Brian De Palma and Martin Scorsese on How They Got into Filmmaking

Brian De Palma and Martin Scorsese on How They Got into Filmmaking | The Dick Cavett Show

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Brian De Palma and Martin Scorsese talk about their beginnings in film directing.
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Date aired - June 15th 1978 - Brian De Palma & Martin Scorsese
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
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@BackboneAgZ 5 жыл бұрын

With De Palma’s laughter and jokes, and Scorsese’s lack thereof, you can tell who grew up the son of a surgeon and who grew up on the lower east side of New York. Nowadays Scorsese is a big ball of laughter and joy and that’s great to see.

@juantsu2000 5 жыл бұрын

It also doesn't help that he was a drug addict around this time.

@juicyi3ig 4 жыл бұрын

Andy Zambrano I’m so happy for him having the bigger career and coming from more modest means... inspiring #hustle

@yanbrushfire5917 4 жыл бұрын

I'd say the personality difference is from Scorsese's lack of cocaine.

@coreycox2345 4 жыл бұрын

@@yanbrushfire5917 You might be correct.

@sparky6086 2 жыл бұрын

My cousin Sarah went to film editing school at NYU w/ "Marty". She said, that he was a shut in as a child due to poor health. Back then, doctors advised parents not to let sickly kids go out and play which ended up making them weaker which made them sicker, a vicious cycle. As a shut in kid, Marty would look out the window at people on the streets & sidewalks and try to imagine, what they might be saying or doing, and that was what started him on the path to film making.

@charleswinokoor6023 5 жыл бұрын

It’s refreshing that the audience is quiet, polite and supposedly paying attention. No cheap laughs or punchlines.

@DanceswithCoreans 2 жыл бұрын

Totally.

@SenorGnar 5 жыл бұрын

They both look like late 70s/early 80s Coke dealers. I love it.

@LBJTV 5 жыл бұрын

Martin seems a little coked up too

@Chinaski1 5 жыл бұрын

Marty was a coke addict back in the 70s.

@gutz1981 5 жыл бұрын

You just need to see After Hours to see that Martin was a massive coke head.

@TheEleatic 5 жыл бұрын

Who can tell the difference between Scorsese on and off cocaine???? 5 or six marriages? Let's not judge. I find both of them unlikable. DePalma has nothing important to say about the world or life. He is just a great stylist.

@zyrrhos 5 жыл бұрын

@@TheEleatic Personally unlikeable or you don't like their films?

@rhysroberts515 5 жыл бұрын

Brian had to miss his fishing trip for this interview.

@caitlinjoy6332 4 жыл бұрын

rhys roberts 😂😂😂

@fillstlauren7256 3 жыл бұрын

With his daisy dukes...#legend

@Chinaski1 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese seemed like a completely different person back then. Today he is much more extroverted.

@c.d.cabascangosanchez3687 5 жыл бұрын

He was on drugs

@rafaelandrade7627 5 жыл бұрын

This was1978, he was heavy on drugs and was probably entering the most depressing time of his life. I mean, he really thought he was going to die and that Raging Bull would be his last film.

@basscot17 5 жыл бұрын

@@rafaelandrade7627 shit this was news to me. Has he ever opened up about what he was going through?

@Dreamcatcher9000 5 жыл бұрын

@@basscot17 It's not a secret. After the success of "Taxi Driver", he made "New York, New York", with which he tried to revive the old Hollywood musicals, but it was a critical and box office bomb (and it wasn't nominated for any Oscars!), so he got into drugs and depression. De Niro tried hard to persuade him to direct "Raging Bull", and at first Scorsese didn't want to direct ever again, but he did and the film made some impact and he felt better. And yes, it's so obvious in this interview that something's not right with him (on the other hand, look how joyful De Palma is, I don't know what he was smoking back then :p ).

@juicyi3ig 4 жыл бұрын

HAL 9000 Raging Bull came out in 1980, NY NY in 1982*

@darklaren 5 жыл бұрын

Brian De Palma: "I have a high tolerance for blood, unlike, (points at Scorsese) my associate here." You just wait!

@melquizedec 3 жыл бұрын

pretty much blood on Taxi driver tho

@eddwardfchaos 5 жыл бұрын

"You have to do ANYTHING . You have to steal a camera . You have to steal film . You have to steal money ." Every piece of interview I see with Scorsese makes me love him even more , & props to DePalma for referencing THE THIEF OF BAGHDAD , it got pulled offa here recently and it's one of the few films that actually lives up to the hype ; "The miracle adventure picture of ALL time" the trailer proclaims , and they did not exaggerate 🎯

@eddwardfchaos 5 жыл бұрын

Travis Besst - word , I need to vatch more of VVerners' films , I've always enjoyed seeking him in others' especially the obvious reference point to this topic , Les Blank's 'VV. Herzog eats his shoe' , which shows how far he'd go not just for his own work , but to embolden and support the life of finer films & their creators.

@ThirteenPastMidnight 5 жыл бұрын

*All these clips are great, but it would be so much better to make the full episodes available.*

@AntoniosPapantoniou 5 жыл бұрын

Two masters on their way to becoming legends. That's so amazing to watch. And that's just before they even made Raging Bull and Scarface, among other of their great films that came out in the 80s. I kind of laugh with the comments pointing out how much "high" they both are. So I guess there must be many cocaine experts who watch this. These filmmakers have always been addicted to films and filmmaking so that's the real thing that goes on here. Simple as that.

@IvoPoblete 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, De Palma's Blow Out from 1980 is extremely incredible and great and beautiful. For me it beats Raging Bull and Scarface. So, yeah. I recommend Brian's film. It's available for purchase on KZfaq, btw.

@teenclash9618 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think I've ever seen DePalma smile much less laugh heartily before.

@phillipbrown5005 5 жыл бұрын

Two Master Filmmakers when they were young.

@geronimo8159 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese talks so fast, it seems like the video is in x1.75 speed...

@gerardoibarra1403 2 жыл бұрын

Carrie or Taxi Driver? Scarface or Raging Bull?? The Untouchables or Goodfellas??? All are great films by these two master craftsmen!!!

@nickrigdon8883 5 жыл бұрын

To think these guys hadn’t even made their best work at that point.

@marshallzane7735 5 жыл бұрын

One could argue for Taxi Driver

@steveporter3161 5 жыл бұрын

Anybody who did, would be correct. Taxi Driver is Scorsese's best for sure and probably one of the 10 best films ever made

@Laza656 5 жыл бұрын

Taxi driver is the best scorsese movie

@nicholasntaganda3768 5 жыл бұрын

Ever see Taxi Driver?

@CyfilmsProductions 5 жыл бұрын

@@marshallzane7735 taxi driver is for sure my favourite, although goodfellas is arguably his greatest technical achievement and raging bull is a masterpiece also

@TheRealGnolti 5 жыл бұрын

Paul Giamatti will play De Palma in the biopic.

@kylebrouillard7007 5 жыл бұрын

he was great as bojack

@devinpabingwit1734 5 жыл бұрын

Oscar Issac will play Scorsese

@cicranelnaz 5 жыл бұрын

There will be a biopic about brian de palma?

@armandogarciaaizaga4728 5 жыл бұрын

@@devinpabingwit1734 I also thought he would be perfect!! 😂😂

@SaintMartins 3 жыл бұрын

In 1978 films released by these two at the time of this interview... Scorsese: The Last Waltz (1978) Concert film & documentary about The Band De Palma: The Fury (1978) A suspenseful film starring John Cassavetes The next films released by these two... Scorsese: 1980 "Raging Bull" a drama starring Robert Deniro & Joe Pesci De Palma: 1979 "Home Movies" a comedy starring Keith Gordon & Kirk Douglas

@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын

then De Palma should have been the one looking depressed. The Fury was lame.

@Shunieeez 4 жыл бұрын

If Filmmakers were anything before they were filmmakers, they were film lovers. That's the something.

@mynameisSULAB 4 жыл бұрын

Intern 👏🏽

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

Cinephiles.

@haintedhouse2990 Жыл бұрын

i thought Scorsese was more successful at transferring his film inspirations to film - De Palma's inspirations border on plagiarism

@Love-Sensibility Жыл бұрын

That's beautiful

@Paul-dz7xi 5 жыл бұрын

Dope as hell clothes. I dig it.

@cgh7337 5 жыл бұрын

DePalma won't stop giggling & Scorsese looks pissed off the whole time.

@Dreamcatcher9000 5 жыл бұрын

He was in deep depression back then, after the critical and box office failure of "New York, New York".

@purplesword5536 5 жыл бұрын

Marty looks like cool here!!!

@bigsexygoat8 5 жыл бұрын

looking like a scene form Carlito's Way

@oliverholmes-gunning5372 4 жыл бұрын

Scorsese reminds me of Tarantino here, in that I can't tell if he's being incredibly passionate or if he just snorted Colombia's annual GDP before going on the show. Probably both...

@melquizedec 3 жыл бұрын

you mean DePalma

@oliverholmes-gunning5372 3 жыл бұрын

@@melquizedec no, I mean Scorsese

@keefwins04 3 жыл бұрын

The character Marty played in “Taxi Driver” reminds a little of the “Jimmy” character Tarantino played in Pulp Fiction, as in they both talk fast. So yeah, Marty and Quentin both talk fast. Especially when they are talking about films and filmmaking. I love De palma too. I could listen too these directors talk film all day. The round table with John Landis, John Carpenter, George Romero is fun too. I might even be missing a couple too.

@richardstevens8839 2 жыл бұрын

He ditched that Cocaine habit after he had a nervous breakdown in 1981

@oliverholmes-gunning5372 2 жыл бұрын

@@richardstevens8839 true, but this was recorded in 1978

@ManojReddyChemarla 5 жыл бұрын

Brian De Palma kinda looks like Ralph Fiennes with a bald head....

@gutz1981 5 жыл бұрын

You mean like the way Ralph looks without his wig?

@claumeister1 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese's talking speed at that age was unbelievable. It comes in short bursts, like a machine gun. By the time you realize he's starting talking, it's already over, and you have to think thru what he probably said from the context. I'm amazed Cavett can follow him; or at least he's acting like he can. I guess it's easier up close in person. The two directors obviously are used to each other, talking at the same time like an old married couple. But from the outside, it's almost like a foreign language. Someone should write a thesis explaining Scorsese's directing style from his speaking style.

@erictrenbeath9680 5 жыл бұрын

An already fast mind on blow.

@DrVonNostrand Жыл бұрын

Cocaine

@sadhbh4652 11 ай бұрын

He says he has trouble reading. My guess: ADHD

@jazarcunningham5867 5 жыл бұрын

This came out in 78. Mothafuckas never even seen the great classic “Scarface” yet. It wasn’t til then the audience became shook

@Tev2667 3 жыл бұрын

This was before they made even more classics like scarface, goodfellas, the departed, casino, the untouchables and many more

@SmartCookie2022 Жыл бұрын

Two of my favourite directors together being interviewed... perfect.

@caitlinjoy6332 4 жыл бұрын

I‘m more interested in knowing how Scorsese talks so fast vs how he got started in the film industry 😂

@ignatiusjackson235 4 жыл бұрын

Cocaine

@suat365 4 жыл бұрын

Martin Scorsese: fastest talker of all time

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

Well, let's not forget auctioneers.

@davidalkhed3368 5 жыл бұрын

Could the whole interview be published please?

@harigovindvarma9727 4 жыл бұрын

I prefer Brian over Martin coz I feel Brian's movies are kinda faster .He doesn't really need time to build up a plot.

@capoislamort100 5 жыл бұрын

Machine gun Scorsese

@claumeister1 5 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing up above, then I saw your comment. Exactly.

@rampageclover9788 3 жыл бұрын

Two legends

@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2 5 жыл бұрын

Brian De Palma can't stop giggling like a little schoolgirl.

@alexpollock6932 4 жыл бұрын

7:34 that’s an unsettling laugh

@juicyi3ig 4 жыл бұрын

Full episode please🙏🏼

@conordemmett 5 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!

@SidLaw500 5 жыл бұрын

This is literally awsome!

@BuddhaReflex 5 жыл бұрын

Scorses's hilarious

@DS8379 2 жыл бұрын

Love these guys!

@djinnmagik6867 Жыл бұрын

The only one missing would be Stanley Kubrick 🙏🏽 I love both of these filmmakers 😁🤩

@RobinSchoutenRS Жыл бұрын

Mr Cavett, do you have preserved your interview with Sam Peckinpah and Stella Stevens (from 1970, promoting The Ballad of Cable Hogue) ? If you have it, please upload it. Thank you.

@anthonybooth1952 5 жыл бұрын

DICK CAVETT YOU ARE MY HERO

@derekseven1647 4 жыл бұрын

De Palma looks like Vincent Prices's hippy son.

@jacuzzishoes 3 жыл бұрын

De Palma fresh off The Fury and Marty in his Coke heyday. ahhhhhh

@nathanielfriedman9832 5 жыл бұрын

De Palma looks like John Carroll Lynch in Zodiac

@GabrielSoloGuitar 5 жыл бұрын

I never knew these guys were connected. I guess it makes all the sense in the world. I should wiki them.

@Mokkari77 5 жыл бұрын

There's a segment of the HBO documentary on Spielberg where they talk about how in the 70s, Spielberg, Lucas, Scorsese, DePalma and Coppola were friends out and help each other with their movies Brief bit of footage of them hanging out in the trailer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrZ0p6ur3ZPVZoE.html

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

A link between them early on was De Niro, when he was just starting out. He was in De Palma's first two low-budget films, 'Greetings' and 'Hi Mom,' then was in Scorsese's 'Mean Streets' in 1973.

@brynleyjones2674 5 жыл бұрын

De Palma kinda seems like a psychopath in this interview

@user-sh5iu1lq6x 5 жыл бұрын

Brynley Jones Exactly what I thought. Good thing he grew a beard.

@deckofcards87 5 жыл бұрын

His movies are cold and distant, he very well could be one.

@LBJTV 5 жыл бұрын

@@deckofcards87 Most of them are. Bunch of adrenochrome junkies.

@c.d.cabascangosanchez3687 5 жыл бұрын

Marty too

@juicyi3ig 4 жыл бұрын

Al 😂

@arnoldstollar5375 4 жыл бұрын

Great film and great acting.

@diurpaneustv2166 3 жыл бұрын

Also great directing

@cinnamon4605 5 жыл бұрын

One of the Funniest interview!

@psychodelicrock12 2 ай бұрын

Brian looks so young

@kokolovitch56 2 жыл бұрын

De Palma made some great movies.

@alyssarodriguezlife1471 9 ай бұрын

These two guys made the four best movies ever my opinion Scarface casino goodfelas and Carlitos way

@johnhunt5181 Жыл бұрын

Both part of that late 60s early 70s gang... Including Spielberg and Lucas... Both brilliant directors no doubt... Scorcese hit the height when he made Goodfellas.... De Parma.., maybe Scarface although my personal favourite is Carrie

@solomonrichards599 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about Coppola or Polanski

@braziliantvhd2768 11 ай бұрын

DePalma seems pretty bubbly here, but Hollywood eventually broke him, now Scorsese is the exuberant one embraced by the studios

@joaoyapur1247 Жыл бұрын

i've always thought they could have done a better job at making that blood on Taxi Driver more realistic, now i know why..

@MCLUHANVIDEOS 5 жыл бұрын

Do you have the time McLuhan, Al Hirt, Capote and Gayle Sayers were on the show, I believe it was December 1970, I think

@jimmybonez8928 5 жыл бұрын

1978 actually. Cavett mentioned The Last Waltz which came out in 1978.

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

@@jimmybonez8928 This interview is from 1978, yes (June 15, as it says in the description box). The OP was asking about a different episode with different guests.

@johnkirk. 3 жыл бұрын

Marshall McLuhan?

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnkirk. Can you think of another McLuhan?!

@johnkirk. 3 жыл бұрын

@@ronmackinnon9374 no need for the snark. I also was not asking you

@milesdavis6798 3 жыл бұрын

You gotta love Martin Scorsese movies but De Palma has Scareface and that movie blows them all away.

@Der_Langenauer 2 жыл бұрын

Hands down!

@kangaroo3708 Жыл бұрын

5:50

@serbronnofhighgarden3815 4 жыл бұрын

Young Scorsese reminds me of Jesse eisenberg

@mattdeeryanimation 5 жыл бұрын

Martin seems a bit fed up with Brian.......

@roybatty9663 4 жыл бұрын

Saying 'martin' sounds weird having heard everyone call him 'marty' for years now

@kathypop4 10 ай бұрын

He was depressed, it had nothing to do with Brian or Dick

@arctex5745 5 жыл бұрын

Ummm.Hell yes!

@lauraannevely 5 жыл бұрын

Get ya fuckin shine box

@Gannooch 2 жыл бұрын

I have nothing against the other celebs that were on this show but is this channel ever going to show the Dick Cavett shows where he interviews Jackie Gleason or Art Carney? How about any Honeymooners actors that were part of the main cast? These are rarities much like the other videos around here.

@brettthebad 5 жыл бұрын

Marty was HOT....

@Gannooch 2 жыл бұрын

have nothing against the other celebs that were on this show but is this channel ever going to show the Dick Cavett shows where he interviews Art Carney or Jackie Gleason? I

@Gannooch 2 жыл бұрын

How about any Honeymooners actors that were part of the main cast? These are rarities much like the other videos.

@farrahfawcettmajors896 2 жыл бұрын

Both of these guys were pretty quite the audio was terrible Dick was fine ...but the sound on Martin half off...Di Palma Mike was in a better place...strange....too low the audio was I was really looking forward vto hearing Scorcese talk

@rahultiwari-dx8qo 4 жыл бұрын

3:26 to 3:26 Bob's bestie is on a trip

@lonewolffullmoon 3 жыл бұрын

De Palma is a pain in the ass Martin talks to fast but Geniuses nevertheless!

@sebastianalegria3401 5 жыл бұрын

Genius like them are impossible to find these day, i think the cinema died long time ago, i'm 22 and discovered the past cinema was other quality than now, my father who grew up watching classic films, he used to tell me about that cinema

@nakedhand 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese so humble - De Palma so full of himself.

@HabAnagarek 3 жыл бұрын

Scorsese is a much more articulate and engaging interview subject now, at least in his 60s-today.

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, he's well into his 70s today.

@juicyi3ig 4 жыл бұрын

“Are you two.. childhood buddies?”🙄🤦🏻‍♂️...

@coach3155 5 жыл бұрын

i feel like marty snorted 3 lines and brian smoked a fat j to his face right before this interview

@yes-fq6jd 4 жыл бұрын

Brian De Palma really doesn't look like the guy who directed Scarface.

@dustinprewitt 3 жыл бұрын

Ive just realized that Scorsese has never directed a western.

@brendantaylor3570 2 жыл бұрын

I think his next one will have a western feel to a degree, Killers of the Flower Moon.

@ThatGingerCuntFromTerminator2 3 жыл бұрын

Why is Brian De Palma giggling like a schoolgirl the entire time?

@cjtorres6087 Жыл бұрын

It was the 70's man can't blame Martin a Lot of celebrates we're doing blow it was the time of coke like Scarface.

@joni1405 4 жыл бұрын

I love all the comments about how fast Scorsese talks. Yeah, that's what happens when you spent the entire 1970s on cocaine, guys.

@ciaran6309 3 жыл бұрын

Running schools funny..

@fede2820 5 жыл бұрын

who's that next to Fidel Castro?

@okaka-sanfilmeedition8971 5 жыл бұрын

Fede Fidel Castro, lol

@renan.csmaia 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese and Jesse Eisenberg have the same voice!

@WokerThanThou 5 жыл бұрын

It sounded like Woody Allen, then I remembered Eisenberg did play a young Woody type in Allen's Cafe Society. It seems all 3 are sounding the same now.

@AaronBowley 5 жыл бұрын

Nailed it

@zefonk 3 жыл бұрын

And Dick Cavett is inimitable...

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

Actually, I think Rick Moranis did great imitations of him!

@baines1998 5 жыл бұрын

De Palma looks so weird without a beard.

@jimmyjennings8956 Жыл бұрын

Scorsese looks a lot like Charles Manson.

@DanielTheWalrus 3 жыл бұрын

Scorsese can't handle blood? So who directed 90% of his work?

@ronmackinnon9374 3 жыл бұрын

It sounded like he was arguing back to De Palma, saying it was only his own blood he had a problem with, didn't mind other people's blood (hard to hear the exact words, though, cuz he talks so fast).

@glenbellefonte9620 5 жыл бұрын

I love Scorsese films from his prime, and I respect DePalma but I just do not get what is genius about his films. I just do not.

@pbrsteve5974 4 жыл бұрын

Dressed to Kill

@giuliorasi 5 жыл бұрын

Scorsese is so high on coke in this clip

@davidram9511 5 жыл бұрын

Qt wants a 3some with these 2 directors , qt wishes he was the host

@artturnerjr 5 жыл бұрын

He's watching this on repeat at this very moment. XD

@dantebad 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Scorsese didnt like blood back there.... im guessing thanks to de Palma´s friendship and love for broken bones and blood he turned out to be the scorsese who made Godfellas and Casino. Thanks Brian.