By the way...If you're in the UK, and you're thinking of buying a Sage machine (any Sage machine, not only their coffee machines), join my mailing list at coffeeblog.co.uk and then drop me an email to see if I have a current discount code to share. I don't currently get Breville discounts, sorry, but I do sometimes have Sage Appliances UK discount codes to share. Ta Kev
@luz3888 Жыл бұрын
This is my 2nd Keurig coffee maker of this model. kzfaq.infoUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf The first worked fine for more than 2 years, and I could still get a decent cup of coffee out of it if I fiddled with it when I decided to replace it. The problem I had with my first unit was this: When attempting to brew a cup of coffee, the unit would either keep brewing until the coffee was undrinkable or it would not run long enough and the coffee produced was way too strong. I cleaned the unit as best I could but it did not help. So in the end it was just too much trouble to get a good cup of coffee out of it, so I decided to replace it with a new one, which has been working great since I unpacked it.
@zvyaroАй бұрын
Thank you for the great content. I set out to buy a 100 quid coffee machine for pre ground coffee, but after watching you I got convinced that I need to go all the way, and now I am looking at the Barista Pro.
@tyo1013 жыл бұрын
Another very useful video, thanks! I look forward to the others in this series 👍🏻
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-)
@louisd957142 жыл бұрын
I also have the Barista Pro in black stainless steel, and so far I am loving it!
@exs304 Жыл бұрын
Picked on these up this week, mine included a dosing funnel too. Very handy.
@cisco54003 жыл бұрын
Thx, well done. I will have mine delivired this afternoon, looking forward to it.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Cheers :-) Hope you enjoy it.
@imfanuvsport3 жыл бұрын
which coffee is the best? bambino plus with your external grinder, or the sage barista pro with the included grinder? Have you tried to compare the inbuilt and separate grinder? would be VERY informative and interesting! Thanks for a nice review :)
@andrewchilds3653 Жыл бұрын
Pffft Kev now you gone n done it🤣🤣🤣£700 later I am heading for a new coffee experience, 1 Sage barista pro ordered with all the trimmings. Thanks for the awesome reviews and advice 👍👌
@nicorouger431510 ай бұрын
Love your videos bro, thanks for the info and passion you always share in every video!
@Coffee_Kev10 ай бұрын
Thanks :-)
@TGRacing3 жыл бұрын
Definitely on my short list. Thanks for the review.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure :-). What else is on your list? Cheers
@TGRacing3 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev More tinkering with my Gaggia Classic (VST basket, stainless group head, nanotech shower head). Possibly a Sage Grinder Pro. Then moving on to a Barista Pro. Nothing seems to match the Pro for value without spending way over £1000 and then a grinder on top as far as I can see.
@TGRacing3 жыл бұрын
I took the plunge (no small thanks to your excellent blogs Kev) and bought a Smart Grinder Pro. Instantly better results from the Gaggia. Will stick with this combo for now.
@Peter-uk3sp2 жыл бұрын
Just bought this machine so looking forward to giving it a whirl, this vid is great thanks. My only question (before even opening the box) having watched is, what the heck is 'pre-infusion stage'? Is this a widely known part of making an espresso, if so which point? Or is it specific to a setting on the display of this machine only?
@Itstimetogogo Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, great info. Keep doing your thing🤝
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan :-)
@iagolopez9532 ай бұрын
Hello Kev, do you know if the sage dosing funnel included in the machine fits the basic 54mm normcore bottomless portafilter??? Thank you!
@andrewstevenson54493 жыл бұрын
Just looking around with a view to perhaps replacing my Gaggia Paros bought in 1992/3. You asked for suggestions for future videos: I'd like to see more about maintaining the machines: over the years, my Paros had one professional service by Gaggia UK (RIP) and more recently I've had to replace a few things, which for Paros/Tebe parts is starting to get expensive now, as the parts are in such limited supply. The Paros was (I think) basically a Classic with a grinder in one snazzy package: when you take the lid off, it's built like a tank, and is dead easy to service. How are machines like the Sage Barista Pro for maintenance and servicing? I'm guessing much more difficult, given you're looking at electronics on the control panel rather than actual switches. Would be interesting to see what you can service yourself, as nobody likes to be without their espresso machine for long. How easy is replacing the gasket?
@slen62932 жыл бұрын
Hi kev, just got this machine and think your videos are really useful. I feel like I’m pouring good shots and making nice coffee. For 19g in I’m getting 38-39g out in around 27-29seconds. Though on my machine the flow out the porta filter always hits about 15s and stops for a second or two and then starts again. Is this a problem with the machine or my dialling in?? Doesn’t seem to change whether I’m fine or coarse with the grind.. any tips would be awesome!
@anthonytomlinson33113 жыл бұрын
I know that on your website you had a review of the Oracle. Could you also do an updated video review of that?
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Anthony, I'll be doing a series on all of the Sage machines in time, including the Oracle machines. In the meantime see coffeeblog.co.uk/sage-oracle-review/ Cheers :-)
@mphmtb3 жыл бұрын
In the UK is the Breville a cheaper made machine. Struggling to find info on the differences. Thanks for your videos.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Yes in the UK Breville machines are completely different, the brand name was sold here in the 80s. The Barista Pro has the brand name Sage in the UK.
@jamesmendeika302 жыл бұрын
Just bought this machine and will be using your videos to help set it up too! Please keep them coming! One question, it might seem daft, tips on which milk we should Use? Supermarket / high street available preferably not super specialist online?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Hi James, I'd recommend trying different milk & seeing what you prefer. If you have a local dairy that you can pop into, I know some people do that. Personally we get milk from the local milkman, oldschool! :-) Cheers, Kev.
@therealtulip Жыл бұрын
Finally managed to figure out who your accent reminds me of! 😄
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
I dread to think :-)
@therealtulip Жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev it’s Sean Bean 😄
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
@@therealtulip haha, excellent, someone else said that a while ago actually.
@therealtulip Жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev see? I wasn’t making it up. It’s uncanny.
@sallywiiley64152 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to froth the milk for a cappuccino using this machine. I purchased one and find that I can’t achieve one so if it is possible a video dedicated to milk frothing would be perfect.
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
See this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7tiobaCvK_ckqM.html ignore that this says how to make a latte, if you watch it at the time I've set it to, you'll see how to make a proper thick foamed old school cappuccino with this machine. Cheers, Kev.
@cagrihekim19162 жыл бұрын
One Question. Whether I press the doubleshot button from the main screen, or go to menu and press the custom double shot button, the extrction time is stopping at a time it wants. It's like I cannot control it. Would you be able to give a hint for how can I press this doubleshot button and for example get the machine extract for 33 seconds. As so far it just stops in a random time it wants. Thanks a lot.
@nisreennawar19593 ай бұрын
Just the machine alone, do you feel this is better or the bambino plus?
@Coffee_Kev3 ай бұрын
Barista pro has adjustable brew temp, and it's bigger, bigger tank, bigger drip tray, less filling and emptying, and it has an integrated grinder, and separate hot water spout. Bambino plus has the auto milk frothing, tiny footprint, but you'd need a separate grinder. So which is better for you would just depend on which one fits your needs the most. Ta Kev
@calvinb77842 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for your videos they’re brilliant. Could you comment about the pressure of this machine being higher than the more favourable nine bar please?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Calvin. The pressure of this machine isn't higher than nine bar, it's a myth :-). It has a 15 bar pump, as most do, but it has an overpressure valve which is set to 9 bar. Cheers, Kev.
@ChrisDavis3332 жыл бұрын
It runs 9 bar, it doesn’t allow anything above thanks to an over pressure valve. The way it’s set up you’re going to get a very consistent 8.5-9 bars of pressure for the life of the machine, the pre infusion is around 1 bar.
@wrench2010 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone found a decent single dose hopper for these machines that helps with retention? Getting my unit this week and in the market for one
@teepee42962 жыл бұрын
Hello Coffee Kev, fantastic videos thanks keep up the great work & I’ve hit that subscribe button ! Just a question on my Sage Barista Express (non-pro) if you don’t mind. My portafilter sprays coffee out from the sides I think it’s out the spout but there’s that much spray it’s hard to see where. I have changed the main seal in the group head but the old one was still intact. I did change the o ring on the spout but it’s strange you can’t buy the exact size or any o rings from Sage. Any ideas welcome please ? (Can’t white place your accent I think it is longitudinal to me more west though!)
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Thanks :-). Hmm, drop me an email kev@coffeeblog.co.uk and I'll reply with the details of someone who should be able to diagnose that for you. Cheers, Kev.
@gorane872 жыл бұрын
find a shop where they can make you seals? exactly the same you need ;) and i think also its not that expensive...
@RyanF91W3 жыл бұрын
Do you still recommend the bambino plus + grinder Instead of this?
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, Editing this reply slightly as I've just seen you're asking do I recommend the Bambino plus & grinder instead of this. I've said previously that I recommend the Bambino plus & smart grinder pro vs the barista express - mainly because of the lesser grinding range on the BE. With the pro, though, in my humble opinion it's a closer battle, due to the increased grind adjustment and other features I've mentioned in the video. So I still recommend the Bambino plus & smart grinder pro - but if I were on the market for a set up at this kind of price point right now, I'd be struggling to make the decision to be honest, and this will be the subject of a later video. I think they're both great options, there's pros and cons for both. In theory I'm put off integrated grinder machines as the burrs are warmed up by the ambient temp of the internals of the machine, and because usually, the grind settings are limited. I think the espresso range is almost the same on the barista pro as with the smart grinder pro (30 grind settings, smart grinder pro has 60 but that includes filter - cafetiere range), and I've been really impressed with shot quailty so far with the Barista pro, so I'm under the assumption so far that the grinder being slightly warm doesn't do much to the shot quality, but I will be doing some blind taste testing to explore this more. Cheers, Kev
@RyanF91W3 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev thanks for the brilliant reply Kev. I purchased an encore at Christmas and only really want something to make the odd espresso when I have time. Would the encore be ok with the bambino plus? If the answer is no and I then need to purchase a dedicated espresso grinder am I not then better off buying a more dedicated espresso machine such as the gaggia? Then coming from that thought process if it’s just for the odd espresso then the gaggia has the associated warm up time etc..
@eliottlewis45713 жыл бұрын
I currently have a bambino plus and baratza encore and although it isn’t perfect you can get very good shots. The main issue is the adjustments to grind size on the encore are too large, however I’ve been able to mess around with ratios and timing to more or less overcome that.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
@@RyanF91W Hi Ryan, I'm sure the encore would be "OK" just depends on how finely you want to dial in really - I think you may be slightly limited on fine tuning with the Encore, but if you have it already, I'd say just try it, if it doesn't work for you, upgrade :-). See coffeeblog.co.uk/best-budget-electric-burr-coffee-grinders-in-the-uk. Re Gaggia vs Sage: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bd-Eq5SZzZfPaYE.html Cheers, Kev.
@RyanF91W3 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev thanks Kev I appreciate it 👍🏻
@user-cn7ep1us9j6 ай бұрын
Thanks Kev I am just about to purchase the barista pro. I am a complete newbie but would like to buy a machine that will keep me ging for 5 years. I seen a review online saying if you go with 18 grams that limited with the amount of coffee I will have access to & very limited with the amount of different coffees will have access to. (said its fine for dark roasts but will run into touble when you need more than 18grams) T hey said the dual has a 58mm portafiler & 22 g of coffee beans which is a better option? pro has a 54mm portafilter & 18 g of coffee beans am I limited with the 18 grams of coffee? Thanks so much for your reviews on the brink of pulling the trigger on the pro
@Coffee_Kev6 ай бұрын
Hi :-). Can you point me in the direction of this review so I can understand what's being said, please? The barista pro basket is 54mm. If you're using stock basket, and using the razor tool to keep the dose volume the same (7mm headspace in the basket), then the dose weight will range from around 18-19g give or take half a gram or so, depending on the beans you're using and the grind size. The Dual Boiler comes with basket that will usually be about 21-22g when the dose volume is at the razor tool level, again depending on the beans and grind size. I'm not sure what is meant re 18g limiting the range of coffees you'll have access to, but in my opinion the machine itself (being an integrated grinder machine) is what limits the range of coffees you'd have access to, not the dose weight. If you're wanting to use lighter roasts, especially lighter roast high grown washed processed, denser coffees, really you need a fairly high end grinder, the integrated grinder in the Sage/Breville machines is fine for more standard espresso blends, but they just won't quite have the grunt and the burr quality than you'll need, and the temp control precision (although I think this is secondary in importance to the grinder) that you'll need, to get decent results with more challenging lighter roasts. I'd say the same for entry level stand alone setups, fine for more forgiving beans, not really the right gear for more challenging light roasts. If you're aiming at being able to pull shots with the full range of beans at your disposal, I'd highly recommend re-thinking the integrated grinder route. Start out focussing mainly on the grinder, put as much as your budget into the grinder as possible, start out with an Aeropress if you need to, or a budget machine, Delonghi Stilosa, Dedica, the new Gaggia Espresso, and then just upgrade the machine when you can. Most people don't want to hear that as putting money into a machine is way more exciting than putting money into a grinder ;-), but it's the right advice. Integrated grinder machines are great when it comes to convenience, some of them including the pro are OK for home barista use up to a point, but if you're wanting to really get stuck in to the home barista hobby, I wouldn't go integrated grinder if you can help it. Ta, Kev.
@away69 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to be that guy, but Americano is espresso first, water last. Long black is what you did, water first, espresso last, which I personally prefer as it preserves the crema.
@atticustay19 ай бұрын
Eh, kinda debatable
@mitchymenis3 жыл бұрын
I;ve just purchased the Pro - do you think its reasonable to use the grinder for filter and pour over as well or just espresso? What grind settings do you recommend for non espresso methods? I kind of wanted this to be an all in one for my coffee needs
@mitchymenis3 жыл бұрын
Great review btw. My machine arrived today and I agree dialling it in was tedious.. I was going finer but getting longer times which was confusing, until i started purging more than i thought was necessary and it seemed to become more consistent.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
HI Mick. I'll test this and come back to you. In theory the barista pro grinder is set up for espresso only so I'd imagine it would be limited when it comes to grinding courser. Also it's made to grind directly into the portafilter but you could get a dosing cup. Cheers, Kev
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchymenis Yes I was getting really confused with the initial dialing in, until I realized that the impact of the grind adjustment wasn't being seen properly in the flow rate until a one or two shots later, so when I started purging a full double basket it got easier.
@mitchymenis3 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev Ordered a dosing cup, bloody hard to find 53.4mm ones so had to get one 3D printed from Israel. A few days later with the machine and one thing I’m noticing is my first shot is usually perfect, but after flushing the PF and following exact same measurements the second shot always pulls much quicker and is often over extracted. Interested to see how consistent your results are...
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchymenis are you flushing before the first shot too? I've just ordered a 3d printed dosing cup too 👍
@mrss3914 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kev, we have just purchased the Pro but having problems and last night we had issues and have yet to get a lovely cup of coffee. Any tips? We also had issues with the coffee getting clogged. Machine is new and only arrived late yesterday. Thanks ever so 😊
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
Drop me an email kev at coffeeblog.co.uk - it's quite difficult to advise without asking you quite a few questions. Cheers
@rjben68 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kev I’m torn between getting the Barista Pro and the Empress Impress. The Impress has the advantage of preparing the puck and the Pro has the faster heat up and steaming time. The faffy bit with the pro seems to be levelling the puck with the razor tool, looks messy to me. My question is, once you have dialled in the grind size and time on the pro, would you still need to use the razor to trim each time? Would be grateful for your advice. Thanks.
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
Hi Rod, You should only need to use the razor tool while dialling in, once you have done that you shouldn't need to do it again. Cheers Kev
@clairecheetham351 Жыл бұрын
Hi there which is easiest to use, as I'm unsure whether to purchase the barista express impress or the barista pro, I'm quite a novice and I'm unsure when it comes to dialling in, thanks 🙂
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
Hi Claire, If you are looking at the easiest machine then I would recommend the Impress. Its fantastic and simple to use. Cheers Kev
@user-nv6bj3qf4x10 ай бұрын
how many heating units does this have? can you do espresso & steam at the same time?
@Coffee_Kev10 ай бұрын
Hi the Pro can't do that at the same time as it isn't a dual boiler, it is pretty quick though :-)
@espressoryen-grdahl91442 жыл бұрын
A late question.. Im used to an old 58mm e61 group espressomachine. But want a new. Been looking at the sage dual boiler (58mm basket) and this one (54mm basket) i realy dont need a dual boiler. Dont use milk much. Is it any big different between 58 and 54mm in taste? (I used to have a coffeeshop, so know my way around 58mm) the pro cost about 550 euro and dual boiler 1400 euro... Is it worth it just to get the 58mm filter.....or maby the dual boiler is that much better and more stable...?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Hi, there's a difference between the two machines for sure, but in my humble opinion it has very little to do with 54/58mm. The Barista pro is great for what it is, but it's an integrated grinder machine with an on-demand water heater. The Dual boiler is on another level, in terms of temperature stability, temperature precision & control, control over the preinfusion time and power. It's not a fair comparison of course as they're in different price brackets, but the Dual boiler in my humble opinion punches way, way above its weight! Cheers, Kev
@kenc83582 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the manual is wrong or my new machine is faulty - on page 16 of the manual "Programming Espresso Shot", the manual says I should hear a beep once I press the button to stop the extraction - I don't hear a beep. I know it was programmed, because the extraction time that I chose is saved in subsequent shots. It's a new machine, and if I'm suppose to hear the beep, I'll exchange it. Can someone assist please by confirming on their machine or follow page 16 of the manual and let me know the results?
@lorraine20847 ай бұрын
We have the same question. I’ve posted on the Sage UK Facebook page and had no replies. Curious to know the answer.
@fullbrookandfloorestateage8934 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kev, whats your advice, Barista Pro or the Express Impress. Same price as well?
@Coffee_Kev Жыл бұрын
Hi, The Impress is for someone who doesn't want any faff with very little learning involved where as the Pro you have to be ready for a bit of coffee learning. I am filming The Impress Vs the Pro later on this week, Hopefully I will be releasing it in a few weeks. Cheers Kev
@stanpowers6002 жыл бұрын
Great review, Kev! Question: If I'm strictly looking for a good shot of espresso (don't care about the milk and have good burr grinder) will the Bambino/Bambino Plus do just as well in that regard? Also I wonder does the included portafilter have that plastic piece in the bottom or is it just metal?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stan. Yeah they make good espresso - for the money - as long as you're sticking more towards the espresso roast side of things, the fixed brew temp is on the low side for lighter roasts. I say "for the money" as this is very much an entry level machine. Yeah the included portafilter has the plastic in the bottom. Cheers, Kev.
@stanpowers6002 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev Thanks Kev! I hadn't considered the temp issue wrt roasts - but I am a medium/dark to dark drinker, so safe, I think. I went ahead and got a Bambino and a bottomless portafilter. After a bit of grind experimentation must say it delivers a respectable shot. Impressive considering the price point. So far so good. All the best! Stan
@lloydthomas99632 жыл бұрын
Great video, going to purchase this today! Can you let me know where you got the 'Columbian Relationship' mat from please?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd, this is a table that I covered with Coffee sacks, and then put a clear Perspex cover on top of. I tried to resin over it but it went horribly wrong so I slapped the perspex on top instead. Cheers.
@lloydthomas99632 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev Thanks Kev, it looks awesome, I'd buy one! I've bought the Sage Pro now, would you be able to tell me where the white cups with the blue ring are from, that you use in the video please?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
@@lloydthomas9963 Wow that was a long time ago! I think I got them from mrwhiteware.co.uk Cheers Kev
@lloydthomas99632 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev Thanks Kev, they have so much on there 👀 Can you remember the name of them by chance? I’m struggling to find them. Thank you
@williamrennie3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us what your internal burr is set at?
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Hi William, I think it's at factory standard, but I'll check and let you know, cheers.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Hi William, it's set to 6 - which I think is the factory preset. Cheers
@markstanley3303 жыл бұрын
Hi Kev! Does this have an auto steaming facility as on the Bambino Plus? M
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, no the Barista Pro doesn't have the auto steaming fuction. Cheers
@johnnycarter61962 жыл бұрын
Only the Barista Touch has that function.
@rodtheshooter2 жыл бұрын
The bambino plus seems a good one for me as I like a couple of flat whites a day. But, by the time I buy a really good grinder it’s almost the same money as the pro. Based on that which one would you recommend ?
@hellolau Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing ?
@rodtheshooter Жыл бұрын
@@hellolau pro 👌
@hellolau Жыл бұрын
@@rodtheshooter thanks, I am in the same situation thinking of getting the pro or impress instead.
@housemusicallnitelon3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to coffee making and I'm considering getting this - does it miss the pressure gauge found on the Barista Express?
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
You're right, it doesn't have the pressure gauge. Cheers
@matcraigon2 жыл бұрын
Have you tested steamer with n on dairy milk? Mainly oat milk?
@Coffee_Kev2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mat, I use oat milk on the Pro and have no problems. I use Moma Barista Oat Milk, I find it has a really creamy taste.
@TaistoUuslail3 жыл бұрын
Like your style, detailing. Exactly one wants to see. Your sound and pic are bit out of sync when talking?
@F1reb1ad33 жыл бұрын
“This isn’t a dialing in video” - still looking for a decent dial in video to make GOOD espresso 😞
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
No this isn't a dialling in video. I'll do a dialling in video on the pro soon. In the meantime time see this great video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eqxyaaiQnL2Wk2Q.html
@timbates7993 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev I don't even know what dialling in is, so this would be useful as this is on my list!
@christiandisco7707163 жыл бұрын
Sorry, couldn't look past all the spilling of coffee/water and not cleaning afterwards. Possibly missed all the good information.
@Coffee_Kev3 жыл бұрын
I cleaned up eventually
@christiandisco7707163 жыл бұрын
@@Coffee_Kev 😂 Okay, you convinced me to watch it entirely.
@christiandisco7707163 жыл бұрын
Fair is fair, good review and good information. Thumbs up.