Did you know that we will be covering the topic of Mantiq and Ilm Al Kalam in detail as part of the Student of Knowledge Program. For more details visit www.amauacademy.com

USTADH, I love you for the sake of ALLAH ALMIGHTY. May ALLAH ALMIGHTY grant you JANNAH

00:00 Opening & Introduction 05:15 Beginning of the dars 05:26 Definition/s of Ilmul-Kalam 09:40 Commonalities between the definitions 14:09 Differences between the definitions 20:31 Why was it called Ilmul-Kalam? 29:03 Ibn Taymiyyah's take on Ilmul-Kalam & Rational Arguments 32:50 What is rebuked? 34:18 Why did the Salaf rebuke Ilmul-Kalam? 35:25 Historical Analysis of Ilmul-Kalam 36:16 During the time of Rasool ﷺ & the Sahaba رضي الله عنهم 43:32 The dawn of innovations 46:04 How did kalam grow and spread? 54:07 How the kalam affected their methodology & Aqeedah 01:14:58 How the Salaf spoke against Ilmul-Kalam 01:26:18 Bidah is present in the statements of ahlul-kalam (Consensus of the Salaf) 01:29:56 The Maliki view on kalam (Imam Malik) 01:35:13 The Hanafi view on kalam (Imam Abu Hanifa) 01:37:40 The amount of books written against kalam 01:39:55 Imam Malik's strong condemnation & how it applies to other than the Mu'tazilah 01:42:58 Imam Shafii's & Shafi'i view on kalam 01:46:53 Imam Ahmad's & Imam Abu Yusuf's views 01:47:56 The Salafis aren't the first ones to warn against kalam 01:51:17 Salaf used Ilmul-Kalam to defend Deen? 01:57:12 Qur'aan has strong logical arguments 01:58:19 Salaf did not kalam to defend Deen 01:58:59 Do not conflate between rational arguments and Ilmul-Kalam 02:00:08 Where rational arguments are not allowed 02:03:11 Ilmul-Kalam is an innovation & despised (Imam Daraqutni's statement) 02:09:00 Why do mutakallimeen differ in Usool if Ilmul-Kalam is right? 02:11:29 Ilmul-Kalam brings shakk (doubts) & goes against manhaj of Qur'aan & the Salaf 02:15:20 The mutakallimeen 'ulamaa [Imam Ghazzali] who recognized their wrong 02:16:57 Did Iman Shafi'i refute only the kalam of Mutazilah? 02:29:33 They use text to confuse the people [Imam Isma'eel al-Harawi's book] 02:33:09 Asha'irah & Maturidiyya are worser than Mutazilah & Jahmiyyah [Imam Sijzi] 02:35:41 Traits of Ahlul-kalam 02:37:29 Contradictions among them is great & well-known 02:40:28 The contradictions among the Asha'irah [7 Sifaat, affirming Ru'yah & Allah's Aboveness, Aql>Naql, they don't accept ahad hadith] 02:50:16 Excessive argumentation & following ambiguous matters 02:53:16 Veneration of 'aql 02:56:46 Disrespect of Shar'i texts 02:58:25 They are filled with doubts and confusion 03:02:29 Repentance of some Imams from Ilmul-Kalam 03:21:42 Ignorance of Sunnah & Hadith 03:24:18 Their disunity is massive another brother in the comments made this just posted it again so i can see it right away when i watch this video.

AMAU are so impressive with their Islamic content, always so pertinent and practical. May Allah SWT bless the team for their consistent work that is so beneficial to us. Ilm al-Kalam is philhellenism, a deep love & yearning for the Ancient Greek. Why are we besotted with a period of Jahiliya where fahisha like pederasty was the norm, a society that had deities for every mood and thought. The West is built on Ancient Greek and we as Muslims diametrically oppose their foundations, therefore by extension we oppose Ancient Greece. Many don't know but the true destruction of Baghdad happened not when the Siege of the Mongols but by the decadence from the movement of translating Kalam from Greek to Arabic. This movement and the Muslims love for Kalam is what lead to them making true beneficial knowledge, stemming from Qur'an & Sunnah upon the understanding of the Salaf, come secondary, and whenever 'Ilm is put second a society will inevitably fail, especially when it is put second to Kalam. We have our Sirah, that is the golden age of humanity, we understand that there is no contradiction between the 'Aql and the Naql, so Alhamdullilah.

I watched the whole video in one sitting. I really enjoyed,benefited and entertained a lot. May Allah bless you and the whole amua team.

May Allah ﷻ reward AMAU for their efforts. Ameen!

تعريف علم الكلام وسبب تسميته ونشأته : 1. التعريف: ✒ تعريف الإيجي: الكلام علم يقتدر معه على إثبات العقائد الدينية بإيراد الحجج ودفع الشبه. ✒تعريف التفتازاني: العلم بالقواعد الشرعية الاعتقادية المكتسبة من أدلتها اليقينية. ✒ تعريف الجرجاني: علم يبحث فيه عن ذات الله تعالى وصفاته وأحوال الممكنات من البدء والمعاد على قانون الإسلام، قال: والقيد الأخير-على قانون الإسلام-؛ لإخراج العلم الإلهي للفلسفة. ⭕تعريف آخر للجرجاني: الكلام علم باحث عن أمور يُعلم منها المعاد وما يتعلق به، من الجنة، والنار، والثواب، والعقاب... ⭕تعريف آخر للجرجاني: وقيل: الكلام هو العلم بالقواعد الشرعية الاعتقادية المكتسبة عن الأدلة. [وهذا التعريف هو تعريف التفتازني نقله الجرجاني هاهنا]. ✒تعريف التَّهَانَوي: هو علم يقتدر معه على إثبت العقائد الدينية على الغير بإيراد الحجج ودفع الشبه. [ويشبه أو يماثل تعريف الإيجي]. ✒تعريف ابن خلدون: علم يتضمن الحِجاج عن العقائد الإيمانية بالأدلة العقلية والرد على المبتدعة المنحرفين في الاعتقادات عن مذاهب السلف وأهل السنة. |_-_-_-_-_-_-_-| مشتركات التعاريف: ✒أولا: الكلام علم موضوعه العقيدة، كالإيمان بالله والرسل، فليس له متعلق فقهي ونحو ذلك. ✒ثانيا: الكلام علم لإثبات العقيدة بطريقة مخصوصة عن طريق الأدلة العقلية (المنطقية). [أقول أنا المعلق: المنطق هنا لا يُقصد به الفطرة أو الأمور البديهية بل المقصود شيء آخر. والعقل لا يقصد به العقل المعروف، إنما يقصد العقل المشخصن، المبني على منهج معين]. فالمتكلمون لا يعتمدون على نصوص الكتاب والسنة، أو على طريقة الكشف الصوفية. ✒ثالثا: علم الكلام فيه جدل ومناظرات وخصومات. |_-_-_-_-_-_-_-| الاختلافات بين التعاريف: اختلاف تعريف ابن خلدون عن الآخرين: تعريف ابن خلدون قاصر على إثبات العقائد ورد الشبه عن مذهب السلف وأهل السنة. [ويقصد ابن خلدون بأهل السنة: الأشاعرة ومن نحا نحوهم]، [أقول أنا المعلق: الأشاعرة ليسوا أهل سنة بل هم أهل بدعة، وقد خالفوا السلف الصالح كثيرًا. وقال الشيخ عبدالرحمن حسن: الأشاعرة خرجوا من رحم المعتزلة]. إذن تعريف ابن خلدون خطأ؛ لأن علم الكلام يشترك فيه المعتزلة والأشاعرة ومن شابههم من المبتدعة، وليس الأشاعرة فقط. ********************************** 2. سبب تسمية علم الكلام بهذا الاسم: ذكر التفتازاني في شرح العقائد النسفية عدة أسباب وانتخب الشيخ عبدالرحمن 10: ✒ لأن عنوان مباحثه كان قولهم: الكلام في كذا وكذا. ✒ لأن مسألة الكلام كانت أشهر مباحثه. [يقصد مسألة كلام الله، والذي لا شك فيه ونقطع بصحته أن القران كلام الله غير مخلوق، منه بدأ وإليه يعود. ورفض ابن تيمية أن يكون هذا هو السبب لتسمية علم الكلام، في مناظرته في الواسطية (مجموع الفتاوى مجلد 3/ صفحة 184)]. ✒ لأنه يورث قدرة على الكلام في تحقيق الشرعيات وإلزام الخصم، وقالوا أن علاقة الكلام بالشريعة يشبه علاقة المنطق بالفلسفة، لذلك سُمي علم الكلام. ✒ لأنه أول ما يجب من العلوم التي تُعلَّم وتُتَعلم من الكلام. ✒ لأنه إنما يتحقق بالمباحثة وإدارة الكلام من الجانبين. ✒ لأنه أكثر العلوم خلافا ونزاعا، فيشتد افتقاره إلى الكلام مع المخالفين والرد عليهم. ✒ لقوة أدلته صار كأنه هو الكلام دون ما عداه من العلوم، كما يقال للأقوى من الكلامين: هذا هو الكلام. [بالمثال يتضح المقال: تخيل لو أن رجلان اختصما عند قوم، فقال الأول هذا حرام، وقال الثاني بل حلال، ثم قال الثاني والدليل كذا وكذا، فتبين أنه المصيب؛ عندئذ يقول القوم هذا هو الكلام. بمعنى: هذا هو الصواب.] ✒ لابتنائه على الأدلة القطعية المؤيدة أكثرها بالأدلة السمعية، ولأنه أشد العلوم تأثيرا في القلب وتغلغلا فيه؛ فسمي بالكلام المشتق من الكلم وهو الجرح. ✒ لأن المتكلمين كانوا يتكلمون حيث ينبغي الصمت، اقتداءً بالصحابة والتابعين الذين سكتوا في هذه المواضع. فأصبح الكلام هنا ضد السكوت. ✒ لأن المتكلمين قوم يتكلمون في أمور ليس تحتها عمل. فأصبح الكلام هنا ضد الفعل. وأقرب هذه العشرة: الخامسة والسادسة والتاسعة والعاشرة. ************************************* 3. نشأة علم الكلام: بدأ علم الكلام عندما تُعمق في آيات المتشابه، [قد يقول قائل: حصل هذا في عهد الرسول عندما تكلم الناس في القدر، نقول: نعم، وسد الرسول الذريعة وغضب غضبا شديدا، وكذا فعل عمر بن الخطاب في الذي خاض في المتشابه، فلا تعتبر هذه هي البداية، وإنما نقصد البداية عندما فُتح باب التنطع على مصراعيه]، وعندما دخلت العجمة على المسلمين، مع بداية بدعة الجعد بن درهم وبدعة الجهم ومع توسع بدعة القدرية، ثم نُشرت بدعة المعتزلة بقوة؛ فكان المعتزلة هم من نصر وأسس لعلم الكلام، وأقحموا العقل في ما لا يُقحم به، فتركوا الكتاب والسنة وخدموا الكلام بنهم، ثم بعد هذه الخيانة للكتاب والسنة جاؤوا وأرادوا ليَّ أعناق النصوص وفقًا لجهلياتهم. ************************************* ما الذي أثّر على منهجهم في دراسة العقيدة؟ 1. الالتقاء بأصحاب الديانات الأخرى، ودخول الزنادقة في الإسلام؛ ليهدموه من الداخل. وطاهر حسين مثال معاصر، ورد عليه الشيخ محمود شاكر جزاه الله خيرا. 2. حركة الترجمة، حيث تُرجمت كتب فلاسفة اليونان. والترجمة ليست مذمومة من حيث هي ترجمة. 3. الجهل بالكتاب والسنة والبعد عنهما. قال ابن تيمية: "من المعلوم أن المعظمين للفلسفة والكلام المعتقدين لمضمونها أبعد الناس عن معرفة الحديث، وأبعد عن اتِّباعه من هؤلاء. هذا أمرٌ محسوس، بل إذا كشفت أحوالهم وجدتهم من أجهل الناس بأقواله ﷺ وأحواله وبواطن أموره وظواهرها، حتى تجد كثيراً من العامة أعلم بذلك منهم. وتجدهم لا يميزون بين ما قاله الرسول ﷺ وما لم يقله ﷺ، بل قد لا يفرقون بين حديث متواتر عنه، وحديث مكذوب موضوع عليه، وإنما يعتمدون في موافقته على ما يوافق قولهم، سواء كان موضوعاً أو غير موضوع.. حتى تجد في أئمة علماء هؤلاء من لا يميز بين القرآن وغيره.." (الانتصار لأهل الأثر 141-143). 4. ضعف الإيمان واتباع الهوى. وذكر الشيخ كتاب تأويل مختلف الحديث لابن قتيبة رحمه الله، مرشدًا لقراءة قصص الأفاكين الكذابين الذين ذكروا في الكتاب. ********************************** Stopped at 1:14:58 Trying to continue Insha'allah

DETAILED TIMESTAMPS Asalamu Alaykum, I started making these before AMAU posted their timestamps, and I found that mine were a bit more detailed and this can help if anybody needed quick references on specific topics. Hope you find it beneficial In Sha Allah 00:00 Opening & Introduction 05:15 Beginning of the dars 05:26 Definition/s of Ilmul-Kalam 09:40 Commonalities between the definitions 14:09 Differences between the definitions 20:31 Why was it called Ilmul-Kalam? 29:03 Ibn Taymiyyah's take on Ilmul-Kalam & Rational Arguments 32:50 What is rebuked? 34:18 Why did the Salaf rebuke Ilmul-Kalam? 35:25 Historical Analysis of Ilmul-Kalam 36:16 During the time of Rasool ﷺ & the Sahaba رضي الله عنهم 43:32 The dawn of innovations 46:04 How did kalam grow and spread? 54:07 How the kalam affected their methodology & Aqeedah 01:14:58 How the Salaf spoke against Ilmul-Kalam 01:26:18 Bidah is present in the statements of ahlul-kalam (Consensus of the Salaf) 01:29:56 The Maliki view on kalam (Imam Malik) 01:35:13 The Hanafi view on kalam (Imam Abu Hanifa) 01:37:40 The amount of books written against kalam 01:39:55 Imam Malik's strong condemnation & how it applies to other than the Mu'tazilah 01:42:58 Imam Shafii's & Shafi'i view on kalam 01:46:53 Imam Ahmad's & Imam Abu Yusuf's views 01:47:56 The Salafis aren't the first ones to warn against kalam 01:51:17 Salaf used Ilmul-Kalam to defend Deen? 01:57:12 Qur'aan has strong logical arguments 01:58:19 Salaf did not kalam to defend Deen 01:58:59 Do not conflate between rational arguments and Ilmul-Kalam 02:00:08 Where rational arguments are not allowed 02:03:11 Ilmul-Kalam is an innovation & despised (Imam Daraqutni's statement) 02:09:00 Why do mutakallimeen differ in Usool if Ilmul-Kalam is right? 02:11:29 Ilmul-Kalam brings shakk (doubts) & goes against manhaj of Qur'aan & the Salaf 02:15:20 The mutakallimeen 'ulamaa [Imam Ghazzali] who recognized their wrong 02:16:57 Did Iman Shafi'i refute only the kalam of Mutazilah? 02:29:33 They use text to confuse the people [Imam Isma'eel al-Harawi's book] 02:33:09 Asha'irah & Maturidiyya are worser than Mutazilah & Jahmiyyah [Imam Sijzi] 02:35:41 Traits of Ahlul-kalam 02:37:29 Contradictions among them is great & well-known 02:40:28 The contradictions among the Asha'irah [7 Sifaat, affirming Ru'yah & Allah's Aboveness, Aql>Naql, they don't accept ahad hadith] 02:50:16 Excessive argumentation & following ambiguous matters 02:53:16 Veneration of 'aql 02:56:46 Disrespect of Shar'i texts 02:58:25 They are filled with doubts and confusion 03:02:29 Repentance of some Imams from Ilmul-Kalam 03:21:42 Ignorance of Sunnah & Hadith 03:24:18 Their disunity is massive

نفع الله بك وبعلمك وزادك علما وعملا وإيمانا وصعودا ورفع قدرك في الدنيا ورزقك من فيض نعيمه في الآخرة ❤❤❤❤

I have enjoyed watching the whole video but i have realized that the ustaad may Allah preserve him got a bit tired towards the end. May Allah bless you with good health,long life and the worship of Allah almighty.

Mashallah may Allah bless you! I always wanted something like this!

Should be an amazing watch, will watch for the next 2-3 days insha allah

Jazakumullahu khairan, wa barakAllahu feekum!

May Allah accept your deeds and reward you according to the best good that you did

Jazakumullahu khairan Ustadz.

نفع الله بك وبعلمك وزادك علما وعملا وصعودا

Alahuma barik so much information in one relatively short video that it could actually fill books.

يا اخي الفاضل، خدمتك باللغة الإنجليزية في هذا الموضوع، و غيره، عظيمة جدا نشكركم. أسأل الله أن يجعلها من حسناتك يوم القيامه. اللهم آمين

والله اني لأرجوا أن تكون من العلماء ولو أن العلماء الكبار سمعوا كلامك لارتفع مقامك عندهم

Jazaakallahu Khayraa, may ALLAH increase you in knowledge. I hope during this series Ustaaz will bring the tawba that their leadership made so it can also be known insha'Allah.

Jazakum Allahu khairan.

Baraka allahu feekum. I feel like this topic was very much needed given the push and attraction that so called duaat&their ignorant followers especially in the UK display and also the sects that base their deen on ilmul kalaam.

This is what i have been waiting ❤❤❤❤❤❤

jazakAllah u khair Ustaadh!

Ma sha allah Need more of these academic lectures

Excellent, Allahumma barik

This is very much needed in today's dawah. Jazakumu allahu kheyraa.

جزاك الله خيرًا على المحتوى المثري والله يهدينا ويهدي الجميع

بارك الله فيكم يا أستاذنا ونفعنا بعلمك

جزاك الله خيرا كثيرا مفيد جدا

May Allah bless the shaykh for his efforts

جزاك الله خيرا ✨

I feel so happy every time new content gets posted. Otherwise I don't know how to go about with my day, even though I have work for the most part of my day.

MashaAllah, this channel always addresses current issues and topics relevant to our present time.

I was waiting quite a while for someone to clarify this👀

Subhanallah ❤

بارك الله فيك

Sheik your my star. Jazakallah kheir. Thanks for update information.

May Allah bless you protect you

Ushtad Barak Allah feekum. Please a similar video specifically addressing the quboori proofs for isthigatha. I.e the hadiths they bring. Jazakum Allah khair.

Subhan'Allah, I was just looking for some explanation on doubts raised by some philosphers and exactly around this time, ustadh uploaded this video.

Very educational video, helped me understand much

Respect for Ustadh 🇵🇰 I really wanted to study in your madrassah In Sha Allah

May Allah aza wa jaAllah give you and your team a good ending

14:45 تعریف ابن خلدون و الفرق بینه و بین التعریفات الباقیة ایجی۔۔جرجانی۔۔تفتازانی۔۔۔تھانوی۔۔ موقف المتکلین من الاستدلال بالکتاب و السنة التقاء الغزو من الداخل حرکة الترجمة (اصول المنطق للسیوطی) الجھل بالکتاب و السنة

اقترح موضوع عميق عن ردود ابن تيمية على فلاسفة اليونان من رسالاته وكتبه اعتقد اشهرها كتاب كشف الظنون

SubhanAllah

2:38:11 spot on!

When is the next hot seat podcast coming out?

Assalamu alaikum brothers. Please turn on subtitles for each video, not everyone speaks English. I'm Russian.

Great content. Thorough and interesting. Thank you and JZK.

Considering joining the student of knowledge program, would appreciate some feedback from brothers currently enrolled jazakakumallahu khayran

Finally

Assalamualikum wrwb. May I get the reference abou imam Ibrahim an Nahī. Please check at 1:23 hour of this lectures timeline.

can anybody give me the link to the intoductory lines. They sound very beautiful

So in summary we can say whatever goes against teaching of Allah and teaching of the prophet that we have to refused but ability of debating using logic in a prpoer way is not a problem, so but some people show all of pholosophy is not allowed rather than be specific what exactly we refused from philosophy and not just to refused it in toatality

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته شيخنا. Is it possible to make a video about what exactly it is that was taken from the Greeks and other religions that developed into ilm ul kalam. For example these philosophical premises and necessary مقدمات and specific line of logical reasoning. I have always wondered what these are so that I can see exactly in the ashaaira and maaturidiya today where they have these concepts in their reasoning. I'd love to know the exact things that were taken, I am unable to find lectures on this, only the general mentions that ideas were taken from Greek theologians but I think it would be very beneficial to understand exactly what evil was taken from the phalaasifa to debunk the modern day ahlul kalam like for example the exact origin of the mawlid and why it was introduced (being from the faatimids and it was introdcued along with many other mawaleed) really helps to debunk any legitimacy to the mawlid. So if you could please share this with us in future episodes بارك الله فيكم

“there is not anyone upon the earth who says: Lā ilāha illallāh, wa Allohu akbar, wa lā ḥawla wa lā quwwata illā billāh,, except that his sins shall be pardoned, even if they were like the foam of the sea.” قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ مَا عَلَى الأَرْضِ أَحَدٌ يَقُولُ لاَ إِلَهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ وَاللَّهُ أَكْبَرُ وَلاَ حَوْلَ وَلاَ قُوَّةَ إِلاَّ بِاللَّهِ ‏.‏ إِلاَّ كُفِّرَتْ عَنْهُ خَطَايَاهُ وَلَوْ كَانَتْ مِثْلَ زَبَدِ الْبَحْرِ

Where can i get that shemagh from

Does anyone have the full nasheed from the intro?

Can you make this available to download as MP3?

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بارَكَ اللهُ فِيك يا استاذنا وجزاك ووفقك اني لاحبك في الله

Is there a pdf for this

How can I join this colledge?

Ilm ul Kalam is an important part of understanding the creed and answer the non Muslim world.... Imam abu hanifa was the strictest in shariyah...

J 1:36:24 1:36:24

You missed the best one from ibn ul hummam al hanafi

Mashallah Abdurahaman❤️ He’s literally Quoting from there own book from there own predecessors book, the salaf of philosophers like ibn Khaldun, Al-Iji, Jurjani and taftazani…etc. The kalamiyyin of our time has no answer for this lecture 😂😂 coz everything is taken from there predecessors book 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

New setup?

What about your debate against the people of Kalam?

3:17:00

1:57:00

My bookmark 54:06

No aqeeda without Aathaar

Do we follow Athari or Salafi Aqeedah then?

السلام عليكم ورحمه الله وبركاته ustad...........I din get the word mutakallimeen.......what is the meaning of mutakallimeen? جزاك الله خيرا بارك الله فيك

I'll continue studying kalām, thank you very much.

Mohammed Hijab - I have extensively studied the materials put forward by him in exhaustive details. I'd be interested to know Shaykh's impression of him, particularly because I have never seen Mohammed Hijab use Kalam for Aqidah-related discussions ever. He never uses Kalam to explain the attributes of Allah, rather from his discourses with atheists at Speakers' Corner - I understood clearly that, Ash'ari positions on attributes of Allah are not even philosophically coherent!!! He uses Kalam/philosophy to defeat the academic atheists or agnostics on their own grounds - who try to entangle speech and attempt to present the case against the existence of Allah or His attributes or the possibility of the existence of this universe without a Creator.

What makes me shocked is that people who corrupt their fitrah by studying began philosophy to understand aqidah call us,the people who fellow the quran,the sunnah on the understanding of the salaf kufaar and deviants not only did they call us bad names but they also butchered and killed the ahlu assunah in many places in the Muslim lands and forced the Muslim ummah to except kufaar philosophy as a must.

When will be debate us on the Sifaat of Allah ﷻ. We've made this challenge years ago and are still waiting

I enjoy watching this video but I’m not 100% against Ilm al-Kalam still. If it wasn’t for the scholars that learned this tradition there would be no way *or a really tough time* debating the philosophers and Mu’tazila of the time 🤷🏾‍♂️

Could you explain why you did not take the definition of ilm al-kalam as ilm al-aqa'id which is based upon quran and sunnah as mentioned by as-Safarini and others: وعلم الكلام هو علم يقتدر معه على إثبات العقائد الدينية أي المنسوبة إلى دين النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم - وإن لم تكن مطابقة للواقع ; لعدم إخراج الخصم من المعتزلة والجهمية ، والقدرية والجبرية ، والكرامية وغيرهم ، عن أن [ ص: 5 ] يكون من علماء الكلام ، وإن خطأناه أو كفرناه . ( وقيل ) : تعريف علم الكلام الذي هو التوحيد وأصول الدين : العلم بالعقائد الدينية عن الأدلة اليقينية ، أي العلم بالقواعد الشرعية الاعتقادية المكتسبة من أدلتها اليقينية ،

لا يفلح صاحب كلام

This make no sense. Talking about those scholars saying they don’t even know Buhari and so on show clearly he didn’t read the books of this great scholars. Just look at the book of imam Al ghazali; kimyayi saadet. He is using not only Hadith but Quran as well to explain things. I heard many things that are incorrect. Those ulema are the ulema form Ahlu sunnah. Those people are not only the closest to the prophet and the the 3 generations but are accepted as big scholars in alhu sunnah. Just look at how many volumes each scholar produced books, it is more pages than Al your KZfaq minutes together. This is ridiculous!! Have some respected read there work and not books that talk about them. Just read the book of beduizamam said nursi a great ashari scholar! Amazing book called risale Nur. Imam ghazali also great scholar amazing books. Those ulema defended the Quran and sunnah like no other!

Ilm ul kalam prohibited

May Allah save the ummah from the spread of this fitnah/falsehood/misguidance of these people who say these things about Ilm Al Kalaam. May Allah protect, have mercy on, and raise the ranks of the hundreds and thousands of scholars from past and present who studied, affirmed, taught, defended and spread Ilm Al Kalaam in the correct way, upon the Qur'an and Sunnah of Nabi S.

That's the way daees use in speaker's corner ...

is this Brother Ahle hadith scholar , if so his using very little Quran and hadiths , His using to disprove asharies with the saying of past scholars , My question is are the views of these scholars being authenticated and preseved like Quran and sunnah is , second question is this brother is always at the attack mode of people who have different views than his ahle hadith teachings , is he blind to the fact there are so many other new issues in the world like a man claiming to be women etc , seceterian is haram in islam

Why don't pause and reflect one second ? Why is it that Ibn Khaldun affirmed what he affirmed concerning the definition of 'ilm ul kalam ? He saw the globality of the ummah and saw that they all agree upon that. You can fight ashari and maturidi as long as you want, you cannot defeat them because the ummah agreed upon them !

Someone give me a TLDR. What on earth is Ilm al Kalam. Don’t wanna watch 3 hours

If you can’t explain a topic simply and clearly you don’t know what you’re on about ? Ooooh secret knowledge for the “students”

Philosophy is a tool like usul al fiqh. The Hadiths and Quran are treasure mines, and to extract from these mines you need proper tools. In fiqh, you cannot just derive rulings straight away, you must establish principles with which you derive rules from Quran and Ahadith. Philosophy is important because it is a tool in which one can properly understand the Quran without attributing to God things like having a body. Philosophy helps one find out the correct theology without making foolish mistakes and wrong conclusions that end up insulting Allah and attributing multiplicity to him, which is an existential weakness that Allah is free from. A few instances of philosophy being wrongly used does not discredit the entire thing. People of philosophy are not ppl of desires, they are rational individuals who can build up arguments logically. If you throw logic out of the window, not only are arguments invalid, but ppl will not take a person seriously who cannot logically substantiate their arguments. The religion is not negligent of logic, therefore if someone derives a conclusion and cannot logically prove it, they aren't allowed to just say, oh this is what the text says, because then they're putting the blame on the texts for their own lack of understanding and their perverse conclusions. Philosophy is a tool that must be used in line with Quran and sunnah. It is possible using philosophy by itself to come up with conclusions that are non-Islamic, and that's why philosophy is applied onto the text rather than used by itself in the same way principles of fiqh are applied to ahadith to come up with a pleasing ruling to Allah.

The consensus narrated by ibnu Abdul bar about the people of kalam has no legs to stand on. Some of the greatest fuqah and Usulis in madhab of imam Shafi'i are also Ulama of kalam.

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When does rational arguments that you say is allowed becomes Ilm Kalam? If you say it is 'if the conclusion doesn't contradict the Qur'an and Sunnah' ? Welcome to Ahlu sunnah waljamah (Ashari/Maturidi)

Wahhabism opposes every philosophy except their own unfounded philosophy

At least Abdur Rahman is consistent. Have you guys seen the Wahabi philosophers?? 😂

Ashari and maturidis are great muslims too. You are wrong

The so called present Asharies in the madhabs of imam shafi , imam Abu hanifa and imam malik regard the Salafi or Ahle hadiths as the offshoots of khawarij , Hence they can use the same references and views from exactly the same scholars to refute the salafis as being from khawarij , So when you link Asharis and Maturidis as jahmi or muatazilas , They can do the same , A coin has two sides so no secetrian in islam no king or sponsor of salafi ideology would go to our grave with you , so be careful