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@elgunlee4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Google: Hey boss we made an on-screen keyboard app and it is only 300MB
@xtcrider82704 жыл бұрын
Google's full of spyware
@drxgncs904 жыл бұрын
@@xtcrider8270 Use Bing then. oh wait...
@AnonymousGentooman4 жыл бұрын
@@drxgncs90 duckduckgo
@joroc4 жыл бұрын
Hey! It has gif support! And voice detector. And dictionary. 🤣🤣🤣
@tatanyave4 жыл бұрын
Duckduckgo or startpage
@xFrizix4 жыл бұрын
The second game should be named floppy-bird, what a missed opportunity :D
@TWX11384 жыл бұрын
That was too big for the available space.
@memes_gbc6744 жыл бұрын
@@TWX1138 or maybe because f-bird kinda sounds like f-word?
@dosnostalgic4 жыл бұрын
There's one that's called Floppy Bird as well. Available as both a booter and a proper DOS program.
@lifeincolour094 жыл бұрын
@@memes_gbc674 Or flip-bird as in flip the bird.
@bored_person4 жыл бұрын
@@kblake5466 I doubt that doug would care. He deleted the original game.
@zoltanposfai34514 жыл бұрын
A couple of friends at university in the nineties had to write a boot sector software. (They had to measure tracer density in water in a cavern that was dropped into water on the surface.) They only had some old PC (XT or 286) and no hard-drive, so the boot sector approach was an obvious choice (also more resilient in a cavern than a HDD). They gave the project to a developer company. After a month or so, they asked for some status. The company said that they are making good progress, they have already shrunk the software to some 520 kB or so. Then, they were told that there must have been some misunderstanding. The constraint was 512 bytes and no 512 kB. So, it came back to the university where they wrote it in 514 bytes in two days. Then spent another two weeks to remove further 2 bytes.
@fders9383 жыл бұрын
Dang, 1 byte a week
@amineabdz3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile i'm struggling to queue threads on Python.
@zoltanposfai34513 жыл бұрын
@@amineabdz Just as with hardware, languages are being abstracted farther and farther away from "the computer". This has loads of benefits. My issue is that people who can do low level programming (C and below) are disappearing because most well-paying jobs are for languages like for example Python, and new generations usually aim for the top 5 best paying languages. While for example starting with a sound C foundation, learning OO languages is not particularly difficult, someone who has only done high level programming will struggle to ever go the other way.
@electricspider22673 жыл бұрын
there's times where 1 does not equal 1. First experience with this made me very frustrated. I wrote a debug message after each line showing the value and the expected value and whether they match. So confused when it got to where it said "1,1,false" meaning 1 = 1 returns false aka 1 does not equal 1. So what i did was just take the value multiplied by 1 and all of a sudden it showed "1,1,true" My guess is somehow the value was converted to a string and multiplying it would either force it into a number or throw an error.
@sheditz49623 жыл бұрын
@@zoltanposfai3451 "people who can do low level programming (C and below) are disappearing" laughs in printf. (but seriously though yeah i absolutely hate python for how slow and clunky it feels to use.
@brianmangan24594 жыл бұрын
"With all those ghosts chasing him, I hope they're xanax" best line of the year.
@StasConstantine4 жыл бұрын
took my comment lol Benadryl pills - the pills ARE the reason he sees ghosts
@atartup4 жыл бұрын
@@StasConstantine lmaoo few people will get that
@rosiefay72833 жыл бұрын
@@atartup Which could apply to Brian Mangan's comment. xanax -- wtf??
@maskedredstonerproz3 жыл бұрын
remove the last x and you have a code lyoko reference
@gillianross72253 жыл бұрын
HAHHAHAH SO FUNNY BRO
@formdusktilldeath4 жыл бұрын
Funny how Tetris is the game analogy for this because it’s also about fitting as much as possible into a confined space
@tristan65094 жыл бұрын
@@DanLoudShirts lmao Tetris is the #1 best selling game, the #2nd is Minecraft
@dylan101820004 жыл бұрын
tristan 123455 actually, Minecraft is #1 and Tetris is #2 now
@fardnia94344 жыл бұрын
dylan10182000 aycktuallyyyy
@dylan101820004 жыл бұрын
mambo bruh
@CDP-18024 жыл бұрын
The system disk message part blew my mind.
@gorebrush4 жыл бұрын
Me too, all these years and I've probably never registered a difference
@zanfr1234 жыл бұрын
Same, I had always assumed it was part of the BIOS and not the boot sector itself...
@citronovykolac4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a similar "wait what" as with Playstation 2 logo during game boot. The actual playstation 2 logo animation is stored on game disc
@joshuanorris58604 жыл бұрын
@@zanfr123 yeah i guess every time we format it sneaks in there ha
@ltfreeborn4 жыл бұрын
huh never thought i would have heard that from a computer
@johncmeyer58324 жыл бұрын
"Boot Sector Games" sounds like it could be the name of an indie developer.
@eduardoavila6464 жыл бұрын
I may or may not stea.. i mean use your idea
@muhunun4 жыл бұрын
Thank bro
@gemstonegynoid74754 жыл бұрын
Game dev branch of Normsl Boots
@MaxUgly4 жыл бұрын
That track on the floppy disk would be a cool logo Edit: can I be a part of your company? My state just issued a shelter in place order..
@Moviesxp3 жыл бұрын
Cough lion studios cough
@whuzzzup4 жыл бұрын
2019: Hey look we made this game only 99 GB in size, so you don't have to download too much.
@white_mage4 жыл бұрын
fun fact: they dont care how big the game is
@rayzen_undogen4 жыл бұрын
i think you mean 2029
@wirytiox15774 жыл бұрын
@@rayzen_undogen im downloading with 15Mbits a game that is 81GB
@zombieslayer14684 жыл бұрын
LOL
@theteddychannel85294 жыл бұрын
Modern warfare is 150 GB... My rtx 2080 and i7 sometimes struggle to run that absolute madness of a game
@Leurak4 жыл бұрын
The game actually has to fit into 510 bytes, because it contains a signature at the end to make the bios recognize the disk properly. Not that big of a difference but interesting to point out.
@bloodypommelstudios71444 жыл бұрын
Neh 2 bytes can be a big difference when you've only got 510 to play with.
@MattiasRehn4 жыл бұрын
could those 2 bytes be used as some sort of random variables maybe?
@knightoflambda4 жыл бұрын
@@MattiasRehn yah that's a valid code golfing strategy. also, treating code as data, data as code
@saultube444 жыл бұрын
@@MattiasRehn Nope, The signature is 55AA
@CsBence984 жыл бұрын
@@saultube44 Yes, but you can re-use it as variable RAM once the BIOS has JMPed to your code. And also, there's a little descriptor struct at the beginning of a floppy boot sector, but I don't know if the BIOS actually checks it. If it does, then you've only got ~450 bytes. I've once written an "OS" in Assembly that fit in the bootsector. I wrote OS in quotes, because all it could do was echo, reboot and shutdown. I also added a help command, but there was not enough space for the help text (the final binary was exactly 512B), so it just printed "No one can help you..." :P
@LaskyLabs4 жыл бұрын
"With all those ghost chasing him I hope it's xanax." Oh jeez I didn't expect that kinda joke.
@azyfloof4 жыл бұрын
Biggest oof 🤣
@BasedBidoof4 жыл бұрын
too real
@vinesthemonkey4 жыл бұрын
8 bit guy poppin xans and coding
@ohnoitschris4 жыл бұрын
Boot sector pac man is suicidal 😰
@ahandsomefridge4 жыл бұрын
It's fine, don't worry about it
@RCAvhstape4 жыл бұрын
Efficiency in coding: a lost art
@ulysses45364 жыл бұрын
Efficiency in coding is still there and will always remain at some level. It’s just that there are many more use cases when there is no need to push devices to their limit. But there are still people fighting bits and cycles just so that higher level coder could afford using JavaScript to control a kettle.
@lillyanneserrelio21874 жыл бұрын
@@ulysses4536 Windows coders need to watch this. Every Windows edition grew in size. I remember the entire Win3.1 OS took barely 40MB
@lillyanneserrelio21874 жыл бұрын
@Too Wun If the Windows OS bloated growth is the fault of *drag & drop coders, they should be drawn & quartered* And/Or tarred & feathered 😆
@AdiposeExpress4 жыл бұрын
@@lillyanneserrelio2187 I though drag and drop programming languages were mostly for learning (like Scratch), are you saying that Microsoft uses something like Scratch for development?
@JoHn-gi1lb4 жыл бұрын
It's still there and called optimization
@Shazam9994 жыл бұрын
“Tetros” “Oh, you mean Tetris” “Shhh, you wanna get sued, boy?”
@LaskyLabs4 жыл бұрын
USSR: We own it. Clearly.
@tralphstreet4 жыл бұрын
Does anybody own tetris' rights btw?
@johncrowerdoe55274 жыл бұрын
@@tralphstreet Yeah, I think most of the rights now belong to a few of the original creators who emigrated to the west.
@BrendonGreenNZL4 жыл бұрын
No, it's clearly TetrisOS. 😎
@7n7o3 жыл бұрын
not to try and bring u down or anything but its TetrOS cause its in place of an os / bios
@8_Bit4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning my games Minima and Splatform! :)
@hqqns4 жыл бұрын
I love your channel, will you cover these in it? BTW I read your comment with your voice in my head :)
@8_Bit4 жыл бұрын
@@hqqns Thanks, I should do that sometime. Gotta dig up the source code for them!
@VectraQS4 жыл бұрын
The fact that this has a heart is the first evidence I've ever seen of The 8-Bit Guy reading comments.
@8_Bit4 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab It's a Commodore 64 game. If you search csdb.dk for "Minima Reloaded" you'll find a good crack of it from 2017 you can download.
@8_Bit4 жыл бұрын
@KoivuTheHab I've never done a physical release of the game, but there are several solutions for transferring files from modern computers to the C64. Zoom Floppy lets you hook a 1541 drive up to a PC/Mac via USB, SD2IEC or uIEC lets you load files from SD cards on your C64, and if you want the best (and can afford it), there's the 1541 Ultimate.
@askhowiknow55274 жыл бұрын
I always though “Invalid system disk” was part of the BIOS!!
@zanfr1234 жыл бұрын
same! I am shocked! and amused! and I find it cute in a way, all the workarounds involved in making stuff work... I dunno
@painkiller56574 жыл бұрын
I guess there's 2 in the bios. One when no disk is inserted and two when the inserted disk's boot sector cannot be read. Anyway I thought the same, that all of the msgs are located in the bios.
@intel386DX4 жыл бұрын
me too , but you got the similar massage with unformulated diskette, or no IBM compatible one ,how?
@TWX11384 жыл бұрын
If I remember right (it's been years) the BIOS will output something like, "sector not found," if there's no usable information in the boot sector.
@StefanoBorini4 жыл бұрын
i learned this when backing up boot sectors with dd in case of lilo messing up, it is indeed an obscure piece of trivia
@Scrubbles4 жыл бұрын
I did not expect that Red Dwarf reference in Basic.
@motogoat4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtGalbCgz5auiWg.html
@khatharrmalkavian33064 жыл бұрын
FISH!
@bjorn-falkoandreas94724 жыл бұрын
@@khatharrmalkavian3306 Today's fish is trout a la creme.
@Killerthealmighty4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your meal
@CossieChris4 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna eat you little fishies.... "
@frydemwingz4 жыл бұрын
"you can change this message to anything." I called the cops and reported you for sorcery.
@SeaJay_Oceans4 жыл бұрын
"I'm Sorry Dave, I can't boot from that."
@aidancommenting4 жыл бұрын
"Excuse me sir, what seems to be the problem?" *"Harry Potter deleted my boot sector."*
@themixgenius19934 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone *modded/hacked* a system disk message and put a message that says "No keyboard detected, press any key to continue", that will be a perfect prank on incoming April Fools.
@mityaboy46394 жыл бұрын
Frenz Vargas and that wasnt even a prank back when we ad AT keyboards - the bios message literally said: “Keyboard not found or keyboard error. Press F1 to continue” i mean obviously this depends on the BIOS you had on your motherboard... but still... :)
@Xonasa14 жыл бұрын
@@mityaboy4639 Microsoft did the same, when Mouse on Windows did not worked, the Troubleshoot said click on Start...
@pqhkr20024 жыл бұрын
@@Xonasa1 But Start menu can be operated by keyboard. May be they should say push "Windows" bottom on key board then use arrow keys.
@RobA5004 жыл бұрын
@@Xonasa1 And who can forget the Windows can not find drivers for your modem. Would you like to connect to the internet to download them.
@VectraQS4 жыл бұрын
@@mityaboy4639 This lasted into at least the late 1990s... My Win98 Gateway box does this, and the BIOS is dated 8/1999!
@Hikarmeme4 жыл бұрын
7:07 Love the Red Dwarf reference
@kinderbueno90184 жыл бұрын
I looked in the comments to find this specifically
@sircompo4 жыл бұрын
@@kinderbueno9018 me too
@BuckyOhYeah4 жыл бұрын
@@sircompo Me Three...
@azyfloof4 жыл бұрын
I've been fished to death! 🐟😭
@jodywales67604 жыл бұрын
You gotta love KAT.
@boombaby17694 жыл бұрын
I remember the magic of the early demo scene. Put a floppy into my Amiga, it reads for a second, and then some unbelievable high class graphics stuff and awesome music pops up. Good times.
@Kylefassbinderful3 жыл бұрын
KZfaqr: MattKC actually made a snake game that is small enough to fit on one single QR code label. It's quite impressive.
@canaDavid13 жыл бұрын
Year but this was 512 bytes. His was 2.9k
@EasonTek3 жыл бұрын
His was 1k ish
@computer_dude3 жыл бұрын
@@canaDavid1 Still, he programmed a .exe, not a bootloader.
@thatguynamedgeorge92183 жыл бұрын
@@computer_dude Tru, it does still make his accomplishment impressive because of that.
@canaDavid13 жыл бұрын
@@20blog28 bootloaders are harder, as you have to write all i/o routines yourself, where an exe can use syscalls.
@LunaTheStars4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1 million subs
@joshuanorris58604 жыл бұрын
Woah. Yeah!
@Hacks4AllVideos4 жыл бұрын
I hope it's legit and not KZfaq rounding up the numbers , but congrats!!! Still a lot of people!! :)
@C0mmentC0p4 жыл бұрын
@@Hacks4AllVideos youtube round-down the numbers, so if you have 1,000,102 subscribers it will show as 1,000,000 (1 million) and if you have 999,928 subscribers it will show as 999,900 or 999K - i'm unsure how youtube actually round the numbers but they're definitely rounded down in a way to not over compensate for nothing.
@Aquagamer2244 жыл бұрын
About time! Should’ve got this more than a year ago
@ahandsomefridge4 жыл бұрын
Many fellow nerds exist on the internet, yay!
@sgerar374 жыл бұрын
David, your guess is right regarding the pixels that are probably being used as variable space (5:47). According to Oscar Toledo's explanation in his book, he made this decision to take advantage of the BIOS video-mode setup routine clearing the entire screen memory; this way, his variables are automatically initialized to zero, saving the few bytes of code required to perform this necessary initialization - talk about extreme optimization!
@jeremypeters-fransen19014 жыл бұрын
I figured for sure it was so that data only had to sent to one sector of the memory. Which would actually save even fewer bytes.
@ashcrimp4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremypeters-fransen1901 I'm not sure that really makes sense. There are multiple data registers in x86, so there's no reason you should need any code to switch to a data storage segment and back to the video memory or anything like that. I suppose it would save setting the extra segment register, saving a mov instruction. EDIT: actually thinking about it more, you could be right. Not in terms of switching segments, but in potentially saving on segment overrides in instructions. Though it might be doable using the string registers since they default to the es segment. My first guess was that it was a debug feature. Having variables in video ram so you could track them.
@BrendonGreenNZL4 жыл бұрын
@@ashcrimp yes, there are at least four segment registers (CS, DS, ES, and SS). However, using a non-default segment register for the operation at hand costs an extra byte for the "segment override" instruction prefix. It's much cheaper to set DS and ES to the same value (along with SS and CS, if you can get away with it) and live with the fact you can only access 64KiB of memory.
@ashcrimp4 жыл бұрын
@@BrendonGreenNZL yep, you're right, I was wrong. I thought that di and si indexing defaulted to the es segment. But testing it on qemu it looks like that may only be the case for string instructions. The stack is another option because it definitely doesn't use the data segment for memory access, but some quick tests with my disassembler makes me doubt that'd be any more optimized unless maybe you're only holding a tiny amount of data in memory.
@MacIn1734 жыл бұрын
@@ashcrimp "I thought that di and si indexing defaulted to the es segment. But testing it on qemu it looks like that may only be the case for string instructions." ds:si/es:di for lods/stos
@sluskafan4 жыл бұрын
3:45 "The viruses were just small programs living in the boot sector." Sounds like a start of a great story. So curious to hear what happens next.
@Johninadelaide20224 жыл бұрын
They evolve by spreading from machine to machine.... lol
@Johninadelaide20224 жыл бұрын
@@brentfisher902 No I was joking about them evolving as they spread and gaining sentience
@theiqoniq36074 жыл бұрын
They break out of the computer and mutate into COVID19
@melihcelik97973 жыл бұрын
Yup go see @danooct1
@Colt45hatchback Жыл бұрын
Junkie.mbr has entered the chat
@jwgmail4 жыл бұрын
"Now that you *definitely* know what a boot sector is" I like your confidence in your teaching ability! : )
@imnotfuckingusingthisaccou25744 жыл бұрын
It’s called your ability to learn so stfu
@stevebrettuk4 жыл бұрын
"Today's fish is trout a la creme" - haha! ...almost spilled my tea. I used to have a PC (a very long time ago when they were only just able to play actual audio files for the first time) that started up with that snippet of audio. "I will!" was neatly followed by the windows 3.1 startup screen as I recall. (it also had a period of asking me if I wanted any toast, and another when it announced that it's name was Eddie and it was feeling just great, guys) oh yeah :o) happy days, thanks for the memory, David!
@FireDragonAndromeda4 жыл бұрын
I recall the entire thing as being from Red Dwarf.
@MarkDell4 жыл бұрын
It totally was from the first season of Red Dwarf. What a wonderful and random reference.
@benjaminmiddaugh27294 жыл бұрын
When I first discovered AVG antivirus (in the Windows XP days), the documentation had a section explaining boot sector viruses. As a young person just getting into computers in a meaningful way, documentation like this was fascinating (and informative). I miss software documentation that actually explains the concepts behind what it's doing and not just how to make the program work.
@gerardveenhof86784 жыл бұрын
The vic 20
@aleksanderbudzynowski36254 жыл бұрын
Compare the C64 manual (which teaches you about BASIC programming, programming the music and graphics chips using hardware registers) to the silly little leaflet you get with a modern laptop that tells you how to plug in the power and headphones...
@skilz80984 жыл бұрын
@@aleksanderbudzynowski3625 That's the difference between documentation and references written by computer engineers than some Asian kid writing an instruction booklet in vague broken English with poorly drawn visual graphics...
@foersom59284 жыл бұрын
@@Cherokee93 But you have the amazing library called the Internet. When I was learning to program in the early 1980's it was a huge problem to find and own technical documentation beyond the simple Basic language of the computer. I learned to read English, German, Swedish, French, Dutch to get best tips to program MSX 8 bit computers.
@Cherokee934 жыл бұрын
@@foersom5928 school was was easier when you guys were in school teachers weren't just there for the money the usa school system is fucked the whole country is fucked right now
@nathanlamaire4 жыл бұрын
The fact that a boot sector actually isn't a boot position of the disk but a program is really a new knowledge for me.
@lusilusi86943 жыл бұрын
When the programmers had more fun making them than playing them brought a tear to my eye. Miss those days.
"Toledo" actually wrote a book on how to write boot sector game. He also wrote some very tiny chess program and one might be a boot sector chess. Familia Toledo is their company in Mexico that build sell distribute and support their own kind of computer. A few links to Oscar Toledo Gutierrez book, books would be welcome. But any search engine will bring you that too. More investigation on this amazing man and family might make a story for another videos too...
@kioarthurdane4 жыл бұрын
OMG, I love the Red Dwarf reference in your basic program!
@andrewosborne75444 жыл бұрын
This was a classic 8 bit guy episode! Loved it!!!!!!! Love this style, simple interesting topics!
@Sinistar19834 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more tech demos, they always fascinate me.
@bradcavanagh30924 жыл бұрын
Check out pouet.net for really cool demos in different size categories all the way down to 64 bytes!
@Stonemonkie14 жыл бұрын
@@bradcavanagh3092 down to 32 bytes, I've got one on there.
@bradcavanagh30924 жыл бұрын
@@Stonemonkie1 Mad props!
@DatOneCat4 жыл бұрын
@0:17 Thank you. Now I know where these particular set of sounds came from. I've always heard them used in other media to depict people who play video games and always thought they were just random sounds that weren't tied to anything.
@JacobP814 жыл бұрын
That's cool. The Packman and Space Invaders were really impressive.
@spyroledragon4 жыл бұрын
Someday they'll fit Doom in there. You'll see...
@3dlabs994 жыл бұрын
Yeah some guy will get Doom running on a toothbrush or something like that
@paulgraves13924 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's possible. The DOOM IWAD is about 10MB in size. At least what you would need to look at is creating a custom IWAD and perhaps customising a DOS sourceport like DOSDoom to be able to launch from the new IWAD.
@tux96564 жыл бұрын
An IWAD file? When you are working within the confines of 512 bytes, you don’t have the luxury of creating the layer of abstraction required for organizing data into files.
@common_c3nts4 жыл бұрын
You could make a doom style game with a top down view.
@EgoShredder4 жыл бұрын
Well it is on the Commodore VIC=20 from what I remember...... So who is up for making the Sinclair ZX81 1K version! :-D
@vimicito4 жыл бұрын
This kind of pursuit of efficiency really needs to become a thing again... Just because we've got all the memory in the world doesn't mean that programs should gobble it all up. Very impressive work by the developers that made the featured games!
@heywm4 жыл бұрын
1k Chess on the Sinclair ZX81 was remarkable.
@ArchangelMerlin3 жыл бұрын
This man snuck a Red Dwarf joke in. This is the best thing I've seen all day.
@Rikkoshaye4 жыл бұрын
That's so fun! I never even registered what a boot sector was before this video, so thanks for explaining it
@Iliek4 жыл бұрын
Now after you have registered this data into your storage banks you can interface with humans on the subject
@JohnJackson-mn4ts3 жыл бұрын
Nice Red Dwarf reference. “help! Food escape”
@ChapmanWorldOnTube2 жыл бұрын
"FISH!" - "Today's fish is trout a la creme. Enjoy your meal." A reference to an early episode of Red Dwarf, love it!
@nethascotx243 жыл бұрын
Me who cant even make snake: Wow so talented!
@EricTheCat4 жыл бұрын
I love it! This brings back memories of a very simple Tron game I wrote in ASM back in the 90s. I used debug to write it to the boot sector of a 3.5" floppy disk and called it "TronOS".
@fawzanfawzi99934 жыл бұрын
I believe Tetris is the most enjoyable game out of all boot sector games
@dosnostalgic4 жыл бұрын
Have you played Alley Cat?
@PatRiot-4 жыл бұрын
DOS Nostalgia I have not- nor have I heard of it. Feel free to name a few boot games worth playing
@dosnostalgic4 жыл бұрын
@@PatRiot- Alley Cat, Castle Wolfenstein, and original version of King's Quest are some of my favorites. Booter games weren't uncommon back in the day, and there are plenty of classics released that way. Tapper, BC's Quest for Tires, Lode Runner, Ghostbusters, Zork, etc.
@fredjones1004 жыл бұрын
@@dosnostalgic Those self-booting games are not the same thing as referred to here; the games in this video fit entirely into just the boot sector which is very impressive. I do remember playing Alley Cat (in monochrome CGA) in the 80s!
@dosnostalgic4 жыл бұрын
@@fredjones100 Yes, that is impressive that they are 512 bytes, but is it not impressive when all these other games also loaded and occasionally saved data without having to rely on DOS or a standard file allocation? ;) The principle is the same, so they are very much the same kinds of games to me, just very very small.
@ClassySuit4 жыл бұрын
5:02 "all the aliens look the same." nice one
@THX-vx8vm4 жыл бұрын
This channel never ceases to amaze me. That's why I love it. The8bitguy and techmoan, my top two faves.
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot4 жыл бұрын
Like the myth goes, “who would ever need more than 512 bytes of RAM?” ;-)
@barrybritcher4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Nice
@EvonixTheGreatest4 жыл бұрын
What's that from?
@pawelhener53384 жыл бұрын
Evonix Bill Gates - however it was „640k of memory ought to be enough for anyone“
@ABeardedDad4 жыл бұрын
Well y'kno, if you want a scoreboard for space invaders I guess.
@PeterRichardsandYoureNot4 жыл бұрын
Pawel Hener yes, it’s a play on the original
@MontieMongoose4 жыл бұрын
It's always impressive when you see a game that is really efficient with it's code. These are pretty cool.
@simpleNomadUK4 жыл бұрын
loving the Red Dwarf throwback!
@ivarsvilums4 жыл бұрын
Makes me remember when I was doing a project on the then new IBM PC back in late 1981 or early 1982. Things were new and undocumented and there were three OS's for it (CPM/86, UCSD P-System, and PCDOS) that were available but none had anything beyond simple terminal support and we needed to interact more intimately with the hardware to do everything that we wanted. We spent months going through the BIOS and probing with a logic analyzer to find what was where and how to make it do the things we wanted. At the time only the green Monochrome Display Adapter card and display were available and mass storage was limited to floppies. It turns out that that video hardware required a bit to be set on a port during boot to start the horizontal sync on the video card. Also, the floppy lead screw on the steppers did not have a stop at the end of the screw. I remember putting together a floppy with a short machine language program in the boot sector that would, in just a couple of seconds after starting the boot, turn the video sync off which literally caused the monitor to howl loudly and burn out with smoke coming out of the case while at the same time stepping the heads off the ends on the floppies (making very satisfying clunks inside the main box as the heads fell off) and finally loading up a really loud noise into the shift register feeding the speaker, setting it to free run, disabling interrupts, and halting the CPU. All you could do was turn the power off to stop it but it could not be started again. It was a hoot but we only booted on that disk once - it was a several hundred dollar repair bill to fix things - but kept a copy under glass in a box on the wall with the sign to break open in emergency. I think the whole program took up only two or three dozen bytes on the boot sector.
@seremix7743 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in Activision: * updates in Call of Duty now costs 300gb of free disk space *
@damienhartley18323 жыл бұрын
@Seremix: most of the COD update is troll faces and another such garbage which is just filling up space that way you will buy a new hard drive if you don't then cod is just going to DDOS your computer and maybe even your smartphone and your tablet and your refrigerator and basically anything that is connected to your Wi-Fi will be f*****because that's how they're going to make money.
@Anonymous5516562 жыл бұрын
@@damienhartley1832 Activision don't sell hard drives, so they have absolutely no interest in forcing you to by a new one. They don't make any money at all by doing that. The reason their files are so huge is simply because the available bandwidth and disk capacity is now so enormous that they don't _have_ to bother with optimisation. It would take days or weeks of paid employee time to actually optimise the code and graphics to decrease file sizes and from the business perspective that's an unnecessary waste of time and money.
@HAWXLEADER2 жыл бұрын
As a pirate I can relate
@mklzer02 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous551656 found the Activision executive
@Anonymous5516562 жыл бұрын
@@mklzer0 Nah, I have too much of a conscience and too low of a pay grade to be any kind of major company executive. If I was in charge of anything at Activision they'd be DRM free for starters.
@leeroy56394 жыл бұрын
“with all those ghosts chasing him, I hope they're xanax" - I lol'd
@lemius61544 жыл бұрын
Probably ecstasy if our poor friend is seeing ghosts
@LaikaLycanthrope4 жыл бұрын
@@lemius6154 LSD is a hell of a drug ...
@jeffreyboomhauer12044 жыл бұрын
They are 1mg klonopin
@superioropinion71164 жыл бұрын
You know what Pac stands for? PAC. Program and Control. He’s Program and Control Man. The whole thing’s a metaphor. All he can do is consume. He’s pursued by demons that are probably just in his own head. And even if he does manage to escape by slipping out one side of the maze, what happens? He comes right back in the other side. People think it’s a happy game. It’s not a happy game. It’s a fucking nightmare world. And the worst thing is? It’s real and we live in it.
@waltersobchak72753 жыл бұрын
@@LaikaLycanthrope not a drug it’s a sacrament
@ericwood37094 жыл бұрын
"Today's fish is trout a la creme. Enjoy your meal!" Awesome reference.
@memorekz4 жыл бұрын
"Fish!"
@dantreadwell74214 жыл бұрын
Oh smeg
@dangevin4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna eat you little fishie...
@yeal_takian4 жыл бұрын
What reference ?
@birdqueer72314 жыл бұрын
@@yeal_takian the British comedy scifi show Red Dwarf
@HelloKittyFanMan.4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Dave, your explanation of what a boot sector is, how it works, and what it's used for seems just as efficient as one of these bits of software that all fits onto one! Nicely done!
@hollyconnelly88714 жыл бұрын
*squee* a red dwarf reference cat: FISH computer: today's fish is trout a la creme, enjoy your meal cat: *stares at 5 or 6 containers previously ordered* i will
@Ohmloud4 жыл бұрын
Smeghead.
@charbomber1104 жыл бұрын
Now this takes "512 games in one" to a whole new level
@cst12294 жыл бұрын
One game in 512
@yookalaylee22894 жыл бұрын
David, Thank you for all of your videos about the 70s and 80s business and gaming computers. I was born in 1990 and missed all of the computers you review, restore, and demo on your channel. My memory starts at about the SNES and Windows 95 so its really interesting to hear about tech before my time. I'm sure future generations will appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge. Thanks so much and keep up the great work.
@Danielo5154 жыл бұрын
Man, not only you automatically made me come back to my childhood but you actually taught that boy something!
@l00t3R4 жыл бұрын
"I've been fished to death!" "Look out....Food escape!"
@janchristopherbredow20114 жыл бұрын
0:59 - When your eyes instantly explode.
@GermsOilCotten4 жыл бұрын
Just had to say I love this channel and look forward fo every video. Thanks for all the great content!
@ceruleanserpent3874 жыл бұрын
8-Bit guy, you rock!!
@gworfish4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never new that boot error message actually came off the boot sector. So cool!
@seantaft38534 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and thought this was about "loading games" (or "load in games" for our UK friends). Still, you learn something new every day.
@sailaab4 жыл бұрын
me too... and i was reminded of Druglord classicreload.com/druglord.html and i wondered how big might that have been .. in its most basic form. that game was so basic and yet it really made me take up reading and studying investing, equities.
@MrJWTH4 жыл бұрын
Sean Taft And how Namco got a patent for “inventing” them in the mid 90s.
@richardsellers86714 жыл бұрын
Loving your work, always informative and entertaining.
@Dyl_Apple4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 1,000,000 subscribers!!!🎊🎉🍾🎈
@EpicBenjo4 жыл бұрын
Trying to squeeze a game or program into as small a space as possible reminds me of this guy I knew that coded in Assembly. He would make such impossibly small yet relatively complex programs. It was mind boggling!
@kopuz.co.uk.4 жыл бұрын
7:09 I love the Red Dwarf reference that is my favorite scene.
@biscuitsalive2 жыл бұрын
“The challenge is seeing how much you can fit into a very confined space.” .... that’s what SHE said!
@beatchef4 жыл бұрын
7:00 Love the Red Dwarf reference :D FISH!
@AlanCanon22224 жыл бұрын
Caught that too!
@cockmaster68484 жыл бұрын
congrats on 1 million subscribers!
@OleSteffensen894 жыл бұрын
I've watched this channel for years to understand everything I did as a kid.
@jacksonisawesome4 жыл бұрын
happy one million. I've been watching your videos for 6 years. ever since "How much memory do you need? - Part 1" I've learned a lot about old gaming, old laptops, computer codes, game consoles. thanks David.
@Jezee2134 жыл бұрын
Hey David. Just want to say awesome job on all the content. I watched one of your videos for the first time last month and I'm hooked . Keep up the great work.
@psivewri4 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to a new 8-bit guy video :)
@Digits08014 жыл бұрын
Oo, I once made a bootloader pong game that has a very basic, follow the ball ai to play against. I was very proud of that thing ^^ I did it in x86 assembly and man not hitting the 512 mark was hard, it's realistically 510 due to the boot signature as well
@delboy13624 жыл бұрын
Loving the Red Dwarf reference!
@stoobpendous4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic. Great show idea.
@alloria4 жыл бұрын
I love the Red Dwarf reference!
@pearlt31674 жыл бұрын
FISH!!
@aenoire4 жыл бұрын
This is so so cool. Love this about the NES as well. Nothing like resourceful game design
@SwagusSE4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 1 Million Subscribes Its a big milestone keep going on!
@Sinn01003 жыл бұрын
I have never been to this channel but I like what I see. Very nice intro and informative content. You have yourself a new subscriber and an upvote!
@DavidWonn4 жыл бұрын
Since I was using NT4 when most weren’t, I knew about the messages coming from the boot sector of the floppies (e.g. missing NTLDR messages.) It just didn’t occur to me yet at the time how much it mattered which OS formatted the floppy, though. NT4's File Manager was very handy at copying certain diskettes perfectly when other methods failed.
@retrogamer334 жыл бұрын
I like the Red Dwarf's Cat reference in DOS Basic
@unfunnytv4 жыл бұрын
These are some of the very few videos I look forward to watching.
@burnster3214 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your vids for a good few years. I've only just noticed the red dwarf reference!! Love it
@frederikpfeiffer36234 жыл бұрын
WE NEED A 1 MILLION SUBS SPECIAL RIGHT NOW, David
@timfalardeau97534 жыл бұрын
"Dos, Windows, and Linux." The FreeBSD crowd NEVER gets any love!
@brent87834 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I'm part of the "Free BSD" movement, advocating for the talented people working on FreeBSD to devote that talent to working on something either substantially different and useful or on a more widely adopted base. FREE BSD! FREE BSD! :) Does that make me a troll?
@quaternarytetrad40394 жыл бұрын
What is Free BSD?
@timfalardeau97534 жыл бұрын
@@brent8783 TrueOS... I find it to be a perfectly usable alternative to Windows... The moment Steam is ported to FreeBSD I will never touch another MS product in my life!!! Apache Open Office, Steam, Kodi, etc... MS has lost...
@timfalardeau97534 жыл бұрын
@@quaternarytetrad4039 FreeBSD is what Linux is trying to be, only much better...
@circuit104 жыл бұрын
@@timfalardeau9753 Why do you like FreeBSD more than Linux? I don't know much about this but I thought of it as a slightly worse version of Linux used by some companies like Apple because of the license.
@danceswithdirt71974 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, as always. Cheers!
@meh80993 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this subject! Thanks for making this video.
@minecraftWithDanielD4 жыл бұрын
You thought I wouldn't notice that Red Dwarf reference? That scene is from Red Dwarf, Season 1, Episode 3: Balance of Power. I'm onto you........
@DanLoudShirts4 жыл бұрын
A chef? A white-hatted Ponce?
@minecraftWithDanielD4 жыл бұрын
"It outranks you smeg for brains"
@Natei4 жыл бұрын
Woah, all these years I actually didn't know the failed to boot message could differ.
@danieldaniels75714 жыл бұрын
Natei I never noticed it differing either. Always assumed that came from the BIOS
@markj69844 жыл бұрын
i love your videos. Brings me back to my childhood. :)
@Psychlist19724 жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@mkzhero4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, half the modern games have 30-70% of their code being just layers of resource consuming clutter ... *Cough cough* bethesda *cough*
@Adamjewell4 жыл бұрын
@coolkid I read that in Jerry Seinfeld's voice!
@straightpipediesel4 жыл бұрын
@coolkid The end user simply isn't willing to pay for miracles, particularly at the salary of modern programmers. The end user isn't willing to pay for anything in most cases; you're probably reading this on a free web browser with free ad-supported e-mail.
@__-yu8vi4 жыл бұрын
@@straightpipediesel no, the end user doesn't have a choice. Neither do most of programmers.
@jbed64 жыл бұрын
*cough* fortnite is 70gb per update on pc *cough*
@joroc4 жыл бұрын
How else you would need to buy a new computer because the one you bought last month can't run games no more?
@NithinJune4 жыл бұрын
2:52, No, i have never even seen a floppy disk in person
@Megacooltommydee4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on a million subs! Your channel definitely deserves that Gold Play Button.
@0raj03 жыл бұрын
I am truly amazed with the programming skills of whoever wrote these games. The smallest program I was ever able to write was a serial port file transfer program for MS-DOS that was 766 bytes in size. I can't imagine how they could fit all this in less than 512 bytes...