And no one mentions the fact that IGN’s timeline has the Soviet Union appear, collapse and then return without explanation.

You know what they say, you can't spell ignorant without IGN.

This is my way of doing a Bondathon; I start with Dr No and go through all the films in release order until Spectre

As a wise prophet once said, "STOP GETTING BOND WRONG"

And this is why I have the Austin Powers view on the chronology: "I suggest you don't worry about those things and just enjoy yourself."

Daniel Craig is hallucinating that he is Roger Moore, seems legit.

If you’re wondering why he doesn’t age, And other timeline facts (la la la) Just repeat to yourself: “it’s just a film, I should really just relax.”

Does this mean that Jack Wade got plastic surgery so he could look like Brad Whitaker? No wonder Bond didn't trust him at first.

The biggest flaw of this timeline is casino Royale coz of Denchs sentence "God, I miss the cold War" and then every cold war bond movie is coming after it? Huh?

The trouble is all this need to put it on a linear timeline comes from a post-marvel audience. They try so hard to link all those films up dropping hints there and it's tight. That kind of storytelling didn't exist or at least wasn't as popular when they made Bondos so it wasn't a worry.

IGN’s video really proves why they should stick to gaming content

I legit chocked on my water laughing, when he said that Moore was imagining his old MI6 crew.

I immediately wondered what Calvin would think after watching the IGN video

I think my favorite part of this video is how polite Calvin is. Even if he think it's all nonsense, he still doesn't resort to calling them names or undermining them.

They also forgot about General Gogol stepping down in Living Daylights for Pushkin to takeover.

Here’s another thing that I noticed Bond meets Felix Leiter for the first time in Dr No, but he seems to know who Felix Leiter is in Goldfinger. So there’s no way that Goldfinger can take place before Dr No.

From the perspective that this video is NOT tongue-in-cheek...A TON of thoughts to get out of the way in this comment: - I had to pause the video, I was laughing so hard when he suggested Blofeld had plastic surgery to look like one of Bond's old allies and then again when he said "chronologically perfect". - 20:56 Correct me if I'm wrong as I'm not 100% familiar with British Naval ranks but isn't M of the novels (or any Section Chief) a Vice Admiral? If that's the case, Hargraves would be taking a DEmotion to become M wouldn't he? Or am I reading too much into this and he would simply keep his rank with the new job? - I could see, in a stretch, Moneypenny being a codename pre-Craig as we are never given a full name for her until Skyfall. Q is DEFINITELY a title as it's short for Quartermaster. And it's up for debate if M is a title as in Goldeneye, Zukovsky references a "new M" being a lady BUT I'm sure you already know Fleming based the character off his own Section Chief from his time serving, who would sign official documents with only an initial rather than his full name. This is backed up when we learn Lee's M is named Miles Messervy, Dench's M is Olivia Mansfield and Finnes' M is Garreth Mallory. - Die Another Day has aged like milk. - This video somehow made Chrisopth Waltz's Blofeld make LESS sense than it already does. - I laughed again when he basically suggested old-man-Rog is more or less locked in a padded room somewhere having fantasies about saving the world. - 29:10 "And hopefully No Time to Die isn't just a big remake of Dr. No because that might make me rethink this whole thing"...Yeah, you might want to start on that now. ... Really though, it is absolutely impossible for a 60-year old franchise to make any kind of chronological sense. The only thing you need to know is James Bond is ONE man who holds the code-number 007 and Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, and Brosnan are all the SAME man regardless of how outlandish it is. Once a fan can accept that, have fun with the rest!

With this theory IGN could add that movie The Rock somewhere in the end as well

James Bond is played by different actors from film to film: "Behold the rich tapestry of the James Bond franchise!" Blofeld is played by different actors from film to film: "Okay, so stay with me..."

I first saw the IGN video in my recommended, but decided I didn't want to use 17 minutes of my time watching it. 35 minutes of Calvin talking about it though, sign me up!

Personally, I introduced my girlfriend to the series with the Brosnan films, went through to Spectre and then went back to Dr. No through License to Kill. I feel that Goldeneye is the best film to introduce someone who hasn't seen a Bond film since it is modern enough for contemporary audiences but still has all the best Bond tropes.

Can't wait for them to try and explain Felix Leiter changing his appearance so many times. He's probably a Time Lord.

Presumably, these guys also believe the Joker killed Batman's parents, fell off a cathedral before getting a grill, tattoos and a moustache to disguise himself before reintroducing himself to society in 2008.

IGN was definitely having a slow day with news when this came out. I see it as Dr. No through Die Another Day is the same Bond. Then Casino Royale is a reboot of it all (and just keeps the same previous M because Judi Dench is awesome)

I always thought that each James Bond actor has their own continuity

I hate it when normies try to rationalize Bond.

"Fans will say it has aged quite well".... "it has not".... haha loved this!!

I appreciate the IGN video pointing out that the (actual) first "Bond... James Bond" is delivered in response to "Trench, Sylvia Trench", I feel like that gets passed over a lot.

I feel like there are three Bonds: Connery, Lazenby and Moore depicted the character in his first continuity (a campy, over the top universe of Cold War clichés and Sci-Fi), while Dalton and Brosnan played a darker and slightly more realistic, albeit still pun-producing version and Craig, then, a realistic and tough version. I understand that the only "real" cut between universes occurred when the series was rebooted with Craig, but that's the type of head Canon that I came up with due to the "age issue" of the character from Dr. No until Die Another Day.

Biggest flaw in this is the first 4 choices, Felix completely botches this. Bond meets him for the first time in Casino Royal in the reboot timeline and in Dr. No in the original timeline, so this is trying to say that Felix turned white and old as soon as Goldfinger happened and then suddenly turned young again in time for Dr. No where suddenly Bond doesn’t know who the guy he worked with on 3 previous missions is anymore

MASSIVE HOLE!!! How come 'Spectre' is where it is and Bond hasn't heard of SPECTRE or Blofeld yet in the events of said film yet has encountered it in previous films in THIS order?

This attempt is so infuriating it makes me want to put together my own timeline just to show them how it's done. Blargh. Fun, but argh.

"We suggest you don't think about that sort of thing and just enjoy yourself....and that goes for you all too." "Yes."

I feel like one of Franz Blofeldhauser's drills is making its way through my skull

When I was very very young I used to believe James Bond must be a Time Lord hence being the same guy but different faces. I definitely come a hell of a long way since. I call the first 20 films the "Classic Era" as it has its own subtle continuity.

My theory is that Daniel Craig is an older version of James Bond Jr from the cartoon series.

Goodness. I love to ignore fan theories. These guys need to see some Tarzan, Godzilla, Hammer and Universal horror movies. Sometimes continuity takes a back seat. He is the same character. GOLDENEYE is a soft reboot. It neither confirms nor denies the previous movies. CASINO ROYALE is a hard reboot. No that hard to figure out. It may help to watch OHMSS between THUNDERBALL and YOLT, then DAF. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is a semi sequel to OHMSS. That is about it. Remember that the continuity of the books is a contrast to the movies. Felix Leiter was a Texan for example.

Don't you just hate fake fans? You can tell they never pay attention to the scripts or mainly the older scripts because of their attention span.. annoying. Damn IGN trying to get marvel fans to like bond.

The flaw is Jaws turns good than bad again yet bond knows him in Moonraker but not in Spy who loved me And it’s just a jump to the left...

9:43, not only that but Felix and James refer to a previous mission together that took place in Jamaica, an obvious reference to Dr No

Calvin and every other rational person: "The Bond movies don't follow a chronology in the way that you would expect with a Marvel movie, for example, and, while they could be viewed as such it is not the original intention of the filmmakers in the same way it was for the Marvel filmmakers. Therefore, ascribing them a similar mindset would be disingenuous." IGN: "LOL old Roger Moore Bond has dementia and paranoid delusions!"

I see Connery, Lazenby and Moore as the same person. Early adventures in his late 20s/early 30s in 1962 and he is in his 50s in 1985. OHMSS makes call backs to Connery's films as Moore's make reference to Tracy. Dalton is a soft reboot with a younger actor in the late 1980s. What happened in the other films has happened to him, but not necessarily in the same way (e.g. Tracy) Brosnan could be a continuation of Dalton or could be another soft reboot in the 1990s/2000s. I personally would say a soft reboot as I feel like their portrayals of the character as well as the tone of the films is too different. Craig is a complete reboot of the character.

Honestly, I'll give the IGN short credit because that was my genuine issue with Skyfall. I understood thematically where the filmmakers wanted to do with it but it didn't line up with the Craig movies whatsoever and it was like with the references they made, it was more to do with the audiences knowledge of the film series as a whole vs what the character had actually gone through.

In the reference book "The James Bond Encyclopedia" Blofeld did take inspiration from Henderson for his appearance in DAF. And that is a official book!

Their Spectre/Blofeld theory reads like a John Gardner Bond novel....

Calvin, I have a really BAD feeling that at the end of No Time To Die, Daniel Craig will walk into a room to meet his replacement. We all think it's a female - but with updated CGI technology, it's Sean Connery.

Trying to craft a cohesive and coherent plot-line around a series that wasn’t concerned with one is like trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. Yes, there is a vague through-line through the first 20 films (e.g. Tracy’s death) but they weren’t made with any concern for ‘canon’ (which is really more of a 21st century concern, which could only become a thing once people were able to catch up on the ones they hadn’t seen on VHS/DVD/Netflix at home) so it all boils down to a futile attempt to try and make the Bond films be something they’re not, and were never made to do. It’s all making something out of nothing, from a thing that was never there to begin with. So, whilst this video was a bit of daft fun (I do rather like Clint Gage - at least, I like his work with Cinefix, which is a great channel) I think as a Bond timeline it holds water as well as a paper bag.

Watching Bond movies is like watching a classic 60s TV show, self contained episodic format.

A simpler timeline could be: 1. Casino Royale/Quantum Of Solace 2. Dr. No To Die Another Day 3. Skyfall To No Time To Die Maybe swap DAF and OHMSS Though the whole thing is ludicrous anyways

Chronologically perfect watch order. Excuse me while I go hit my head against hard objects.

They lost me at making Goldfinger 3rd. It was such a weird choice, among many. Sometimes I wonder if they deliberately make stupid mistakes in these articles so fans tear them apart and drive views.

The best part was the "jump to the left" nod I really think that one day this channel will be called "Calvin jump to the left Dyson"

There's also the issue that in FYEO that Bond's Lotus gets blown up but then he's given it in TSWLE.

When I saw IGN & Calvin on my video feed, I thought Calvin was on IGN haha. Great video as always.

There are 2 TIMELINES in the James Bond universe. The 1st TIMELINE From Dr. No (1962) TO Die Another Day (2002). And then the 2nd TIMELINE Casino Royale (2006) TO No Time To Die (2021).

Saying bond is imagining M and Q and moneypenny just because of how old Roger, an actor is, is probably the most stupidest thing I've ever heard anyone say. I'm laughing my ass off, of how stupid was that sentence

Priceless watching your face when they suggest Moore's last 2 missions were in his head haha.

The octopussy/ View to a Kill idea works best if the reason for the old characters is the brain drill from Spectre

I find it interesting that Fleming did try to link the books together (where they frequently mentioned what had happened to Bond since last we saw him) and the films weren’t too concerned. I suppose it would’ve been quite limiting to the filmmakers to always open the films with Bond eating breakfast in his flat reflecting on his recent past (and, for audiences in the 60s and 70s, re-reading an old book would’ve been far easier than re-watching an old film) but I still like the little mentions they did make, like Sylvia Trench in FRWL and Felix in Goldfinger mentioning the events of Dr. No. Either way, when is May going to appear in a Bond film?

At so many points in this video: Calvin.exe has stopped working.

I ... didn't hate it, but the theory of how 'Spectre' (the movie) fits in was non-sensical dribble. Not saying the rest made perfect sense by any means, but at least you can kinda, sorta, almost see how they were cutting the jigsaw pieces to form something resembling vague-but-not-quite-there coherence. An interesting effort sans 'Spectre'.

Really enjoyed your review of The Spy Who Loved Me, I watched it recently so the film was fresh in my memory.

For the Bond experienced other stuff I just say "Bloodstone" and "Goldeneye:Reloaded" happened

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Calvin, your running commentary helped make the IGN video somewhat bearable. On its own the IGN piece is a complete clusterfork.

I honestly appreciate the effort this video puts in, and it offers an interesting order to re-watch the movies, but you’re totally right about continuity being pretty much irrelevant. In the end, it’s the same as the code name theory, which retroactively tries to ascribe continuity to a franchise which has almost none. You have to sort of view each film as it’s own thing, and sometimes treat different eras as different continuities. I personally like to think of the first 16 movies as being one franchise, which had absolutely zero continuity between films, and which must be appreciated individually. The Brosnan films are a sort of soft reboot, with reasonable continuity between themselves, and of course the Craig films are a hard reboot with a more modern conception of continuity.

Judi Dench’s M immediately throws this theory out the window: Dench’s M is clearly introduced to Bond in Goldeneye, with special emphasis put on Bond’s chauvinistic lifestyle vs a new female boss. Yet there she is, right at the beginning in Casino Royale. All the while IGN try to explain every other M Bond has had with this nonsense timeline..

This video left me wondering how would these IGN guys would've rationalized multiple Walter Gotell or Shane Rimmer's appearances. But going back to the whole Bond Continuity subject, I really like what John Logan said about DB5's appearance in Skyfall. He said that it's the part of the Bond Legacy and in context of the series it makes sense for the creators to use certain things (Goldfinger-style DB5 in Skyfall, garrote-watch in AVTAK deleted scene, appearance of Jaws in EON videogame, etc) as a part of the big Bond Legacy. And for example when I watch Skyfall and see Bond as a physical wreck, I shouldn't think about the context of the previous two films. I should think about the 50-years-long history of the series. Very good video, Calvin! Looking forward to join the Operation Phoenix 👍

If they are seriously trying to make sense of the chronology, I wonder how IGN would react to this video I made earlier kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bqh1bMxpyNCYhIU.html Must be mind-bending for them to see a follow up to No Time to Die titled A Reason To Die with a different actor and returning cast from SPECTRE

I thought it was a Fun enough way of making it work on the timeline... and the idea of Old Man Roger telling Madeline he's going on a business trip and doing His later movies was incredible. The chase in Paris thinking of madaline in a hotel somewhere thinking they're having a dirty weekend whilst Rog is running up the eiffel tower

Personally I would put a bit more thought in the orders of Goldfinger, Moonraker, the Spy Who Loved Me , but overall I actually quite liked this fan theory. As a Diamonds fan though I like to think about that as a post-Majesty’s scenario (i.e. the quip “I tend to notice little things like that, whether a girl is a blonde, or a...brunette (referring to Tracy)) and the hallucination comes here instead of Octopussy and AVTAK. Surprisingly it’s not too bad for my taste. I praise their efforts though!

I love timelines and viewing orders, however, IGN's chronology feels much like a rushed first draft.

In Ian Fleming's books, James Bond first meets Blofeld in On Her Majesty's Service, which is why he disguised himself. It's a gross error in the film that he doesn't recognize him.

Hope you have been well and safe, Calvin! And I look forward to future bond game reviews. ❤️

Why is there a huge emphasis on making a timeline for it? Just watch it in order of release

I don’t think the list is awful but there are definitely plot holes

I just want to say that this video wasn't made by IGN but rather a channel called CineFix who only recently partnered with them. Cinefix produces great film analysis videos and some of the best top 10 movie lists and it's clear that they put a lot of thought and effort into their videos. This just seemed like a fun not-to-be-taken-seriously list they were probably commissioned to do by IGN. Anyway Cinefix is definitely worth checking out.

...and then Bond finds his long lost brother also named James. 'brother-James' was so glad to meet his long lost brother '007-James' that he renamed his son ''James Bond Junior'' 'James-Junior' was a bit annoyed with this, considering he was already 16 years old at the time. and he was fine with his original name ''Larry Bond'' but he grew to like it when his uncle '007-James' gave him his aston martin. he then earned the game from his uncle James, now hes heir to the name, James Bond.

Blofeld is always a problem when it comes to continuity. Though in my headcanon of the official Eon series up until 2002, the Charles Gray and Donald Pleasence Blofelds are clones, while the Eric Pohlmann, Telly Savalas and Robert Rietti versions are the real Blofeld (hence why Blofeld doesn't recognize Bond in OHMSS). I think the cloning idea from Diamonds actually saves a lot of headache trouble for me, since I like to think that Blofeld had been involved with cloning and genetics for a long time. However, the whole Blofeld in Spectre part of the video confused me as much as it did you, Calvin. So yeah, this video is really kinda baffling.

Keep these long videos coming Calvin, love it as always. Stay safe my man 👍

It is possible that we can categorize the films into four separate timelines of the same character. 1. Sean's films 2. OHMSS - LTK which has the Tracy reference. 3. Pierce's films which have the same background but no real callback to Tracy. 4. Daniel's films

You know, the video started off well enough, but then by the end... well I don’t think I’ve ever uttered ‘huh?’ more watching anything.

I don’t think any attempt to organise the Bond movies like this would gel well, but I appreciate that they attempted to do so in a way that gave Bond a clear character arc. It’s funny. I first saw that video before I began my rewatch of the Bond movies (from Dr. No to Spectre), and even though I’m only one movie in I already spotted a problem with this order I didn’t spot before, that Dr. No has Bond only recently having become a 00 agent, so it should probably be third in the list at the least.

Literally thought of your video when I saw their thumbnail lol.

I made my own chronology where James Bond starts in 1962 at the age of 26 and retires in 1986 after a 24-year career. He died in 1991 at the end of the Cold War at the age of 55. 1. Casino Royale (1962/ 1st Semester) 2. Quantun Of Solace (1962/2st Semester ) 3. Tomorow Never Dies (1963) 4.The World Is Not Enought (1964) 5. Die Another Day (1967) 6. Goldeneye (1970) 7. Skyfall (1971) 8. Dr. No (1972/1st Semester) 9. From Russia With Love (1972/2st Semester) 10. Live And Let Die (1973/1st Semester ) 11. The Man With The Golden Gun (1973/2st Semester) 12. Thunderball (1974) 13. Goldifinger (1975) 14. On Her Majestic Secret Service (1976) 15. Diamonds Are Forever (1977) 16. The Only Live Twaice (1978) 17. For Your Eyes Only (1980/ 1st Semester) 18. The Spy Who Loved Me (1980/ 2st Semester) 19. Moonraker (1981) 20. Octopussy (1982) 21. A View To A Kill (1983) 22. The Living Daylights (1984) 23. License To Kill (1985) 24. Spectre (1986) 25. No Time To Die (1991)

I love these videos. I saw your ranking of the Bond villains recently and you convinced me to take advantage of the quarantine by rewatching all the Bond movies from the start, one a day. I saw them all almost ten years ago and my tastes have changed so much that I found films I really disliked back then have greatly grown on me (Like From Russia with Love) and ones I held in high regard have fallen a bit (Like You Only Live Twice). Thanks so much for getting me back into these films.

31:36 I 100% agree with that. When there is continuity between the films it makes the most sense that way. All the same this explanation isn't to crazy compared to the "Official" Zelda timeline. I cannot imagine linking bond movies with the idea that maybe he failed one of the missions prompting this movie or if he succeeded it would prompt this movie. At the end of the day they are just great movies that can be enjoyed by themselves or in a row, if you accept that all the pieces don't line up completely.

4:56 actually that’s incorrect. The first Sean Connery bond films all had a continuous story, as did On Her Majesty’s Secret Service.

In John Gardner's books, the Specter had two other leaders. In the 2015 film Blofeld is a codename.

Plot Twist- This is actually how EON planned the movies 😂

1:54 My favorite Bond movie, it even beats GoldenEye. It's "The Spy with Her Majesty's Quantum Finger". With Q (Judi Dench) telling Bond (Roger Moore, George Lazenby, Daniel Craig, Sean Connery), that she never jokes about her work

In the Miami Beach scene in Goldfinger, Bond and Leiter mention 2 recent cases, one in Jamaica, where the "opposition got close". Those are obviously the cases in the first two movies so Goldfinger cannot be placed ahead of them.

I think I’ll stick with taking each Bond on it’s own merits and try not overthink what’s meant to be a bunch of fun romps. The books on the other hand...

Yeah, that IGN video description should discredit the rest of the video entirely. IGN should stick to video games, tv & movies they actually know something about. This...this was dumb. Thanks for making this video, Calvin! You’re the real fan! IGN should have had you consult on it.

Every actor who came in for the role, you have to assume that James Bond started 10 years earlier. Except Daniel Graig who was a rebound. Sean Conery/George Lanzeby, 1950s; Roger More, 60s; Timothy Dalton, 70s; Pierce Brosnan, 80s.

11:20 the lad genuinely said “I’m making a video about a way to make it chronically accurate but I’ll just throw in a random thing that I know cannot make any sense”

They're just movies and you don't need to make a whole damn theory to enjoy them

Its just different actors playing the role. Things do change up a bit to fit the times. And at times they added elements from other big film ideas at the time ie: Blaxploitation in LALD, 70s kung fu films on MWTGG, Star Wars in Moonraker. Aids epidemic taking foot during Daltons run. Mujarhadeen, and using an Arms dealer as villian in LD. At times there is moments in films alluding to others. Spy, FYEO, TWINE making nods to Bond married. Octopussy. Moore was showing his age, but tarzan yell aside, this film was brilliant. It has a few hiccups like the yell, but it never detracts from a well written story. Louis Jordan plays, i feel the best villian opposite Moore, aside Kananga. The auction scene, The awesome casino Backgammon scene. Magdas stunning spiral down from the balcony. Maud Adams Octopussy. India so beautiful, when Bond arrives there. Gobinda tipping a nod to Oddjob crushing the dice. A grand pre title sequence where Bond must use clever ingenuity to blow up the hanger. A Great villian scheme, in using Octopussys circus to smuggle jewels. Only to reveal the villians real scheme, in detonating a nuclear device on an US military base in Germany, that would cause Europe to unalateral dissarmament. Allowing Orluv to make Russia great again. And Kan reaps all the wealth. The film played out as a mystery. Why 009 was dressd as a clown stumbling into the home, and with the egg.

I take James Bond, for what it is. I have no problem with Bond being the same person, even when I was 12, I never questioned it. And, that is why I love your videos Calvin. You make so much sense, and every one is a treat to watch. And that's from someone, whose the same age, as Roger Moore was in a view to a kill.

I have my own crinology which considers that each movie takes place in 1 year from 1962 to 1986 and Bond dies in 1991.