Breville/Sage Barista Pro REVIEW. Is this the machine to replace the Breville Barista Express?

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Also known as Breville BES878 or Sage Barista Pro.
When the Breville Barista Pro came out we thought it was an exact replica of the Breville Barista EXPRESS model which looks virtually identical: Grinder built in, Single boiler etc.
However, having got my hands on one and used it for a bit I can say that they are extremely different in many ways so don't let its looks fool you.
This is a very tidy machine and while it might not suit people who want to level up their coffee game, it meets all the requirements of anyone who is dipping their feet into the coffee pool for the first time.
We are releasing a 101 coffee Barista course specifically for this machine in the next couple of weeks so if you're thinking of purchasing the Breville BES878 then hold on to your hats!
CHAPTERS
00:00 INTRO
00:32 OVERVIEW
04:22 LCD SCREEN
06:45 RUNNING A SHOT
07:58 STEAMING MILK
09:19 OTHER FEATURES
10:21 MAJOR FLAWS
12:44 FINAL THOUGHTS
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@Antody Ай бұрын

This is one of the better reviews of this coffee machine. No bullshit, no fluff, only a honest take on every function. Well done, mate!

@Rydecoffeecoach Ай бұрын

Thank you!! 🙏It's amazing how many times I get called a paid advert! 😅 I wish. Believe me, the moment someone actually pays me for a review I'll be celebrating it publicly. 👌 Thanks again man. Glad I could help.

@citation51power 2 жыл бұрын

I recently picked one of these up, My budget wasn't limited, but my kitchen counter space was, as it is replacing a compact nespresso machine. I think it is to easy to forget that espresso machines need about the same space as a microwave oven plus some extra space for a grinder and tamping etc, and let's not forget all the other things taking up counter space like kettles toasters food processors mixers etc

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Actually, you make a great point! 👌🙌 I hadn't considered people not having the bench space. I was relogated to the laundry for years because I had a commercial 2group plumbed in. Now that I downsized the machine I was allow to use the kitchen bench, but definitely a major plus for the Breville Pro is the footprint. Thanks for pointing that out!

@danw3676 Жыл бұрын

I really appreciate your review - particularly the little tips spread throughout like little gems, and the pragmatic acknowledgment of where this product sits in the price range. Just fantastic, thanks!

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment. Much appreciated! 🙏🙌 Yeh, it's an honest review of the machine.

@rxonmymind8362 Жыл бұрын

When finish grinding the grinder in this machine has to be vacuumed out regularly as it leaves whole beans and grinds in the burrs and surrounding area. What a PITA.

@josepheaton3779 2 жыл бұрын

When you take off the bean hopper the burrs have 10 settings giving you 300 total grinder settings.

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

That's very true! Although it would be a pain to do that every morning. 😂

@rxonmymind8362 Жыл бұрын

Also the grinder holds beans and after grinds they have to be vacuumed out regularly. What a PITA.

@steph8408 Жыл бұрын

@@rxonmymind8362 Easly solved with a single dose bellow swap out of the existing hopper. No retention!

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Yeh actually it's not hard at all, you can get one for about $20 on eBay.

@RedRupert64 7 ай бұрын

3 to 5 year life expectancy! Our Siemens is 17 years old and has made around 17,000 brews. Our Miele is playing up after only 6 years. They both make pretty good coffee quickly, which is what we need in the morning. I'm not sure I'm prepared to splash out on a fancy machine that needs a fair bit of faffing to get a coffee, especially as we'll need to replace it pretty soon.

@Rydecoffeecoach 7 ай бұрын

Yes, I wouldn't recommend this machine for an upgrade to what you currently have. 17 years is amazing and I bet you'll become the face of @siemens once they hear this news! If you don't enjoy preparing the coffee first then I would recommend sticking to the super automatic machines like Siemens or Jura, even De'Longhi. But you are limiting yourself to experiencing how amazing coffee can taste. Think of it like a microwave meal as opposed to cooking your own gourmet dinner. I love the ritual of making coffee in the morning, it's my mindfulness and therapy all rolled into one, so for me, spending 15 minutes making two coffees is bliss.

@kyllerkill Жыл бұрын

Who really needs to steam milk and make coffee at the same time. I make lite roast espresso perfect in mine. Works great. And at $800. That’s super expensive for me. I could never spend more for a coffee machine if I want to stay married. Let alone if my wife knew I spent $800 I think she’d divorce me right quick.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Depends if she's getting beautifully made lattes every morning. 😂👌

@zzbyasb Жыл бұрын

Great review! My luck has been 3 years. What machine would you suggest for better inside parts?

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Check out some of my new "what coffee machine to buy 2023" vids. It depends on a few factors but obviously your budget is also important.

@CJ-rv1lu 7 ай бұрын

does this steam oat milk ok?

@XCNbt 2 жыл бұрын

Hey ryd! quick question: i have the breville express at home for family and friends and like you im quite dissapointed with it only after a couple of months. its ok, but not what i thought. just not powerfull enough and the steamer is tiny and weak. im looking at some sort of upgrade and im not sure where to go with this. im thinking maybe a small machine with a 58mm portf and a grinder. brands like Gagia or Rancilio would be good? can you point me in the right direction.

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Hey there! Happy to help out. 👌 Yep the Barista express is really a let down and I don't know why Breville still sell it since they now offer the Barista Pro. I love the Rancilio Silvia but I wouldn't buy it without the PID or dual boiler if I was beginning. The Gaggia classic Pro is much better to start on and it will last you ages.

@XCNbt 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach Thank you very much!!! love the videos and the channel!! Cheers from Israel!

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 🥰👌

@gloriasanchez3824 2 жыл бұрын

What about temperature? I dont feel it hot, about 70 C... I doubt about PRO and express, feel that express is more hot, and the portafilter does not get warm in the pro

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

It does go up to 97 degrees or so but maybe the probe is in the boiler and not the group head so the water cools down by the time it gets there. I still prefer the Breville dual boiler.

@Iceman-xe7jo 2 жыл бұрын

My Breville Express which I bought second hand took a dump on me. So my wife bought me a used Brim and man was that a mistake. It’s a poor man’s Breville. The shot quality isn’t even on par with the Breville Express. So the cool part is Breville sent me a percentage off any one of the Breville coffee lineups. I’m considering the Pro or the Dual Boiler. I know it sounds like the Dual boiler is the way to go. But I do already have the accessories that fit the Pro model. I’m leaning toward both and torn. I think selling my 1st born is easier than picking an expresso machine. 😂

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! You've got a tough decision to make! How much do all you accessories cost? If it's not too much you could sell them and maybe make a bit back to put towards the dual boiler. I would opt for the Dual Boiler because it's a standard 58mm group head. This means you'll always have loads of accessories that fit it, the Express/pro you'll always have to wait until they make a 54mm version of the latest accessory.

@AEF95 2 жыл бұрын

Is it good enough for a small pop up cafe?

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

No I don't think so, you really need something more powerful. Usually you can find a second-hand commercial machine with two groups for a similar price. This machine would be only good if you were doing 20 coffees in an entire day which is not enough to run a business on.

@ibadriba 4 ай бұрын

Can you elaborate a bit about your statement that the machines wil last 3-5 years? Doesn't sound very long for a coffee machine. Have seen cheaper machines that kept going for 10+ years no problem. Also can you recommend a better machine (with grinder) that has better longevity?

@vshsvss 2 жыл бұрын

Hey what dose u Rekons best I normally go 18g

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Yeh go 18g and maybe you can dose up to 19g if you want to get a but more intensity. We use 20g baskets and dose to 22.5g to get 45g out.

@vshsvss 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach and grid coarser

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Not necessarily, it depends how long the extraction is taking. If it's more than 32 seconds you probably should grind a bit coarser.

@bryantmoody5416 2 жыл бұрын

Just unboxed this machine and the water does not heat up. Ive tried every fix recommended and the water still comes out cold. The boiler will NOT heat.

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I can't imagine how frustrating that would be!! Take it straight back and get a new one.

@hansari8697 Жыл бұрын

I got 7 years out of a Delonghi Magnifica. That probably broke down bc the last year or two I got really lazy with the descaling.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

That's truly amazing and I think it's one of the outliers to the stats but did you buy another one or upgrade to something else?

@hansari8697 Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach Just got a Barista pro.

@kyllerkill Жыл бұрын

It takes 30 seconds to steam milk up to 12 oz.

@huseyinalskan5539 Жыл бұрын

So you mean than breville oracle touch is the best choise 🤔

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

No, I think the Dual Boiler is the best (Breville) choice. Almost the same as the Oracle but without the built-in grinder. Just grab the Breville Smart grinder Pro separately.

@huseyinalskan5539 Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach and the second step is find a grinder ☺️

@rickcarter3183 Жыл бұрын

Have sent 2 these back due to fault tell me u say 90c I test new machine only getting to 70c on max heat

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that! Yeh I really thought they would be a significant upgrade to the express when they were first released but clearly they have still got issues. Interestingly, the dual boiler is super consistent (until it dies).

@angushain4777 2 жыл бұрын

@Rydecoffeecoach 2 жыл бұрын

Hi there!

@yarelysp1191 Жыл бұрын

Are there other machines around this price range that will last longer than 3-5yrs? I bought the barista pro about 4 months ago and o had to send it back for a check up I feel like it doesn't brew coffee hot enough. When it's brewing it's hot but once you add sugar it's lukewarm. I'm not a happy camper right now and after hearing you say this machines don't last long. Makes me want to return it and get my money back honestly.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Yeh it's definitely not a long term machine. 😥 The machines I recommend that sit at this price point are: Rancilio Silvia and Gaggia classic pro. You'll need to buy a separate grinder but in the long run it's worth it. You'll also need to go on a steep learning curve to get the best extractions out of it because they are not exactly beginner friendly. Another brand to check out which has a huge range is Lelit. You'll find excellent machines at various prices with different features. All these machines aren't the sexiest ones but they will last you 15+ years and are inexpensive and make great quality coffee. Let me know if you need more assistance! 👌👌

@yarelysp1191 Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach yeah, those coffee machines dont look to pretty in the kitchen lol. Oh! so, they're not easy to use either? what do you think of delonghi ones?

@yarelysp1191 Жыл бұрын

Although I have to say the new Ransilio Silvia looks alot nicer compared to the old one.

@yarelysp1191 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback!

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Oh yeh, I've got a video coming up about that very soon! It's definitely a much bigger improvement on the previous Silvias. This one is Dual Boiler and temperature control which is what the old Silvia's lacked. That one will be a great addition 👌

@glennover6046 Жыл бұрын

I bought this a year ago after to moving to Portugal. About four months ago, I noticed the temperature of my shots was tepid. After pulling a shot, I had to put it in the microwave for 25 seconds. Then, the steam wand started to fail. Can barely make a flat white. Now, the pump must have gone south as I cannot even pull a shot. I don't know how or where in The Algarve to get this fixed. I would NOT recommend this machine!

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

I can't help you in Portugal but in Australia every device comes with a minimum 2 year warranty and extended 4 years. That sounds like a faulty machine and should be replaced under warranty (if you have one from where you bought it.) Granted, it's not the greatest machine and I prefer the dual boiler if you have a budget under $2k. This is a good example of the issues with appliance machines. Thanks for sharing!

@glennover6046 Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach I submitted a warranty claim yesterday. Let's see what happens. And...this is supposed to be a machine as opposed to an appliance which is one of the reasons I spent the extra money. If for some ungodly reason, I can't get the issue resolved, I'm thinking about investing in something like a Profitec Go.

@mdmftw21 Жыл бұрын

@@glennover6046 any updates

@glennover6046 Жыл бұрын

@@mdmftw21 Not yet. I had an issue with DHL Express which has seriously delayed the whole process. I'll check back with the final result. Thanks for asking! 🙂

@harrygray1301 11 ай бұрын

It makes lovely coffee but has a bug that makes it stop after 5secs especially after back flushing. DON't buy it.

@Rydecoffeecoach 11 ай бұрын

That sounds like a specific issue. You might have accidentally set the timer for the shot button to be 5secs. If it's not that, you might need to call in a warranty from the manufacturer because it certainly doesn't do that all the time.

@harrygray1301 11 ай бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach Unfortunately it's passed the guarantee period. It did the same when I first backed flushed it, I got a fellow to fix it and a few monthes later the fault showed up again after back flushing. On the Breville web site , they say that it is due to a air lock and suggest using a turkey baser in the water inlet.Where the inlet hole is I don't know as it's not obvious to my eyes.

@RichardoBrit Жыл бұрын

Haha. So you are peddling a course on how to make espresso and machine maintenance etc for $800+ or more than the cost of the machine you’re reviewing. All of this can be found for free online.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

So you think asking for $47AUD ($30USD) is too much to ask given it cost me more than $2k to research, create, write, film? And the fact that I'm giving away heaps of information here already for free and at a constant loss - I do it because I am passionate about everyone around the world getting more enjoyment from their daily coffee - but you think that's too much to ask?

@RichardoBrit Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach But you’re not charging $47 - you’re charging $800+. $47 is for “introduction to coffee”, then $279 for “how to make the perfect espresso”, etc. I’m not saying you don’t think it is worth it, but as a new KZfaqr you have to first build an audience. All of this can be found online for free by established creators, is all I’m saying.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

So you're saying that because I don't have millions of followers my information and production can't be worth much? Thanks for your vote of confidence.

@RichardoBrit Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach I would suggest you take comments at face value vs trying to put words in my mouth. I am just stating facts about channel size, not implying the quality of content to channel size. I’ve seen great content on small channels and lazy / “ad” content on big channels.

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Ok well, I'm slightly confused as to what you are actually trying to tell me. First you accuse me of trying to peddle a course for $800+ which is grossly untrue since this particular video promotes my full course for this machine which is only $47. The $279 course is for all my content which I continue to add more content to each year...for free. Hopefully one day I'll have a bigger audience and maybe then I'll win your approval. Until then I guess.

@winfle Жыл бұрын

There are better choices in this budget. Lelit Anita with PID or Garcia Classic pro Much better equipment inside a

@Rydecoffeecoach Жыл бұрын

Lelit Anita is almost double the price of the Breville Barista Pro here in Australia so it's not even close. Lelit is a great brand but I'm just comparing this machine to the old Barista Express which is horrible. Also, Gaggia classic doesn't have a grinder so although it's similar in price, people will buy that and forget about the grinder (not that I endorse a built in grinder either 😀). But the Gaggia is probably not for a beginner, you need to know temp surfing and helps if you've been a skilled Barista. Appreciate the feedback though. 👌

@winfle Жыл бұрын

@@Rydecoffeecoach Wow, thats impressive! I've checked prices for Lelit in Australia, and they are so hight! For example, the revision for Lelit Anita with PID costs here (in EU) 575 USD, while in Australia - 754 USD for the version withour PID. That is impressive! Sorry, I didn't know about this one, thats why I decided to make a comment. Now it's absolutely clear! Thank you for your comment!