Bread Yeast vs Wine Yeast

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A simple 30-day experiment comparing the fermentation rates between Fleischman's bread yeast to Red Star Premier Cotes des Blancs wine yeast.
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@Silverholic 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a taste comparison video. The other channels that did that test concluded that the wine made with wine yeast tastes a lot better than the one made with bread yeast.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@jennifernelson4928 2 жыл бұрын

Would be good to do taste test

@GeorgeNoory42069 9 ай бұрын

this vid should have millions of view lol. answered hundreds of questions I had in a straight-forward presentation. much appreciated

@jacksonvillereclaimedwood6709 2 жыл бұрын

Great info dude. You are the best wine channel on KZfaq

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@CrayolaCoffeeBean 5 күн бұрын

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Idk why this answer is so hard to find lol THANK YOU

@halfmoongardens3345 2 жыл бұрын

I just subscribed, but have been watching your videos for some time. I enjoy your presentations, easy to follow and understand what you are doing and why. I have honeybees so I started making mead and I really have fun doing it. Thanks for sharing and the great community! Have a great day! Peace

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Than you for watching.

@jaymemendonca5670 Жыл бұрын

YOUR VIDEO IS VERY GOOD!! BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND AN INTERESTING MULTIPLICATION OF YEASTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND A HUG FROM BRAZIL!! BRAVO!!

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome

@gunnerzane5230 9 ай бұрын

Apple wine is my favorite. I make it all the time. Awesome channel.

@fathernoon9930 Жыл бұрын

Excellent comparison, thank you!

@citrus1229 2 жыл бұрын

what a great channel, learning so much!

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@micheleeastmond9552 2 жыл бұрын

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@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@noname-gp6hk 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the test, and this kind of lines up with what I've seen elsewhere. This is useful to see - I am new to this game and have been brewing for about 6 months and currently have about 14 gallons of various things brewing right now. I'm using bread yeast for everything right now just to get a feel for it, and next year I'll pick a wine yeast to try and see how it feels compared to everything made with bread yeast this year.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help.

@LoganStargazer 7 ай бұрын

Wine yeast is better; no argument.

@gladstonecoelho3095 5 ай бұрын

Very nicely explained n compared. Thanks a lots

@salimoneus Жыл бұрын

thanks for the experiment. although, no taste test between the two? seems like a logical part of a comparison.

@28ebdh3udnav Ай бұрын

I make wine wirh bread yeast all the time. Granted, not as strong but after ageing for 6+ months, it mellows out. In 2013, i made wine with blackberries and grapes, and wine yeast. Great wine in y opinion. Aged it about 8 months with apple wood chucks, it waz great

@Helliconia54 7 ай бұрын

made an Elderberry wine just recently Brewed out to 14.5%abv using bread yeast,Tandaco, Made in Australia My og was 1.130 finished at 1.020. Ferment stopped leaving a semi sweet wine. started 30/10/23 finished on 4/11/23

@amillionviews888 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Much needed, in my case annyway. Thanks from Sweden

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@vivianastridge2167 Жыл бұрын

A super excellent presentation for sure. As concluded ( very cautiously) there is hardly any difference in performance between the yeasts. Regrettably my experience has been quite the opposite. Countless experiments with different brands of baker’s yeast has forced the conclusion that the baker’s yeast available in my location is of no use in wine making. Thank you for this most valuable and desperately needed presentation.

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

Remember this channel is geared for people who want to try their hand at making wine as simply as possible. I use wine yeast a lot on this channel, but I tend to suggest that bread yeast will also work. You lose the ability to fine tune your fermentation with different strains of wine yeast, but if bread yeast is all you got, go for it...

@vivianastridge2167 Жыл бұрын

@@DIYFermentation Thank you for your reply. Bread or baker’s yeast is the only type easily available and affordable and as this does not work at all not one bit, absolutely nothing , it means the end of my attempts at wine making at home.

@chrisstaten3732 10 ай бұрын

Nice presentation thank you

@UtkershSanehi 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect..... Straight answer.... ❤️

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@captaindenutrias8931 Жыл бұрын

Great videos thanks for the knowledge I know alot more now liked and subbed

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and subbing.

@micahlantz905 10 ай бұрын

Y'all should do a bread yeast comparison, betwixt red star and Fleischmann! THAT would be a great adventure 😀 I've actually heard the opposite opinion of red start versus Fleischmann bread yeast. I've heard red star gets higher abv than Fleischmann. And that red star is more consistent.

@rachelalder2182 Жыл бұрын

Did you measure exactly the apple juice you took out or did you eye ball it ...

@dockofthebaycountrywines69 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but think God your back! I was running out of videos to watch!😅

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

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@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

@me-mj5dt Жыл бұрын

Was waiting for the taste test. 😆 I've done bread yeast before. Seems to take longer to eat up the sugar

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@LoganStargazer 7 ай бұрын

It also makes the wine taste like socks unless you decant it and let it settle. Even then, it still tastes a bit like socks.

@blackday500 3 ай бұрын

Thx a lot

@gladstonecoelho3095 5 ай бұрын

Can we use yeast of any kind. I mean bread or wine

@i-fart-in-elevators 2 жыл бұрын

Cool stuff!

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@edixanimations3142 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, man.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@brendamenon251 2 жыл бұрын

Hi luv your wine recipes. Could you please tell me how much of wine yeast should I use for 5 kgs of grapes and how should I add it during the making process.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry Brenda, but conversions beyond the basic 1 gallon recipes are outside the scope of the channel for non-members.

@brendamenon251 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you . God bless.

@brendamenon251 2 жыл бұрын

Sir could you please share your black grape wine making.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

It might be easier if you would look through the list of my available videos: kzfaq.infovideos

@nancyobrien2854 2 жыл бұрын

I have been thinking of experimenting with wine making. From my research, I was under the impression you had to use glass and was trying to locate a gallon jar. Thanks to this video, I see that you can just use the bottle it came in. I have a quick question. What size stopper fits in a juice bottle? If that would vary based on manufacture, then how do I determine what size stopper my bottle needs? Thanks in advance.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

These are what I use with both 2 qt. and 1 gallon bottles. They may be exceptions, but so far so good. As an Amazon Associate Affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases. amzn.to/3wymRHT

@darkjusticemedia5621 Жыл бұрын

Use the cap and poke holes , wrap some plastic rap around with some broccoli elastics

@patrickbodine1300 Жыл бұрын

Or, simply keep the cap loose. That is what I do. Works fine.

@LoganStargazer 7 ай бұрын

I suppose glass would be classier, but it should be sterilized first. The original plastic jug is already sterile and is a free fermentation jug. You don't even need an airlock. Just put the cap on loosely enough so that the pressure escapes. If you can hear a very faint "ssssss" coming from it as it bubbles, or the cap is slightly jiggling, you are doing it correctly.

@DIYFermentation 7 ай бұрын

@LoganStargazer All these topics have been covered in previous videos on this channel.

@rudradutta4932 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks you sir

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

@aaronmayers8490 5 ай бұрын

a taste test is needed

@wanitas190 2 ай бұрын

So i watched this twice and i never seen you add the yeast, so when do you add this and do you add the whole package or how much??

@DIYFermentation 2 ай бұрын

Back then I used 1/4 teaspoon. These days I use 1/2 teaspoon for everything.

@M4lkavian 2 жыл бұрын

up until now i used bread yeast for my meads, but i finally thought i'd give wine yeast a go - specifically, Lalvin K1-V1116 comparing it to bread yeast, it is not very palatable, for a young mead (drunk within 1 - 2 months of fermentation) it seems this is going to need a minimum of 6 to 9 months before it even starts tasting good think i'll go back to bread yeast going forward

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@johndsouza429 2 жыл бұрын

Hi sir gud afternoon. I'm doing homemade wines business in a small quantity. I've been watching all your videos regarding making wines. Thanks for uploading. I do have a doubt. I do wines of 200 litres batch at a time. Sometimes the bubbling stops within a month and sometimes it takes around two months plus. What should be done. Please advice.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but your question is beyond the scope of this channel. This channel does not offer personalized advice.

@SirWussiePants 2 жыл бұрын

Fermentation depends on lots of factors - consumable sugars, available oxygen in the must, nutrients but mostly temperature. Warmer temps will cause yeast to ferment faster (but can also put off some undesirable odors/tastes). I have a Riesling that is in its' 3rd month of fermentation as I intentionally fermented at 50F. Another wine I made at the same time was a red fermented at 70F and it was done in 2 weeks. Each fermentation is different. Let the wine decide when it is done and try to ignore the calendar.

@johndsouza429 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice sir. I live in the southern part of india in the queen of hills. The nilgiris where the climate is cooler most of the time.

@eddavanleemputten9232 2 жыл бұрын

Will there be a side by side taste testing after ageing?

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Nope, I'm done with this one.

@rachelalder2182 Жыл бұрын

Might it not be an advantage to stop the yeast before all the sugar is used ... So its less dry

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

The timing of sweetness lelels either through bydrometer readings or periodic tastings is not a technique(s) that are used on this channel.

@jazzed2b Жыл бұрын

Blind taste test would be great!

@wrob6512 9 ай бұрын

Wondering the difference without an airlock.

@aperson1181 2 ай бұрын

where do you ferment the juice, at what temp ?

@DIYFermentation 2 ай бұрын

Room temp. This channel assumes not everyone will have the perfect fermentation enviroment.

@ColonelJames Жыл бұрын

What about the taste?

@chickenlover657 2 жыл бұрын

So what exactly was the point? What is there to be learned? Less alcohol with bread yeast? Is that the only difference?

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

The point is if all you got is bread yeast, can you still make wine. Never mind all of the characteristics of the various strains of wine yeast. If that's all you got, then use what you got knowing that you're still making wine.

@eyeballll Жыл бұрын

It might be noted that the instructions on the back of the Red Star yeast packet says to mix the yeast with warm water for 20 minutes. Doesn't the yeast start working faster if you do this?

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

In the more than 100+ videos that I done simply by sprinkling the yeast across the top, I have not had any issues with starting fermentation. It is simply personal preference. Also, please refrain from copying and paste the same question across multiple videos and thank you for watching.

@micheleeastmond9552 2 жыл бұрын

Hi @DIYFermentation no livestream this month?

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the donation, it allowed me to go ahead and pay off my camera lens (not fully, but in part). I gave you a shoutout in the next video. No, no livestreams. I decided that having less than 20 concurrent viewers, and nobody contributing superchats, considering all the work behind the livestreams was just not cost effective.

@micheleeastmond9552 2 жыл бұрын

@@DIYFermentation Ok, was up waiting for the usual monthly fun last night but completely understand where you are coming from. Wish you the very best 😊🍀🍀🍀

@jasonzapata8924 7 ай бұрын

How many teaspoons of bread yeast is needed?

@DIYFermentation 7 ай бұрын

These days I now use 1/2 teaspoon.

@joejoey7272 2 жыл бұрын

In my experience the only difference is the sediment in bakers yeast is looser (doesn’t cake in the bottom very nicely )and finer and so if you aren’t careful when siphoning your can cloud up your wine very fast … as for alcohol I get 11-13% with bakers yeast .

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you four comment.

@Dave_en Жыл бұрын

The bread yeast does form a cake at the bottom if you give more time, say 40-45 days of starting the batch. So i can conclude that bread yeast is slower and not that suitable to make wine. Secondly the aroma and taste is not as good as wine yeast. You can use wild yeast and end up with 15-16% ABV wine. The taste and aroma would be better than bread yeast. But using specific grade of wine yeast would give you consistent results each time.

@joejoey7272 Жыл бұрын

@@Dave_en aroma wise it depends on what you are brewing , for a lot of meads bread yeast is actually great, I’ve gotten 15% from bread yeast but as you said it’s not consistent but usually at least 10%

@joejoey7272 Жыл бұрын

@patriziafusco2358 Жыл бұрын

what liquid is in the bubbler please

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

These days i used a diluted StarSan solution and water. In offers greater protection against fruit files. In the past I just used water.

@alimohamed-xn1nz 2 жыл бұрын

If we have no tools how to know it's ready

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

If taste does not matter, anytime after 2-3 weeks is entirely up to you. 6 months would be better.

@shanenikolaus9870 Жыл бұрын

Was the taste much different??

@DIYFermentation Жыл бұрын

I don't recall. Perhaps an idea for another video.

@brianthomason5022 Жыл бұрын

You never imply whether or not you use the entire packet of yeast. Matter of fact you don't even show adding the yeast it all

@balidog5553 2 жыл бұрын

How much yeast of each type was put in?

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but I do not recall. This channel does not generally deal with precise measurements.

@balidog5553 2 жыл бұрын

@@DIYFermentation ok thanks. Enjoy the channel. Hello all the way from Bali

@patrickbodine1300 Жыл бұрын

I generally use 1/8 teaspoon.

@marklambert9976 2 жыл бұрын

Where would I go about getting airlocks? Didnt know it was that easy to make wine

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

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@marklambert9976 2 жыл бұрын

@@DIYFermentation thanks! Love the videos no bs straight to the point you got my sub

@ColoradoJoeM Жыл бұрын

But he cant tell you how much yeast he added for some reason kinda odd

@alfredzarate917 2 ай бұрын

I missed the part where he put in the yeast

@Hutututu 2 жыл бұрын

Can anyone drink this after the experiment?

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Sure, they both still considered wine. Just using different types of yeast.

@Hutututu 2 жыл бұрын

@@DIYFermentation Thats cool! I'll try this experiment then.

@1ti1ti_y 5 ай бұрын

😮

@handsomedevil7072 2 ай бұрын

10.5 abv is not bad at all. Freeze distill that sucker and it will knock you out

@KelleyStrzelczyk Жыл бұрын

8.7 what? Sounds like my kinda flub.

@doidletp 2 жыл бұрын

Those are pretty close to laboratory conditions.

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

All that was missing was the white lab coat.

@thurstonsmith279 2 жыл бұрын

Next time use some extra yeast so that it doesn't take as long to ferment out

@DIYFermentation 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment.

@wryanddry2266 2 жыл бұрын

The yeast population doubles in less than two hours. So if you use eight times as much yeast, you save less than six hours. Temperature and nutrients are way more important.