As British Black guy I have become super sensitive at the American media's double standards when representing interracial couples. It seems to be treated as mainstream and normal when it is a white male character with a black female character, but when it is a black male character with a white female character it is treated as taboo and racial politics are more involved, despite the fact in the USA white women with Black men is more common than the other way around statistically. What made me sensitive was watching the Louis Gate Jr documentary Black Hollywood in 2008. In this doc Gates ask the big Hollywood producer Arnaud Miclan, who is big producer in Hollywood to this day, why has every attractive Black female actress had a white male love interest, but you never see an A-List American white actress with a black male love interest. He let slip the truth. He said when it is a white man with a black woman it is exotic, but when it is a white woman with a black man it is dangerous. He is basically saying it is personal preference of white male producers and they don't want to promote black men to white women. This guy was never cancelled and still making big movies today like Deep Water, Gone Girl and 12 years a slave. So when I found out two of my favourite British shows were being remade for American audiences and they were the shows Utopia and Ghosts. On both these shows the main character is black, but on both shows, there are white female love interests for these characters. In Utopia there are two white female characters vying for the black male character and it is vital to plot that this character is black and in Ghosts it is a about a normal married interracial couple who buy a hotel that is full of ghosts of the guests who died there throughout the century. These remakes were really going to test the Hollywood double standard and boy did Hollywood prove they have this anti-black man agenda. For Utopia US version they just whitewashed the show and made the black main character a white man in the American version and race bent the white female love rivals to black women in the US version. SMH. And in Ghosts remade by CBS, they race bent the black husband character to an Indian, probably because Big Bang Theory their biggest hit had an Indian. And I just thought wow, Hollywood is still anti- black male in 2022. They did the same for one of my all time favourite sitcoms the sci-fi sitcom Red Dwarf. It was the most watched sitcom in the UK in the mid 1980s and the lead character and hero was a dreadlocked Black man in a live action sci-fi sitcom that was lightyears ahead of it's time, that shows like Futurama and Rick & Morty ripped off many decades later. Well NBC in the late 1990s wanted to do an American remake of this hugely popular show about an unlikely black hero on a giant spaceship in deep space, all the crew has been killed and he is only human survivor as he was frozen during the accident for millions of years. And the only things keeping him company is descendant of his cat who has gone through a million years of evolution and is now humanoid and is a cross between Little Richard and James Brown, there is also an overly polite android who is programmed to be honest all the time but not to hurt the feelings of humans and the Hologram representation of his annoying dead ship room mate. The makers of the British show deliberately wanted two of the main characters to be black because the Humanoid cat was Black and the dumbest character in the show, the Phoebe or Kramer on the show and didn't want the only black character on the show to be dumbest so wanted another black actor as the lead to have contrast of representation. In America they did not care about the only black character being dumb, so recast the black dreadlocked character with Craig Bierko the tall blue-eyed white actor in the US version because again the show had a white female love interest for a black lead character in the UK version.

I watched that, then this popped up as recommended. Beautiful use of algorithm utilization. Team up more with other creators again! Everyone expressing their perspective on something and quickly, maybe efficiently showing their viewers a complex view of something via the team up. The audiences benefit. The creators benefit.

Also, I related hard to Shawn on the show and almost resented Corey and Topanga. As a child so young I felt envy for those with such love or support or even just fucking money. It's creepy to reflect on as an adult who still struggles with such envy and subsequent resentment.

I love the episode where Sean finds Angela’s purse and falls in love with that woman he didn’t even know. 😭😭😭

Watched that first. Love the cross promotion

Yeah same for me I really loved the character of Angela

As a black man it makes me mad how black goddesses fall for skinny white guys bleh

I third! I still look back in joy of her scenes and relationship with the other characters of the show.😍❤

It may have looked nice as a fictional TV show, but the real actress endured racism on set by some of the other white cast members so…

Yeah but now she bleached herself beige. So obviously the actress had complexes about her complexion and ethnicity. One black girl is not true diversity.

Exactly 😂😂😂

Unfortunately, all too often writers trope tragic relationships for black women. List the names of television shows where the black woman's love life is NOT tragic, where she is the forever desired love interest end game together on the show. For some reason writers tend to make the love interest of black women the Monster, the Criminal, the One Who Dies, the Drug Attic, the Forbidden Guy She Must Break Up With ... you get my drift or she is all self sacrificing for the good of everyone else. It's annoying.

@@RumChocolates if there isn't some sort of tragic love story there is not a hell of a lot of story.

Period! I do not accept an other endings.

real!

Shawn was the only one I liked, so I was glad to hear that. I used to think he was so cute.

@@LadyAstarionAncunin It makes me feel good about my childhood crush on him. A lot of those crushes turned out to be not so great people.

That actually made me laugh

@@mdtisthebest6249 whats the joke?

Did you not watch “The Jeffersons”?

I think because later on in the reboot she was treated like that. They made her the villain also.

Maybe they’re referring to how the character was treated by the writers, not by characters within the story

Many people do not like to see black girls with white guys.

@@bethanychatman9531 I'm going to act like that reboot never happened.

@@bethanychatman9531 Shawn was still in love with Angela in the reboot. It’s Cory and topanga who was basically like fuck her and get with the spoiled brat mother. He even asked Angela if he should be with her. I think he felt obligated to be with the spoiled brat mother. She was so hard up for a dad. It made me sick. I wish boys meet world would make a movie where Shawn and Angela come back together. Shawn and Angela were my favorite couple on the show.

I also appreciated the fact that in the show, her being black was never mentioned in the show. It's like the writers wanted to create an undertone of it doesn't matter, who cares? Look at her as just another character like the rest of the cast. That's how it should be. Black folk always wanna self segregate nowadays which is completely counter productive.

And they wrote her tas a philosophical and artistic type, then gave her the longing for connection from the soul vibe. It was the best developed character. I personally was a Johnathon turner Frankie stacking fan. But they didn't even get any development in the reprisal series. Mentioned by Harley one or two times, then ghosted.

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@@spencersharp4599 love this comment!!

@@knucklehoagies that's cause in the 90s people were taught to be color blind. Now they're being taught to be racist again, and focus on race before anything else

Definitely agree, but I'm guessing that, in-universe it wouldn't have worked because it was supposed to be a time of healing for Angela to _finally_ spend time with her father. If Shawn had gone with them, he might've been a distraction. Plus, it's not like he would be able to afford a place to live on his own, so he'd have to live with Angela and her father, and the father didn't seem like the kind of person to let his daughter's boyfriend live with them. But even if he were, Shawn would still be intruding on them as they attempt to put their relationship back together. That's a lot to deal with for a young person. What if they ended up breaking up during that year? The only options would be to let Shawn live on the couch for the remainder of that time until they go back to the states and deal with _that_ awkwardness, or for Angela's dad to pay for a return ticket back to the states for Shawn. The happy resolution would have been to allow Shawn to tag along, and he and Angela growing closer and eventually getting married, achieving that Corey and Topanga "Happily Ever After". But the realistic one they chose, that the show-writers were interested in doing, was the one we got. Shawn understood how important it was for Angela to go to Europe with her father so they could get a second chance at _their_ relationship, and knew that it might spell the end of their own relationship but he was willing to make that sacrifice for her happiness. Even that shows a real sign of growth and maturity for Shawn, because part of being in a relationship is being willing to sacrifice some personal happiness for your partner. Obviously, the ideal would be for both people willing to make equal sacrifices for each other-- like supporting their partner's decision to go back to school to get a degree, or being willing to uproot your life because your partner received a big promotion that requires moving to a different state. Or the flip side of that, what Angela's parents had before her mother abandoned them - which was being willing to move to a different state or country every six months to a year for your partner's career. And unfortunately, sometimes that sacrifice requires letting go of that person you love and care about, because you know deep down that they deserve to be happy in a way that you can't fulfill for them, or that they should be with someone more willing to make certain sacrifices for them that you are not.

@@cannibalisticrequiem they still should of ended up together after that. They’re both adults and even though she was with her parents. They should of somehow founded love even if they went with other partners.

he gave her the time with her father that he never got to have with his

@@weston407 Yeah, but she still could have still had that with Shawn there. It's not like she would only be around her dad 24/7. It's most likely she made new friends, dated around a bit, and potentially met her husband while there. Shawn could have given her space when she wanted to be around her dad and explored Europe and expanded his horizon and get more out of being there.

@@luxbeauty4952yeah a lot of years had passed

TOTALLY agree- and that Shawn didn't call Cory or Riley on their rudeness to someone who not only was someone he'd loved but was a FRIEND OF THE FAMILY! BOO!! Oh, and despite the Matthewses' unwarranted hostility towards her for daring to step foot in the cafe to ask for Shawn, she was never less that perfectly polite to everyone within -unlike vice versa!

Yes!! Like it was weird!! She was a main character. They should have done more. Topanga and her were best friends but I guess best friends do move on. Just not even a scene or something. Odd.

Girl Meets World sucks because not only did they treat Angela like dirt but they also treated the possibility of Farkle being autistic like he was contagious or something.

there were rumors back when the show ended that Danielle Fishel who played Topanga was jealous of Trina McGee (who played Angela) and Will Friedle (who played Eric) was also known to be mean & unprofessional towards her I think he called Trina a sociopath after she made claims on how she was treated & excluded from the final episode of the show.

@@xdc202 they are all playing nice now. No bad blood so they say. Just the mention of the racist comment that Will made in the 90s. It makes me sad. She is so beautiful and totally should have been with Shawn and made cute babies. They ruined girl with not doing that

@@flowerchild2627 Stop. Just stop.

Oh FD is here? Let me go ahead and subscribe 🥲😂

@@flowerchild2627 YIKES!

It really did a good job of tackling mature themes.

@@flowerchild2627 I get it but you should have kept that to yourself fam

I always noticed that in the few times they showed outtakes during credits, whenever she was in them and broke character she always looked miserable, just really unhappy while everyone else was laughing and joking around

*I was OBSESSED with Danielle Fishel (Topanga) for sooooo many years. It broke my heart when Trina (Angela) said how nasty and micro-aggressive Danielle really was towards her behind the scenes.*

Yeah I was shocked and saddened to learn this

Yeah it’s nice that the actor she worked closest with, Shawn, was one who she said was nice to her but that’s a silver lining to a very grey cloud. Can’t imagine

This explains why her hair was different nearly every episode, sis was doing it HERSELF?!

That’s a thing? Omg where is the convention at? Sounds so fun

@@BlackGirlLovesAnime6 i went to it too. It was in Hartford CT. They had a lot of Disney and 90s Nick stars there. Even a Slim machine and orange couch.

@@DrVVVinK oh wow I’ve never even heard of this. I wonder if they still have it.

They were my favorite as well!

@@DrVVVinKwas it fun

well i think the show wanted to argue that Shawn really loved Katie lol but I agree they didn't really have a lot of time to develop the relationship. But the general concept of Shawn being able to find love because of what he learned from his time with Angela is a good story imo

@@T1J But sadly that isn't the story they told. If they really wanted to go a realistic route like they claimed since most high school couples don't end up together then they could have at least respected the relationship by mentioning it but not bringing her back and minimizing it OR having them re-meet later in life divorced or with kids and getting together then and forming a blended family

@@T1J I think the issue a lot of us have was HOW the treated their relationship on GMW. Instead of portraying his relationship with Angela as something genuine but just not meant to be, they make where he never really loved Angela but just "thought" he did, and then made Angela the scapegoat for all of his commitment issues which those who watched BMW know is not true.

And for all the hype about Shawn suddenly getting smitten with Katy (and his former bond with Angela getting retrotrashed), and the resulting marriage & him becoming Maya's new father, wound up being a waste because they did NOTHING with that after the wedding! I know that Mr. Strong only agreed to do a tiny number of shows (could it be because he HATED how they retrotrashed his longtime bond with Angela- and Shawn's entire progress as a person?) and he'd not appear again until the Season Three/Series Finale. However, the writers COULD have had Maya, Katy, Riley, Cory, Topanga,etc. make asides about how Shawn was doing as a new husband and father and how the three were adjusting to each other but they literally only mentioned him very briefly TWO times before he made his final appearance in that Finale with him celebrating adopting Maya. Even his adoption of Maya was lame because the very first thing she did was TELL him and Katy that she was going to live in London with Riley and the Matthewses and neither of her parents put up the slightest objections (e.g. 'No, you will VISIT them whenever school, our finances and the Matthewses' hospitality permits AND with OUR permission especially since you're too young to get a passport on your own and you have no job + no money for airfare ). Of course, at the end, Topanga decided to stay in NYC and Maya just wound up getting summoned by Riley to her room one last time where Riley declared for only the zillionth time that they'd always be friends and THAT is how they ended Season Three and the Series!

Idc what they say. Shawn didn’t love Katie. He loved her daughter. The spoiled brat acted like Shawn had to be with her mother. She was so hard up and desperate to have a dad. Shawn could have been a father figure without marrying Katie. Katie and Shawn had no chemistry. Angela is Shawn soulmate. They should have been endgame.

Like when bm date Ww? Self hate.

@@lifeis2171 Sorry, I don't understand what this comment is attempting to communicate

this is a really good point

I'm with you except for the "whiteness" part. Sounds like you've got some funny ideas about white people.

@@shaunhunterit342 Okey dokey

I lost a lot of interest in the show when they didn't work out! Still loved it but it felt like a personal break up xD

Eric and Mr. Feeny are an incredibly underrated comedic duo

It's unfortunately a popular trope when it comes to black female characters in particular (The Take talked about it recently, though they included biracial characters as well). We're there for a little spice, but it's like the black character in a horror movie: It's ultimately not meant for us to have a satisfying conclusion. We're just there to round things out for a bit. Honestly, compared to what she went through behind the scenes, I couldn't care less about the on-screen at this point (though it is problematic).

@@LadyAstarionAncunin so I never watch ABC/NBC/FOX shows like I actually hate them lol However, the lady in my life recently got me to watch greys anatomy and oh. My. Gosh. I’ve never seen better written black people. They’re actually people with feelings and opinions and goals and fears. It was surprising as hell and incredibly refreshing. As a stereotypical large disgruntled black man, it can be weird sometimes to live a life where I experience severe anxiety, am scared of the dark, pretty sensitive in general and very empathetic. It’s like two parts of my identity that don’t fit together based entirely on my experience perceiving the world. In an episode in I think season 9, a black security guard is frightened when he arrives at the hospital, and ultimately runs out in a gown and is panicking. I was taken aback at how human he was and not just some stereotype-and that was just a single-episode random character. There are many other series regulars that are black that have fully fleshed out personalities and emotions. I’m gonna stop but it’s legit the best I’ve seen (I don’t watch much shows/movies tho to be fair). One small note, however, the show in general does a very poor job with men. Not that it’s an issue-it’s a chick show and men have had more than enough time and energy devoted to stories about them (I mean patriarchy? The world? It’s entire history?) so it’s not like a gripe, but the lack of well-written men is really the only time when the writing of blackness is done poorly and it’s just because it’s men being written as idealistic deities of patience and forgiveness. Hope that all makes sense

@Nanimo The Take is the GOAT

The dude killed by a pencil through the head and Jennifer Love Fefferman live rent free in my mind.

Rewatched that episode recently, it absolutely holds up in its own way 😂👍

Favorite episode. The cast says they loved filming that one too.

It's campy and fun, but also has that serious twist. It's such a good episode.

When I first watched it. I genuinely got someone scared at first. Lol 😂

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would have been great to have feeny as a mentor. im sure most ppl just had a grumpy old neighbor that tattled on them instead lol

YAYYYYY!!!!? Serendipity!

The way I was just begging for more Angela video essays AND NOW THERE'S ABOUT TO BE TWO?!?!?? i'm blessed

ik cory and topanga are seen as the quissential high school sweethearts of sitcoms, but homie cheated on topanga's loyal ass twice. he sucks. cory aint shit

Cory was so evil on that show

Cory's not evil and angela's not the best character

Disney stay ruining ships we actually like, I think they are allergic to couples with actual chemistry.

I see nothing but the TRUTH✨

GMW could've been SO good! I was stoked when I saw they were making it. It was ok but didn't hit the same as BMW

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Half the people in my hometown met in high school and got married. It's not that unusual.

@@krazykaye8843 It was in NYC when I grew up.

@@Sam_on_KZfaqUmmm... okay.🤔 What am I missing?

@@krazykaye8843 Don't know that you're missing anything. We just have different experiences. Among people I knew, it was highly unusual. Not for you.

The youtuber José coincidentally just uploaded a long video on the series which I can’t recommend enough. He’s got a series of sit-com retrospectives that are actually really insightful, while providing a nice nostalgic refresher

I agree that Shawn was more compelling than Cory--just as Hyde was more compelling than Eric on That 70s Show.

Title suggestion..What does Rammstein mean to Germany. You're welcome.

Well... okay, fair enough, but maybe you should look beyond Games of fucking Thrones as an example of adult stories. There's a lot more variety out there than you seem to think. (Also, to clarify, I'm still pissed at GoT, but not at all at you.)

I think adults can get value out of watching something like Paw Patrol. Whatever amuses/interests you is what you should watch, even if it's shows for kids. Arthur, for example, is still a great show to watch even though I'm in my 30s.

Exactly, most adult comedies and dramadies are 100% about friendships and fleeting romances. This person needs a huge recs list!

adulthood is boring? pssh speak for yourself. it can be depressing cuz u learn life is way more complicated and dark than u thought as a kid. but it aint boring

You're 100% correct on this

i'll see what i can do :-D

When are you going to get on Nebula, José?

I love both of you guys

I always loved absurd humor, but as a recent graduate baked out of my gourd, with nothing better to do on a Friday night, Playswithsquirrels was the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life. Niche?

I love how you both made BMW related videos at the same time!

Watch it on Disney+ and see. Imo, watching it as kid initially then as an adult, Corey and Topanga are like the Disney version of true love where they're just together, infatuated, and loyal forever because the plot says so and Shawn and Angela seem more 3-dimensional like they're choosing to love each other despite all their flaws because of they're connection

@@propogandalf yeah like _whhyy_ exactly were topange and cory so in love to the point they wanted to get married? and i love that the interracial relationship wasnt a big deal at all. nowadays itd be a woke talking point with the girl just making jokes about her bf being white while he just takes it

im sorry to hear that. shawn is definitely the kid that 'grew up too fast' or had too. getting himself in bad situatiosn cuz no one was looking out for him. also the type to have sex really young although that isnt really addressed cuz he just dates several girls. hwoever, he did imply he had experience but just didnt go all the way yet in that killer epsiode

Wow, sorry about your brother in law

Topanga's god tier level hair is second

Ironic considering how things were off screen. When it's like that, the question becomes, "Who is this for then?" It's like there was resentment of the actress even being there, which sours whatever played out on screen for me.

@@LadyAstarionAncunin The problem is, when conservatives going over the deep end and liberals cashing out, there is a misconception that the 90s were a period of enlightenment. Being a teen at the time, they weren’t. The ladder is slowly being pulled up. I don’t think it’s a surprise that an actress of color would have been treated poorly at the time. The liberal notion then was “look at all we’ve done for you, suck it up.”

@@LadyAstarionAncunin yeah I was gonna rewatch it but that just made me not be able to.

I agree. Shawn wasn't mature enough and he had more unresolved issues.

@@LadyAstarionAncunin how is it ironic? trina got along fine with rider. ik she didnt with the others to some degree. not sure how its ironic when they are acting as well

I agree, I remember watching back then for Shawn and Angela because I thought Corey was such an immature kid who annoyed me to no end. I could not understand why he and Topanga stayed together to save my life.

i liked corey in the first few seasons cuz he was just genuinely a kid, hence the immaturity, as that played a part into the lessons he eventually learned. i found it so cute he complained loudly about silly stuff. but like i said he was a kid. when he entered into his teen years at some point he became rly bratty and entitled when he was old enough to know better

I agree ✨ I think Shawn carried the show and Shawngela was the most interesting couple

"90s teen drama handle adult themes better than anyone ever has." Lol, what?

Animorphs was so depressing. I loved it, though.

Speaking of season 1… i rly HATED how they changed Topanga’s characher😭 i really liked her as the weird hippy girl it was the reason why i liked her and one of the reason’s why i kept watching. For example her vegetarianism… wiped Unique way of thinking… wiped Her own (familial) antics… wiped She just became ”Cory’s girlfriend” in a sort of way😪😪

@@gabthegreat yeah. Season 1 of Boy Meets World seemed like a completely different show from the other seasons. It having a in-credit theme song, Minkus being one of the main characters, Topanga being a weird hippie chick, her and Shawn having sisters, and Topanga meeting Eric for the first time in that same episode where she had a crush on him. It’s almost like the show was still in development WHILE airing on ABC lol

I vaguely remember that episode that they rented a hotel room to have sex. And then decided not to. I’m glad because sex is really perverted

@@JamesChessman 😂😂 why is cinsentual sex perverted? They were old enough when they even considered it

Wait, what?! That's so cool. I always wanted Zack Morris to date Lisa on Saved by the Bell. Had to wait for Mixed-ish 😅

@@mundaneamazing They dated in real life, found out from the Saved by the Bell movie Dustin diamond (screech) made years ago.

Not to mention, if one takes off the table the whole 'Cory and Topanga are THE ideal couple' concept, the mutual affection between them was virtually GONE the way they were depicted in GMW with Topanga barely tolerating Cory and constantly belittling him and his personality to their family and friends and him playing passive-aggressive games. IOW, their marriage now STANK but everyone on the show kept pretending they had THE perfect union! While I think Shawn and Angela could have worked in the longterm, I don't think it was right to sabotage them JUST because ONLY Cory& Topanga were the only ones allowed to have a 'happy ending'- especially since (if one wants to acknowledge the room elephant) theirs was anything but. Oh, and I thought it was awful that Cory, Riley and Katy were so openly rude and hostile to Angela when ALL she did was walk into the cafe asking to speak to Shawn and she was nothing but polite to everyone during her time! I wish Shawn had called them on it saying he and Angela had LOVED each other and he wouldn't tolerate someone he'd loved being so harshly treated!

@@wardarcade7452 I think Rider Strong would've been down for that rewrite.

his reasoning is silly. cory and topanga are fairy tale-ish. he cheated on her twice and they get married, wait to have sex on their wedding night, and stay together. gimme a break. with hoe self respecting topanga was, it's sad she stayed with him after he cheated twice. angela and shawn were way more realistic. it happened naturally rather than the 'kids were in love since their were babies' trope they shoehorned in later with cory and topanga. they had arguments but resolved it better than the cory and topanga who fought all the damn time. and cory and topanga werent even on the same page regarding sex. he was a horndog who wanted to bang forever and she wanted to wait. in reality, especially considering he already cheated, he definitely would have broken up with her or cheated again by having sex with another girl. angela and shawn were insanely into each other and that showed when they became secure in their relationship in college. they were young and horny and embraced and its even better cuz they loved each otherl but nah, tv has to showcase a pure couple who waits til marriage despite all their toxicity and glaring differences that this is the correct way despite the fact teen pregnancy was at its peak in the 90s. let's be real. more couples were like angela and shawn.

I thought about it some more and it sounds like Mr. Jacob's reaction to how a large portion of the shows' viewers got upset with Shawn and Angela's romance failing/retrotrashed by claiming to have the 'there can only be ONE Cory and Topanga. ... ' so called manta sounds almost like someone putting their fingers in their ears and going 'la-la-la' so they don't to admit to others (and themselves) that they BLEW it both by trashing the viable bond between Shawn and Angela that got depicted AND by insisting that Cory+Topanga's bond was the only one that had/could have succeeded (while totally ignoring the room elephant that Cory +Topanga via the shows' depictions wound up having a dysfunctional bond dominated by pettiness & sniping which actually STANK).

I find that so weird too because like, to have not one but TWO iconic love stories is absolutely amazing for any popular series. Both of Friends's main couples were always side by side and there was never a problem with focusing on them.

That’s why the relationship was so troubling and hard he felt completed with her. Like the other side was filled that might be why he loved her so much.

ODDWORLD, ABE'S EXODUS! That was seriously bugging me, lol.

There's no reason not to think that Angela's unnamed military husband of four years in she mentioned 'Girl Meets World might possibly have been her 'steady, peaceful and healthy love'!

Not for me. Dynamic was sold as being mutually benefical, but truthfully Jack sold out/leaned on Eric's spontaneity more than Eric benefitted from Jack.

maybe if the show as modern but they were definitely just good friends and nothing moree

@@MsDudette21 yeah, the definitely were just bros

One episode made me ship Angela and jack Lmaooo

@@E_MZ_same! They should’ve ended up together