Replacing a failed triac (Motor Controller) in a Candy washing machine, Fixing Error E09

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4 жыл бұрын

How to replace the triac on the control board (PCB) of a Candy (Hoover) washing machine.
Model Candy GVS169D3/1-80 Grand O Vita 9kg
This fixed the error code E09 for me.
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@harveyjohnson2888
@harveyjohnson2888 3 жыл бұрын
Watched your video - fixed my machine ! Many thanks!
@deanarksey9077
@deanarksey9077 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I woke up last week to find my power had tripped. When I restored the power the washer flashed up with E09 and refused to run. I found your video and managed to replace the TRIAC (cost £2 plus delivery) and get the machine working again. It was the first time I'd soldered since schol so the video was very useful!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen Жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@sharps2white140
@sharps2white140 Жыл бұрын
Hi, where did you get it for £2? I can't find it cheaper than £6 on eBay.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen Жыл бұрын
It was a long time ago, inflation mate. Either that or the price has gone up!
@georgianmar
@georgianmar 3 жыл бұрын
You are a hero, i just fix my hoover washmachine.
@billytudor4507
@billytudor4507 3 жыл бұрын
You are a star, I repaired my Prima (Candy) machine. Just out of warranty. Replaced the triac, problem cured. Good job had two as I accidentally allowed the heat sink to touch earth..... BANG!!! Any would be repairers out there do not mess around with a loose circuit board, put it back together before trying it out. If I had touched the heat sink I would have been brown bread now. Mr BootsOwen I would love to help you out, buy you a drink, but I find the Patreon donation a little difficult to work my way around, but if ever you're in London I'll treat you to a few pints. Promise
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it worked, Patreon is a subscription thing. But Paypal is for a one off, very easy. Otherwise it'll have to be London!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Billy!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Billy, Thanks for the tip! very welcome!
@monkeytutz2
@monkeytutz2 2 жыл бұрын
Got to love candy appliances. I have a candy heat pump dryer and a candy washer, both about 2 years old. The dryer motor condenser failed 6 months ago, and I woke up this morning to an E09 fault. I’ve already had to change a drum paddle in the washer. Looks like the E09 fault was a glitch as it’s not missing a beat now. I think I’ll order a triac now, just in case it’s on its way out. Regarding removing the triac from the board I’d have reflowed the joints with leaded solder, as it has a lower melting point, then used solder wick to soak it up. I’d have used a bigger iron tip too. If you use your iron a lot on jobs I’d recommend buying a TS100 iron, as they’re great for jobs like this and have changeable tips depending on the delicacy of the job you’re doing. Thanks for a great video.
@whitefields5595
@whitefields5595 Жыл бұрын
Well done tackling this job. Heat sink compound is good, but not always used. You can see testing triacs elsewhere on YT .... but you got there in the end!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen Жыл бұрын
It must be agony to watch my videos. My issue with electronics is that I deal with them so infrequently that I don’t always remember.
@whitefields5595
@whitefields5595 Жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen It is good that you do this to encourage others to have a go. Triacs are cheap as chips and a common point of failure so worth a shot, which in your case paid off. I will be doing the same on my m/c which will not spin at high speed ... so I will change the high speed triac, and while I'm at it the other 2 as well.
@BrianLough
@BrianLough 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing, we have basically the same machine that started showing this error today, its worked since but great to know irs fixable! I know it's a really old video so your soldering might have changed since, but since you did ask at the end - id use a soldering iron with a larger head, the smaller headed ones can struggle to transfer enough heat for larger components like this - i think your idea to cut the legs is a good one, its much easier to desolder 3 individual legs than 3 connected ones! - and just to confirm your approach of adding more solder is good, the new solder has flux in it that helps it melt, and it will also help with the old stuff! You can buy flux separately and it is useful, but if your only soldering infrequently its probably not worth it. Thanks again!
@mrlaundry101
@mrlaundry101 4 жыл бұрын
If you wash anything in it, on certain cycles itll flash L1 L2 L3, if you press the little t shirt icon you'll br able to select one, L1 is light soil and L2 med L3 high
@TheLaundryKing023
@TheLaundryKing023 4 жыл бұрын
I can remember you telling us a while back on one your bosch videos a few years ago that you was looking for something like this!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 4 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting one that was more modern. But then found more old bosch machines for sale. I prefer the bosch ones, this one was designed to fail. Crazy for a £2 part!.
@theoddjobcentre6686
@theoddjobcentre6686 4 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen what a horrible machine hate candy's and hoovers
@artyerty35
@artyerty35 3 жыл бұрын
@@theoddjobcentre6686 You haven't tried beko I suppose
@vivalaquincebrigada
@vivalaquincebrigada 2 жыл бұрын
A desoldering iron (incorporating a vacuum) would make it much easier to remove the molton solder and thus the triac from the PCB. They are only about £12 - £14 with helpful reviews on KZfaq. I am about to replace a triac on the PCB of a John Lewis washing machine (with error code E51 "motor power triac short-circuited"). Thanks for posting your video - it's helpful.
@whitefields5595
@whitefields5595 Жыл бұрын
a cheaper option, for the infrequent user, is to use soldering wick. a close woven copper braid that wicks the solder up
@Genzzry
@Genzzry 9 ай бұрын
@@whitefields5595 Yes, this. Watching the "desoldering" here was painful. They need to get some solder wick and flux paste to make it flow easier -.- There are plenty of tutorials on how to solder properly and remove soldered components on KZfaq... I hope nobody uses this as an example.
@washertv977
@washertv977 4 жыл бұрын
Nice machine, I got Hoover version, what motor does it have? Ceset it sounds like?
@TheCodeCreator
@TheCodeCreator 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your video. I have a Hoover Washer/Dryer WDXOC 4106A-80. Washing is OK but when it is drying, it restarts itself . No errors shown, it beeps and it just starts the program from the beginning. I found that using a cooling fan pointing direct to that same triac BTA316 800, machine works fine, with no problems at all. So I have swapped the Triac and the machine had no problems washing or drying for about 3 days. After 3 days, the "reboots" started again. No errors on display. Any ideas? Thanks.
@washertech
@washertech 4 жыл бұрын
Will you keep this? And the hotpoint or do u plan to try and sell both?
@laszlolukacs128
@laszlolukacs128 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I have fail e21 by candy. What can i do? Thanks for your answer.
@syhyrn9354
@syhyrn9354 Жыл бұрын
The nfc function is mainly the way for the factory service engineers to use diagnostic software and reprogramme them via nfc on a mobile phone
@philipnelson7613
@philipnelson7613 2 жыл бұрын
Had a similar problem. The motor had blown so I replaced that. Also the Triac had gone open circuit.Tried 2 new complete control boards but they didn't fix the problem. Even though the boards were supposed to be for my machine. So after watching your video I replaced the triac on the original board and got it almost back to normal. I couldn't get a Triac to exactly match the original. Mine was BT316 800 B Pjd 1714 B4 0077 and I replaced it with BTA316 800B Pjd2031 E2 0022 It does a coloured wash now as it should. But doesnt stop spinning on the drain and spin cycle. So I have to manually stop it. I guess you have to get the exact match for the Triac to do the job correct.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure that it's the triac that would keep it spinning, It is the thing that tells the triac to stop that is not working , but good luck figuring out the finer details of these boards when they go wrong.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
And well done for getting it going again!
@benthebossjackson4388
@benthebossjackson4388 4 жыл бұрын
excellent buddy. well fixed. and a, nice machine there!! nice easy, cheap fix!! 😎😎😎👏👏👏👏
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have put it in the cellar with the Bosch ones. Maybe someone will need it.
@jasonhobbs7202
@jasonhobbs7202 3 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen happy new year ive just seen your candy triac fix , where can I buy this please
@ThomasRainsy2010
@ThomasRainsy2010 2 жыл бұрын
So cool
@mikigry9838
@mikigry9838 4 жыл бұрын
Get yourself some flux or a fluxpen. If help a lot when it comes to melting stubborn solder joints
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have some, but only the plumbing kind. I'll put it on the list. I usually only have a reason to solder every 6 months or so.
@mikigry9838
@mikigry9838 4 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen It might work. You can always do some tests on dead circuit boards. Make sure, to clean the spot after soldering is finished (plumbing flux is acidic according to google) Soldering rosin however is not acidic and works well in most cases
@kokotajebka
@kokotajebka 2 жыл бұрын
You can also protect the triac against voltage spikes from the motor
@kazzifella13
@kazzifella13 6 ай бұрын
Where did you get the part from ?
@chrisarn5451
@chrisarn5451 Жыл бұрын
Gj man
@chrishughes9101
@chrishughes9101 3 жыл бұрын
I have same problem, also got a bit of soot/thermal smoke around 3 cylinder to right of triac, any idea what soot stuff is? Great vid. Cheers.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
Probably carbon dust from the motor brushes. It sticks to static around certain parts on the board. Best to clean it off when you’re in there. I have seen a few machines where the current arcs across the carbon dust when it gets damp and frys the board. When replacing the triac put some heat transfer compound between it and the heat sink!
@nilsfrahm1323
@nilsfrahm1323 3 жыл бұрын
on main board, the cylinders with two metal legs are capacitors, sometimes they go bad and leak a liquid, called electrolyte, which hardens on the board. Top of bad capacitors may also swell, from the pressure inside. In this case, you need to buy and replace capacitors with same or bigger. They have 2 values: voltage in Volts, Capacity in Farads F, ans ESR, meaning low resistance in circuit. You can always go for bigger capacity and bigger voltage, but not less. If ESR written on capacitor, buy one with low ESR. They have a line drawn on them to indicate Negative terminal. Make sure to install in same orientation.
@pcangeldust
@pcangeldust 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work, I got a similar model that just stopped working no sound or light on the display. Bought a new control board and that seem to sort out the no power issue however big problem, when the selector switch is in the off position the machine is still on showing wool mode. The mode selected does not match was in the screen. You seem to know your way around these machines, how can I fix this?
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the knob and the board are misaligned, set it where the machine is off, then take the PCB off and adjust the knob to "off" then put it back together.
@pcangeldust
@pcangeldust 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen the control board and the knob switch are seperated by a wire. I turned machine off, disconnected the switch wire, moved the knob to the off position and then reconnected the wire. When I power on the machine from the mains, whilst the knob is still on OFF the machine lights up to wool mode. I tried tricking it, lets say it's on cotton mode, I disconnect the switch wire, move knob to cotton mode and then reconnect switch wire but as soon as I do that it just goes to another mode. Not sure how these switches work but it feels like whatever signal it gives out is being misinterpreted by the control board.
@kyorin6526
@kyorin6526 Жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen I wonder if you'd be able to advise on similar issue. On my machine (I think the same model as the one in the video), we have an issue with the program selector, where on several settings, it continuously beeps and flips between the adjacent program on the dial. Seem to be the programs on the lower half mostly. Any ideas?
@jamiewinnall2882
@jamiewinnall2882 6 ай бұрын
How did you manage to get the top of this washing machine as it seems to have bolts from the inside?
@jackiecarr3619
@jackiecarr3619 6 ай бұрын
Jamie no bolts inside just pull it back towards you it’s just stiff and will come out eventually
@rolo2057
@rolo2057 Жыл бұрын
Thanks the same problems.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen Жыл бұрын
You betcha
@M-M-Landscape-Brickwork
@M-M-Landscape-Brickwork 11 ай бұрын
Where can I get this part my machine has come up with error code e09 also!!!
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 11 ай бұрын
EBay
@thedifference3424
@thedifference3424 Жыл бұрын
My blue varistor its exploded do u know information about this varistor
@alexjones7983
@alexjones7983 4 жыл бұрын
Giving this repair a go myself just ordered the part, seems I have the same problem but a hoover machine
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Let me know how you get on.
@squeakmillward
@squeakmillward 3 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen I had the triac e09 error changed the triac no difference hot wired the motor it only went zing once then stopped long story short ordered a second hand motor for £30 and up and running again
@squeakmillward
@squeakmillward 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was shorted winding as it kicked off at full speed for maybe a second then stopped with error code maybe triggered by the tacho
@marcoborrelli6225
@marcoborrelli6225 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ,first of all thanks for your video . Two days ago the sleeve of a jumper got entangled in the external rubber seal of my washing machine and so now I get the error E09.Considering the dynamics of the problem, the engine certainly went under strain and stopped working. Following your advice I checked out the pcb board but apparently i don't have the triac component ( my model is a 10 years old Candy). Do you think I may be able to sort out the issue changing the entire pcb board? Many thanks
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
Does E09 mean failed triac or motor or possibly both? I think the PCBs are cheap on these machines so if the motor looks ok then it might be worth doing. You can check the motor by hotwiring it, I have posted many videos of how to do this. Let me know how you get on.
@marcoborrelli6225
@marcoborrelli6225 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen Hi. thanks for your reply. Searching online It says "If you see E09 error there is a fault with the motor triac on the circuit board of your washing machine" but as I said my PCB board is different from that one showed in your video and apparently there is not the triac component . I've been also told It may be the motor brushes.
@alinoltean4167
@alinoltean4167 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Can you tell me what is the symptom of a waschmaschine with a bad triac?
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
In this case it was an error code indicating that the triac had failed. This one had failed closed so that the power to the motor went uncontrollably to full and the machine instantly shut it down. The other failure could be that the motor won't turn at all, but in my experience it is more likely to be the brushes in the motor if the motor won't work.
@brianbatten3664
@brianbatten3664 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the triac I can't find one anywhere
@bootsowen
@bootsowen Жыл бұрын
Ebay
@brianbatten3664
@brianbatten3664 Жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen fair do's, I did see them on ebay but the numbers and letters at the bottom are different to mine. The top numbers are identical, wasn't sure if that would cause and issue
@nilsfrahm1323
@nilsfrahm1323 3 жыл бұрын
I think the factory doesn't make the boards, they buy from other supplier and just install them. The supplier may get very little per boars, thus skips thermal paste and uses low quality components. It's making me mad, critical component made carelessly, while other workers bust their asses to make the mechanical parts to spec. The ball bearings, brushed motor with high power, tub (may be stainless on some models) all require precision, welding, calibrating, lubricating. Having them tossed into garbage because a triac failed is crazy.
@adrianwaywell2750
@adrianwaywell2750 3 жыл бұрын
Does the number on the triac have to be exactly the same as the old on? Cheers
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
No, but if you read and compare the datasheets the new one should have the same necessary characteristics.
@ROMLEXTVLTD
@ROMLEXTVLTD 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what EO3 is as i have that problem now.
@ROMLEXTVLTD
@ROMLEXTVLTD 3 жыл бұрын
oh and I'm using Candy RapidO
@lambet11
@lambet11 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm Lahiru. My Candy Washer Drier (GVFW4106LWHC-S) is giving a issue as follows; Once machine is loaded (even without a load, the issues is same), door is closed & set any program and press start. I can hear the click sound from door but door symbol continues to flash and that's it. I tried opening the door but it is properly closed & only opens after two minutes I switch the machine off. Checked the door lock & it's working fine. But replaced it with a new one to make sure, but still issue is same. You have any idea that what could be the reason?
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno, try slapping the door, works on my hotpoint WMA32.
@lambet11
@lambet11 3 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen Thanks, I already tried this with no luck.
@luca._.3706
@luca._.3706 4 жыл бұрын
That mouse trap tho 👀
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 4 жыл бұрын
Gross right! but no mouse!
@cristianfondati1066
@cristianfondati1066 3 жыл бұрын
Hola mi plaqueta marca error 22 what is??
@iyadal-qaissy3108
@iyadal-qaissy3108 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue can you tell me we're I can get a new triac thx
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the internet?
@iyadal-qaissy3108
@iyadal-qaissy3108 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen yes , but couldn't find any
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
It's a bad day when the internet is out of stuff?
@mrzanussiguy1600
@mrzanussiguy1600 4 жыл бұрын
L1 = light soil L2 = medium soil L3 = heavy soil Don’t really see a difference except for the wash times
@ROMLEXTVLTD
@ROMLEXTVLTD 3 жыл бұрын
What is EO3 please as I am devastated. My machine is making that motor noise also and water is backed up in it
@c2automotive440
@c2automotive440 4 жыл бұрын
so whats happening to this machine then??
@Portugal_Algarve
@Portugal_Algarve 2 жыл бұрын
My washing machine candy display E07 and E09 😔
@mhsooty
@mhsooty 2 жыл бұрын
I've replaced a triac on my board and it managed two cycles and it's failed and shorting. Anyone know why? Ive got s spare triac but I don't want to waste this is there's another fault somewhere that I haven't seen Cheers
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
How is the motor/brushes looking?
@mhsooty
@mhsooty 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen I didn't replace them the first time as they were moving freely. Both were slightly chipped and showing signs they had been hot
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
It could be that a problem in the motor is getting back and kicking the board. The burning on your brushes and commutator ring agrees with that. Try a spare motor? Hard to know how far to go on a cheap machine. I have posted many videos of testing and fault finding Bosch washing machine motors. The theory will be the same. Lots of learning. See how the motor runs directly to power. Maybe it sparks. One of those sparks or a weird back EMF could have blown the triac.
@Wishing_you_peace
@Wishing_you_peace 2 жыл бұрын
How much should this repair cost?
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
To do yourself about 5£
@brahimwidadi979
@brahimwidadi979 2 жыл бұрын
إنا عندي نفس العطب
@ThomasRainsy2010
@ThomasRainsy2010 3 жыл бұрын
How did you do that
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 3 жыл бұрын
?
@jamalarzaeva610
@jamalarzaeva610 3 жыл бұрын
A+++ -40%
@phillipsmiley5930
@phillipsmiley5930 2 жыл бұрын
Get a temperature controlled Soldering iron, that rubbish goes cold whenever it touchs solder
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
All of the cheap ones I use are rubbish.
@phillipsmiley5930
@phillipsmiley5930 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen Weller TCP are good but the bits are expensive, Chinese factories use copies of Hakko 900 series irons, the bits are cheap. Also you dont have to search for BTA316-800 Triacs. more common BTA16-800 are the same, only difference is who makes them
@heavoc9793
@heavoc9793 2 жыл бұрын
Very bad pewter. Soldering iron in poor condition. Desoldering pump used incorrectly. No use of desoldering braid to remove as much tin residue as possible. Use of pliers to pull out the triac. Result OK but technique to review.
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
Are you having a bad day?
@heavoc9793
@heavoc9793 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen So you pretend to others a bad day to dodge any criticism you seem unable to accept ? 🙂 Very good days for me 😙
@bootsowen
@bootsowen 2 жыл бұрын
As good as your English? You have no channel, perhaps you are a bot?
@heavoc9793
@heavoc9793 2 жыл бұрын
@@bootsowen Yeah I'm not native english. So off-topic attacks to dodge... Still no arguments ?
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