Treating ASPD with MBT (Mentalization-Based Treatment)

Treating ASPD with MBT (Mentalization-Based Treatment) | ANTHONY BATEMAN

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11 ай бұрын

Dr. Anthony Bateman explains the adaptations of an antisocial personality and how he attempts to treat antisocial patients using Mentalization-Based Treatment in a group setting.
Anthony Bateman is one of the creators of Mentalization-Based Treatment (MBT) for personality disorders (BPD, NPD, etc).
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@annenicholsonmbtp 11 ай бұрын

I’m in the MBT practitioner certification developed by Bateman. This method has given me the confidence to work with antisocials as well as borderlines. 😊

@A-sh1eh 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for trying, please dont give up but please respect your boundaries.

@myrusEW 3 ай бұрын

Can you help me? I’m struggling with every facet of my life as I get older because i become more and more antisocial. I have never cared for others, and my boss and coworkers have been calling me out. They say it’s easy to change. They say i’m angry, i’m a bully, i don’t care, etc. i have ZERO clue how to change. my gf left me one day with a note and i didn’t care beyond being mad about the change of routine. they don’t believe that’s possible. I can maintain the facade for a short period of time, but to genuinely care or change feels impossible. how can i stop being “mad” if i don’t even feel mad? how can i care if i don’t care?

@annenicholsonmbtp 2 ай бұрын

@@myrusEW what I have learned from Dr. Bateman is that persons with antisocial personality disorder are primarily struggling with self-esteem. Everything else comes out of that. Perhaps rather than trying to work on your behavior. if you work on your self-esteem, you may find that.even if you don’t care about others you will get along better.

@lukecarey613 18 күн бұрын

That’s amazing.

@dkmagos 11 ай бұрын

What does a person need to admit they've been wrong? To let go of an impenetrable defense system? On one hand they need to be in touch with the pain it causes, but also, in the presence of acceptance, compassion, love, non-judgment - which a defended mind can't imagine other's having. It's a risk. But the prize may be being fully human, the pearl of great price.

@slofty 11 ай бұрын

Define “fully human.”

@dkmagos 11 ай бұрын

@@slofty I think the best answer to that question is to put it back to you - what does that mean to you?

@alexbalistreya 11 ай бұрын

Rebbie is very lucid and in tune with these conversations. I appreciate her additions and articulations, very insightful and helpful! In some very poignant way she engages in a truly collaborative way with Dr. Bateman, which to me exemplifies a goal of recovery from these various pathologies she presents upon. It truly is an honest and encompassed presentation of potentials toward recovery and the awareness involved in this process toward greater awareness around personality disorders.

@dkmagos 11 ай бұрын

agreed!

@le_th_ 11 ай бұрын

I've found her to be a present and effective listener throughout the videos she has produced. She has helpful insights. I've found her series on personality psychopathology/adaptations to be very informative and worthwhile.

@elba363 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, I’ve been hesitant to work with this population but after this interview/information, I might just attempt it🙏

@herbieshine1312 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this upload. I have a dreadful feeling my ex may have "conned" me of the person she was. I completely recognise my own part of being "conned" it was the first relationship I was in, even though I'm in my 50's, I have been very lonely most of my life so thinking someone liked me/ loved me was a totally new experience for me. it didn't sit happily with me and I was desperate to have an end to loneliness thinking we could be together. I realise because of my history of loneliness and depression it was possibly more difficult for me to see things weren't right between us until things got really difficult while my dad was dying and my mum's dementia got worse. I wish I could find a therapist to talk all this over with but the NHS is inundated with people needing help and I've had lots of help in the past. I'm struggling now to think I'd be able to trust a therapist again. It's all so messed up. Your videos really help me question myself and try to understand my problems better and to try to see things from others point of view. Again thank you

@BorderlinerNotes 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this. Wishing you the best during difficult times. -P

@herbieshine1312 11 ай бұрын

@@BorderlinerNotes thank you very much

@hurricane_valence 8 күн бұрын

This is so true. I am diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder.

@AJ-tx6vf 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for all the work everyone does on these. I hope ASPD can have as much scrutiny as BPD because it may, like other PD, be severely under diagnosed and the best conners are at the top just fluffed up and getting away because of money.

@nasreenbari2765 5 ай бұрын

especially for the female population

@A-sh1eh 5 ай бұрын

@@nasreenbari2765 yup, research goes into avoiding those "small" (half of population) cases, just like historical research of safety of seatbelts avoided pregnancy. Gets too complicated but it is very "easy" to become selfish and knock people up, pardon my french. Even for "engineers".

@nasreenbari2765 5 ай бұрын

@@A-sh1eh absolutely in agreement with you

@therabbithat 4 ай бұрын

He's SO good at demonstrating the non-mentalizing bevahior that I get a little bit scared despite myself

@rabinraj15 10 ай бұрын

Amazing! He is so synced that even the siren that passed by blended in harmony 🙌🏽 💪🏽 Hipnotising! 👌🏽👍🏽 Thank you Sir! 🫡 Much love & respect 🙏🏽 ❤ ~ Borneo, Malaysia

@IndigoMasquerade 3 ай бұрын

So I completely respect Dr. Anthony Bateman's perspectives...but I can't stop hearing Scar's voice from The Lion King 😅

@BorderlinerNotes 3 ай бұрын

Lol, I had to doublecheck that one and I hear it too! -P

@schiros123 10 ай бұрын

Where can someone find this kind of treatment?? My experience with most therapists is a vast lack of experience in unraveling complicated mental conditions.

@xIVIartian 2 ай бұрын

The statement in regards to ones "I mode" and the complete emotional uninhibition is accurate and is a perfect description of Factor 2 Psychopathy. He's definitely describing both factor 1 and factor 2 Psychopathy in different parts of this interview, with factor 1 being narcissistic rejection sensitivity and feeling emotionally invalidated and factor 2 being Borderline Identity distortion, instead of the diffusion which is seen in some types of pure Borderline personality disorder. I want to add that in regards to people "Taking it from each other", what this actually means is people who can see past the distortion and see 'us' for who we actually are. Usually its me having to look out for those in my life, but one time the opposite happened, and they did it because despite the exterior I have, they saw that i have never actually been protected myself, when i needed it, and when i needed it most. It was a experience I'll never forget, she was completely crazy (far more hot headed than me), but very special to me, so no, its not a myth, many people (including me) have the ability to completely see through a persons pathology and personality structure, and your subjective experience. Its nice when it happens to you and someone does it for good intentions actually :), but you also have to be wary, because many people who can are also very dangerous, i speak from experience with family members. Cluster B pathology and Psychopathy in particular, is bloodline deep. Edit: I absolutely hate typing on a mobile. Lol...

@GBLSGBLS-pl2zr Ай бұрын

I live with anti social personality disorder. I commend you for trying to help people like me. I have found, (many things ) about myself. If I had not I would be in prison or dead. One of the big things is keeping the disorder singular, and not let other mental illness get a foothold(bipolar depression, sociopathic persona etc. When this happens the person become volatile. This why serial killers have this and other disorders

@accordionSWE 6 ай бұрын

As a layman I encounter the word valence from time to time. What I understand is that valence is the emotion that determine emotional affect. But I have also read that arousal is more strong than valence. Valence is more graded and ambigious but arousal is stronger. People suffering from BPD are more prone to express their affect through arousal than valence? Anyone here can clarify this?

@karlmcdowell431 8 ай бұрын

Need help with cluster b personality and type one bipolar main mood mania instense borderline emotions dont even know if i know anything else than uncomfortable happy or intense rage need to do therapy asap got money

@PaddyMcCarthy2.1 11 ай бұрын

I think I'll wait until the studies of MBT with ASPD against control groups comes out before making a judgement. As far as I am aware, no treatment has worked so far in relation to ASPD. In fact, all counselling has only made people with ASPD better at deceiving the counselors.Having said that, Dr. Anthony bateman , who is a colleague of Dr. Peter Fonagy, are doing good work, most recently, one of their theories has been shown to be true, namely reflexive function and mirror neurons confirming this. So, best of luck to them.

@soundsgood12 11 ай бұрын

But does he know what the I is? What is the I. Listen to J kristnamurti.

@enatp6448 4 ай бұрын

Some of the narratives about antisocial, borderline, and narcissistic personality is quite damaging and certainly not helpful to the individual or society. This is particularly so of one prominent clinical psychologist who has created a type of modern mythology of the boogeyman that only a few, such as herself, are brave enough and intelligent enough to understand. I guess it sells books, gets sponsors, and just makes for a more interesting story.

@chris20908 11 ай бұрын

Can I make a suggestion? Keep camera only on person being interviewed otherwise it’s distracting for viewers. What is an “antisocial valence”?

@perpetuaL524 11 ай бұрын

im sure she used that as a mask, a true antisocial core but a vail of social ability.

@slofty 11 ай бұрын

A search yielded the following result in 2 to 3 seconds: “Valence, or hedonic tone, is the affects' property specifying the intrinsic attractiveness/"good[ness]" (positive valence) or averseness/"bad[ness]" (negative valence) of an object, event, or situation. The term also categorises emotions.”

@seymourtompkins 11 ай бұрын

Dr Bateman, if you are referring to ANPD (and not just antisocial behavior), I strongly disagree with the statement that it is simply an adaptation to the patient's environment (I believe your word was "context"). Sometimes it is merely a cultural adaptation, other times it is structural.

@jaynebailey 11 ай бұрын

I am a intervert and it is hard to understand what your point is

@APMTenants 9 ай бұрын

Antisocial as in psychopathic, not someone who doesn’t like to socialize. Confusing term

@a.m.6847 11 ай бұрын

Prison is the BEST treatment for antisocial personality disorder

@patrickthestar132 10 ай бұрын

Wow… you know that we are not all criminals?

@robotempire 10 ай бұрын

@@patrickthestar132you just made a leap. It can be the best treatment, that has nothing to do with whether they think antisocial people should be in jail. Two completely unrelated concepts.

@corruptedbloom2389 7 ай бұрын

let's go ahead and throw you in there then

@zayan6284 5 ай бұрын

Not really. Many people say prison just made them better criminals since they’re locked up with others in the same trades who have nothing to do but talk for years

@oreokid77 2 ай бұрын

That lack of empathy makes u look exactly like those who u judge. Self awareness is obviously necessary sir.