Preach! 🙌

Yes!!

Unless, y'know, the bride WANTS their grooms opinion, like this woman did. Yeah it was a bit irritating but at the end of the day he was just being honest & giving his opinion like she wanted. It really isn't right for anyone else to judge if the bride wants him to be there. He wasn't rude or disrespectful, I've seen mothers MUCH worse.

@@raenfairy also homie took the L the moment he realized the dress he picked was whack! i appreciated that so much tbh.

@@raenfairy I agree with you. It is ok if she wants him to be there and get his opinion. I just think she should pick what she wants for her dress.

And she does NOT want to go through another breakup....i.e. she is not standing up to this control freak that trust me is only gonna get worse after the wedding. Red flag!!

That's the vibe I was getting. I suspect she is settling for a man who simply wants her, versus a man that SHE wants. I doubt she would be with him if she had more self confidence.

@@malloryg4251 Totally

@@bonniemarkley2938 I totally agree with you. He is a control freak. Too many red flags. He isn't marriage material. If he's like this now, it will be way worse after the wedding. If they lock him in a closet, he'll be good picking out a dress. The dresses that looked great he hated. Sorry just don't see a happy future with him. Shame, because she seems like such a lovely girl.

@@bonniemarkley2938 Yeah! He's got a real Gary Busey vibe.

I honestly think he's on the spectrum, which is why he said the comments he did

He's just saying they are meant to be and can work anything out. I really don't see a problem with what he said. However, he shouldn't be so opinionated with HER dress. Also, are we sure they aren't related? They look like twins😳

@@GameChanger597 she wanted his opinion bc he'll be honest, with her

@@GameChanger597 Oh thank goodness I'm not the only one who thought they look alike XD

Sounds like they are forcing their relationship. Yep, red flag.

I agree!!

Or at the very least provide a more realistic "sample" size dresses to the stores. If the average woman is sized 10 and above, it borders on ridiculous to suggest a size 6 is representative of the majority.

It is exactly the discussion I've had with designers and photographers constantly. They think it's ok to have models almost dying on parades or extremely modified in magazines but they're unable to dress real women and make them look gorgeous and comfortables. That's sadistic.

@@jocelynebordage9907 yes, that is exactly what I mean. It would be more realistic.

Perhaps in some "small" way, sample sizes remaining so unrealistically small has more to do with the cost of everything from cost of materials (beading etc...) than what the "fashion industry" does or doesn't believe is a most representative size. Imo the fashion industry cares about drawing attention to their products in the most economical way. They aren't forced to care about things from any other prospective.

yeah i agree!

@@vee-bz7pz same

@@vee-bz7pz same

No, usually ok, but this guy’s something else!

Well I guess he feels it’s similar to them discussing wedding things in general like cake and decor and venue and she didn’t seem to be bothered by what he said. He was really supportive in the end with the sample dress so I don’t think there is an issue with their relationship, even though Lory doesn’t like grooms present. She meow had her heart set for the sample dress and could not really get attached to other things even without what he said.

I liked everything but her lipstick. It was too red. For me when all I see is her lips it doesn't look good.

@@teriannebeauchamp254 whatever

She reminds me of Arwen from the Lord of the rings

@@teriannebeauchamp254 I agree with you.

She has very a Old Hollywood look! She's She's absolutely stunning !

Lol! Couldn't stop laughing with your comment. 😄

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LMAO!!! I know, right??? These opinionated grooms don't even know what they want!! That's why they should skip the appointment and stay home.

Yep, I had to buy a size 20 in one dress and would’ve worn an 18 in another - I’m working my way down, and I’d love to wear a 10. I’ll settle for a 12 or 14 though!

@@emmyblue30 same here!

Right

I am working out to get down to a 12/14!!! A size 10 sounds like a dream!’

Hes not out opinionated. Its THEIR wedding and she gets a say in his tux so

Thank you! I don't know what all these people were watching.

This is why my husband came with me back when I tried on dresses. I didn't feel beautiful. The staff didn't help. When I went back, he came and made me feel like a goddess.

They cut the video to bring out some drama, so that people will watch it, however I think that he picked the best looking dress for her. She looked so beautiful.

well, it is in front of camera .................. clearly, she can be suppressed easily ............. she does not a need agroom .......... nor a married life ..............she must find herself and one part of that is losing weight and psychological support by a therapist ........................ well, i noticed the man is very well in shape ............... so it is a way to control her ..................... publicly announce that the woman is fine , well, clearly it is obvious to everyone that she does not feel fine but as soon as she wants to bring a change to herself, those who have fear of competing with her after change, keep telling her, you are fine and beautiful , when deep inside they are crossing a finger and laugh ..............jealousy comes in so many different ways ...............for example you are fat , and you want to lose weight , your own mother or sister tells you , no you are not fat , you think you are fat , and then hold a party and themselves get dressed fit, yet you are really fat and you know that, but have been poisoned by lies so you come in a dress in the same party and people start to ignore or insult you , because of the way you look, yet your sister and mother knows , laughing inside but ignoring on the surface and then twist the whole fact and bringing another issue as the reason why the guest at the party were mocking you and keep feeding you lies , that you are beautiful .............unfortunately, the word beautiful has been misinterpreted and twisted to the fact that, people say she is fat but not ugly, yet, we all know that extra fat which make us uncomfortable by our brain is interpreted as ugly , that is why brings discomfort , a psychological discomfort ..........so, manipulation and jealousy even can be exhibited under the umbrella of so- called support

He seems controlling.

I thought exactly the same

i thought so too :)

That's exactly what I thought, its definitely a sensory thing

Very astute. I didn’t notice that as something unusual, I’d be the same. 😅

Well, if he is, that makes his opinions less annoying.

Yeah I think she’s the absolute best out of all the locations she is hands down the best consultant

She and Shay are my fav

And I like Nikki too

Yes! One of my favorites ❤

I agree my fiance and I went together just for me to try some not to pick one and he was so supportive and cried I'm going with my mother and his when I go pick the actual dress

I don't understand the rush of getting married this young! I think about the generations they were kind of pressure to get married before certain age, but now ,they have a choice....

@@mariallopis8014 that girl seems to have a serious case of the adults lol- beautiful girl, but carrying herself like she is trying to be 40 instead of 24. That boy she is marrying just seems like a young dumb kid who thinks too much of their own opinion to get smarter any time soon.

Valerie Harper: Exactly! I agree with you! He doesn't have any business being there at all! He's a controlling man and it's going to get worse when they get married!

@@bw3839 YESSS!! 🙌🏻

Well I feel bad that you can see obvious red flags.

@@kanyebreast6072 hmm well it wasn't okay what he was doing. And I wouldn't like it as well, I would think mind your own business. But I still wouldn't mind if my husband to ben was sitting there and discussijg with me wich one the best choice is. But thereby, my opinion must be the most important one. And that's something that wasn't the thing here... She had to stand up for her own opinions more, but that's also his job to let her decide on her own. But I don't think he can see what he was doing wrong🤷. And well we see a small percentage of the whole thing, they can manipulate a lot

I think so too. I think her husband just wants her to find a perfect dress and she maybe wanted him with her because she wants him to like it too. He only critized the dresses, he never said she looks ugly or anything mean, he probably just wants a good dress. If I were in a bridal shop with a friend I would want her to get the best dress for her money and Kleinfield gives you ugly dresses even for 4.000 Dollars... Lancashire is the only place on this show where you get a good deal for your money.

Yeah, I don’t think he understood what it means to go with someone to pick out a wedding dress. It’s a very loaded experience.

I asked my fiance if he wanted to come and he said no he didnt want to see the dress before the day

It's expensive for the designers to do that though and expensive for the shop when they can't sell the gown on. It's just because it's couture that it's particularly small. I would imagine most samples are a bit bigger.

@@MsJubjubbird but if it is too small and most can't try it on, it becomes difficult to sell, it is a two way sword. The chances of it selling (f in average size) is much higher than being too small for ppl to try

@@jemmaj2919 they can probably have it tried in up to a size eight. So most of their clientele given the demographics. They probably would be smarter with an eight but custom couture tends to go smaller.

@@MsJubjubbird Yeah why though? Maybe because the fashion and diet culture made being thin a 'beauty' requirement instead of just an option. Like the fact that it's so common to expect people outside of the size to just deal cuz samples weren't made big enough. You can always clip a dress tighter not stretch its common sense.

@@gracett3628 It cots more to use more fabric and needlework. Plus once you get above a certain size you change the shape of the dress so you need a whole new pattern as it's basically a different dress. Also the store want to sell them off the rack without or with minimal alterations needed for those who don't have time to order. Beauty is partly a fashion thing. What is in a magazine is unrealistic. But also, as animals, we are naturally attracted to what is considered 'healthy. Back in the day, it was fashionable to be big and curvy. All the art reflected this. It was because it was a sign of fertility, when a lot of people did not have enough to eat. Moving forward, we know obesity is unhealthy so we're more attracted to the healthy body weights. Go to a developing country and curvy body types are still put on pedestals.

for real, he even said he thinks she looks great. none of the things he said were related to her appearance like other entourages would say (e.g. "that style is so unflattering on you", "it makes your shoulders broad", "you have no curves in it", etc). kind of crazy that majority of people here aren't picking up on it. honestly looks like there's a bit of projection going on in the comments LOL

All I can think of him is that he might be quietly on the autism spectrum. All his issues seem to be sensory.

No, he really doesn't. He's giving his opinions like she wanted him to. Yeah it might have been a bit irritating that he didn't like much but he was giving his honest opinion. The bride chose to have him there for a reason.

@@raenfairy be quiet 🤐

@@raenfairy you are completely correct. People waste so much time coming up with reasons to be hateful, and the whole time he was saying how concerned he was for her.

@@lenastar2202 Learn some manners.

@@jharrison1811 I don't think people are being hateful but people like him can be irritating to see, especially if you've ever been shopping with someone uncomfortable with their body. He paid little attention to the brides feelings in the dress and was more focused of an aesthetic he wanted, him immediately criticizing with no tact was painfully to hear.

Did she ever go back? What dress did she wear for her wedding if you don't mind me asking. She is so beautiful. It's a shame the fashion industry does not cater to women with regular body types

@@nikitatrisha1616 she did not end up getting her dress there. I think she wore a vintage style dress (with a red lip ;)) but I can’t say for sure (we just kept in touch on fb after highschool and I can’t remember exactly what it looked like, but she was definitely gorgeous!).

@@kristareganmusic I'm so happy for her then!

Agreed. It was way nicer then the one she'd been wanting for months. Life gave you a lemonade, girl, don't throw it out!

Seriously it's always the same. It's suppose to be a happy day which turns into feelings of upset because your not a size 0. Curvy ladies also get married. Smh

@@kellygallison2583 I have always been a 0 and I worry with shopping that all the dress would be too big so even if it costs a tiny bit more 2 dresses is really just the better way to go in my book because. Even if it's monstrous on me at least I can put it on I can't imagine not even being able to get it on my body thats just unfair to a bride on her special day.

@@sydneeforsgren5586 I'm very similar. I've always been a small size so a lot of things need to be altered to fit right, but I like knowing that's an option, whereas curvy brides don't have that option. I can't imagine what that could do to someone's self esteem. I would be devastated.

They'd probably make more money with two different sizes too

@@kellygallison2583 my daughter was a large plus size. Going dress shopping for her wedding in a regular store was a nightmare. Little did we know a small town not far from us had a bridal shop that only carries size 14-34!!!! And they have many dresses in multiple sizes. We were able to find the perfect dress in no time.

Exactly, they are losing out on potential sales, simply because of how many women can't fit into the ridiculously small sample sizes.

I'm size 2 and I'm shocked to realise size 6 is the average!!! Just plain outrageous

I think its bc the dresses cycle out after a few weeks or months so its a lot more effort. But yes I agree

Exactly. He didn't seem overly rude just very honest. Also it's important to remember that this clip has been heavily edited; we see what the producers want us to see, and a boring show where the bride gets told what she want to hear without any challenge doesn't get high ratings.

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What time is it? Over in Great Britain its 13.25 lol

Still married, two kids!

No woman buys a wedding dress just for themselves. They buy it in hopes they will look beautiful for their husband on the wedding day. To say otherwise, is being disingenuous about your own nature.

@@AkireMaru well, Mabey that’s where we differ as I look for no acceptance in what I choose if it makes me happy. You’ll never please everyone, one persons love is another’s hate. Plus, my boyfriend of 5 years said I could get married in a tracksuit and he would still want to marry me. I feel sorry for woman who need their loved ones interests to feel loved/accepted/at peace in clothing

@@bethanymckay4660 congratulations… if you are truly as different as you say you are from every other human being on this planet, I’m sure you will be famous one day.

@@AkireMaru wtf chill girl all I said was I look for no acceptance from others💀 you need a coffee and a good book just chillax

@@bethanymckay4660 It’s you who needs to chill. Claiming you are rare, declaring you are sad (did you actually cry?) and bragging about how much you care about your boyfriend of 5 years, who is about to make it 6, opinion of you is hardly a good look for someone who claims she doesn’t care about other’s opinion of herself. Your ego is through the roof, which makes you delusional and ignorant to even your own nature✌🏾

People are being WAY too harsh on this man. He wasn't rude or disrespectful, he was just honest. He simply gave his opinions, which is the literal point of bringing people with you.

@@raenfairy girl ur trollin lmaooo

the way he commented abt the “reflection of light” and the dress making “too much noise” were clear indicators that he might be on the spectrum. i don’t think he was a bully tbh, he was just stating his opinion. it might’ve been an unnecessary opinion, but that’s why u don’t bring ur fiancé to a fitting

The UK size would be a size 12. Our sizes in the UK are one size bigger than US. So if she's a 10, then it would be 12 here.

They can't order it in for her. It takes 6-8 months for the dresses to come in. She will probably have found a different dress with her wedding coming up. Plus, what if she doesn't like it, then what? They are stuck with a dress that may not sell. And they will be down thousands of dollars.

The highly fashion opinionated grooms get me that way too:)

I felt the same way. Most men don't know enough about gowns to go the fitting.

Yep. I agree. He has a good taste and his comments were on point in my opinion.

This. And I think it's been dramatized in a negative way because it's for television.

@@hez5160 This is what the bride posted on the SYTTD Facebook back on 2010: Hey, all! After watching Mike and I on the episode tonight, I just had to pop on here and see everyone's thoughts. Trust me when I say that there was a LOT that was taken out of context. One big thing: it was actually Lori that made me cry, not Mike. Oh, and I know I shouldn't say this, but I'm with a lot of you- I like watching the Kleinfeld episodes better! 🙂

@@L.Spencer There's something about Lori that rubs me the wrong way in a fair few episodes, especially the way she rolls her eyes & says 'no foxes in the hen house.' (I know she's never kicked any of them out) but realistically why are you commenting on if the bride chooses to bring her groom or not? (I can understand in a sense if she's giving off the vibes of I don't want him to be here but he's overpowering) but she does it with everyone, when it really isn't her place. Thank you for posting what the bride said.. I'd feel awful if I were either the bride or groom sering all these horrible comments about him when it looks like he did nothing wrong 🤷🏽‍♀️

It seems like a sensory issue, yk?