Funny that, KPop never claimed BTS until they started gaining success and it was undeniable, despite the shade and hate thrown on them by many in that industry. BTS are the ones, who included themselves in that genre, but they also understood they had actually outgrown that KPop label, because they are actually global artists, who have impacted music in so many genres, for so many people and nations. Boracity, is at her best spitting facts as per usual lol 😂😂

jay park is super goofy. also, hobi’s response was so diplomatic and carefully worded. i love that man so much!

as soon as i saw the title i thought of jay park trying to insert himself into this category when his impact is nowhere near as close.

The part with other idols mocking Jay Park, bursted out laughing, thank you boracity magazine like always!

people need to realize that acknowledging BTS' success and impact does not diminish the success and efforts of their fave. like its ok to admit they paved the way doesn't mean that your fave's success is meaningless they did their best and you as a fan of their can acknowledge it, appreciate it and celebrate it instead of trying to force everyone to believe in your own narrative and downplaying BTS' influential success

"The inauthentic image of k-pop actually made things harder for BTS." Exactly! BTS made it to where they are BECAUSE they ARE authentic. It's one of their biggest points of appeal and the reason many people love them so much. (it's funny because in the opposite way the kpop industry profited the most from them.. it's crazy actually.)

Jay park literally put J-hope on the spot 💀what was his fans expecting J-hope to say other than a respectful answer. J-hope, along with other bts members, are respectful and nice people, so even if J-hope thought that J-park shouldn’t have inserted himself in the elite 4, he wouldn’t actually have said it. Now it would have been different if it was J-hope himself who went out of his own way to mention J-park’s “impact” or effort but no he didn’t, the only reason anything abt that conversation was mentioned was cuz J-park himself brought it up to him. J-park knew what he was doing, he looked so proud asking that question💀

I really admire RM's response to this question. He said he was 5% of BTS' success. While I think he has more impact than that...I admire his selflessness. That is Epic humility. Huge respect for that.

I'm an Army and a Faker fan but the disrespect Faker gets is crazy cuz he's still one of the only two people that won Worlds 3x (the other being his teammate Bengi) won MSI 2x, won LCK 10x (most of any Korean Player), 10 years since he started his Pro gaming career and he's still at the top of his game to this day and almost won it all again at last years Worlds but fell short, now he's recovering from an Arm Injury and I really hope he wins it all this time to further cement himself as one of the Elite 4 of Korea. Faker is one of the most popular and beloved gamer worldwide, even Kpop Idols and THEE BTS knows and respect him, Jay Park could only dream to reach a status that Faker has. EDIT: T1 HAS WON WORLDS 2023 AND FAKER HAS FURTHER CEMENTED HIS LEGACY AS THE BEST LEAGUE OF LEGENDS PLAYER IN THE WORLD BY HAVING HIS 4TH WORLDS CUP!!!!

It's always weird for me when people try to cage BTS into the kpop label. They clearly started with a hip hop sound and individually the rap line always kept it. People really tend to ignore that they have clearly outgrown kpop as a "genre" (like Agust D said in his first title track)

Artists like BTS, PSY, Epik High and Seo Taiji have no need to brag about their legend status because they're confident in their real achievements and their art. They have no need to compete with each other for who is better, they just work on their music and move on with their life with the impact they have, no matter how big or small. Jay Park just comes across as desperate, it's embarassing to watch. Honestly he'd have a better chance at the success he craves if he just focused on music and whatever else he does and just let the recognition come naturally. And at the end of the day, not everyone has to be some legendary superstar (in fact most people aren't, people with such a big impact like BTS are really rare) and that's also okay and not something to be ashamed of.

I think Jay Park tried adding himself into the elite 4 was to boost his ego. If he was secured with himself as an artist and recognize the impact of his work to his followers, he wouldn't of tried to add himself into the category. Its kinda like giving yourself a golden medal after a race when you only made it to 5th place.

I’m so tired of seeing people comment “I can’t wait for you to listen to ‘real k hip hop’” under videos of people reacting to a literal hip hop song from bts. It’s like….I’m an American black woman in her 30s who grew up on hip hop and last time I checked, BTS makes hip hop and consists of rappers. Are we pretending their work isn’t hip hop just because they’re in a now popular/legendary group? I’m just baffled. Nobody blatantly does that to western artists without sounding ridiculous wtf- Imagine someone in Korea listened to Brockhampton or Odd Future and somebody was like “oh, wait until you hear real American hip hop”. They’d be confused.

9:57 Joon is so funny, lol. Also, all the idols clowning jay park's song is hilarious. I died laughing.

Jay Park strikes me as that “pick me” person that most people don’t really like. The fact that he tries to insert himself where there’s no way he could be, screams jealousy and delusion to me. That whole interaction of him with Hobi gave me the vibe (not ft. Jimin of BTS iykyk 🤣) that he was doing his best trying to outshine Hobi and finally “prove” he was better than him. Cringe. He absolutely failed. And Hobi’s response is kind, humble but absolutely does not give the acknowledgment and approval JP is seeking. I hope JP goes to therapy one day before he falls to kanye levels of delusion.

I felt so bad for Jhope sitting there, forced to answer... :(

After I read the book, this barrier of hip-hop vs kpop being broken by BTS became more evident to me. They paving soooo much

that section of k celebrities saying three words that match and one that doesn’t to mock jay park was hilarious

I love you boracity The idols making fun of jay park part made my day 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I must say jp got lots of guts to call himself pride of Korea with all the things he has done throughout his career and how he blatantly said that Korea is gay and how he hated it 🤦🏼‍♀️

I knew it was finna be jay park 💀 but in all seriousness, you’re completely correct. The impact all these people have in their fields is incredible, and no one should try to take it from them.

Respect to the elite four: excellence and the pride of South Korea 🇰🇷💜🌍

"brought himself in the conversation" I snorted, queen! Thank you for always giving enlightening details. Always facts.

Interesting. Since Yoongi (aka Suga of BTS) using his Agust-D persona had a fabulous showing on year end Billboard charts - especially rap/hip-hop, one can say that BTS paved the way again. He also did it without disrespect to others in USA rap/hip-hop. He laid down his experiences - personal & Korean as a new dish on the table. He brought in new fans & got critical praise for his work. He smashed down doors for new listeners & others to have the same ability to succeed as him. Sadly, he took away Jay Park's self brag. By putting in the work & being true and authentic to himself. Once again proving why BTS is the elite in music for South Korea.

There is a difference between being confident vs being cocky and Jay Park is the latter…he really appears very insecure always talks about his”accomplishments” to other people

2:20 his dance i'm crying 😭 and in front of THE jung hoseok too, i would be so embarrassed😭

If you gotta say "what about me?" You've already lost, my guys.

Just one word . AUTHENTICITY. BTS have an extreme love for their craft and it shows the authetic side to them. Most performers just perform because of money. I am not saying that money is not important. However, if you want to be successful, Authenticity and also uniqueness. Not the cookie cutter type of performers. Plus, majority of performers who had been well snowed and respected had been authentic and have tremendous respect for their work.

HEUNING KAI'S VERSION OF THE MEME LMAOOOO "Hamburger, pizza, pasta, sagwa, let's go". I burst out laughing

Every time I watch BTS, especially the hyung line answer risky questions or things that could put them on the spot, I am in awe of their media savvy. Their media training was top-notch but more than that, they are always at full awareness of their surroundings and what is being asked and how to react.

I love your content. I love the way you so eloquently speak facts while quietly shading and putting people in their place. It's like you're calling out the industry and sometimes individuals, but sweetly. Lol. I'm so glad we have so many talented Army to stand up for BTS. Don't stop. He who shall not be named needs to sit down. Thanks!

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Please never stop your essays. You did it again. AWESOME. You are so right. When I saw JPark put JHOPE on the spot like that I cringed for him and Hobi’s respectful comment went way over his head. It’s bad trying to be a somebody. He ain’t there yet, only in his mind. You always bring receipts.

Jay Park just be saying anything like he needs to sit his ass down somewhere

I know that BTS themselves call themselves K-pop they accept it and wear it now with pride I felt that with Suga saying he loved kpop in his documentary Road to D-Day and with RM talking about how "it works" in the context of when everything they do is labeled as k-pop example rap songs on Spotify etc. But I won't deny that it still bothers me in a way because they are legendary artists at this point, they are bigger then that. People in the states, muggles, think bts equals kpop thinking it's all the same thing when if anything bts has gone against the grain when it comes to kpop . And kpop has denied them for so long not wanted to be associated with them but now all the sudden they are riding their coattails. It just doesn't sit right with me. Army knows they are more then that but I wish it was more widely accepted among muggles at this point cuz I'm tired of them thinking it's a package deal. My sister mentioned to family when asked point blank (she looked like she wanted to run and so did I cuz it's an uncomfortable conversation where we are from most the time) "who did you guys see in concert?" she answered "Agust D" and my older sister (muggle) mentions "wait didn't you say he is also Suga from BTS?" they were like "oh wait what? K-pop!?" And I'm thinking to myself if you were at an Agust D concert you would never think that's kpop because it's just not I'm sorry. I just find it a bit ironic that bts is the face of K-pop in the States when they are somewhat the antithesis of k-pop, they actually have creative control in their art. And that because of them now new groups popping up are starting to emulate them more because of their success when before others rejected their success.

I’m so glad someone mention Jay Park ridiculous self claim. I was dumbfounded when he label himself “ legend”. I don’t who he is before that. Thank you 💟💪🏼💜👍🏼

It's how so many people try so hard to downplay BTS's impact. Lmao, it's no longer sad. It's funny.

Bong Joon-ho has had such an impact on the film industry that he is mentioned incredibly often in my film studies class, his montages are excellently planned and executed so he is the person I looked up to most when I was writing part of my own screenplay.

Jay park needs to recognize that his international fame is also linked to fans of bts wanting to learn about Korean music. That's why most people start off listening to bts and then other groups or genres

7:39 They just ALL clowned dude! 🤣🤣🤣

2:20 THE WAY I WHEEZED THAT WAS FOUL😭😭☠️☠️☠️

The football (soccer) star Son Heung Min is everywhere, here in Zambia in Africa any avid soccer fan knows him.

When she first said that "someone denies this" I expected her to say someone relevant not Jay Park 😂😂

Hobi's obvious sweet response to Son heungmin and hoba's diplomatic response to jay garden. 😂

I can't believe Jay Park thinks he could replace Faker, as someone from a whole family of gamers, I can't believe you've just done this Jay wtf

when you mentioned jay park i started laughing so hard for no reason💀💀💀😭😭

He's trying to put himself in the top4 elite with bts, yet in a recent video when they asked him his favorite kpop groups he named other groups stating that no one had gone global like them. He's such a bitter fool

I need everyone to know how often TXT make fun of that song. When the world cup was happening there was a fan on weverse who said "taehyun, son heungmin is really so cool…i’m going to look at another man for just a moment" and Taehyun was like "I’ll allow it. I’ll allow it for bts, bong joonho and son heungmin"

JPk: removes Faker and adds himself to be in the elite 4 Koreans: w h o ?

it feels surreal how I chose to fall for the group that is going to be legend and will go down in the history of music for generations to talk about. I had no idea really, 8 years ago, I saw Dope dance practice and got drawn in, there's something so unique about their music and their personality. Soon, when you get to know how real, playful, artistic they are through all the MVs, messages, storylines, Bangtan bombs, BTS gayo, Run BTS, there's simply no way out.

I started giggling every time that clip of JP dancing came on LMAO

All the idols clowning Jay park is hilarious

I just remember a recent interview where Jay Park said BP are the most famous artis in the music industry from South Korea and that they are a big inpact ww, are different and blablabla. And i was like 🤨😒 yes they are big, but not bigger than BTS, and that group has all those things that Jay Park critics of kpop, but i don't know he has always liked groups from YG. I admire him for what he built like his company for other artis with better contracts but in the music world he is not that big. Also even if his mom is korean he was born rised and lived in the US so his mind set is nor like most korean, besides he is full of himself.

Jay park loves to insert him in all kinds of conversations since he is never really a part of one originally.

We have to support Boracity cause she has been spitting facts

Some of my earliest favorites were Big Mama (who became respected professors of music after they retired), Fly to the Sky (after they turned to R &B), Wheesung, Im Jae Bum, Kim Bum Soo, Lee Sora, Lee Sun Hee, and Lee Moonsae. They're good at what they do and don't need to toot their own horn. My dad taught me that truly intelligent people don't go around bragging about how smart they are. We can see that for ourselves. The same holds true for legend status. You don't run around saying "I am Legend." unless your parents actually named you Legend. Until very recently I was only vaguely aware of the existence of BTS and the fact that the fanbase is called ARMY. I'd assumed BTS was just another K-pop boyband. Yeah, that idea went out the window real quick once I started going down the rabbit hole. I am seriously impressed by what they've achieved and excited for their future. The overwhelming majority of K-pop strikes me as plastic-y, soulless, interchangeable, flavor-of-the-month ear candy. BTS is on another level. RM's lyrics are "meaty" making me want to suss out the references, the concept of SUGA's world tour is complex (Cf. the article in Weverse Magazine, magazine.weverse.io/article/view?ref=main&lang=en&num=819), and Suchwita is a great series, Hobi established a first at Lollapalooza. Jimin's solo album is so much fun to listen to. Beyond the Story shot up to bestseller status within hours. Let's see what the rest of the year brings.

Boracity, I had no clue about the Elite 4 list. I also didn’t know I needed this video, but I really enjoyed it. Thank you for sharing this story and showing that BTS is accepted by Western Hip Hop artist because they are organic in their Love for Hip Hop. It’s not fake nor pretentious. I would encourage all to read Beyond the Story for more insight on this authenticity.

That's so crazy to me because I only really got into K-pop & later BTS starting in 2018/19 while I've known Faker since 2014 because he's literally one of, if not THE most famous esports player in the world. If someone would've asked me to name one Korean person in 2014-2018 the only name I would've known would be Faker, so it's crazy to me that jay park tries to discredit him. But yeah, I mean we already have more than enough reasons to not support him anymore & I don't understand how anyone can like him💀

I think, no matter what, BTS's place in that "Elite 4" is solid. He wasn't coming after their slot, but it sounds to me like JP felt like he had to make them smaller somehow (HA!) to make room for himself.🙄His silly distinction of "k-pop" vs "k-hip-hop" is nonsense, because, honestly, has he never heard their discography? The idea that Hobi gave his blessing is equally ridiculous... Hobi was his usual extremely diplomatic self in his answer, and acknowledged JP's hard work and his callout of BTS without saying a word about whether JP's name belonged in that list, too. IMHO the person who most deserves to be PO'ed at JP's nonsense is Faker, because what JP's essentially saying is, "you and your entire industry aren't as important as I am." To which I'd say to him, "Players gon' play. Live a life, man. Good luck."

when you first mentioned jay park I burst out laughing so hard omg

"Hamburger, pizza, pasta, apple, let's go" got me hard.

The fact that I have no idea who the fuck Jay Park is proof enough that he ain't shit, and won't even come close to Faker. There is a reason why BTS had a RUN BTS with T1 (Faker's team). I was watching the episode and thinking "damn the pride of South Korea in the same room". My dream is to attend a BTS concert in Korea, and watch a live game of Faker in the LCK. I knew who Faker was befoire even playing league of legends. He is the GOAT of the game, and the biggest player, anbd who made the game what it is today. He is one of elite 4, and no one can change that

I didn’t know it became a meme to mock that dumb line of his, I’m glad he got mocked to his face lol

7:31 the idols mocking his lyrics oml I can’t 💀😭

BTS are LEGENDARY, why? cause they don't go around dissing other ppl like jp. They learnt from their mistakes, kept silent about their impact cause their achievements speaks for itself. They know they are Impactful and continue doing that rather than asking others a million times "Am I influential?" They check, ask, evaluate their progress in solitude, and then the world sees their effect. And because they never wanted to take someone's place and claim it as their own, They MADE THEMSLEVES LEGENDARY! It's a proven fact that artists like BTS are seldom to come.

why is that man trying to insert himself lol

THE MOST INFLUENTIAL HIPHOP ARTIST IN SOUTH KOREA ARE BTS. SAY THAT AGAIN.

I love it when you said "what impact??" It's so funny 🤣

I almost spit out my food when he was brought up lmaooooooo

Since 2017 Namjoon collaborating with Wale alone has more impact than anything that Jaypark or any other khiphop artist

The only rapper i know is the rap line of BTS 😁

Why doesn't this channel have more subscribers? It is amazing

2:20 YOU DID HIM SO DIRTY 💀💀💀 that got me cryinggggg

J-hope did not recognize any impact, he’s so smart for that

Loved how those people were mocking Jaypark, even Jessi is bigger than Jaypark in khiphop, he’s barely know anywhere tf

BTS has paved the way for everyone in the industry big time and its a fact

14:41 “…because what impact” legit snorted at this part because truth 😂 another great video!

jay park is an insecure little man LOL

Thank you for overanalyzing this because I have just not understood this controversy before your indepth video. Your background was necessary to tie the threads together for me. Thank you! Great work!

Ah yes, Jay Parks favorite hobby: Embarassing himself publicly because his ego is just so much bigger than his actual talent.

BTS is never the same as any normal group who always follow the same structure as k-pop was. How can these guys being called "yeah they are kpop, nothing more than that" when they are actually have hundreds of songs with a vast variety of genre that even a normal pop artist will never really done that? If you are looking back to the history of the biggest boy band in the world, you will never see them rap, you will never see them dance as hard of these boys and the message of these "normal boy bands" are constantly repetitive😌. I have a huge respect for BTS because they are always trying their best to show us the true & honest side of them. Unfortunately, this is really uncommon in SK then people will think that they are weird for just being themselves😔

oh my god the audacity of jay park to ask hobi that on LIVE TELEVISION

ALL THE IDOLS MAKING FUN OF JAY PARK LMFAOOOO

"Any man who must say, I am the king, is no true king." - Tywin Lannister

Bora, I can't with you😂😂😂. My God, I don't even want to imagine how annoyed his fans will be after seeing this video. I saw another video of a lady talking about this same thing and how he is not the most successful k rapper, and his fans did not want to agree.

You should be a lawyer. You argue your points down the the smallest detail. With facts. And receipts. And I love it!

5:44 Lmao contrasting Jay Park with Agust D is unfair 😂 Yoongi’s side project just fucking crushed him like an ant

Thanks Bora! JPk is ridiculious! Yes, he's popular in South Korea and has worked hard, but no way he's global superstar much less the leader of KHH!

One thing I love above all is how you get names right, you pronounced Wale so perfectly as a Nigerian, I'm impressed

i had to pause because the video u used at 2:20 was sooooo funny ohmyghpdkfsjf i keep remembering hobi's face i cant brewathe AND THE BACKGROUND MUSIC FVNSDKJDkJAJAJA

The people mocking that rhyme, plus that end. I screamed. LOL

I am always impressed by Boracity's clear and thorough examination of issues. Such a talent for organising arguments and proving a point is very rare.

Wait why am I just finding out Dynamite created 8k jobs in South Korea, people should just not deny their impact omg

and even to these days SK have no idea about how HUGE BTS is and why? because their media payed by the Big 3 have dedicated to all these years to elevate their own groups and have their groups on media, everywhere. For that I'm so happy that finally BTS company talk about their success , with his story in their book, hopely in their next documentary too. Is good to be humble like they are but sometimes, when everyone are minimizing your unprecedent success, and impact is time to talk about your success everywhere to clear the FACTS.

2:19 You ain't have to do him like that! 🤣🤣🤣

"legends don't say that they are legends" made me laugh so hard! Thank you for another great video!

The amount of times I busted out laughing...that guy is desperate for attention, it's so cringe. The part towards the end summed it up perfectly, legends don't to tell u they're legends😏

I certainly don't mind people who have confidence in themselves and their abilities. But this is not confidence, it's very arrogant and arrogance does not equal confidence. The reason the ELITE four are elite is because of their hard work, dedication and really the impact they are making globally, not just in Korea. I find it disheartening to see almost on a daily basis, BTS' accomplishments, success and hard work always trying to be minimized or leveled. BTS on the other hand, they always acknowledged those who came before them, they were appreciative, they showed it, they never tried to take jabs at others or shortcuts, they worked hard, worked hard and worked hard and that's why they have the dedicated fans that they do have! some people....some groups...are a legend in their own mind....nobody else's though....lol.

what you said about BTS lyric is so true. it is the main difference i have never seen artist with so much influence to change the world like BTS. MJ and Coldplay is the only two i can think of witch made the Coldplay collab so perfect

I feel sorry for this guy. He is trying to lift himself, even being so self-praising, but he is still not succeeding. Let's just let him be. If this makes him happy. We are Armys. We know the truth, and we forever support BTS.