De Palma and Scorsese on Welles and Hitchcock | The Dick Cavett Show

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The Dick Cavett Show

The Dick Cavett Show

5 жыл бұрын

Brian De Palma and Martin Scorsese discuss filmmaking technicalities and two of the all time greats.
Date aired - June 15th 1978 - Brian De Palma & Martin Scorsese
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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@shaid1111
@shaid1111 4 жыл бұрын
What is this craziness... Film makers discuss film technique and not just talk about how it felt to work with "X actor".
@lamolambda8349
@lamolambda8349 4 жыл бұрын
Also the host isn't laughing at everything
@angiecuteass
@angiecuteass 4 жыл бұрын
When film making was actually an art....
@sawrado375
@sawrado375 4 жыл бұрын
@Vincent H. Today's blockbusters are much worse than blockbusters back then.
@louiso.4325
@louiso.4325 4 жыл бұрын
@@sawrado375 Interesting cinema today is independent stuff that flies under the radar. Check out stuff by A24 for example.
@danilogondim9300
@danilogondim9300 4 жыл бұрын
@Vincent H. Chris Stuckman is alright, there's much worst film critics on youtube (Angry Joe)
@interfusor
@interfusor 5 жыл бұрын
Scorsese talks fast even at 0.75 speed.
@shaunpearson7905
@shaunpearson7905 5 жыл бұрын
This may have been his cocaine years :)
@interfusor
@interfusor 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaunpearson7905 True but look at recent interviews. He's still machine gun fast in his seventies.
@ceejay1794
@ceejay1794 5 жыл бұрын
He’s tremendously syncopated. It took me years to figure out that it wasn’t a chemical or emotional response. It’s just Marty.
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR 4 жыл бұрын
Was he addicted to coke or something? I know he had a problem with something
@amsheel9921
@amsheel9921 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRubberStudiosASMR He had a coke addiction around the 70s and 80s.
@SAMdaSHAM
@SAMdaSHAM 3 жыл бұрын
De Palma: “Speak for yourself. I try not to draw attention to myself.” Proceeds to use 8 split diopter shots in Blowout.
@judahwarsky8723
@judahwarsky8723 2 жыл бұрын
Funny guy, no director draws more attention to himself than de Palma !
@guitarmatricide4834
@guitarmatricide4834 2 жыл бұрын
@@judahwarsky8723 Maybe Fellini… But yeah, De Palma is up there.
@checkyourhead9
@checkyourhead9 4 жыл бұрын
No clapping every two.minutes! No talking about this actor or that actor. I love it
@Kareragirl
@Kareragirl 4 жыл бұрын
That's how it should be. Let's face it, most actors are interchangeable. They don't have the capacity to save a movie like Daniel Day-Lewis does, and get far too much credit for their work. Directors have the hardest job. They're responsible for all the parts coming together.
@DarthRelkew
@DarthRelkew 4 жыл бұрын
Actors are just people who are props for the director to tell the story. We just happen to admire, alot, about what they do.
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz
@FirstnameLastname-my7bz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kareragirl neither does DDL, come on now
@kangaroo3708
@kangaroo3708 Жыл бұрын
They literally talked about how important casting is and how Tippi Hedrins performance made the birds a lesser movie than it could have been
@kangaroo3708
@kangaroo3708 Жыл бұрын
@@Kareragirl Daniel day Lewis isn’t the only actor that can make a bad movie watchable Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Philip Seymour Hoffman could just to name a few. And De Palma literally says at the end of the video how important it is to cast properly and he used Tippi Hedrins performance in the birds as an example. Maybe watch it to the end
@santafucker1945
@santafucker1945 3 жыл бұрын
Talk show hosts back in the 70s: _asks intelligent and interesting questions_ Talk show hosts now: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
@mnkykungfu
@mnkykungfu 3 жыл бұрын
They go with what the audience demands the most. Audience=dumber, Show focus=dumber.
@bencummings5304
@bencummings5304 3 жыл бұрын
But TV shows were all they had back then, now they have Podcasts
@curatorcogs5438
@curatorcogs5438 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just Jimmy Fallon honestly, he’s murdered the Tonight Show. Also, audiences were more respectful back then and saw talk shows as light conversation, not total comedy shows. These days hosts are very concerned about attention spans so they keep making comedy bits for everything, which is mostly how hosts like Kimmel, Fallon and even Norton operate (i personally think Norton’s show is the finest on television at the moment despite of this problem), but there are a couple of hosts still around that are able to handle seriousness, like O’Brien and Colbert. I think Colbert has gone much too political, and O’Brien is unfortunately ending his show.
@agraciotti
@agraciotti 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. So true
@Jackkenway
@Jackkenway 3 жыл бұрын
@@curatorcogs5438 I totally agree, I was gonna comment about how political talk shows are today then I saw your comment, it's sad to see this lvl of conversation gone, the hosts back then knew how to ask the right questions, how to make the audience hooked up and most importantly how to interview the gusts, nowadays it's all politics, whether it's the monologs or the question, except I very few shows like you mentioned, Conan is by far the most interesting imo, I used to like Colbert but he took it way too far, his show became like the news basically, except funnier, so I find myself watching clips like this one and longing to that era, although I wasn't even born yet back then.
@FredPauling
@FredPauling 3 жыл бұрын
It is depressing that interviews like this are so rare today. Time and space for ideas and discussion. Time for a renaissance!
@leestringer
@leestringer 3 жыл бұрын
...podcasts?
@jakebee7205
@jakebee7205 2 жыл бұрын
Lol for real
@NostalgiNorden
@NostalgiNorden 2 жыл бұрын
They exist. They are called podcast.
@leeturton9254
@leeturton9254 Жыл бұрын
Everything was better back then... movie's and music especially...that is without question... just look at the state of things now....the kids don't have nothing... it's like everything died around 1997... like creativity in film in music reached its limit and died
@TucoRope2Tight
@TucoRope2Tight Жыл бұрын
@@leeturton9254 Sure, lol
@gozorak
@gozorak 5 жыл бұрын
an interview of two master film directors by an intelligent host interested in facilitating interesting conversations about craft instead of catering to the audience or public expectations? Such a thing existed at one time? Why yes it did.
@carrrexx7190
@carrrexx7190 5 жыл бұрын
An example of over speak with no payoff.
@gozorak
@gozorak 5 жыл бұрын
@@carrrexx7190 you dont deserve a happy ending cause your too uptight to even know how to enjoy it
@carrrexx7190
@carrrexx7190 5 жыл бұрын
@@gozorak you're not your. English is apparently a slippery slope for you.
@gozorak
@gozorak 5 жыл бұрын
the only slippery slope you need to concern yourself with is the slippery slope of self righteous smugness which you have already tumbled down. Its sad actually
@shaid1111
@shaid1111 4 жыл бұрын
We probably shouldn't pretend that it was common or that we don't have that now. Podcasts do that pretty well for a lot of film makers. But it does make general audiences stupider that every time film makers are on talk shows they talk about loose concepts and things not related to their craft.
@worldsgreatestimpressionis6462
@worldsgreatestimpressionis6462 2 жыл бұрын
Cavett is under rated. Some may not like his often cerebral approach but he always allowed his guests to actually verbalize. Great interviewer, perhaps the greatest.
@jimlechuga3193
@jimlechuga3193 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Cavett is also very funny.
@paillette2010
@paillette2010 9 ай бұрын
He was and still is a rare breed of interviewer: he is intelligent, is engaged in a conversation, and in present in the moment to let the conversation go where it needs to go.
@Yellowshark33
@Yellowshark33 8 ай бұрын
Underrated? He's one of the most celebrated talk show hosts in history. Not sure how he would be considered "underrated"
@jimlechuga3193
@jimlechuga3193 8 ай бұрын
@@Yellowshark33 Not sure how he’s underrated? I guess that’s just something you’ll have to figure out.
@Yellowshark33
@Yellowshark33 8 ай бұрын
@@jimlechuga3193 Oh I did "figure it out." I grew up watching him and he's one of the most celebrated interviewers in television history. Just because you missed practically all of his career, I figured I'd try to enlighten you.
@tarnopol
@tarnopol 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, De Palma and Scorsese talking about Welles and Hitchcock? What film lover would want to bother with that? :)
@RoyBatty555
@RoyBatty555 5 жыл бұрын
This is like a seven course gourmet meal if ur a film lover!
@ceejay1794
@ceejay1794 5 жыл бұрын
😁
@TEDDYBEAR-le1ew
@TEDDYBEAR-le1ew 3 жыл бұрын
Lots of film lovers would, these guys are good directors...
@microtasker
@microtasker 3 жыл бұрын
a required sit at USC or NYU one could assume.
@burlhorse61
@burlhorse61 3 жыл бұрын
just an amazing insight into geniuses
@juliendunand6409
@juliendunand6409 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw de Palma laugh so much and behave like a happy human being.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
Ehhh, this is before he went and grew a beard. Look what it did to Letterman.
@richardsantanna5398
@richardsantanna5398 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first interview I've seen of him. I didn't know he was known for his grumpiness.
@terrapinalive6192
@terrapinalive6192 3 жыл бұрын
His laughter sounds girlish
@rachitsah8305
@rachitsah8305 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrapinalive6192 it sounds authentic
@rbfloyd69
@rbfloyd69 Жыл бұрын
Scorsese's cocaine does that!
@melquizedec
@melquizedec 3 жыл бұрын
PACINO: Hey Brian, how this guy Carlitos should look, man? DE PALMA: You know, many years ago I was in an interview with a friend...
@WafcPassion
@WafcPassion 5 жыл бұрын
Iconic filmmakers talking about iconic filmmakers
@ChubbyChecker182
@ChubbyChecker182 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Scorsese, the Yorkshire Ripper years
@mrkeogh
@mrkeogh 5 жыл бұрын
The coke years?
@breathefree4056
@breathefree4056 5 жыл бұрын
Now then, Now then 👅
@dtzjones7632
@dtzjones7632 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@dtzjones7632
@dtzjones7632 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrkeogh 😂😂
@hudsonsirheshicks2653
@hudsonsirheshicks2653 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@louieandtommysdiscountedit3177
@louieandtommysdiscountedit3177 5 жыл бұрын
DePalma, Scorsese, Coppola, Spielberg, Lucas...these guys were constantly inspired by each other to do better, and some of the best movies came out of it. Thanks for the many meaningful hours spent staring at a screen, guys.
@eddwardfchaos
@eddwardfchaos 5 жыл бұрын
ThisGuysAMook - That's why they make & spend the big bucks , but we're not gonna pay , we're NOT paying cause disguy (points) dis guyz a fuckin' mook !
@bebaguette766
@bebaguette766 5 жыл бұрын
Friedkin was kind of part of the gang as well.
@louieandtommysdiscountedit3177
@louieandtommysdiscountedit3177 5 жыл бұрын
Henry G Bogdanovich too, I think
@rockhero2274
@rockhero2274 5 жыл бұрын
@@eddwardfchaos Mook? Whatsa mook?
@rockhero2274
@rockhero2274 5 жыл бұрын
@@bebaguette766 Not really. Paul Schrader maybe.
@troyallen5806
@troyallen5806 5 жыл бұрын
I love this stuff! Dick Cavett was simply the best ever at interviewing.
@boosh90
@boosh90 5 жыл бұрын
him and parkinson were the boys
@ceejay1794
@ceejay1794 5 жыл бұрын
Troy- couldn’t agree more. He was a naturally inquisitive host. Always exploring more with a guest and always with a degree of respect.
@shaid1111
@shaid1111 4 жыл бұрын
He's not very good at interviewing but he is respecting the directors enough to ask them about their craft and not just what he understands.
@zapkvr
@zapkvr 4 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Thomson you "disagree" do you. Oh well that's just grand
@TheSaltydog07
@TheSaltydog07 4 жыл бұрын
@@shaid1111 so true.
@KraigOliver
@KraigOliver 5 жыл бұрын
this was a tv show. talking industry. imagine kimmel or fallon doing this?
@juffan
@juffan 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see Conan have conversations like this. He could pull it off.
@KraigOliver
@KraigOliver 5 жыл бұрын
juffan Conan could! Or Ferguson!
@Magooch86
@Magooch86 5 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett wasn't a variety host like Carson etc, he was more like Parkinson in the UK, where the focus was the interview and not all round entertainment. There are hundreds of interviews like this on KZfaq now, you don't need Kimmel or Fallon to conduct these sorts of interviews.
@markant9534
@markant9534 5 жыл бұрын
@@KraigOliver Conan would keep making jokes all the way through this interview.
@valerio1292
@valerio1292 5 жыл бұрын
it's just a different format come on... i like this format more, but i'm sure also at the time there were entertainment shows like kimmel's. and despite this, there are intelligent hosts like o'brien who can do both, buffoon and introspection
@JustAnotherBlader
@JustAnotherBlader 4 жыл бұрын
Anytime Scorsese talks it’s like someone pressed the fast forward button on his voice.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
WhatchootalkinaboutWillis?
@dildonius
@dildonius 4 жыл бұрын
That's a NYC native ITALIAN-AMERICAN cokehead for ya.
@rsuriyop
@rsuriyop 3 жыл бұрын
You should see how Spawn creator Todd McFarlane speaks, especially during his interview with Stan Lee. I'd swear I've never seen someone talk so fast without any sentence breaks. It's like a gift to be able to articulate exactly whatever's on your mind with such speed and fluidity. Those kind of people make me so jealous... Lol
@egglady
@egglady 3 жыл бұрын
Cocaine is a helluva drug haha
@NondescriptMammal
@NondescriptMammal 2 жыл бұрын
De Palma hardly let him get a word in here, Scorsese was probably thinking like "I better talk fast or I won't get to finish my thought"
@thomass1891
@thomass1891 4 жыл бұрын
Scarface was a fantastic movie. Brian De Palma did a great job
@nomalk
@nomalk 4 жыл бұрын
Scorsese seems like in he's in a turmoil by the situation. I know he and De Palma were friends but you can feel his rivalry in him. Tarantino said in so many words that after De Palma did a great film he went to see "raging bull" and said "ah.. there's always Scorsese.."
@sagarsaxena6318
@sagarsaxena6318 4 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett's interviews were so great because he tried to understand the intricacies of each guest's profession. His research was thorough and it seems he got some off-the-book kind of nuggets as well. This made his questions and the answers far more insightful than the regular interview.
@hoganholo99
@hoganholo99 5 жыл бұрын
Old interviews of Scorsese and DePalma are really eye-opening in the sense that you can see how their temperaments have evolved over decades. It seems as if modern-day Scorsese and DePalma have switched demeanors. In older interviews with Scorsese, he comes across as much more restrained and serious--in contrast, recent interviews with him show someone more candid and friendly. DePalma seems to have gone in the opposite direction. He's definitely not jaded or overly-cynical now, but I think his relationship with film critics in the 70's and 80's might have permanently soured his relationship with the media. In the 2015 documentary, "DePalma", he still appears aggrieved by the critical reception of some of his movies. Despite this, he's lost none of that brazen quality he's known for. In fact, he currently comes across as more wise and hardened. It's pretty fascinating to me how differently the film industry has affected these two.
@Daddy0os
@Daddy0os 4 жыл бұрын
As for Scorsese in the late 70's, drugs are involved.
@SX1995able
@SX1995able 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the fact that he isn't as well regarded as a Scorsese (outside of cinephile circles) has affected him
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 жыл бұрын
that's because their careers went into opposite directions ah ha
@chazzdurden
@chazzdurden 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for this comment, I thought I was the only one who noticed that, also, "no grey hair" Scorsese looks really really serious vs grey hair, black eyebrows nowadays sweet and smiley Scorsese :D that was really interesting and weird, they completely changed his attitude towards the media, is really amazing how they have evolved in their own way.
@nr655321
@nr655321 4 жыл бұрын
Taxi driver is the most important film in the history of cinema. Period. Unfortunately, past-Taxi Driver Scorsese movies are mostly duds... Which can't said about De Palma: his output is generally good through and through.
@garyking1986
@garyking1986 5 жыл бұрын
Scorsese looks like Sex Machine in From Dusk Til’ Dawn
@Rafael-le1tz
@Rafael-le1tz 5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@kargs5krun
@kargs5krun 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.......or John Travolta's priestly brother in "Saturday night Fever"
@BookClubDisaster
@BookClubDisaster 4 жыл бұрын
He looked so creepy with that beard.
@footofjuniper8212
@footofjuniper8212 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Savini.
@marksoquetjr4693
@marksoquetjr4693 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@kalyan6045
@kalyan6045 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Caveatt knows a lot about filmmaking. I would like see these kind of intelligent questions asked
@ng2603
@ng2603 4 жыл бұрын
Scorsese was so serious back in the day ... he really seemed to lighten up and relax with age. Now he cracks jokes, chuckles after everything he says, etc. Love both Scorcese versions tho
@daustin8888
@daustin8888 3 жыл бұрын
I really hate how people gave him a hard time about his comments on those Marvel films.
@ciaran6309
@ciaran6309 3 жыл бұрын
@@daustin8888 hes right🤣
@Fan_Made_Videos
@Fan_Made_Videos 3 жыл бұрын
What you don't understand that his interview happened right after Travis Bickle dropped him off at the studio.
@Hritik9000
@Hritik9000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fan_Made_Videos Do you see the women in the window. That's my wife but it's not my apartment 💀
@totalpartykill999
@totalpartykill999 3 жыл бұрын
well.... he's wealthier than God now.
@dantebad
@dantebad 3 жыл бұрын
Watching de Palma and Scorsese talk about Hitchcok and Welles techniques and camera movement, its just mesmerizing. Id had died if they mention Bergman, Fellini or Tarkovsky
@A-small-amount-of-peas
@A-small-amount-of-peas 5 жыл бұрын
Really hope the younger generation finds this show. No unnecessary audience whooping, no pre interview to set up stories. Just interesting people who know what they're doing... Talking
@BluesRiffage
@BluesRiffage 3 жыл бұрын
The young generation are getting plenty of that with podcasts.
@luisvickers2799
@luisvickers2799 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 18 if that counts as being part of the younger gen
@jiquenohnson
@jiquenohnson Жыл бұрын
@@BluesRiffage depending on the podcast I’m sure lol
@NameAC_
@NameAC_ 9 ай бұрын
You really shouldn't care about the younger generation
@walt4670
@walt4670 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear Scorsese talking about his trouble with reading and writing as a creative back then, knowing he probably never sought nor was given a dyslexia diagnosis in 1978.
@zapkvr
@zapkvr 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and diagnosis are ultimately limiting. It's why labels like autism should be resisted.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeterKKraus I don't think so. At one point, Scorsese mentions "Taxi Driver", his 1976 film.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
@@zapkvr That's very interesting; one wonders what the artistic visions of autistics might be.
@joaquincasares2895
@joaquincasares2895 4 жыл бұрын
I think your diagnose is incorrect. He said he had trouble concentrating, also his fast speed talking may suggest Attention deficit disorder. Any way this types of labels often make people think of Scorseses as better or grandiose because of having this "condition". I think it's bullshit it doesn't make him any better or worst. He's just an excellent director. Any way if someone has depression and he smiles would you see him as better or grandiose? It's only a label, it doesn't make you any better or worst.
@crazymaner2003
@crazymaner2003 4 жыл бұрын
@@joaquincasares2895 His trouble concentrating was probably because he was gorged out on drugs at this time in his life.
@tmrezzek5728
@tmrezzek5728 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Cavett is asking good questions and DePalma and Scorsese are animated and answering enthusiastically. Their explanation of the use of wide-angle lenses is terrific.
@lordofthemound3890
@lordofthemound3890 3 жыл бұрын
And, the key point is that you can tell Cavett knows his stuff-he has a common experience (though on the viewing-end of film instead of its creation) with these guys that they can intelligently discuss.
@themoreyouknowfools4974
@themoreyouknowfools4974 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordofthemound3890 that's what makes him great. Jon Stewart was doing an interview with tarantino and he didn't even know who Sergio Leone is.
@johnperrigo6474
@johnperrigo6474 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my God! They're having a conversation. On a talk show. Will wonders ever cease!
@lerm2866
@lerm2866 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool to see these two in their prime having absolutely no idea the joy and impact they would have on others for decades to come.
@nicholasdove5109
@nicholasdove5109 4 жыл бұрын
They NEVER interview directors anymore on talk shows. It's just actors and nothing else. People of this period had a grip of how a movie is made but now people just want garbage churned out on Netflix daily
@BookClubDisaster
@BookClubDisaster 4 жыл бұрын
Directors aren't auteurs anymore. They mostly are studio hacks except maybe Nolan, Tarantino, PTA, etc.
@janetmccoy2192
@janetmccoy2192 4 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Dove a Not true Charlie Rose has interviewed all of the great directors.
@Sdfghjk442
@Sdfghjk442 4 жыл бұрын
@@BookClubDisaster scorsese is still making movies you know.
@teodelfuego
@teodelfuego 4 жыл бұрын
Charlie Rose was a great interviewer.
@krisinsaigon
@krisinsaigon 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen scorsese on numerous chat shows, he still does them when he has a film out
@Light-sl9ti
@Light-sl9ti 2 жыл бұрын
Two Italians in passion of speech...
@nightmaster5593
@nightmaster5593 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett is so damn smooth! What a phenomenal interviewer! He makes it look so easy
@bskyb
@bskyb 4 жыл бұрын
I love the back and forth between De Palma and Scorsese. Great interview! They probably all went and got a beer afterwards.
@derekseven1647
@derekseven1647 4 жыл бұрын
Or a bottle of wine.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
Wait for me!
@resolving_boris
@resolving_boris Күн бұрын
I love how Cavett is so calm and level, letting the guests talk and engages with them on close to their level, as opposed to chat show hosts today.
@svjim1
@svjim1 5 жыл бұрын
The thing with Wells and Hitchcock is they didn't have a film school to teach them, they just did it.
@BradleyPaulValentine
@BradleyPaulValentine 5 жыл бұрын
Again, not to be a d/ck, but you're really posing this as some kind of advantage? I mean, it could be for all I know. But you realize the industry went for something like 50yrs without a film school turning out directors. How many Welles and Hitchcocks did we get then? In fact, the studio system itself was the film school, which probably provided better education than film schools today.
@svjim1
@svjim1 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPaulValentine My point was they had no one to emulate and came up with their own style and technique.
@IgnorancEnArrogance
@IgnorancEnArrogance 5 жыл бұрын
"I was cut off from the world. There was no one to confuse or torment me, and I was forced to become original" - Joseph Hadyn
@jacobbegley5026
@jacobbegley5026 4 жыл бұрын
You re right. That's exactly it
@nathanwalker6360
@nathanwalker6360 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking on studio systems and learning about directing, not to take away from what Hitchcock went on to further develop. But in his earlier years when he was making silent films and before then too, he spent alot of time in Germany with the directors round there. Probably people like Fritz Lang.
@capitanfuturo594
@capitanfuturo594 Жыл бұрын
Scorcese & De Palma = Two geniuses Dick Cavett = America's best host.
@aleksisuuronen5969
@aleksisuuronen5969 4 жыл бұрын
Gus Van Sant should've watched this before making the Psycho "It will have no soul"
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 жыл бұрын
I liked it though. it was a nice experiment and even Tarantino liked it
@gianca60
@gianca60 3 жыл бұрын
Please don't nominate Van Sant in a video with De Palma and Scorsese.
@gocsa
@gocsa 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't know whether Van Sant was aware of it all or not. He either pulled a huge prank on a major Hollywood studio's dime or was absolutely up his own ass. It's still a 50-50 chance for me.
@jamesoblivion
@jamesoblivion 3 жыл бұрын
Most expensive film school project ever made.
@022171
@022171 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with De Palma about The Birds. Tippi Hedren's performance kept that film from really landing for me. Hitch loved his "icy blondes". Hedren took "icy" to another level.
@griffinjurisson9119
@griffinjurisson9119 4 жыл бұрын
this is hypnotic, two geniuses, and Cavett handling them effortlessly. Media was different back then, more wholesome and effervescent
@vinylsbyqwest
@vinylsbyqwest 3 жыл бұрын
Most definitely
@paulgerardhosty9909
@paulgerardhosty9909 3 жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett is pure, unadulterated, class. Love his use of the word ‘Vertiginous’. Yes, it’s real. 😀 I don’t know when I’ll get a chance to use it, in normal conversation, but I hope it’s gonna be soon.
@Pretermit_Sound
@Pretermit_Sound Жыл бұрын
Martin Scorsese is such a ball of energy when he speaks. Like his thoughts are coming at him 10 times faster than he can get them out. de Palma looks so frickin’ young. Great discussion
@jonisafreak3
@jonisafreak3 9 ай бұрын
He was maybe a little coked up.
@Pretermit_Sound
@Pretermit_Sound 9 ай бұрын
@@jonisafreak3 could be 😉
@OGRE_HATES_NERDS
@OGRE_HATES_NERDS 8 ай бұрын
@@jonisafreak3he must have taken coke before ever interview he ever gave in his whole life lol
@WalterLiddy
@WalterLiddy 5 жыл бұрын
I love when they talk about duplicating the shots of a Hitchcock film, and DePalma points out "it would have no soul". Psycho, anyone?
@sebastiengerber146
@sebastiengerber146 5 жыл бұрын
Actually I think the remake is beautiful. It's not 100% the same film, but it's close enough to generates a strange feeling and gets a life of its own. Especially with the help of the photography of Chris Doyle, where he goes will really strong colors. It's a visual feast and one of the most interesting remake ever made.
@hippiecheezburger5457
@hippiecheezburger5457 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand who people like Welles and Hitchcock took too much influence from, sure they watched people’s films to inspire them but they really had a creative genius side to them, very innovative men
@hippiecheezburger5457
@hippiecheezburger5457 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Hill for as much as I’ve seen psycho the tension, story, and suspense plus strange subject matter thrills me to the bone every time I watch it, basically once a year
@johnfitzpatrick3094
@johnfitzpatrick3094 4 жыл бұрын
@James Schultz What I find boring is you.
@janetmccoy2192
@janetmccoy2192 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Hill I loved that DePalma paid homage to the genius that Hitchcock was.
@ethanholgate2512
@ethanholgate2512 4 жыл бұрын
Two of the greatest directors of all time two of my favourites this interview was a joy to watch
@reginaldstyles9549
@reginaldstyles9549 9 ай бұрын
Two Absolutely Amazing Directors 😊❤
@roshanramesh627
@roshanramesh627 4 жыл бұрын
This is before Raging Bull and Scarface!
@ninamc6116
@ninamc6116 3 жыл бұрын
And Goodfellas....a masterpiece
@jayaramlaxmikanthan4766
@jayaramlaxmikanthan4766 3 жыл бұрын
At least Scorsese had Taxi Driver.
@africastle94
@africastle94 4 жыл бұрын
The energies of both of these directors, given their films, is so evident. What an incredible record.
@marvwatkins7029
@marvwatkins7029 2 жыл бұрын
Two great directors discussing the technical aspects of their craft with such insight.
@charisma7312
@charisma7312 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like their personalities switched after this
@robjohnson8214
@robjohnson8214 2 жыл бұрын
What a great interview. Hearing great directors talking casually about directing.
@XavierPeypoch
@XavierPeypoch 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible. This sort of conversation is only seen when filmmakers are invited to universities nowadays..
@daviddemar8749
@daviddemar8749 4 жыл бұрын
This was golden Thanks for posting it!!
@vilentman111
@vilentman111 4 жыл бұрын
I see De Palma came in his Chevy Chase cosplay
@microtasker
@microtasker 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Brian De Palma and .... you're not.
@KiYouNeedToGrowUp
@KiYouNeedToGrowUp 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is one of the best on KZfaq. Thank you so much for opening the archives. And I was born in '95
@Constantijn09
@Constantijn09 Ай бұрын
Dick Cavett understood the art of interviewing, he really listened, which is harder than it sounds
@FormulaVase-kp3dc
@FormulaVase-kp3dc 4 жыл бұрын
1:09 The look on Scorsese's face after being interrupted.
@microtasker
@microtasker 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the guy was a teacher for so long. That's definitely his teacher face coming out.
@doninvictoria
@doninvictoria 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dick. Keep 'em coming!
@integral
@integral 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this YT channel. Cavett did some of the best, coolest, most thoughtful interviews. Is there anyone getting even close to this these days?
@atroyz
@atroyz 9 ай бұрын
Notice how they refer to Hitchcock in the present tense. The master was still working in 1978.
@FixFilmsLtd
@FixFilmsLtd 3 жыл бұрын
What a great interview - love DePalma and Scorsese's films. Brilliant to hear them speak so exquisitely about there work.
@alexdawson
@alexdawson 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview and De Palma’s career long appreciation of Hitchcock as ‘artist’ rather than ‘showman’ is great to see
@abus3od11
@abus3od11 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it going with the uploads please
@Sdfghjk442
@Sdfghjk442 4 жыл бұрын
"No matter how good you are, no matter how good you think you are, there is always Martin Scorsese" - de palma
@roberta9734
@roberta9734 5 жыл бұрын
Love all this Dick Cavett content with Scorsese/De Palma
@b4_480p
@b4_480p 4 жыл бұрын
9:02 Scorsese "It's the Editing"
@nitehunter91
@nitehunter91 4 жыл бұрын
I may be the only one to defend Tippi Hendren in "The Birds", but I'll do 'til my death.
@Whippets
@Whippets 3 жыл бұрын
A very "clean", classy and well coiffed/manicured sensual beauty to juxtapose Suzanne Pleshette's simplicity and earthiness ... I think it was brilliant casting, both of them.
@dougshelton260
@dougshelton260 3 жыл бұрын
She was perfect, and had to withstand much harassment from Hitchcock: She was actually injured by real birds during the shooting; It's still the scariest Hitchcock film, in my opinion.
@ninamc6116
@ninamc6116 3 жыл бұрын
No you won’t be. She was great!
@ninamc6116
@ninamc6116 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect person in the role!
@fenwar9060
@fenwar9060 3 жыл бұрын
@@Whippets On that point, I'll stand by you.
@GIBKEL
@GIBKEL 3 жыл бұрын
This was great....I get exactly what Dick was on about with the movement. It was part of my favorite part when leaving a movie when I was young. I always felt that I was still in the cinema experience with motion and the ideas of what comes next.....
@neezdutz7443
@neezdutz7443 3 жыл бұрын
6:53 "You can copy a film shot for shot, but it will have no soul." Sounds a lot like the live-action Disney remakes
@nikolarajkovic4595
@nikolarajkovic4595 2 жыл бұрын
They don't care. They're printing money. How dumb is making live-action Lion King and yet it's one of the most profitable movies ever made.
@SilverSurfer5150
@SilverSurfer5150 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff! De Palma and Scorsese, brilliant directors.
@samuraijacques952
@samuraijacques952 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe DePalma tried to call people out for calling attention to camera movement
@GrantTarredus
@GrantTarredus 3 жыл бұрын
Please, where can I view the rest of this episode? This is an extremely fascinating conversation. Thanks very much, and I thank the uploader for sharing this much of the show with us.
@eargasm1072
@eargasm1072 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Scorsese look like he went from Studio 54 right to Cavett's set?
@cjaquilino
@cjaquilino 4 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Baca Given that period, he probably did.
@Stoney-Jacksman
@Stoney-Jacksman 3 жыл бұрын
Is that all you know about the 70s? So cliché.
@sopranosfan11
@sopranosfan11 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney-Jacksman Lol. And then he put on some bell bottoms and made his hair into an afro and went to a disco.
@TheRubberStudiosASMR
@TheRubberStudiosASMR 4 жыл бұрын
Damn I wish we had film makers like this now. I know these two are still around but they'd be forced to direct Thor 22 or some shit.
@prowlie
@prowlie 4 жыл бұрын
Good interview ... love both directors... saw air date.. realized it was 3 months before i was born lol
@philmstud2k
@philmstud2k 5 жыл бұрын
So sad that what De Palma said about trying to perfectly replicate the success of something but it having no soul, just like with all these Disney live-action reboots.
@ilikeemerica9619
@ilikeemerica9619 5 жыл бұрын
And the shot for shot remake of psycho
@AnnaMaria-oy1fp
@AnnaMaria-oy1fp 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilikeemerica9619 Haven't seen the remake but I know that it's like a copy paste version.
@sandorx4
@sandorx4 4 жыл бұрын
Or his own far too Hitchcockesque works.
@southlondon86
@southlondon86 4 жыл бұрын
Lion King was apparently an exact copy of a 60s Japanese cartoon.
@hailalexander93
@hailalexander93 3 жыл бұрын
@@southlondon86 c'mon seriously? The Lion King is the oldest story of humanity. Kingly, noble father assassinated, The Prince is overthrown by the jealous uncle, the Prince's journey back to the crown and his birthright. Ffs read a real history book. If that's still allowed.
@ernestolombardo5811
@ernestolombardo5811 4 жыл бұрын
I can't get over DePalma without a beard, for some reason I imagined him with a perpetual beard like his comrades Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola. And just now it hit me: due to the incredible camerawork and editing, Goodfellas is our era's Citizen Kane. This may be a good short way to introduce the Orson Welles classic to those who regard old, Hayes Code black and white Hollywood films as stilted and boring.
@scampoli25
@scampoli25 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me you have more of this interview
@m0jumb0
@m0jumb0 5 жыл бұрын
they have all of it. they're just trickling it out :)
@ChooseCompassion
@ChooseCompassion Жыл бұрын
Dick Cavett was a part of our household forever growing up and after. He is a thoughtful, insightful, highly intelligent with whit and charm to boot. Not to mention good looking and cooler than he thought he was. I’m so grateful that this channel exists to be able to go back and watch the ones I loved it and the ones I missed. Thank you!
@holle9394
@holle9394 2 жыл бұрын
really great one
@franklippert4278
@franklippert4278 4 жыл бұрын
6:32 and onward: why remaking a Hitchcock movie is a bad idea: such a thing wouldn't have a soul. Take that, Gus van Sant!
@infiniteuniverse9528
@infiniteuniverse9528 3 жыл бұрын
Dressed to Kill by DePalma was brilliant. The Birds by the master Hitchcock, freaked me out nearly as much as Jaws did.
@danmcdaid
@danmcdaid Жыл бұрын
What Dick is talking about at 4:49 is what we now call the Tetris effect. Repeated patterns that the visual cortex retains.
@shaun5944
@shaun5944 2 жыл бұрын
A great interview by a great host and two great film 🎥 directors, these guys are so creative, especially De Palmer, you can tell by he's excitement and enthusiasm on the subject of films 🎥 👍👋🇬🇧
@MRWest638
@MRWest638 4 жыл бұрын
It was Gregg Toland the DP who put the ceilings on sets. You can see this films shot by Toland that predate Citizen Kane , like the Grapes of Wrath made a year before.
@mikekemp9877
@mikekemp9877 4 жыл бұрын
well said there are ceilings in stagecoach too.in fairness it is said about orsen welles not by him.when asked the influences that most affected him im making citizen kane he said the old masters by which i mean john ford john ford and john ford all i did was copy the best.
@haupper
@haupper 4 жыл бұрын
When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.
@DieFilmshow
@DieFilmshow 4 жыл бұрын
06:31 funny as 20 years on, that is EXACTLY what they did with "Psycho" - and of course, the failed.
@dariussparkes7080
@dariussparkes7080 Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant segment.
@lordofthemound3890
@lordofthemound3890 3 жыл бұрын
So good. I wish it went on a few more hours.
@user-iv9xw3vs6c
@user-iv9xw3vs6c 4 жыл бұрын
Scorsese talks so slowly, I almost fell asleep
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE good sarcasm!
@markreynolds1436
@markreynolds1436 4 жыл бұрын
Waddayatalkingabout?
@stevebutler812
@stevebutler812 4 жыл бұрын
Mel Brooks did that: High Anxiety the camera under the glass table looking up.
@kennethlatham3133
@kennethlatham3133 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that coffee table scene, too, while they were talking, lol!
@kevinr.3542
@kevinr.3542 4 жыл бұрын
There's another movie too, where it's really exaggerated. Glass table, with perfectly placed glasses everywhere that frames the characters perfectly. It wasn't a great movie, some crime drama. Can't think of the name, just one actor in it and he's not that famous
@SidLaw500
@SidLaw500 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome post!
@Newtman98
@Newtman98 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Depalma says they don’t draw attention to themselves with camera movements when they’re both really well known and admired for their unique and innovative camera movements.
@alexd2555
@alexd2555 5 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been absolutely incredible if these legends would have co-directed a movie together
@zyrrhos
@zyrrhos 5 жыл бұрын
Nah, the best films come from a singular artistic vision.
@marydestefano9487
@marydestefano9487 Жыл бұрын
@@zyrrhos LOL. The best films are the products of dozens of collaborators.
@zyrrhos
@zyrrhos Жыл бұрын
@@marydestefano9487 I work in TV & film as a writer/director. It does take a lot of people to make a film, but the best ones come from the singular artistic vision of (typically) the director.
@johnk5398
@johnk5398 9 ай бұрын
When you consider that they critiqued eachothers scripts and dailys over the years , all these guys did kind of collaborate on each others projects
@gnewt75
@gnewt75 5 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful interview!! Mr DePalma please let Marty speak a little more!!
@fredsalfa
@fredsalfa 5 жыл бұрын
2 Legends. Love all their films
@SpaceCattttt
@SpaceCattttt 5 жыл бұрын
Really? Then I suppose you wet your pants whenever your eyes take in the magic of Kundun and The Black Dahlia?
@johnjackson7045
@johnjackson7045 3 жыл бұрын
2 legends talking about 2 legends.respect
@aidan738
@aidan738 4 жыл бұрын
i liked it when they actually talked on talk shows
@colin7225
@colin7225 4 жыл бұрын
De palma, scorcese, de niro, pesci, pacino, a golden generation, the should be looked back on with great respect like, james cagney etc.
@SnowGiant.9
@SnowGiant.9 4 жыл бұрын
Great interview. 🍺🍺🍺🍺
@Marubi2
@Marubi2 4 жыл бұрын
This is gold
@Marcusx1980
@Marcusx1980 5 жыл бұрын
Gold! So weird to see De Plama being goofy here. Young yes but different
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