girl meets ableism (who allowed this to air??)

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lulaloopsey

lulaloopsey

Күн бұрын

girl meets world? more like girl meets ableism.. see what i did there? anyway just clarifying here that i'm autistic because i've never made a video related to it on here but this has been in my notes for months so i'm glad i got around to talking about !
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0:00 Intro
4:12 Episode overview
19:01 Outro/after thoughts
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@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
instagram: instagram.com/lulaloopsey/ twitter: twitter.com/lulaloopsey second channel: youtube.com/@lulapoopsy?si=hXjdx7jivP32txbc youtube has turned off my comments like 3x since posting this video 👎👎 i will keep turning them back on though
@SarmadTechLab
@SarmadTechLab Жыл бұрын
Ikr that happens to my videos all the time
@Pukeprincess
@Pukeprincess Жыл бұрын
Screw the KZfaq algorithm!
@makemesomecoffee7821
@makemesomecoffee7821 9 ай бұрын
Off topic but, that clip in the beginning was so cute! It reminds me of how I had my tablet and barbie dreamhouse and staged little parties in my room with my stuffed animals. I miss those times.
@nerdgeek9797
@nerdgeek9797 3 ай бұрын
I 😂this 😊😊
@SquirmieWormington
@SquirmieWormington 4 ай бұрын
Theory: he lied about not being autistic so his friends would stop being weird
@riddlersongs8544
@riddlersongs8544 4 ай бұрын
you’re so real❤
@Heretowatchvideos123
@Heretowatchvideos123 4 ай бұрын
Bro deserves better friends 💀
@PebblePot
@PebblePot 4 ай бұрын
that makes so much more sense
@hai2a
@hai2a 4 ай бұрын
You just know he’s immediately gonna stop talking to them once he goes to college
@notme-fy7xe
@notme-fy7xe 4 ай бұрын
He shoulda went to that private school…
@trinitythompsontt
@trinitythompsontt Жыл бұрын
They acted like he told them he had stage four brain cancer .. like he was going to die and they couldn’t believe
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
refuse to believe that this didn’t have a role in how people treat autism like it’s a disease
@glutenfreemuffincake4267
@glutenfreemuffincake4267 7 ай бұрын
100% agree
@oooh19
@oooh19 4 ай бұрын
People tend to be very ignorant
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes 4 ай бұрын
Fr this would look awful in the 2000’s let alone the 2010’s 💀
@Chronal-Rend
@Chronal-Rend 4 ай бұрын
Want to say this is why I use language like "is autistic " versus " has autism ". Cuz I feel like if you say somebody has something it comes across as a disease. Rather than they just are the way they are.
@glutenfreemuffincake4267
@glutenfreemuffincake4267 7 ай бұрын
I hate how Riley’s core personality trait around smackle was “I know she doesn’t like hugs, BUUT I am going to hug her until I am successful at forcing her to adore them just as much as I do.” It’s like Riley is autism speaks around smackle
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention that it gives the warped message to the tween/teen viewers that anyone who doesn't like hugs must be a total freak and/or ingrate who deserves to be bullied and shamed for their tudes in front of their peers! EGADS that's a VERY toxic tude to encourage- regardless of whether or not the hug dislikers are neurodivergent! Of course, this all fits in with Riley's tude of constantly wanting to overwhelm and destroy others' boundaries (all her peers but especially Maya's and Lucas's) instead of trying to respect others' boundaries which true friends are supposed to do even if they don't like or understand the reasons for them!
@RB-vo4gi
@RB-vo4gi 4 ай бұрын
There was a girl in high school who treated me exactly like Riley treated that girl in this scene.
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 4 ай бұрын
@@RB-vo4gi That's AWFUL! I hope you've been able to have other folks respect your boundaries despite that one's attempts!
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes 4 ай бұрын
She would wear a puzzle piece shirt
@DrDelicateTouch03
@DrDelicateTouch03 4 ай бұрын
There was this one girl in elementary school who would literally ambush me with hugs, we would make eye contact, she'd get super excited, and then run up to me and hug me, despite knowing I was extremely uncomfortable. It had gotten to the point I was terrified of seeing her.
@jellygirljude
@jellygirljude Жыл бұрын
I love how they attempted to make the moral of the episode "labels are limiting and don't define you!" but then go on to make the autistic characters walking sterotypes
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY
@trumanbadra8003
@trumanbadra8003 4 ай бұрын
named farkle and schmackle. Im dying this is so wild
@doefarris2189
@doefarris2189 4 ай бұрын
"Labels are limiting and don't define you!" = "you being x is uncomfortable/inconvenient for me, so I'm just going to pretend you're 'normal.'"
@zyqa
@zyqa 3 ай бұрын
@@doefarris2189 YUP they were SO uncomfortable with their friend just CONSIDERING he was autistic... as if getting a diagnosis would've made him a different person or something
@broadwaybaby8914
@broadwaybaby8914 3 ай бұрын
Yeah… right message… WRONG demonstration
@royal6659
@royal6659 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Maya and Riley told Smackle, “it’s okay to be different 🤗" when she told them she had autism…as if they weren’t treating autism like it was something horribly fatal the entire episode
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY if that was the lesson of this episode then why did you guys treat farkle like that & treat smackle badly the entirety of the episode
@makaita6070
@makaita6070 8 ай бұрын
@@lulaloopseyexactly
@NotWhatIamMadeFor
@NotWhatIamMadeFor 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! Of all people Maya should have known better. She (and Shawn) have had the biggest mental health struggles out of all the characters in the BMW/GMW universe. Maya should have been the one saying "Hey guys, no matter what the results of the test say, he is still Farkle and he is always going to be a weirdo!"
@sparkyblue7016
@sparkyblue7016 6 ай бұрын
@@NotWhatIamMadeFor I think they messed up a lot of maya's character on purpose. Not just for this but for other things as well, like she liked Lucas, had great chemistry with him, she was growing as a person, she misbehaved due to family issues, now she has a dad and is getting better, doing her homework and studying but wait, it isnt character development Maya is trying to copy Riley cause that is what it should be. Everyone should be like Riley and she is the strandard. A lot of times, Maya's character setting, her previous actions and current ones didnt match. They progressed her but degressed her again, because they werent developing Riley in that way. So to me even that reaction from her didnt seem genuine and out of character to treat Farkle that way.
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 5 ай бұрын
@@NotWhatIamMadeFor I know you meant well but calling someone a 'weirdo' isn't an automatic term of endearment. IMO, it would have been better had Maya said something like 'Hey guys, no matter what the results of the test say, he's still Farkle and we'll always like him for who he is!'
@Josh-wu7kz
@Josh-wu7kz Жыл бұрын
It would’ve been somewhat helpful if he was diagnosed with autism, the fact they went back on it and were so happy he didn’t have it is the worst part.
@kissarococo2459
@kissarococo2459 5 ай бұрын
They could have educated teens WHY the diagnosis is often helpful: to help better prevent workplace discrimination, to help recover from past labels like "lazy" "crazy" "unfriendly" etc.
@emmablack1230
@emmablack1230 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the reasons they didn't was so that they wouldn't have to factor that into the writing of a main character. For example, if Sheldon from Big Bang was said have ASD in the show people would be more knit picky on how he was written
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 4 ай бұрын
And the reason they decided he wasn't autistic was because he loves his friends like huh 😭😭
@jasperwisecarver
@jasperwisecarver 4 ай бұрын
I feel like they just wanted to keep making fun of him for being "weird" and if he had a diagnosis it'd seem too ableist 💀😭
@BlueShadow7777
@BlueShadow7777 3 ай бұрын
I was giving disney way too much credit and thinking "oh, maybe at the end of the episode they realize that they reacted badly and then apologize or something", but uhhhh...
@anniej844
@anniej844 Жыл бұрын
10:47 the thing that annoys me is that, (I’m assuming this Farkle kid is the “weird” one of the group) is that they call him weird all the time, literally joking about how he’s so odd, but the second he says he’s autistic they’re all “but you’re so normal????”
@cupio-stardust
@cupio-stardust Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that’s my family right there. They’re always saying, “you’re so weird” “the odd one out” but when I said I might be autistic they switched up super fast. “But kids with autism can’t do the things that you can do, you’re too smart and normal to be autistic”
@Groggle7141
@Groggle7141 11 ай бұрын
@@cupio-stardustTo be fair, there are specific signs in people with autism than just being “weird.”
@cupio-stardust
@cupio-stardust 11 ай бұрын
@@Groggle7141 but I show literally more than half of typical autism symptoms.
@onettaviator5396
@onettaviator5396 4 ай бұрын
​@@Groggle7141 That's a pretty big part of it, though. Speaking as someone who was diagnosed as a baby.
@lxmesoda
@lxmesoda 4 ай бұрын
"but you dont LOOK autistic.. 🤨" typa shit
@giothesailor
@giothesailor Жыл бұрын
The way that girl said ''let's go tell them you don't'' is legitimately disturbing everytime i watch it
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
it’s so unserious
@everettlovesmen
@everettlovesmen 4 ай бұрын
literally like girl are you the doctor?
@Ang3lic-P
@Ang3lic-P 4 ай бұрын
DUDE IT GENUINELY WAS SCARY LIKE THOSE GIRLS WERE SCARING ME .
@veronica_sawyer_1989
@veronica_sawyer_1989 4 ай бұрын
and then five seconds later "it’s okay to be different" ☺️☺️
@smashedmelon3156
@smashedmelon3156 4 ай бұрын
I felt so threatened like It when really culty sounding?
@scollaceyuri
@scollaceyuri Жыл бұрын
farkle deserved better friends tbh
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
As did Maya,Lucas and Zay!
@caitlingill
@caitlingill 9 ай бұрын
@@wardarcade7452so basically Riley is the problem 😂
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 9 ай бұрын
@@caitlingill NAILED IT!
@EditedAF987
@EditedAF987 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@caitlingillthe girl met the world, and the world suffered for it.
@The-Busy-Beeeee
@The-Busy-Beeeee 4 ай бұрын
@@EditedAF987fr fr she could have been such a cool cute character if she was written better. Like she could’ve been the cute innocent type of girl who has a wonderful heart of gold. Like if she was more empathetic she could’ve been such a great character. For example she could see Smackle was uncomfortable and be like would you like an invisible hug or a high five or fistbumb or something. That’s honestly what I did with my autistic friend WHO HATED with a deep passion she hated hugs.
@MadamPigeonx
@MadamPigeonx Жыл бұрын
If this school was real and I was in this class, I would dread going every day. These main characters are insufferable and they would give me social anxiety
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
STOPPP THATS SO TRUE
@louyou6614
@louyou6614 4 ай бұрын
​@lulaloopsey In real life we would be complaining about her dad favoritism , like parents would have been involved , they often dont study or he change the lesson to fit his children
@mentalish9417
@mentalish9417 4 ай бұрын
@@louyou6614In real life they made it so that the teachers kids were never placed in their parents class
@louyou6614
@louyou6614 4 ай бұрын
@@mentalish9417 idk about it , last year my physic teacher had his son in his class , but ngl , that teacher was competent and preoffessional , and like , we all loved him , so i dont think anybody felt like there was favoritism , and his son was good at physic so he didnt interact in class that much
@halatiny6537
@halatiny6537 3 ай бұрын
My eyes would roll out of my head
@imnotfunny2
@imnotfunny2 10 ай бұрын
as a kid watching this episode i legitimately thought that autism was this deadly brain disease which is insane since i was diagnosed with autism years later
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 ай бұрын
did you survive
@imnotfunny2
@imnotfunny2 4 ай бұрын
@@Tw0Dots yes… but at a cost 😓
@zyqa
@zyqa 3 ай бұрын
I never watched a lot of Disney channel as a kid and had NO idea what exactly autism was until I was in high school and later found out I was Autistic. The whole time I knew Autism affected how people behave and that was about it, I never saw it as a disease or anything, just a different kind of person. I'm kind of glad I never saw this show as I would've had a terribly misguided view on Autism.. I found out about what Autism was when one of my friends in high school told me he was diagnosed. He had a lot of odd traits similar to me, but I had long suppressed them to fit in.
@da9tailslayer747
@da9tailslayer747 3 ай бұрын
@@imnotfunny2 ur funny, ima subscribe to you and hope i see your comments in other videos lol
@nai8079
@nai8079 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I would have thought the same thing too, but I went to school with a huge special needs program and I have a cousin with Down syndrome. I think being around people who actually have it at younger age made me understand more about the kids in the program. Especially, being around my cousin and the stereotype he’s placed it because of something he can’t control.
@writteninthestars02
@writteninthestars02 4 ай бұрын
I think their negative reaction *could've* worked if Farkle had actually been autistic and their reactions could've been a learning moment. Like Farkle telling them, "autism isn't a disease. It's just who I am. I'm still Farkle. Now you just know a little more about me." and instead they went "psych! he's not autistic he's just WEIRD." like come on.
@hannahnicold7455
@hannahnicold7455 2 ай бұрын
right. it could’ve been a commentary on how autism is perceived and treated in our society but they ended up just reinforcing that negative narrative surrounding autism. such a shame.
@sarahthomas8670
@sarahthomas8670 Ай бұрын
Right
@ssscout
@ssscout 9 ай бұрын
i hate that i grew up thinking that part of being autistic was not fitting in or being perceived as "normal" - we live in a disappointing world
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey 9 ай бұрын
ableism is truly taught
@ssscout
@ssscout 9 ай бұрын
real@@lulaloopsey
@woobiefuntime
@woobiefuntime 4 ай бұрын
@@lulaloopsey I never totally cared after a while. I knew I wouldn't fit in .
@AyshaLovesYou
@AyshaLovesYou 4 ай бұрын
It’s so funny to me because I really “fit in” in high school. I was part of the “popular” kids crowd. I was late-diagnosed at 25 and it’s because I am amazing at masking and “fitting in” with the crowd.
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 ай бұрын
wait so its not??? idek anymore
@MM-dw5ir
@MM-dw5ir Жыл бұрын
I was expecting them to be in denial about his diagnosis and then learn more about it and embrace and accept it at the end, i was NOT expecting him to be like, “uh nevermind lol”
@lazarus_reversal
@lazarus_reversal 11 ай бұрын
why would he embrace and accept it? this was back in the day lol, people treated it like a death sentence back then (even moreso than they do today) lol
@bluewolf2708
@bluewolf2708 11 ай бұрын
​@@lazarus_reversal 2014-2017 was not the stone age.. it's not that different, and anyone who knows about Autism knows that. This comment is very disrespectful.
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 4 ай бұрын
@@lazarus_reversalI was autistic in 2017, what the fuck are you talking about?
@SamSeth1996
@SamSeth1996 4 ай бұрын
Anyone diagnosed before these years?
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 4 ай бұрын
What's worse is the reason they decided he wasn't autistic.....it's because he loves his friends 🙃
@kyletheanimator8911
@kyletheanimator8911 Жыл бұрын
“Y-you don’t… 😟” “you DONT have autism… 😢” bruh 💀
@feliperoa5821
@feliperoa5821 3 ай бұрын
"No, you don't have canc- I mean pneumonya- I mean autism"
@comicsans3537
@comicsans3537 2 ай бұрын
My mom, circa 2024:
@granautismo69
@granautismo69 Жыл бұрын
As an autistic person myself, this just fucking hurts to watch. I'm not a prodigy, I'm a dumbass who's terrible at maths but can play instruments and draw anthro animals. My autism isn't a disease, it's part of my identity.
@granautismo69
@granautismo69 Жыл бұрын
I can also infodump about My Singing Monsters til the cows come home, as you can probably guess by looking at my pfp. Like how Bellowfish is mostly a Breaking Bad reference.
@gaolen
@gaolen 7 ай бұрын
@@granautismo69 ive never even heard of it, please summarise it for me
@granautismo69
@granautismo69 7 ай бұрын
​@@gaolenBellowfish's reveal poster resembles the breaking bad logo, its elements are crystal + mech and its default names can be Heisenberg, Jesse, Skylar, Walter, Mike, etc.
@gaolen
@gaolen 7 ай бұрын
@@granautismo69 i see, sounds interesting. maybe ill look into it
@KingOfGaymes
@KingOfGaymes 4 ай бұрын
It’s so upsetting that autism is only shown in media when it’s the “good kind” like being super smart. It sucks
@vampireinsomniac2251
@vampireinsomniac2251 6 ай бұрын
When I was diagnosed, I felt relief knowing what was up with me. Seeing these characters act like autism is a death sentence genuinely hurts.
@introusas
@introusas 4 ай бұрын
I literally cried tears of joy when my diagnosis finally sunk in, and since that day my quality of life and self worth has increased exponentially. Neurotypicals should not be allowed to write autistic characters, END OF.
@littlemoth4956
@littlemoth4956 4 ай бұрын
@@introusasBro what? That’s such a far claim from what anyone was talking about here. Autistic people can only be hurt by gatekeeping the writing of characters on the spectrum. Neurotypical people should definitely confirm their writing with neurodivergent people if they are writing such characters, that’s a given. But barring them from writing neurodiversity altogether? That’s just bizarre and unhelpful.
@m.htruth8880
@m.htruth8880 3 ай бұрын
​@@littlemoth4956Autism isn't the only type of neurodivergence
@m.htruth8880
@m.htruth8880 3 ай бұрын
Honestly accepting lables can be pretty bad. I don't really understand why ppl do it.
@lexiatel
@lexiatel 3 ай бұрын
Does that mean abnormal people shouldn't write normal people?
@BlinkOfAnEye1331
@BlinkOfAnEye1331 4 ай бұрын
Idk why, but I always took him saying “I’m just Farkle.” As a ‘I do have it but you reacted weird so I’m lying and reacting how you want me too’
@avinatine
@avinatine 4 ай бұрын
SO TRUE
@TECH097
@TECH097 5 ай бұрын
Autistic here, was gonna say if this episode ended with Farkle saying he wasnt autistic and everyone cheering and the audience clapping that would've been the funniest shit ever. Absolutely TASTELESS for sure but man it would've been ridiculous haha
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 4 ай бұрын
They decided he wasn't autistic because he loves his friends....🙃
@TECH097
@TECH097 4 ай бұрын
@@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 "Don't worry we cured him with hugs, that's how we'll cure Smackle uwu"
@Darkstalker1012
@Darkstalker1012 4 ай бұрын
@@TECH097 🤣🤣🤣
@Bee-rt5qf
@Bee-rt5qf 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@TECH097 not the uwu 😂
@smolson8471
@smolson8471 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how how they explicitly show how not to react to a friend being autistic. even with Smackle, as someone with autism who usually gets overwhelmed by touch I would hope that a decent friend who knew that wouldn't take every opportunity to hug me while shrugging off my discomfort.
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
Riley practically spelt out that Smackle not adoring Riley's hugs meant that Smackle was ungrateful and/or there was something wrong with Smackle. And let's not forget that not only was Riley's tude not called out but viewers were expected to adore and ID with Riley! BOO!!
@gaolen
@gaolen 7 ай бұрын
i mean tbf the threatening tone in which the girls tell him hes not autistic is pretty relatable to being called agressively "but youre nothing like my 5yo nephew"
@thealmightybipper3381
@thealmightybipper3381 3 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking. It sucks, but it is kinda accurate to how some people react. Whenever I'd mention thinking I might be autistic, my mom would react just about as badly as the girls in the show. I was hoping maybe the lesson would be for the girls not to tell people how to feel. But no...
@_bebeboudeur_
@_bebeboudeur_ 2 ай бұрын
@@thealmightybipper3381 exactly what i was thinking, it's not a good reaction but it is something that happens in real life unfortunately
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 4 ай бұрын
I hate when they refer to him as “farkle-y” like they literally acknowledge that he’s different from other people, but in like this patronizing way, then they deny that it could possibly be a condition.
@n0b0dy--
@n0b0dy-- 3 ай бұрын
This is how I've been treated my whole life, since I'm not diagnosed I talk about my own autism-ness this way. Of course this is offensive for other people but I quite like it, especially when I see it happen to other people like I'm not the only one. Like when I was younger everyone thought I was just weird but that's just the way I was. I've been trying to tell people my whole life THERES A REASON FOR IT AND ITS NOT ALWAYS FUN FOR ME
@KANGAXRUU
@KANGAXRUU Жыл бұрын
"F-farkle... this isn't you!🥺"
@ctrl_cira
@ctrl_cira Жыл бұрын
Disney has somehow managed to have both Girl Meets World and Andi Mack and it makes no sense how both aired around the same time.
@gimmefeedback
@gimmefeedback Жыл бұрын
Andi Mack would’ve handled autism MILES better than GMW. The more I hate GMW the more I miss and appreciate AM.
@deinodinosuchus
@deinodinosuchus Жыл бұрын
is andi mack good? i’ve thought about watching it (and i can’t totally tell if you thought it was good or bad by the comment TvT)
@awaywiththefaeries9464
@awaywiththefaeries9464 Жыл бұрын
@@deinodinosuchus don’t remember much about Andi Mack but the main character found out early on that her sister was her mum and her parents were her grandparents. I think there was a gay character too.
@deinodinosuchus
@deinodinosuchus Жыл бұрын
@@awaywiththefaeries9464 i do remember that much, i just don't know if it's actually good/well done 😂 i might check it out
@awaywiththefaeries9464
@awaywiththefaeries9464 Жыл бұрын
@deinodino I do think there was a controversy around one of the actors. Cause I remember wanting to watch it on Disney + and the entire first season was missing.
@adr3nal1ne_rush
@adr3nal1ne_rush 4 ай бұрын
the amount of times I’ve had people respond to me this EXACT way when I tell them I’m suspected AuDHD. “no you’re not” or listing all these things “disproving” as to why I couldn’t be neurodivergent. and the more upsetting thing is they think they’re being helpful because neurodivergency is treated as such a disease
@Jade.051
@Jade.051 4 ай бұрын
You’re weird until you brought up the possibility of being autistic, then you’re the most normal person in the world😂
@Jade.051
@Jade.051 4 ай бұрын
@Irishmando155 That type of reaction is why I’m reluctant to tell people i’m getting an assessment next month, yeah maybe it’s nothing but their attitude may change regardless. I’m so sorry you had to go through that, I hope the diagnosis gave you at least some peace of mind, people suck
@acoelomate2984
@acoelomate2984 Жыл бұрын
you KNOW they “consulted with” autism speaks on this one holy shit it’s so bad but then again, the good doctor is still running after first airing around the same time that episode came out and from what little i know it would seem that they’re still weirdly obsessed with sean’s sex life so :/ we live in hell
@pochijp
@pochijp Жыл бұрын
No? Yes, there was this arc about Shawn (or Sean idk) discovering how he felt about sex and that stuff, but it actually ended, and it happened in between of (I think) season three. It was just for some chapters ^_^
@cupio-stardust
@cupio-stardust Жыл бұрын
@@pochijp exactly, I think an arc like that would be good even if Shaun wasn’t autistic, since discovering how you feel about it is important for future relationships.
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 4 ай бұрын
I wanted to watch The Good Doctor so bad, because I heard it was a good show....I couldn't get past the first episode with how they talk about autism :/
@demo2823
@demo2823 4 ай бұрын
​@@katarinachiogna-solovey3560Same, but I couldn't get through the opening scene where the rabbit gets killed. Speaking as an autistic person with a comfort rabbit.
@sydneyknobloch4095
@sydneyknobloch4095 4 ай бұрын
​@@demo2823what's your rabbit's name
@moikeycroikey
@moikeycroikey Жыл бұрын
me and my brother watched boy meets world last summer and, though it has it’s faults and arguably controversial moments, boy meets world handles topics way better than girl meets world. boy meets world could honestly handle autism better than girl meets world did for a show made in the 90s lol
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
this is what i’ve heard now i watched girl meets world even though i’ve never seen boy meets world so i couldn’t really mention this in my video cause it wouldn’t have made sense but i easily can agree
@Cinderspider
@Cinderspider Жыл бұрын
@@lulaloopsey girl meets world is written by the a lot of the same team iirc so I don’t know if that’s true that they would have handled it better
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
@@Cinderspider yeah i meant more like i think the topics were handled better but maybe i shouldn’t say that since i haven’t seen it
@mrggy
@mrggy 4 ай бұрын
I grew up watching reruns of Boy Meets World and never saw Girl Meets World. Based off the description of GMW in this video, I’m surprised to hear it was made by the same people as BMW. BMW centered around very realistic plot lines. I think a lot of 90s sitcoms tended more towards hyperrealism. The communist episode of GMW that got referenced where they dress up like communists(?) would have never happened in BMW. It seems like GMW took a lot of nods from 2000s Disney shows that leaned more into absurdism. Based off how BMW went, I was expecting the episode to circle back to Maya and Riley’s ableist reaction to Farkle being autistic and turn it into a life lesson from the adults about neurodivergence and not being ableist. BMW was big on showing kids having problematic reactions and then turning that into a teachable moment
@nihilism1652
@nihilism1652 4 ай бұрын
BMW is great honestly it’s so close to my heart. Every show has its faults but damn it gets so much right
@clay333
@clay333 3 ай бұрын
Another thing to note is the only two kids in the episode who might have autism have the strange names “Farkle” and “Smackle” while Maya, Riley, and Lucas all have typical names. This decision is very intentional, it’s like an additional step to show that they are quirky or weird, and that’s obviously what autisim is (when it’s really not!).
@mangata.
@mangata. 3 ай бұрын
i was just about to mention this. major red flag from the start
@eddardgreybeard
@eddardgreybeard Ай бұрын
Not really, considering the genius in boy meets world was named "minkus."
@glutenfreemuffincake4267
@glutenfreemuffincake4267 7 ай бұрын
The entire episode is literally Farkle and Smackle being like “it’s okay to have autism” And everyone else being ableist and literally the same as autism speaks and treating autism like he is being diagnosed with a form of cancer
@namechangermcgee
@namechangermcgee Жыл бұрын
i'm older gen z so i never saw girl meets world, but wow. wowww they screwed that up so bad. that's so raven would've bodied an autism plotline wtf was this 😭☠️
@jellygirljude
@jellygirljude Жыл бұрын
Same here; I never watched this show so I wasn't aware of this episode but god they just felt the need to pack every single autistic sterotype into one character in 25 minutes 💀 I'm tired of autistic people always being the "quiet genius bookworm" archetype in media.
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560
@katarinachiogna-solovey3560 4 ай бұрын
I'm older gen z and i watched it 😂 i watched disney til i was like 17 lmao
@Tw0Dots
@Tw0Dots 4 ай бұрын
so am i? But I watched it Plus since it was a BMW spin off, my mom watched with me :)
@hnichole
@hnichole 4 ай бұрын
I was young enough to still be interested when GMW began, but kind of phased out of Disney in later seasons. But even back then man, I knew GMW was trashhhhh. I remember turning the TV on for background noise for a few hours (I do homework to TV, not music lol) and this was one of the episodes that came on. Even then, as a minor, my jaw DROPPED, I could not believe this was something that was actually permitted to air.
@deano290
@deano290 4 ай бұрын
Fr 😭 thats so raven is so good at handling serious topics, the most famous being the racism episode (where raven isnt hired for a job because shes black)
@videobirdshow
@videobirdshow Жыл бұрын
How the heck is the episode of Suite Life Of Zack & Cody where Cody pretends to be dyslexic banned for ableism, but This episode is ok? That’s beyond me
@amakichou
@amakichou 4 ай бұрын
It wasn't Cody, it was Zack. Cody was mad at him entire time, because he knew that what he was doing was bad and not fair for their friend, who really had it.
@spntageous5249
@spntageous5249 4 ай бұрын
i think it was banned because they thought that kids would start pretending they had dyslexia because they saw it work out on tv....... and not that much because it was insensitive
@stellamariss3335
@stellamariss3335 3 ай бұрын
@@spntageous5249that’s what I would assume as well. Because in the show they made it out to not be a good thing to fake so they didn’t like make it okay to fake it. It’s just kids might get ideas just suppose. I would say the message of it was pretty okay since Cody was telling him it was wrong.
@steffy23456
@steffy23456 4 ай бұрын
The thing is, the way his friends acted, the specialist and even Farkle acted was realistic. I related to some of the aspects of that, as an autistic woman myself. The problem is that the show portrayed this as good and desireable. No, Maya and Rikey invalidating Farkle's experiences and saying that he won't do his "ha" s anymore is painful. It wasn't something funny, it wasn't something good. If they made a point about those attitudes being bad, about the invalidating, the gaslighting and the disrepects being called by their name, it would have been much better
@Jade.051
@Jade.051 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I say, their reactions and attitude towards the possible diagnosis could have been used to show how that’s not how to treat autism and bring awareness to it, real awareness, pointing out hiw those behaviors were horrible and learning to embrace it
@Groggle7141
@Groggle7141 11 ай бұрын
I don’t get it. When you are diagnosed with autism, that means you have always had it. Nothing about Farkle would change if he got the diagnoses. Would his friends treat him differently if he was diagnosed?
@gaolen
@gaolen 7 ай бұрын
somehow people will start acting diffrent once they know yeah. either in a positive way because it all makes sense now, or they start paying more attention to your autism traits and suddenly find everything annoying or weird. and of course theres the good old infantilization
@imbluedubbadee
@imbluedubbadee 4 ай бұрын
8:31 I *think* the joke is that sometimes we misread social cues, a lot of us nuerodivergents don't realise we're being hit on, and some of us overcompensate with setting boundaries worrying that anyone might be hitting on us without us knowing. Idk if that makes sense to anyone else 😅
@snowikitt1558
@snowikitt1558 4 ай бұрын
That’s what I thought too? But I’m not really sure
@mebii3830
@mebii3830 4 ай бұрын
Honestly that is probably the intention but also the whole "stop hitting on me" bit does feel like something an autistic person might joke about, although nobody else probably gets that it's a joke. It's just a silly little hc/theory for me
@witchassbitch3
@witchassbitch3 4 ай бұрын
@@mebii3830that’s exactly how I always interpreted it. It was a bit she had with herself
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
Oh, maybe!
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
The only thing I could think of was maybe since she was asking Farkle a question and then that other guy replied for him, maybe "Stop hitting on me" was, like, a sarcastic way of telling him "I wasn't asking you" or "Stay out of this".
@charliecat2948
@charliecat2948 4 ай бұрын
When Farcical says “They think I might have autism” the was Riley and Maya stood up and like started moving towards him was so intimidating it’s weird
@yellobanana6456
@yellobanana6456 3 ай бұрын
why is it so scary
@jadeshepherd8627
@jadeshepherd8627 18 күн бұрын
So intense for no reason
@charliecat2948
@charliecat2948 17 күн бұрын
@@jadeshepherd8627 fr
@haveagoodmourning
@haveagoodmourning Жыл бұрын
this is a very Glee style of show-writing and I mean that as an insult
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
this is my favorite comment
@moon_rose4437
@moon_rose4437 5 ай бұрын
i feel like, if they had made this an entire arc over several episodes, it could have brought awareness to what ableism looks like, and how it actually effects autistic people. imagine if farkle had lied about not having aspergers because of how badly his friends reacted to hearing the news, and he wanted to please them and stop being diminished or told that he's wrong. maybe at the end of the episode, there's a scene implying to the audience he actually does have it, then, over the next few episodes, we see the toll of how hard he's trying to mask, and hoe much it effects his mental health and relationship with his friends. we see how frustrated and increasingly angry he gets at how they treated him, and begins to resent the fact that he has to hide who he is just to cater to their perception of what autism is. eventually, theres another episode dedicated to exploring his autism, but this time, his friends see an institutional or outward example of ableism, and get mad at the mistreatment, acting like theyre better than whoever was being ableist, only for farkle to finally snap and tell them thats exactly how they act and have treated him, and he reveals that he lied about his misdiagnosis, and has had to pretend to be "normal" to be treated the same as he was before it. this causes the rest of them to actually reflect on who they are and how they veiw autism, and pushes them to change their perspective. then, they have a heartfelt scene, where they apologize to farkle and tell him they love and accept him, and that they dont see autism as a bad thing. this way, we see the friend group actually grow as people, and the audience gets to learn that maybe their pre-conceived notions are also wrong, and that even if you think you are a good person, you can still mishandle situations. of course, this would require competent, non-ableist writers, which girl meets world clearly lacked. it's unfortunate that we got this horrific episode and resolution instead.
@naiyadyani2466
@naiyadyani2466 4 ай бұрын
Dang, that would have been so good!
@afellowpotato
@afellowpotato 4 ай бұрын
That'd be great!
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
Yo, I LOVE this!!!!! :D FIX-IT FICS FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@tillyyy444
@tillyyy444 Жыл бұрын
man i loved this show as a kid :/ never realized how weird and ableist it was…
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
you are definitely not the only one i think people give this show a lot more credit than it deserves because of not only nostalgia but the fact it had the chance to have good representation & a good storyline but completely fumbled that chance
@nanaisalwaysbored
@nanaisalwaysbored Жыл бұрын
same I didn't realize that maya and josh's relationship was weird :(
@lemonadec0re
@lemonadec0re 4 ай бұрын
Me too
@hannahstacy7948
@hannahstacy7948 4 ай бұрын
The thing that drives me insane is that the writers KNEW how a normal reaction should go, like smackles, and maybe slightly like lucas(we don’t see it here but from what I remember he wasn’t judgy or freaking out, he said something along the lines of “okay can you tell me more about it” And yet the writers CHOSE to have Riley and maya be like that
@stellamariss3335
@stellamariss3335 3 ай бұрын
Lucas’s response is what it should be, and what is natural for me. But I feel the only reason they made Lucas so nonchalant is cause his character is written to be aloof. Which sucks cause that’s the best way to respond.
@petreasupagain5036
@petreasupagain5036 4 ай бұрын
I feel like the most accurate thing about this episode is farkle’s friends reactions to the possibility of Farkles diagnosis. The negative reactions to the idea of their friend being their idea of “too different” being so bad they try to deny and police his behaviour is sadly something that many people in the autistic and ADHD community have to tolerate and deal with on a daily basis. I also think it’s incredibly telling when they turn around in the last scene and say “there’s nothing wrong with being different” after we just went through an entire episode showing how “different” people are actually treated. I’m not saying everyone who isn’t on the spectrum behaves like this but this happens so much that the writers have even had to include it, I just wish they could have handled it better.
@Jade.051
@Jade.051 4 ай бұрын
Yes and they could have used those reactions to step by step them learning to embrace the boy’s diagnosis, it would have been a good episode of showing how it’s not a death sentence to have it
@AerynKDesigns
@AerynKDesigns 4 ай бұрын
I, as an AuDHD person (unlike the creator saying that it'd only be typicals that didn't track with them), agree with you more than the creator. The kids' reaction didn't shock me at all, it's the common denial that there's anything medically different about the boy, because being different is (still) seen as wrong or worrying. Being "a little weird" is drastically not the same as a medical/psychological diagnosis that they have to accept. Then as the children learned about the spectrum and that it's nothing bad or to be ashamed of, they could have recognised the boy's traits and happiness with his diagnosis. The first part wasn't the problem for me, it was the lack of follow through, and I think it had to do with not wanting to "deal with" writing an authentic character when they were only getting paid for one awareness episode.
@petreasupagain5036
@petreasupagain5036 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, This is what I’m saying I feel like this could have been an amazing “special episode” about how people who know absolutely nothing about Autism and adhd can be frightened by it to the point of unknowingly treating their friend on the spectrum with prejudice and how to overcome that from their perspective while also telling kids on the spectrum that it’s not a death sentence and they can look at it as complicated but not all bad. Instead we got a “oh thank god he doesn’t have the *ASPERGERS*” and a sob story from the actually autistic character and no accountability from the main characters about how they acted about a POSSIBLE diagnosis. I really feel for any child on the spectrum who saw this on TV and I’m a little disappointed by the writers but not surprised.
@mimoa769
@mimoa769 Жыл бұрын
as a kid i related to farkle heavily like i never felt so seen even though I was AFAB and a POC i just felt seen personality wise. A few years before i remember "Aspergers" being brought up by a teacher so i decided to research it myself and i related to it i thought it was just a descriptive word so i'd tell people i had it i was really happy they brought it up in the show then I remember not bringing it up for years after that episode i wouldn't even say I had it i'd tell people that "they said i might be but don't worry" i was ashamed after this episode I'm so glad I now am proud of my diagnosis
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i related to him too even without realizing why & i’m glad you are too!
@artsyhoodies
@artsyhoodies 4 ай бұрын
Watching Farkle and Smackle interact near the end of this episode was great. I love that he actually asked if he can hug her since EVERYONE knows that she does not like to be touched (cough cough *Maya* cough cough). The interactions between Smackle and Farkle were the best representations of how someone should treat someone with autism and the best way to react to someone saying they might be autistic. Anyway, Girl Meets World was such a fever dream sometimes, I swear.
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
That whole "Yeah, I know you don't like to be hugged, but I'm gonna do it anyway because screw you" schtick really pissed me off.
@MagicalGirlFia
@MagicalGirlFia Жыл бұрын
This is a good video. I’m so glad someone’s finally alone laying how strange this is. Like seriously, when I got my autism diagnosis the doctor was just like “yeah, you have autism” and gave me a peppermint. It wasn’t like he was sitting me down to tell me that I had cancer or anything. Also unrelated but I have subscribed to your channel.
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i’m glad you enjoyed! :D & yeah people online like to treat it so weirdly when we are just human beings like anyone else
@nebulamarshmelon21
@nebulamarshmelon21 3 ай бұрын
ik I'm a year late but it varies. luckily I think we are getting treated more equally as time goes on but my doctor somberly said I have Autism (used outdated term tho) and I kid you not my grandma gasped so loud and started crying??? I was only 9 or 10 so I literally thought it was some sort of deadly illness💀💀
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
"the doctor was just like “yeah, you have autism” and gave me a peppermint." This made me laugh in a good way. 😊
@benissopopular
@benissopopular Жыл бұрын
ok this show had such a big opportunity with the characters and dynamics they set up +storylines from bmw and they fumbled it. this show would do SO well with more progressive writing. (i mean as a kid i questioned a couple times whether riley and maya were about to kiss...)
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i definitely agree this show had the opportunity even in this case to have genuinely good representation with farkle, smackle, & potentially riley (no way she wasn’t at least neurodivergent) but absolutely fumbled it in every way with the bad writing/acting which eventually led to its cancellation for a reason.
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
@@lulaloopsey Whether or not Riley was neurodivergent, having her peers and even her parents treat her as though she was a flawless saint with no need to try to change for the better wound up doing Riley no favors.
@sapphic-emi
@sapphic-emi Жыл бұрын
growing up as a girl with undiagnosed autism, i was already going to autism speaks fundraisers set up by family members for my cousin, and this episode certainly did not help my view of asd. i was only just diagnosed a year ago, and looking back at one of my favorite shows growing up and how it handled this issue was severely upsetting. it makes me feel a bit better though that the whole show was really bad when it comes down to it lol. riley and farkle definitely have autism as well as smackle, and smackle was honestly the only good character in this show. thanks for reading my essay lol
@rampion1228
@rampion1228 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to be replying to a year old comment, but this just made me think of an absolute perfect twist for the episode: say if Riley got her hands on the test and started reading through it in a sort of "see how ridiculous this is" and then realised slowly that it all applied to her, leading to her being diagnosed with autism and having to have in depth conversations about it with an autism specialist and learn to accept that it's part of who she is. They had an absolute slam dunk lined up 😭
@joefreeman3087
@joefreeman3087 4 ай бұрын
OI always felt like Girl Meets World tried so hard to be a meaningful young adult but forgot that it was a Disney Channel original sitcom with only a certain amount of jokes they could use. I just felt like every time Mr Matthews opened his mouth there was just a waterfall of pretentiousness coming out. I swear they never just did a history lesson where they learned the facts and it was always just Corey directing some overblown profound lesson at only 4 of his students.
@Xx_Obsidian_Tears_xX
@Xx_Obsidian_Tears_xX 4 ай бұрын
each day was only one class, history. and each class was a few one liners from corey, then rebuttals from riley, maya, and farkle
@Anonymous-rs1ue
@Anonymous-rs1ue 3 ай бұрын
​@@Xx_Obsidian_Tears_xXalso side comments to the rest of the students which were hurtful.
@jordanmaessen9655
@jordanmaessen9655 2 ай бұрын
​@@Xx_Obsidian_Tears_xX to be fair that IS the formula of all sitcoms that feature kids going to school lol.
@oliviarose7108
@oliviarose7108 9 ай бұрын
the way the girls react to him saying he might be autistic is so aggressive jesus :')
@x.s5162
@x.s5162 4 ай бұрын
I hate that he "doesn't have it" now when clearly they made his character hit every (even stereotypical) bullet point. But I mean kinda rings true to some drs being like "you have friends, can look at eyes, get good grades. So I don't care if you have all the actual symptoms I'm not diagnosing." I hate Disney for doing this BS!
@bella-gx4uq
@bella-gx4uq Жыл бұрын
I have autism and I remember watching this show repetitively, I just forgot about this episode until I finished watching this video. The clips made it feel like such a vivid memory, it felt so off and I didn’t realize what autism really was until way after but imagine if I did have more insight on my autism and have more knowledge on what it means that could’ve really made me feel bad about myself. Wow
@kevinballerino426
@kevinballerino426 Жыл бұрын
Idk why but when I first saw this episode I was convinced that I was dying, they talk about autism like he’s got cancer then the “happy ending” is that he Dosent have it….
@adultishgambino1
@adultishgambino1 4 ай бұрын
Imagine a 90s episode of a kid questioning their sexuality and his friends do everything in their powers to convince him he’s straight then the episode ends with him figuring out he is straight but they bring in another random character that is gay and tell her they’re accepting of her and want to be friends only to never see that character again.
@johnh.mcsaxx3637
@johnh.mcsaxx3637 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, the girl that had autism at the end did become a regular character in the next season. Then again, that season was the worst season, so it wasn't the win for representation Disney thought it was.
@isabellapeterson599
@isabellapeterson599 Жыл бұрын
When I watched this. I remember thinking “why is that bad?” Looking back it’s like 😃
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i couldn’t even comprehend what was happening if you asked me what this was about as a kid i wouldn’t have been able to tell you it was beyond confusing
@ohdang1083
@ohdang1083 4 ай бұрын
This is kinda unrelated but any kind of ableism in media always takes me back to my high school English class where 80% of the kids talked about Lennie from Of Mice and Men like he was some cute little animal. And when we had to do an assignment talking about issues in their relation to neurodivergent individuals, almost everyone referred to neurodivergent people as ‘those people’ ‘what a blessing those brave caretakers are, having to deal with THOSE people’. I just hate how ingrained it is in so many people’s brains that neurodivergent individuals lives are somehow less valuable and a drain on neurotypical society
@videobirdshow
@videobirdshow 9 ай бұрын
UPDATE: I saw the ACTUAL ending of the episode. Farkle and Smackle were talking to each other, Farkle tells Smackle “I might have Asperger’s”, Smackle responds with “I have Asperger’s”. Riley and Maya were sitting RIGHT THERE and didn’t do crap about it. Have you seen that part?
@gaolen
@gaolen 7 ай бұрын
(sorry for possibly dumb but this is a made up alternative ending right?)
@videobirdshow
@videobirdshow 7 ай бұрын
@@gaolen no, it was the REAL ending
@TheProxy066
@TheProxy066 4 ай бұрын
@@videobirdshow What about what was shown in the video?
@videobirdshow
@videobirdshow 4 ай бұрын
@@TheProxy066 🤦‍♂️ watch the ending when Farkle and Smackle meet each other
@Breakfast_at_
@Breakfast_at_ 2 ай бұрын
Most people just don't like the show so they won't bother. I watched it myself and i can vouch for you
@leesimmers6693
@leesimmers6693 4 ай бұрын
This show always felt so weird and...empty to me? Like the school environment was so awkward, like it was just an empty backdrop for the main characters to exist in. And the girls always felt so rude and uncomfortable to be around. Especially side characters and teachers. Like no one would act like this Irl? This show was always on the background when I was a kid, the only real thing I got from it was the teacher explaining how Iceland got its name. Really not surprised any of its “actual messages” they tried to teach flunked HARD.
@AnimatedIdiotGuide
@AnimatedIdiotGuide 3 ай бұрын
As someone that did actually like this show when it aired, it’s amazing to me just how badly it’s aged since. It’s far more shallow than I thought and the scripts are juvenile. Compare it to the original Boy Meets World and there’s literally no contest.
@Pukeprincess
@Pukeprincess Жыл бұрын
This episode made me basically stop watching this show as a kid. I was already insecure about being autistic as a child, I tried to make sure no one would find out, after this episode I referred to myself as beast like and even said that I was “always acting like a drunk person” because of my diagnosis. I couldn’t see the show the same after they treated me like this. I’ve seen the majority of people dislike the episode for but never seen anyone talk about it. Autism is often portrayed in a two dimensional high school stereotype way, especially in unfunny sitcoms (thanks Sheldon), and I thank the gods that we have characters like Julia. Thank you for this video.
@Eliaskip
@Eliaskip 4 ай бұрын
tbh as a child, i only watched girl meets world because i thought sabrina carpenter gorgeous (i still think this lol). as an adult, i went back and watched boy meets world and oh my gosh. what a masterpiece. girl meets world couldn’t even compete
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 4 ай бұрын
Love the Jinx pfp. 💗
@anastasiabennett4854
@anastasiabennett4854 4 ай бұрын
Not at all, they completely ruined the legacy with girl meets world
@solong_abigail
@solong_abigail 4 ай бұрын
I think even Sabrina Carpenter hated it, she was told to list all the shows and movies she was in and she said she purposely forgot GMW 😭
@jadeshepherd8627
@jadeshepherd8627 18 күн бұрын
😭🤣 when, where??? I love her so much
@DistantCircusMusic
@DistantCircusMusic 4 ай бұрын
I really wouldn’t mind an episode about internalized/systematic ableism, since it sadly is a very realistic reaction. But the way the show doesn’t even try to act like the way they’re acting is wrong…
@camisafespace
@camisafespace 4 ай бұрын
Damn this really got me. I used to be in this friend group... Recently i had a friend say "bring cami from 2019 back", which was a period of intense masking and lots of thoughts about ending it all. I used to make messed up dark humor jokes just to fit in with them, which eventually caused me so much shame and led them to mock me and make me feel guilty for being sensitive and "soft" (now I know I struggle with hypersensitivity). Someone else in the friend group would also laugh at me by calling me "special" whenever we disagreed about something. This ain't even half of it but man am I glad I finally cut ties with them. It hurt but it's such a relief now
@jadeshepherd8627
@jadeshepherd8627 18 күн бұрын
The friend group really sounds like a friend group I was in -_- fucking jerks, hope you have better friends now
@esokalis
@esokalis 3 ай бұрын
giggling so hard at the way farkle is like "yeah they think im autistic" and the FEAR FROM EVERYONE WHEN THEY'RE LIKE "U DONT ‼️‼️ THIS ISNT REAL RIGHT ⁉️⁉️⁉️"
@jadeshepherd8627
@jadeshepherd8627 18 күн бұрын
The girls were like that meme where I think it's the character Punisher, he says "NO NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT!" 🤣😭 Those girls were acting like being autistic is the worst thing in the world
@wowsports8800
@wowsports8800 4 ай бұрын
I was the entire tome like "why are they being such bullies and acting like that's a sad thing??" About the diagnosis, this episode got me so pissed as a kid
@snoozersnail
@snoozersnail Жыл бұрын
I don't remember watching this show ever, so this is news to me on how this could possibly air. I have ASD diagnosed. I'm also pretty stereotypically autistic; meltdowns starting at the age of 2, watching spinning objects or flickering lights, hand and finger flapping, jumping around, poor eye contact, awkward movements and walking, you get the picture. However, there are plenty of people who aren't exactly "stereotypically autistic" ie, they mask frequently, they symptoms aren't displayed as bluntly, or they simply have less symptoms (for example, they have just 2 out of the 4 symptoms listed in the DSM-5). Which is completely okay, and very sad that they can't be represented often. I don't think that there's inherently a problem with having "stereotypical autistic" characters AS LONG as they are respected and represented properly with research put behind it. It seems the Smackle as a character is not the problem, but the problem is that she is being written for laughs, and to make fun of her social awkwardness. Had she simply been an autistic character, that's fine. As for Farkle, it's quite sad they wrote him off as "just being Farkle". He probably could've been a great autistic character. Disney appears to have a certain reputation with these things. Hopefully one day they won't be common.
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i 100% agree! you worded this perfectly
@snoozersnail
@snoozersnail Жыл бұрын
@@lulaloopsey Thank you so much. Good to know someone made a video on this. I was bullied and called derogatory names by peers and family my whole life for being autistic, and these shows 100% contributed to these behaviors. Sucks being called "autistic" as derogatory when that's simply just the condition I have. I'll be subscribing :)
@wasteland.baby.
@wasteland.baby. Жыл бұрын
he definitely is autistic. i would have gotten a second opinion if he was my son. disney was clearly just trying to avoid having to add farkle having autism. i’m sure making it a plot point in one episode was much more convenient,disney. congrats.
@hng966
@hng966 5 ай бұрын
It is also strangely realistic because a lot of people have been misdiagnosed as not having it because they didn’t do certain things. The doctor in his care might have been wrong too. This aired quite a while back so the awareness isn’t nearly as vast as it is now.
@izzysolo8962
@izzysolo8962 Жыл бұрын
I grew up on boy meets world and never rlly got into girl meets world, but holyyyy shit that’s horrendous 😭 the way they treated Farkle reminds me of how I got treated when trying to tell people I was autistic
@aminaa5824
@aminaa5824 4 ай бұрын
Smthn also weird is that Riley was also clearly autistic coded throughout the whole show too, except was written that way very accidentally so she doesn’t line up with all the stereotypes
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting observations! Let's also not overlook how Riley constantly told her bestie Maya that she didn't think and was a bad girl while telling everyone she herself was smart and a good girl. This would culminate in Riley sabotaging Maya's progressing by claiming Maya was copying HER when Maya was getting good grades and staying out of trouble (and no one called Riley on it). So no surprise that she (and annoyingly Maya) would treat the possible autism diagnosis as though Farkle had a doomed, forlorn existence if he got diagnosed with it! Oh, yeah, too bad that neither Cory nor the counselor attempted to tell Riley to butt out of Farkle's biz when the counselor approached him to talk to Farkle. And, yeah, Maya was not as likable in this episode as she usually was.
@BlackCherryLimonade
@BlackCherryLimonade 4 ай бұрын
18:22 this scene actually made me cry cause why is Farkle so sweet and amazing
@christinehurley2487
@christinehurley2487 3 ай бұрын
Gonna be real here, kinda wish someone had yelled at Riley about the hugs, it's crazy how much people talk about consent and then completely ignore that it goes for more than just sex and that women are just as guilty if not sometimes more guilty for thinking they can ignore someone's no
@whispypuffs4670
@whispypuffs4670 4 ай бұрын
I was a kid when i watched that episode and was undiagnosed autistic not knowing i was masking for my entire life, Maya saying Farkle will "stop doing that" when referring to his symptoms is like genuinely upsetting looking back after being professionally assessed and diagnosed because that's exactly what children who fly under the radar when it comes to diagnosing neurodivergence hear a lot of the time, it's seriously sad and i feel like the episode may have reinforced other undiagnosed people on the spectrum that their behaviour is abnormal and something that causes upset to their friends and family like it did to Farkle's friend group (which are all pretty much assholes in their own right)
@unicorn_teeth
@unicorn_teeth 6 ай бұрын
i never watched this show but i remember seeing clips of this episode years ago and was so bewildered. as a feminine creature with autism, seeing it be portrayed in this way is a sure fire way to instill this type of ableism in people, both internalized and externalized. the way his "friends" reacted to his diagnosis, the way they invalidated him repeatedly, and everything was so upsetting to see. plus the whole "i actually dont have it" is so baffling to me. i was fully prepared for "i dont have aspergers, i have autism" or SOMETHING but we got "nope im just weird teehee" like. that is surefire tism in that boy. i feel it. plus how they treat the girl (shmackle or whatever her name is) is frustrating too. i had to learn the lesson of respecting personal space and such at a young age and have it specifically laid out for me, so seeing them not respecting it specifically to her is so. STOP IT!!!!!!!!!! like thats rude af!!! she doesnt like hugs, dont force them on her!!!! its so simple ARRRGGGHHHH
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 6 ай бұрын
I agree! Riley's 'still have a problem with hugs' toward Smackle was uncalled for! It targeted Smackle as though she (and all those who dislike hugs) are supposed to be ungrateful freaks and prudes while shaming them for not eagerly being hugged by Riley [who the show endlessly tried to compel the audience to adore as a flawless saint]. This ignores the reality that folks who dislike hugs could be SA survivors, have neurodivergent issues and/or just dislike the intended huggers as people [which may be for good reason].And, oh yeah! Riley was VERY rude to virtually everyone not just this episode but the whole show!
@Funeral_Mannequin
@Funeral_Mannequin 4 ай бұрын
I mean, honestly, I think Maya's immediate denial of Farkle's diagnosis is pretty accurate in some cases. Like I know a lot of circumstances (I've been in a few myself actually) where the parents/family of a child newly diagnosed with autism immediately jumped to denying it because they were uneducated on what autism really was or immediately assumed it was totally negative. I think that part is kind of an accurate picture in some of these types of situations.
@SamSeth1996
@SamSeth1996 4 ай бұрын
To be fair when I was dignosed I was in denile too cuz it was a lot to take in. There was so much information about it and my mind kept on crashing cuz I had trouble understanding. When I was being tested I wasn’t feeling anything u k I was turning my emotions off due to having overloading sensory and too much information being dumped on me. It was hard but thankfully I had a strong support system which helped me a lot. And I did embrace this as I became older.
@marumaru2105
@marumaru2105 Жыл бұрын
I think he has it, he just said he didn’t because his “friends” were total weirdos about it
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
Farkle may or may not have autism but he needs to find new 'friends' FAST because he doesn't need enemies with the 'friends' he's got!
@TaKOart
@TaKOart Жыл бұрын
I don’t really remember this episode maybe I didn’t watch it? But many years later turns out I’m also autistic 😂 and it’s probably intentional but the fact that they name the clearly autistic characters the most… non human names?? Like even if it’s not addressed in the show the “comic relief character” usually has a lot of autistic traits and then always has such a weird… non name
@themostfrenchratchef
@themostfrenchratchef Жыл бұрын
this could’ve been so great if this show was competent. autism is so incredibly misunderstood
@anxiousmessbugg6467
@anxiousmessbugg6467 Жыл бұрын
As a person on the savant end of the autism scale who, i hate how they make it seem like a terminal illness. It took me years to convince my parents to get me tested and whenni git my official diagnosis my friends were si exicted because they knew how annoyed i get when i cant explain things even my own tendencies
@elliart7432
@elliart7432 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen this show in my life but the one autistic win is that Smackle (what is up with these names-?) holds her hands the same way I do
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 Жыл бұрын
6:12- It was most infuriating (instead of funny or cute) how Riley refused to respect Farkle's privacy via not only attempting to intrude in on his counseling session but not letting him consider what the counselor believed she needed to tell Farkle without Riley's butting it! Of course, not only did no one attempt to tell Riley to back off or butt out(or even to to scram) but it was treated as something the viewers were expected to adore! Riley TRULY needed someone to spell out that she needed to respect others' boundaries- especially those she kept claiming were her friends! Alas, show kept ramming down the viewers' throats that Riley was always a perfect sweet saint so how were the teen and tween viewers expected to understand that her behavior towards Farkle in this episode was NOT cool or even nice?
@DazaisCrustyHair
@DazaisCrustyHair 3 ай бұрын
I struggle significantly with human touch, with only letting two specific people touch me(some people aren't even comfortable with one person) so Riley hugging that one girl made me so upset because I would feel like throwing up in her her situation
@jadeshepherd8627
@jadeshepherd8627 18 күн бұрын
I only let my friends touch me that way. I remember in uni, my best friend at the time was chatting to a really extroverted dude who she only met a few minutes ago then, and he hugged her. I was so anxious, wondering if he would force a hug on me so I got all nervous. Thankfully he didn't try, he noticed I was anxious so he carefully asked me smth, idk what it was but I just said no and got out of there as fast as I could.
@realangelabaker88
@realangelabaker88 Жыл бұрын
this was so interesting! you should make this a series (talking about controversial girl meets world episodes because ik there’s more😭)
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
i love myself too much to do that to myself but i do plan to make some future videos on disney shows from this era probably andi mack for sure since it was suggested
@mmarceline3
@mmarceline3 3 ай бұрын
youtube kept pushing this video to me like straight up was on my feed every time i tried looking for videos so i’m finally watching 😂 you’re slay, this show not so slay!!!!
@RinneAvicula
@RinneAvicula 3 ай бұрын
The bit where he asks permission to give her a hug and the laugh track plays made me want to punch a concrete wall. One of my favorite memories is from the first time I attended a Social Support group for young adults with ASD, and at the end one of the other members asked if I “did hugs” and waited for me to say “yes” before hugging me goodbye. I was 19, recently diagnosed, still in the process of untangling my ingrained “masking” behaviors from my authentic self, and she gave me the opportunity to realize that, yes, I do, in fact, “do hugs”. And they made a joke out of it. Screw them.
@catbatrat1760
@catbatrat1760 3 ай бұрын
Same. :( Heck, even if someone isn't autistic, it never hurts to ask for consent. Come to think of it, most shows I've watched are pretty horrible about that in general, acting like it's okay to get all up in somebody's personal space to a ridiculous degree.
@stellamariss3335
@stellamariss3335 3 ай бұрын
There should’ve been an awww sound instead. Cause it was sweet
@pheonexia
@pheonexia 10 ай бұрын
I think the jokes about Smackle thinking Lucas was hitting on her were more just about his comments being really innocuous and interpreting them as flirty is kind of ridiculous. They play on this further when Maya tells him to “take a hint”, implying she also is interpreting his comments as flirty. I do think this type of joke is usually that the girl is ugly and just *wants* guys to be into her, but Smackle seems to genuinely want him to back off from the clips in the video, so it comes off a little differently to me.
@boxprophet
@boxprophet 3 ай бұрын
Watching the way they treat him, trying to aggressively deny he's autistic, telling him he's gonna stop doing those behaviors, is giving me war flashbacks to the way my parents treat me. I am autistic. They don't even Know That, and they still act exactly the same. Also the fact that the two autistic characters are named silly shit like "Rumple" or "Fleeby" is. Insane. Like they're cartoon characters compared to the rest of them.
@shau.naaaaa
@shau.naaaaa Жыл бұрын
came from ur tiktok just now
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
YAY! this is the first time one of my tik toks is actually helping promote this channel im so excited
@krispykreme6082
@krispykreme6082 Жыл бұрын
* I did 2
@-wukq-
@-wukq- Жыл бұрын
Same
@nanaisalwaysbored
@nanaisalwaysbored Жыл бұрын
same
@orisimi7595
@orisimi7595 Жыл бұрын
real
@kristen8052
@kristen8052 4 ай бұрын
This episode was the first place i remember learning what autism was and i had a really inaccurate idea of what it was until I was in high school and learned that I actually was autistic
@stephendexheimer7914
@stephendexheimer7914 Жыл бұрын
As a fan of Boy Meets World when Girl Meets World came out I was excited to see a continuation of that story through learning about the the world of Cory Matthews daughter but immediately I hated it as the humor felt so forced, I loved that Boy Meets World had episodes that tackled dark issues such as when Shawn joined a cult or when Topenga was being harassed by a professor but Girl Meets World did not tackle these issues and then when they did try we had episodes like this
@JourneyThroughTime
@JourneyThroughTime Жыл бұрын
Deserves so much more views. This is very well covered. I used to love this show as a kid, I never thought they'd do something like this.
@lulaloopsey
@lulaloopsey Жыл бұрын
thank you!
@Starlight-ue8jy
@Starlight-ue8jy 4 ай бұрын
“I have autism” “Nuh uh”
@lolithatkills9156
@lolithatkills9156 4 ай бұрын
Riley legit is the worst friend you could ever have
@Imjustshrimp
@Imjustshrimp 4 ай бұрын
As an afab person who wasn’t diagnosed with autism until I was an adult due to things like this. Not getting tested for not fitting autistic stereotypes. I was a smart child but got burnt out, I wasn’t obsessed with trains or random things but I was really obsessed with dogs. It’s frustrating how they’ll dismiss all his traits and then still be like “oop if he doesn’t have autism”. Feels like how growing up with undiagnosed autism feels
@ASoggyFrootLoop
@ASoggyFrootLoop 4 ай бұрын
10:46 honestly hilarious how absurd this response is, my reaction to my brother’s diagnosis was “yea that tracks”, because 1: it’s not a bad thing, just like me having ADHD isn’t a bad thing, and 2: it DOES track
@mayabutlikebetter2345
@mayabutlikebetter2345 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the dyslexia episode of shake it up. I remember being so angry as a kid at how they made it seem like something the characters were ashamed of. I was never ashamed of my dyslexia. This episode really made the whole thing a huge deal that I never felt like it was.
@juliesigtuna04
@juliesigtuna04 2 ай бұрын
Yea .. probably to you but all that has the same disabled don't mean we are all gonna be the same while with Bella made sense
@lilybolanos9301
@lilybolanos9301 Жыл бұрын
It felt like a drastic twist from farkle which might have it to the way they treated smackle who did almost like they refused to accept it until they knew someone had it then they were fine??? As if they were always cool with it when clearly they weren’t. I do think that they keep smackle in the loop and treat her fairly well for the remainder of her time there but idk the episode is weird. Plus Riley had so many traits that could be explained with her be autistic I’ve seen ppl bring up
@kenm.a.d.7196
@kenm.a.d.7196 Жыл бұрын
It really sucks that this was one of the first times Disney Channel featured Aspergers and this is how it went down
@captainhook4258
@captainhook4258 4 ай бұрын
i have this video open in a separate tab on my laptop while i play minecraft nd i heard farkle ask if he could hug her and i literally teared up and was so stoked (despite the entire episode being shit lmao i just got so excited abt the PRESUMED normailzation of asking permission to touch someone) and then the fucking laugh track ruined it so much ohhh my gods
@wardarcade7452
@wardarcade7452 4 ай бұрын
IMO, that show's laugh track is intrusive and annoying- and often pops up at the most inappropriate times (and has anyone met another human being who does machine-gun laughs at two second intervals).
@boywithhairlikethis
@boywithhairlikethis 3 ай бұрын
i love the part where he asks permission to hug her ☹️ i’m autistic and my boyfriend always asks before touching me, he’ll usually say can i kiss you and where and have me point or tell him no, he never acts offended or dismisses me. it’s important that disabled or not you respect your friends and others boundaries!!!!!!
@ook4698
@ook4698 4 ай бұрын
can we talk abt how the two autistic characters have stupid names??????? like what kind of name is farkle and smackle
@bell-collector5772
@bell-collector5772 3 ай бұрын
As a child I literally didn’t care about any messages in movies. I just watched it bc I liked the show. I never picked up on details like this in shows.
@Nuttmegg456
@Nuttmegg456 3 ай бұрын
My younger gen z sibling loves this show and I can’t stand it. Riley is irritating and childish, the way Farkle is treated is horrendous (by the show and the characters). The only one I enjoy is Maya, who should absolutely have been the main character. I’m just about as old as you can get and still be gen z so this wasn’t my intro to ASD and it irked me soooo much that they used Asperger’s as the “diagnosis”. It’s not even like they didn’t know - they had to have known that a) Asperger’s isn’t a thing anymore and b) Hans was a douche.
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