How To Increase Scores On Short Oil Patterns

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2 жыл бұрын

Brad and Kyle explain how to throw more strikes and improve scores on short oil Patterns.
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@TheDallenjr315 2 жыл бұрын

Uh ima need a drink for that 5 pin miss, lol. I had my finger up, lol. ☝🏾

@potatogangtv2588 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like someone I know that owes Mr Mo Money and a few bystanders a drink from league last night Lmao 🤣

@SweetPhil 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding that slightly offset camera angle when your throwing. In the past you did not do that and it is way better and easier to see whats going on. Very good change/addition. Great Channel.

@Inquire703 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Going through a slump and with a pattern in my league had me totally confused. These tips are most helpful and looking forward to trying them out. 👍🏾

@josephr5766 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Learned so much.

@ShateesahAlexander Жыл бұрын

I’m bowling in scratch league and we just started bowling on a 39ft pattern. I’m glad I watched this video because what I ended up doing to score was correct (move right and up the ditch). I used a hustle inc though but as you mentioned earlier I have a lower rev rate but bunch of speed so…. Keep up the great videos

@michealpatrick1739 Жыл бұрын

As usual, great video!!

@bradydegroot5197 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the B&K membership, and I've definitely improved. Well worth the money

@caftood 2 жыл бұрын

i needed this

@bobbyburtonphotography Жыл бұрын

This is great. Thanks for something different.

@scottythompson940 2 жыл бұрын

Cool video talk tech bowling brad and Kyle

@frankyq3481 2 жыл бұрын

Good work guys. Love the way you guys convey your knowledge.

@johnnyrotten66 2 жыл бұрын

Man you guys that is exactly what I have been struggling with the last few weeks and like you I thought I need to move left? Nope wouldn't hook, so moved back right was having some success going Brooklyn but that's not what we want right? So I have the new Motiv Venom Blue Coral 15.2pds I went from my usual 13.5 mph to 15-15.5 mph and came up the back more, quite a bit, and oh man talk about f-rollout! You can just see that thing building energy and it get down there and makes that little turn gradually and just hit and goes right out the back between the eight and nine thing of beauty! So yeah I've been watching you guys for a while and You're Dead on on that analysis I recommend it to everybody on the short pattern and I'm just a rookie but I'm getting better everyday took third place in my 4th of July tournament say what? Saddleback Lanes mission Viejo California!

@weekendhacker9171 2 жыл бұрын

Bowled a sweeper on cheetah a few weeks ago. Shot 465 and needed 211 last game just to get that much. So tough especially when all I had at the time was a Zen and a Helios. I now understand why you guys throw mainly straight at all spares too. These short flat patterns are freaking tough.

@tonyguerrier2258 Жыл бұрын

Bowling in my first sport tourney in two weeks. I'm a tweener and unfortunately have nowhere to practice on a short pattern but this video really helped.

@nickziolkowski9757 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully this helps when I go next time, my bowling alley is a standard house pattern but it's soooo dry

@idkzkokk 2 жыл бұрын

yoooo new vid yea!!!!!!

@Onesongperweek 2 жыл бұрын

Question: why don't you use a reactive ball with a short pin layout? If you use urethane in a short pattern, what grit do you use on your Pitch Black. SUBSCRIBED.

@CKBowling1 2 жыл бұрын

I use short pin on a couple asym balls. Mo Pinel used to say they acted like a urethane ball without destroying the lane.

@njcolletti 2 жыл бұрын

@Brad and Kyle I am a bit new to throwing urethane. Would you recommend surface changes in practice to help in cases like the one you ran into in this video?

@lucasr648 2 жыл бұрын

Can you guys make a video talking about rg’s and differentials?

@andygs84 2 жыл бұрын

What's the best approach to achieve high accuracy in spares for 2 hander?

@brewzor4059 2 жыл бұрын

Us old guys love the short oil!!!

@ifyoudidntknownowyoudo6326 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video talking about forward and reverse oil pattern. For example. 41ft forward 38ft reverse

@waynea.baxter9354 Ай бұрын

hi went around it on the 2nd shot

@rickymastne5281 Жыл бұрын

Ok please show us how to use ur eye method frm the arrows to ur target area. Frm release to ur target n to the strike zone..how to use ur eyes as to what to look for down lane.. just like the golfers???

@kymani062497 2 жыл бұрын

Great little nugget at 3:30

@evgrin1507 2 жыл бұрын

Brad definitely drives around blaring this into song

@ElvisElgarEllis 2 жыл бұрын

"I mean we're on camera. Gotta throw something" 😂

@11josiahf Жыл бұрын

More like “god damn i need a strike now “

@autodoson1 Жыл бұрын

Short pattern. OK Cool. What Reactive Resin Balls do you recommend?

@gianpaoloiaccarino1781 2 жыл бұрын

Hi guys. I have seen in a lot of tournament All lefty player throw urethanic ball on every pattern. Do you think si really possibile for lefty to use only urethanic arsenal? Two purple hammer or pitch black with differenti layout maybe and a stronger one like UC3 or Pink Widow urethane ?

@skategeezer1810 2 жыл бұрын

Plastic is great on short patterns

@robertpetersen9450 2 жыл бұрын

How about an explination of how to line up for that "6 to 3" shot?

@rluszik Жыл бұрын

are you using an Asym urethane or Symmetrical?

@mersaki_rl Жыл бұрын

10:09😂😂

@jerryalexander8803 Жыл бұрын

So much great information, just a little too late for me because I bowled on short last night and was totally lost 😂, wish I would've watched this before I bowled

@boriskipnis7969 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. I bowled on a bone-dry lane last weekend, struggled with over-hooking the ball, had my best games just throwing a spare ball 😂 would this be a viable strategy for short oil patterns?

@Andy-qt1vf 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve done this at a couple tournaments that were short oil because everything just hooked at my feet and I don’t have a good loft game

@mason3615 2 жыл бұрын

Theres been PBA tournaments where they resort to plastic theres a compilation on youtube of that

@chriswebbtech 2 жыл бұрын

Not usually, because dry house lanes etc. are dry from the foul line to the break point. This pattern is short yes, but it has a lot of oil from the line flat across the lane so you can stand right and get it down to the breakpoint. So it all depends reading front to back when the ball hooks / rolls out. cause it it moves way early, then you're only option is way left and extreme angles and or loft. or both.

@jbethurum9185 2 жыл бұрын

Do a 35 flat pattern

@randyzeitman1354 Жыл бұрын

What's the reason to not play across like going for a ten pin?

@stevegrams376 Жыл бұрын

Hey my friend I just wanted to know how I can get more

@Jason_P 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent content guys. One thing I would have changed would be for you to throw the urethane ball a few times before you use it as an example. Urethane balls need 3-4 shots (at least) to get some oil on them before they provide a consistent reaction. Urethane needs to calm down, and until that happens you cannot use it to make adjustments. Otherwise you will be making adjustments based on inaccurate ball reaction.

@remoevans7847 2 жыл бұрын

Initially that is true as in new urethane ball or after surface change.

@nvmcogames 3 ай бұрын

They did it perfect. If they didn’t show that other people might not know that and change balls again. The point of these videos is to show mistakes and learn how to adjust and understand why it’s doing that.

@oranshea5516 2 жыл бұрын

Any suggestion for lanes that are totally dry? I bowl on a military base that doesn’t see much action, but only gets oiled once in three weeks. They use the bourbon street pattern everytime. I’m throwing a Storm Tropical Surge and a Phase 2. Thanks guys.

@steve4880 2 жыл бұрын

Plastic then if its totally dry.

@MotionSkater 11 ай бұрын

Wish I watched this before I bowled my sweeps, they caught me by surprise laying down 34 feet

@george.9878 2 жыл бұрын

Can y’all guys make a video on how to adjust when you’re hitting the pocket but leaving a lot of 10 pins?

@joshualee3218 2 жыл бұрын

either move right, slow ur ball speed, or move ur feet up a bit

@popanda3652 2 жыл бұрын

Its some kind of feeling THROW THE HUSTLE... boogie woogie woogie

@sportsfntc 2 жыл бұрын

What about a shined up urethane?

@carlmunkwitz4689 2 жыл бұрын

Advice from the 2022 Cheetah Champion ...? Listen and learn (Congrats Kyle)

@douglasbuck8986 2 жыл бұрын

Mid -Range reactive with a high number (4000) works well too.........

@xyzbuge Жыл бұрын

The tournament I play they do t tell you the pattern. Is this topical or do bigger tournaments tell you what you are bowling on?

@CoopNation Жыл бұрын

Just picked up the Idol Helios and I can’t control it on a short pattern. I bowl with two fingers only. Any advise?

@jerryalexander8803 Жыл бұрын

Helios is probably too strong for short, especially if you only bowl with 2 fingers and no thumb, you might wanna invest in a purple hammer if you don't already have one

@CFRGaming_Ociy16 2 жыл бұрын

If a short pattern is considered 30-40, what would a 27 foot pattern be considered? I will have to bowl on one for tryouts😳

@tylerkeeton199 2 жыл бұрын

That’s called impossible lol

@IAmTheEggMan111 2 жыл бұрын

Find an old ball. Like something from the late 1990’s

@CFRGaming_Ociy16 2 жыл бұрын

@@IAmTheEggMan111 cool, didn’t think about that

@theb2694 2 жыл бұрын

@@CFRGaming_Ociy16 Actually, I would try to look for a urethane in the pre-resin era. Urethane covers were harder back then.

@CFRGaming_Ociy16 2 жыл бұрын

@@theb2694 Oke!

@MrKnothead63 2 жыл бұрын

why do I leave a lot of 7 pin on good flush pocket hits?

@AyoMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Entry angle is too extreme, either being too light or too heavy. Try more forward roll on the ball.

@popanda3652 2 жыл бұрын

Them struggling to get in the pocket right here reminded me of toms 100 game

@jabawockee199 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a 2 fingered bowler. No thumb. Can’t do it, lol. So naturally I have a ton of rev when I throw. Had a shorter or drier pattern last weekend. Took a shot in the dark and just used my middle finger to reduce rev. Carried pretty darn nice. The little adjustments make a big difference sometimes.

@WombzyR6 2 жыл бұрын

same here man, it's definitely a struggle getting probably near 510 revs and playing on short. and somehow I've never thought of taking my ring finger out to reduce my revs 🤷🏻‍♂️👀

@jabawockee199 2 жыл бұрын

@@WombzyR6 I bowl with my parents for fun, but I’m competitive. My mom kicks ass so much, lol. She’s 67. She can run a 500 series no problem. I had a 169 average in leagues, she had a 123. Now she kicks my butt, lol. It was a trial. Who knows come next week. I’m friends with the owner, but oil on a Saturday morning is sketchy at best. Worth a try though!

@WombzyR6 2 жыл бұрын

@@jabawockee199 yeah man I'm kinda in the same boat, my dad's also 65 and still bowls fairly often 240+ games and we dont bowl leagues just yet but his average is usually around 190 - 210 lately 👌🏼 mine is also around 170 or so like you so can definitely relate 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@WombzyR6 2 жыл бұрын

@@jabawockee199 also I used to go on a sunday where they haven't been oiled in over 4 days so they're BURNT up, but nowadays I just go on the day the oil em so I don't have to worry about that anymore lol

@jabawockee199 2 жыл бұрын

@@WombzyR6 my dad’s lost a lot of his “swagger.” He’s at a point where he doesn’t wanna bowl anymore. He’s also the “get off my lawn” type. He won’t listen to me or mom. Stubborn ass, lol. He’s like “I know what I’m doing wrong!” I reply with “ya? Than fix it and quit bitching!” 🤣

@SkateClipsAndTips 2 жыл бұрын

So what injury does Kyle have? Sad you dropped out of the PBA League

@jamessetiawan8131 2 жыл бұрын

I believed he sustained a back injury

@SkateClipsAndTips 2 жыл бұрын

Ouch, I was surprised Maldanado was still bowling with his back pain. It isn't fun, hope Kyle recovers fast

@Kristor333 2 жыл бұрын

Damn, I could have used this video to start my scratch summer league. We started with a 32 foot pattern and we move up every 4 weeks. Right now we are on scorpion and I’m doing a lot better!

@chinanumberone7723 2 жыл бұрын

Who?

@dylancha3030 2 жыл бұрын

Would lofting on cheetah br a viable option

@chriswebbtech 2 жыл бұрын

not really. The only reason lofting would work is due to the speed it takes to loft. So the loft isn't exactly would be helping more than the speed. THe loft etc. really only comes into play once a ton of urethane and traffic go down the lane through a block and you have some hold in the middle that you can loft over dried out fronts to get too.

@dylancha3030 2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswebbtech got it thank you

@kylelamson9993 2 жыл бұрын

How can I help my son who is 13 years old he dose not have a lot of ball speed but a lot of revs he is a 3 handed blower

@Leonardodo 2 жыл бұрын

Bella love Castillo Could be a style he could try to 'replicate' Imho

@GracieGarage Жыл бұрын

I wonder how a yellow dot would work?

@egibs3565 2 жыл бұрын

Del Ballard 34' has been kicking my 🤬 and playing the gutter is NOT an option

@brzdy8834 2 жыл бұрын

Bowling on viper here in a month what tips would y’all give?? For me 10 to the left side flies to much what y’all think? I need most help during transition bc the oil patter is so thick and transition can get really nasty

@kstark321 Жыл бұрын

Lol I had to come to this video because I'm getting my ass kicked in this same house on this pattern....and doing the exact same thing Brad is 😂 (which when the lanes dry out enough for my Hustles I'm good to go)

@Monk-Amani. 2 жыл бұрын

Can't be afraid of the Channel. Gotta get it out on the Cheetah. Spin, kill, roll or increase speed. Gotta play outside.

@CeCrez 2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t played on a sport shot before, can someone who has experience with short patterns tell me why pro players use urethane on short patterns instead of a weaker reactive resin ball like a storm twist?

@tylerkeeton199 2 жыл бұрын

The weaker reactive aren’t going to roll out or hook stop which is what you need. Urethane will burn all its energy in the front part of the lane so on the backend the ball will not hook making the short patterns easier to play. Using the weak reactive save it’s energy till the backend meaning that the ball will look good on the front part of the lane but as soon as it sees the friction it’s going to take a hard left, sometimes even hooking more than a strong bowling ball. Strong asyms are thrown on short patterns because like urethane they burn all of their energy during the front part of the lane giving you a hook stop motion which will be the most controllable

@theb2694 2 жыл бұрын

Urethane blends the lane front to back better than reactive does. Reactives (especially the weaker ones) are too senitive to the oil and dry which makes your ball motion very twitchy and unpredictable. Short oil with carrydown is a nightmare for a weaker reactive. Urethane reads the lane much earlier which is fitting especially if you like to play up the rail because if you miss a little out, you can get your ball to pick up early enough to not slide in the channel. Urethane is also more gradual in its motion than reactive at the end of the pattern. Reactive can sometimes give you that skate in the oil and "stand up" hard on the friction motion. This would force you to open up your angles but your miss area would be very small and carry might suffer too. If you do decide to throw reactive, put some surface on it.

@JoeyBagODonuts18 2 жыл бұрын

Kyle: Wins Cheetah Championship Also Kyle: Doesn't bowl on Cheetah when explaining how to bowl on short patterns

@chucksims6332 2 жыл бұрын

depending on what day they filmed this injury could be why. Kyle withdrew from PBA league for that reason. Hope whatever the issue is he gets 100% fast because he and the bald eagle have some tournaments soon to rock! love the content

@hersheyskwertz9315 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder how a burner solid would look on this pattern. Edit: and as soon as I comment you start talking about that hustle 😂

@MPJ22 2 жыл бұрын

Wait what happened with Kyle? I heard he got injured

@pineapplehouseonline2750 2 жыл бұрын

Kyle, what happened??? Can't find info anywhere...

@MuahMan Жыл бұрын

For a low rev rate guy like me, short pattern, move left 5 boards.

@VIN-7567 2 жыл бұрын

Why would we not play further left when it’s a shorter pattern? I’m not getting that concept.

@BradandKyleBowl 2 жыл бұрын

It seems very counter intuitive, but on shorter patterns you will predominantly see players play outside. When trying to move left, the ball wants to hook earlier and earlier. So, you play close to the gutter to get your ball to go down the lane longer and not overhook!

@garymoore7196 2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping to see the rap thrown 😪. Steupsssss

@GraysonandJoey 2 жыл бұрын

I wanted to see the shot with the hustle lmao…

@douglasbuck8986 2 жыл бұрын

SOMETIMES a speed increase creates more revs and cancels out the speed increase ............. so DON'T GRAB IT at the bottom.

@cbrdealer 2 жыл бұрын

First

@2bagel_882 2 жыл бұрын

As a guy with a rev rate of 580+, I love short patterns for how challenging they are and how well I can anger others with my urethane. The problem comes when I NEED to throw plastic.

@spudcoconut 2 жыл бұрын

tuff mr. urethane

@egibs3565 2 жыл бұрын

Your rev rate is higher then Belmo and EJ Tackett 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Bull 🤬

@lborate3543 2 жыл бұрын

Cheetah = pick your spares

@mattmiller4132 Жыл бұрын

Trust is a must or your game is a bust

@leemartin9022 Жыл бұрын

Funny as a reflection to your excitement about everyone turning to urethane to beat the sport patterns. Seems PBA made the right decision on banning such equipment.