going to do
@theadventuresofjavier8698
@theadventuresofjavier8698 4 жыл бұрын
💣💣💣💣💣💣💣 SORTED
@bodgitandleggitgarage
@bodgitandleggitgarage 4 жыл бұрын
Boom lol
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