you can disable igpu by shooting it with a handgun.

@@Joker-no1fz That will be disabling your laptop, I think some people won't like that, lol.

I think I found the american

@@Navinkumar-hn3nd *r/whooooosh*

What USB-C to display port cable do you use? I see you use an RGB one in a lot of your reviews

Plot twist indeed

More like Optimus Primal

Damn. Those movies were fun to watch until the story got so bad that it's sad.

+300% with celeron 😎

Is that Sarcasm because I just bought an ASUS ROG Strix G15 and was wondering if that is true.

@@marsbars5941 it is a joke. To unlock the full performance on the g15 strix you will need a external monitor (it has no mux switch) . I returned mine. Got way to hot and it is under performing compared to the legion 5 line-up.

@@TechTyrial What kind of external monitor would you recommend?

@@marsbars5941 any 144hz 1440p/1080p ips panel whichever resolution u prefer

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@@slaydog5102 😂😂

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Optimus primus

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Agreed. Hands down the most comprehensive and thought out reviews. Far better than LTT or Jayz2cents

Jarrod is amazing, but Dave2D is, and always will be the laptop guy

@@kyuwoo. (to you)

@@kyuwoo. Those two deserved the title. Jarrod is massively focused on technical practice and Dave is more keen to the experience and immersion.

@@kyuwoo. Absolutely false. What are you on? Dave2D doesn't care at all about performance. He'll recommend a laptop just cause it looks nicer. Absolutely 0 critical decision-making

I wish I waited for the legions with rtx 30 series, but I got the aorus 15g xc with i7 10870h 32gb ram and rtx 3070 105w. It’s a great laptop, but the legion is superior. Also the power is on the right side on the aorus, but at least it has a mux.

Of all the weird shit asus does, i can't blame them on this one. Dell has $4k laptops without mux, so does a lot of ultra high end laptop builders. Like the bad ram, I think manufacturers were blindsided on how big of a performance hit this caused, both figured out by jarrods tech afaik. My man needs consulting bonuses from companies lol.

We all know that RGB equals 50% more fps

@@TechTyrial 69%

@@LeFatalpotato the Dell X17 has display options with Advanced Optimus. Asus offers exactly *one* model with a mux switch and that is the S17, and not even on all display options.

The S17 has advanced optimus, which is better than MUX. Don't worry too much, I'm sure future models would have them. They will all jump on that trend

Glad you like them!

My pleasure!

@Dragon Rip I had a Precision M6800, and there was a setting in BIOS called switchable graphics. You want that off. Only works if there is a discrete GPU installed.

I don’t understand why because the mux switch was advertised to do the exact opposite

Glad it was helpful!

Glad I could help!

Sucks that they make you deal with Optimus and you can’t even turn it off unless you spend extra money on a monitor. So annoying

Bought and promptly refunded wd:Legion because of the microstutters. How were you able to achieve this? Did you just turn off hybrid mode in Lenovo Vantage? I'm hoping to eliminate microstutters on my Legion 5 3060. Because it's very noticeable especially at high framerates

@@k7880 Yeah turn off hybrid mode in vantage, system will want to restart. I couldn't believe the difference it made. Only downside is it will use battery faster when unplugged but its easily enabled again if you need more battery life.

Especially csgo

I haven't forgotten about it. I actually made this video about a month ago and haven't had the Legion 7 in ages, but I did recently buy the newest 5, so once the reviews are done I'll probably use that. It's going to be like a solid week testing just for one video which is why it keeps getting put off.

Ah I see. Take all the time you need. I’d rather wait and watch a well tested video than watch a rushed video right away.

@@JarrodsTech you need to do comprehensive 7 vs 7i both with 3080 and good ram when the 7i comes out!

Hp victus??

@@vivektheking2725 I had ordered the Gigabyte Aorus 15p, but I now have a legion 5 pro due to other issues from the 15p

@@TyTystick I’m considering buying Aorus 15 xe4, could you please tell me what issues did you experience?

X1 R1 with: -i7 since the i9 gets too hot -RTX 3080 for the 165W TGP -32GB atleast since the 16GB version uses high density sticks -1080p 360Hz screen for the best gaming experience (wish they had a QHD version)

I have to disagree on the i9. Adjusted the fan curves, undervolted and it ran at 80-88°C under full load and at max 93°C with an overclock

Make sure you tune your CPU settings, Nvidia Control Panel settings as well as windows settings. This can reduce the power consumption both on GPU and CPU. Hope this helps :)

@@opness5275 I did all sorts of experiments and managed to see the battery pointing to the 7++ hr mark, but it's very inconsistent. As soon as I start doing anything different than reading a text doc (f.x. youtube at 720p) hours cut in half.

Never take these reviews seriously.. you can watch it for reference and to get some idea about the product but don't rely completely on it .. as the unit THEY receive is better in certain aspects (i think so).. also Jerrod literally knows everything about laptops so he knows what settings to change and how to get maximum battery time ... It might not be possible for us to know Everything in that much detailed ..we might not even know some settings as we are obviously not as invested in laptops as he is. So just take these KZfaq reviews for reference .. don't take it as 100% true.

There should be no issue with that as long as you're happy to reboot to change it every time. I will have an Advanced Optimus video coming up next week which might interest you.

Nicce

He deserves it for all those times he summoned a trailer from mid air. He’s a witch!!

There won't be any "dummy plug". Because the laptop screen is wired to onboard graphic (intel uhd/ amd vega), then the onboard graphic to the GPU. It is no way for the laptop screen to bypass the onboard graphic (with only optimus). In contrast, the hdmi, usb c(display port) are usually wired directly to the GPU so that's why it bypass the optimus system.

I am also satisfied with disabling Optimus in hp omen 15 rtx 2060 tdp 100watt;))) I play in 1440p on External monitor man;)))

Honestly I just thought the older video was garbage compared to my newer standard of production quality and I also thought I could explain the topic a lot clearer. But yeah it might be interesting to see how much future iGPUs limit, if advanced optimus or similar becomes easy to implement there may be no need.

I know it's been two years, but I'll leave this here for anyone who stumbles upon the comment. For longevity, whether you use optimus or not doesn't really make a difference. Both the CPU and GPU are going to last just as long, independently of which you choose. The battery longevity could be affected if the laptop isn't plugged in though. With optimus off, when you're just using the GPU, it drains the battery much faster. If you use the laptop while it isn't plugged in often, you probably want optimus on. You shouldn't be gaming or doing any resource intensive tasks without it plugged in, so you don't really need the extra performance from the GPU. Obviously if the battery is quickly draining and being recharged constantly, that could impact the longevity of the battery. Long story short, no, don't worry too much about the longevity of the laptop. Assuming you're doing all the required maintenance, it will be fine. The only real concern could be the battery if the laptop is often used while not plugged in over a long period of time, in which case I would refer you to your battery settings. Usually there are options to limit the amount of charge the battery can hold to help protect it in the long run.

@@Beanpolr I appreciate the response man thanks, as a quick question can you give me a list of all the required maintenance you mentioned, just for cross checking In general i try to keep battery levels between 30 and 90%, dont leave it without charge, game on battery and all Longevity is important to me due to being a broke college student , really needed a laptop to last me 4 years atleast till i can earn money, it has being going strong for 2 years now though :)

@@pranavchopra_0075 For maintenance, the biggest thing is to monitor the performance and temperatures, especially when gaming. That'll alert you pretty early if something is starting to go wrong or become less efficient for some reason. As for actual maintenance tasks, the most important thing with a laptop is make sure the fans are clean and cleared, along with the heatsink. You can open up most laptops and clean dust and debris from the fans, but oftentimes it will also build up further in where you cannot see. In those cases sometimes you might have to send it to someone to fully clean, as it's not always easy to access certain internals. Depending on your environment, I would probably at least try to clear the fans out once every couple months. To prevent buildup I wouldn't use it in bed, or in areas with a lot of dust (so if possible keep it away from areas pets frequent). The fans are the most important thing, as airflow is what cools your components and stops them from melting themselves. Other than that, make sure all your software is kept up to date as much as possible, that way the possible causes of issues are narrowed down if they arise. You could also look into replacing the thermal paste, but that doesn't have to be done regularly. If you've had it for a couple years it might be worth doing. That shouldn't be a big issue though, most laptops are good as far as that goes. Other than that, you should be fine. If everything is working good, don't worry about it. Sounds like you're doing your best to take care of it. I wouldn't be worried unless you notice some unusual behavior or reductions in performance.

@@Beanpolrthank you 👍

some shithead will complain about battery life, buying gaming laptop and wants longer BL lol

no it’s the same

Considering U processor laptops come with much smaller batteries there is no real way to do a fair comparison. But most of those laptops get 6-8 hours of battery life. Sometimes more depending on the use case. And the Lenovo 7 in this video can get those level of battery use with optimus on by just having a larger battery. So if it had a U level processor it would have much better battery life.

That would make a cool experiment, I had an i7 8750h gtx 1060 laptop that lasted on battery no longer than 1 hour (not playing just browsing the web or doing some word) and when I was outside I used to turn down the tdp to 20 watts for boost and it did the trick, really got at least 3 hours of battery out of it, the problem was that the frequency also suffered very very much, specially the boost clock for single core couldn't reach anything beyond 2.9ghz (from 4.1 on the normal tdp) so it became a weird experience, U CPUs on the other hand are designed to reach better boost clocks with those lower tdps, but that was on an Intel chip, pretty sure an AMD one will do better, I'll update this comment in two weeks when my Ryzen laptop arrives

@Vikas Dewangan It depends. My gaming laptop has a 3 way Switchable Graphics: iGPU only, Nvidia Optimus, dGPU only (aka MUX). The former actually disables Nvidia GPU entirely. I might suspect power limiting with Throttlestop the CPU to low wattages might can get results really similar to U processors.

Bro fr, tarkov is such a horrendous game to run on a decent gaming laptop.

I have a 2019 base model. I’m pretty sure you can’t. But you can on the newest razer blades. I wouldn’t sweat about it, if you use gaming mode, the system overclocks the GPU and CPU, I think this makes up for optimus.

Yeah

Wait is it the legion y540 because I just ordered one and its arriving today

@@Emma_madison Yes legion y540 does have optimus

@@Emma_madison nah legion 5i but my brother has the y540 and it runs the same with same specs

You aint lying

But can’t seem to find any difference in FPS in my own tests.

@@Prince_Pig what laptop and what games?

@@Supcharged tried Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. Only tried the in game benchmark on both cases. Using the last gen Legion 5 with the RTX 2060.

@@Prince_Pig Really? SotTR was one game Jarrod found big gains

I’m sure he will. It will be a great part 2 with Tiger lake vs Cezanne this time with a 3080 max p.

I plan on reviewing it when I am able to get a hold of one.

You can check that in your nvidia graphics properties. It will show whether the hdmi is connected to the gpu directly or not.

Yes, it is possible. For example, Asus G17 has its HDMI port connected to the iGPU resulting in no boost performance. However, its USB Type-C port is connected to the dGPU, so in that case you would notice an improved performance when connecting an external monitor through it. As the previous comment said, it will depend on your laptop's particular model and configuration. You can check it in Nvidia's control panel.

Yes exactly, but your thunderbolt port is always iGPU. So you could just use this.

How did u do it?

@@Pxblz it was like that out of the box, must be permanent since I didn't find any way to enable it

That’s why you look for laptops with Gsync displays.

What i did to compromise was just turn on vsync in control panel, and off in games. Higher input is the only con, but i think its slight negated by the higher fps(higher fps=less dellay) i could be wrong on that but it makes sense to me.

Seconded!

It's too inconsistent because it's an online game. Every game he uses is one he can use the same scenario in all reviews.

@@DarrenKrusi that makes no sense really as the difference in performance is only impacted by the number of players in each team. If that is the case then the practice range fps values can be used

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I'd rather have a Legion 5 Pro Advantage Edition with 6800M

@@CaptainChrom not a bad idea, but the vapor chamber cooling and Liquid metal are kinda what made it for me

@@awsan111 Lenovo's Coldfront 3.0 Cooling System is so friggin good that it doesn't need a Vaporchamber. It can easily use both the CPU and GPU at full power without throttling or getting to warm. The vaporchamber and liquid metal thermal paste inside the G15 are wasted and just increase the cost because a shit ton of performance is lost due to the missing MUX-Switch.

@@CaptainChrom wont disagree, Love the legion line, using it as we speak. But seeing the G15 max at under 80c at full loud is beautiful

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