Joan Jett!

And PATTI SMITH too !

Then? Does it make her a great artist? Lest a singer? Have you seen the katest news who has been reaping awards here and there, i meant competetive awards (not the honorary stuff)... Who's almost done with the coveted EGOT... The songwriter award, the NY best selling books, quality relationships she had and have among other well respected icons and legends in the biz (miles davis, Prince... List goes on) and even relationships she built in her personal life (25 years and counting with her ONE and ONLY husband) oh my God and the list of effin QUALITY over COMMERCIAL success Cyndi has, is waaayy beyond the records and concert tickets sold by who?

peaches fires Amen!

Cyndi is not that good. You can't compare albums such as "Ray of Light" or "Like a Prayer" with ANY Cyndi's album.

AlDan 4ever I agree. I like Cyndi but none of her albums top Ray of Light or Like a Prayer. I listened to her True Colors album yesterday, it was not that good. Madonna got better & better in the 80s whereas as other people have pointed out, Cyndi's got worse. Madonna was more business savvy than Cyndi.

Boy Doll What about Cyndi's band Blue Angel, who had a record out in 1980?

Boy Doll true But Madonna didn't get her first BIG hit until Holiday which charted in 1983 around the same time Girls Just Wanna Have Fun was released

Charmedone9805 So are you agreeing then? Everybody wasn't a big hit, only on the Dance chart in the US in 1982. But was successful enough for an album to be green lit for her (she was on a two single deal only at the time). Girls Just Want To Have Fun came later, but Blue Angel although their album "went lead" as Cyndi has said, the band were well known in New York, where they gigged constantly. Madonna had probably heard of them before she was famous. So maybe Madonna became more widely famous before Cyndi, but Cyndi had been working in the music business longer, and already had some moderate success, before Madonna. Anyway, I like them both. I feel sorry for Cyndi that she's always been compared to Madonna. Madonna was a phenomonen really. It's not fair to compare her to anyone in terms of success. They are really totally different artists with different styles and approaches. Madonna wanted to be a huge star, Cyndi has said she couldn't handle that level of fame, and that it'd stump her creativity. That may be an excuse for apparent failure, but she wasn't really. Everyone's a failure compared to Madonna, even Madonna (eg. American Life was considered a failure even though it went to #1 in 14 countries, it was a failure for HER). Cyndi has had alot of ups and downs in her career and some bad luck and also suffered from lack of promotion from Sony. Madonna never had that problem! Warners promoted her to extreme levels! It comes down to the music in the end, not how well it charted. Less people "get" Cyndi I guess. Although I think she'd be the nicer person. Who knows? I've also heard she's rude to her employees. Madonna's quite happy to call hersled a bitch or "Queen" and is very competitive. She lacks humour though, something that can't be said of Cyndi. That gives her an edge, for me. She tells bad jokes, and knows they are! I don't think they've ever been great fans of one another, but i think there's some mutual respect there. Neither have either really spoken out against the other. The point is in a way Madonna came first to the masses with Holiday being a big hit. But Cyndi was actually around before Madonna and had an album with Blue Angel in 1980, so as a signed artist, she beats Madonna by two years! It depends on how you put it.

+Shane Smith i hope you don't find this rude or anything and if you do I'm sorry,cyndi has said ALOT of nice things about madonna and from what i have heard madonna was quite rude and nasty to her BUT then back in 2009 or 2008 she said that she would like to collab with her but never did? i don't know but i have respect for madonna but i think she's a total bitch for being mean to cyndi but if she didn't be mean to her then im sorry

+Shane Smith CYndi did come before madonna (In the late 70's) but wasn't that big of a hit until she was with the band blue angel which didn't get signed and im was so upset about it.she had and still has a voice even when she was younger which suprised me that she never got signed. so when her band didn't go anywhere her boyfriend dave signed her to his record label and suggested she became a solo artist which was in 1983 and it progressed so long so yeah i agree with you when you said that cyndi was around longer than madonna. now im not a fan of madonna ( please don't hate me) so i don't know what happened around that time because i wasn't there but all i know is that someone said that she was very nasty to cyndi and it wasn't right to me.

Yep. I grew up in nyc. I was a teenager in the 80s. Both their looks were from downtown/ greenwich village. When they both exploded on mtv they got credit for it but honestly I had seen girls already dressing that way

Madonna is Humanist??? Like what turned out in Malawi? Humanist in a sense that many colleagues in the industry do not respect her behind her back? Humanist that she sold high rocketing concert tickets and sing in lipsynch? The way people (even her crew) she worked with told numerous stories of her giving them the diva attitude that they feared of losing their jobs.... And all the hard facts real people in the biz and behind her huuuugeee success reveal. I don't get that humanist aporoach you were saying. Probably Carl Rogers reinvented Humanistic approach.

Did you find moore of this #EPIC interview?

Cyndi is a real performer, with a fantastic sound, a huge sound range / 4 octaves /. He is an extraordinary individual with a good sense of humor and really loves the audience.

"Change Of Heart", "True Colors", "Time After Time", "She Bop" I can name a lot of Cyndi's hits as a lot of people do and none of them are covers. And I can name a lot of Madonna's hits as well "Holiday", "Into The Groove", "La Isla Bonita" "Like A Prayer" etc. Both these women changed the face of 80's music. But I can't name a single Tori Amos song. Hell, she wasn't even in the picture in the 80's. Talk about comparing apples and oranges. Madonna & Cyndi Lauper's first albums may haven't been that great (all 1st albums have their flaws), but in their 2nd and 3rd albums there aren't any fillers in there, are you kidding ?! "True Colors" and "True Blue" are 100% hits and good songs, no fillers there. Neither in "Like A Virgin" or "A Night To Remember". Then things started to change, I must admit. They both kinda got a little bit lazy, and quality suffered a bit then in the early 90's but there aren't any fillers in their 1986-1989 albums. With "She's So Unusual" Cyndi Lauper sold 16 millions albums worldwide. With "True Blue" Madonna sold 25 millions albums. I never heard of Tori Amos ever reaching those numbers.

... your comment after 10 years is a total fail.. Lauper is a HUGE influence. More people know Cyndi Lauper than Tori Amos. FACT.