KZfaq forced me to cut the section that plays SleepWalking otherwise the video would be blocked worldwide. This isn't a glitch, its just the sound of Fair Use dying.

They have a song called “Heavy metal” which directly addresses fans being upset at them for abandoning their early style. recent songs like dear diary proves that they can still be metal when they want to.

Suicide Season is still one of my favorite albums of all time

post human is an incredible EP and you can't convince me otherwise. it shows they can still be heavy and energetic whilst experimenting with whatever the hell they want on top wether its old school thrash solos or Jpop type choruses or alt metal revival songs that add just enough linkin park influence to consider them fresh and new takes on that sound. the songs also embrace modern pop production in the best way to add different textures and pristine sound design ro the record.

How can one resist the urge to sing along to that gnarly "ghyaaaaa" at the start of Pray for Plagues?

I got into BMTH around their genre shift and I feel like it only made me appreciate their older stuff more in the long run. Long live my scene phase and the influence its had on my taste in music.

I really respect your point of view. You didn't just hate the shit out of the "newer" BMTH stuff like a lot of "old" BMTH fans do. I got into BMTH's music during the That's The Spirit era. Sempiternal is easily one of my top 5 favorite albums ever. What I love about BMTH is that they basically can play any genre and it becomes good music. I personally think that they deserve all their success. Following BMTH's career became kind of a journey at this point. At least for me. Thank You for this excellent video💪

There is a hell... Set a new standard to the entire scene at the time for how real and intricate a heavy metal band could be 🖤✨

I remember hearing the sadness will never end for the first time in highschool and been a fan ever since. Also they wrote Drown, in my eyes they can do no wrong.

“they have no reflections” holds the famous line where they mention the bands name. “Do not change the subject, Let’s go chase the sunset. BRING ME THE HORIZON….. BRING ME THE HORIZON”

_There Is A Hell..._ was and still is a fucking masterpiece, and I really don't remember it getting any attention back then, let alone positive attention, but I guess I'm just misremembering that period. Crucify Me, Home Sweet Hole, & Visions in particular got me through some shit back then and have continued to do so since. I didn't really care for _Sempiternal_ then and even today, although Sleepwalking is incredible and cuts deep, and I will say that I did like a lot of the sonic themes of the album. _That's The Spirit_ was/is still a favorite that I got a lot out of and still enjoy to this day. And even after they continued to shift, every new album had a couple of songs that I fell in love with, and those songs were always something different thematically & stylistically. They've definitely become a band that I have zero expectations of but that I'm sure are going create something that just connects with me.

Post Human is one of my favourite musical projects of 2020. I think if bands stay with the same style they get called boring one trick ponies but if they switch styles and evolve people call them sellouts or complain. It's hard to win as a band!

I really love the old stuff, but Im not complaining about what they make today I still like this and I love the heavier stuff they used to release

Count Your Blessings & Suicide Season were the best BMTH albums in my opinion... I got into BMTH music in between those eras... They were absolutely badass back in those days...

I just want to meet someone who loves all of their albums/eps/unreleased tracks equally, as I genuinely do and will always appreciate their diversity

28:45 bro you did oily so dirty I love it

One thing is that this band's every record is actually sounds different and worth listening. I really love this band

Massive respect for representing There Is A Hell & Heaven as their magnum opus, twas the first album that actually got me into them and Suicide Season 😁 That album felt like a midpoint between their old and new sound, and despite the albums after not having the same emotional impact, Sempiternal had one of their best song writing anthems which made them one of the most popular Metalcore/Post-Hardcore bands around 🙏 And finally there's the latest EP they put out which felt like not only a throwback to their heavier roots (mixed in with new modern electronics/production) but also a nostalgia trip for us Linkin Park fans with some of the obvious Nu-Metal/Alt Rock inspirations they put on that release. I can see why peeps would label them as a "Pop Rock" band but given how much genre experimentation they do, calling them just pop is a disservice for the amount of effort and progression they've accumulated in not only songwriting/production, but even Oli's improved vocals...just a shame that we won't ever get another Suicide Season/Hell & Heaven type of album from them again 😅

I found this band through Chelsea smile and I still love that song and the following two albums. Sempiternal is the most metalcore of them and it’s my favorite because of how catchy and ear wormy the songs are. I still get shadow Moses stuck in my head to this day. Early BMTH is so good

As someone who loves almost everything this band has put out since Suicide Season (amo/go to is a bit of a meh moment) i loved hearing you praise Sleep With One Eye Open, to me that is one of the hardest going songs i have heard. I’d really like if BMTH returned to a even heavier sound than post human, it would be just epic hearing a There Is a Hell sounding album mixed with their modern songwriting.

I got into them Sempiternal era, so I never really felt the "shift" in their sound. but I probably would've reacted the same as you had I been an earlier fan lol. although, I did feel a "shift" when they released amo. all in all, I think they're one of the most interesting bands out there, and I'm honestly glad they changed, and are still evolving with every record they put out, whether it was a hit or miss. regardless of whether it was good or bad, I always got something out of it and I never got bored, which to me, shows their passion and determination in making music. add to that, their uncertainty when the next record comes out- no one expected the TTS sound, and no one definitely expected the Survival Horror sound after they released amo. funny enough, amo made me appreciate their older records, which in turn, made me appreciate amo more. and to me personally, their discography as whole resonates with me. hated back then because they weren't heavy enough, hated NOW because they're not heavy anymore. cut deep tbh- despite listening and shouting to so many metal songs now, i didn't feel that much part of the scene, and I definitely did NOT feel part of the pop, hip-hop mainstream trend scene. so everytime I didn't feel "secure" or confident enough to listen to, idk say Drake, or Slipknot, I'd always go to BMTH. obviously it doesn't matter if my opinion doesn't resonate with you, nor if I don't with yours, but one thing's for sure: BMTH is one of the most unique, persevering, and daring bands out there now, and I think they'll continue to be. PS, the breakdown in Anthem at 3:25 is *p h e n o m e n a l .* their BEST breakdown and imma die on that hill

I fell in love with the band with their new stuff specifically that's the spirit. Their old stuff never caught my attention 'cause I used to think they where like another generic core band but later I realized how wrong I was, still prefer their new stuff tho haha

You’re so right - there is a hell is a straight up metal masterpiece. I love sempiternal too… that’s like the black album in crossover appeal + massive tunes. Much respect to the guys + thanks for this great vid!

this was a great vid. As somebody who loves Sempiternal though, it sounds like you're talking about that record like it's Amo. I listen to the Deluxe version... and for a record of that length there's no filler. I love There is a Hell and Sempiternal

I’m just traveling through your channel! Haha. This is a great video. Suicide Season was my critical album back in the album’s hay day

I am a big fan of BMTH and it's good to see someone saying they were more metal before without shitting on their new stuff, it could bring more people to learn what they've done before Sempiternal, but it's obvious they don't like doing this stuff anymore (but sometimes they play early work during shows and it sounds fucking great)

Sempiternal is what got me into the band, but eventually I checked out their older, more deathcore and death metal influenced stuff. While Post-Human Survival Horror is my favorite album of theirs, I’m glad I checked out their older work cause it’s also great

i love there is a hell so much, right when you played "crucify me" I started moving my head left to right

I love all of their stuff even though I hated AMO at the start, however the EP up until Sempiternal will always be my favourite. I was lucky enough to see them do an old medley in Melbourne a few years ago. If you haven't seen, they did a throwback set a few months ago in Malta. Awesome setlist that has some good vids on youtube if you want to see how they do it now, Oli can defs still scream. Great video mate!

I got into BMTH right after the release of Shadow Moses as a single and it intrigued me so much, that I dove straight into their discography. Their first releases didn't do much for me, admittedly, as I was never a deathcore fan, but Suicide Season and especially There is a Hell had me hooked, which surprised me, because at the time I wasn't much into heavier, "screamy" music. When Sempiternal was leaked one month before its scheduled release and I got to hear it for the first time... man, what an experience. The music made me feel things I had never felt before and to this day I consider it my all time favourite album. The shift in sound was quite massive and it only made me appreciate them more for how well they did it, as I understand the need to evolve. In my case, it was their next two releases that made me distance myself. However, some years after the release of amo I finally decided to give it the chance it deserved and absolutely fell in love with it. Can't say I'm as excited about them as I was in 2013, but I still enjoy their music and I appreciate them as musicians and for how versatile and influential they have proven themselves to be.

i started in middle school from their demos/count your blessings, and i was a song writer as well prob one of the few bands I still follow them till this day because they were ALWAYs ahead of the curve and how better their writing over time

Got into them with Sempiternal, then I listened to their previous records and EP after with an appreciation but ultimately I preferred Sempiternal and to this day I go back to it much more often that their others, and still feel like it was a climax point of them realizing the uniqueness of their sound and style. With previous records having some growing pains, and the following records leaning too far in one direction when Sempiternal was kinda their sweet spot of heavy with more mainstream contemporary elements blended together to make a truly unique album, imo at least. I still like elements from all sides of their catalogue old and new.

Thank you for creating this piece of art. I loved every last bit of it and I'm also a big fan of their metal music. It seems that I have found my people.

personally, I think every bmth album after count your blessings is worth a listen. there is a hell and sempiternal are two of the best metalcore records ever released - suicide season and survival horror are both extremely fun, if a little inconsistent - while that’s the spirit is a very good arena rock album and amo is absolutely phenomenal as a pop record. music to listen to is also incredible and doesn’t get the love it deserves, and I’m really liking the pop punk direction they’re going in now. I kinda like edge of your seat, but I despise count your blessings. sure, I appreciate it, without it we wouldn’t have 90% of the deathcore scene today, and I love me some deathcore - but I just think it’s a shite record. inconsistent playing, cringey lyrics, poor songwriting - young guys who didn’t really give a shit. there’s novelty to it, but I don’t think there’s much quality.

I got into them when I heard I used to make out w/ Medusa. But I disagree with you. Sempiternal is an awesome album. It defined Metalcore to this day. Everyone compares albums by newer bands to sempiternal or holy hell by architects which I would say had a lot of inspiration from sempiternal. After that, it was pretty much downhill with some high points here and there.

Very informal and entertaining video Nobody ever does a history of these guys, do a Falling In Reverse one

They are still very much metal, their last album, post human, is very much metal. They are just so talented they will do whatever the F they want to as well.

A slight adjustment to the meaning behind the song suicide season. It's actually singing to his friend who's father killed himself. After his friends father killed himself, his friend went down a really dark park, and became a pretty bad person, and even started stealing from the band. This is reinforced by the last lines in the song "if only sorrow could build a staircase or tears could show the way, we could climb our way to heaven and bring him back to you. Because if you got him back, I would get back the friend that I once knew." Great video over all though

Thank you for this video. BMTH was a big part of my younger me and they helped me develope (musically) to the person i am today.

I remember they played warped tour 2012 in NJ and I did not know who they were. I stumbled into their set and found myself inside the pit THE SECOND Shadow Mose's into breakdown hit....ive been a fan ever since

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I listened to them when their four track demo came out back in the day. A female friend of mine made me a mixed cd(those were the days) and had one of those songs on it(re: they have no reflections) and it totally changed everything for me. Listened to them up until S. Season and then lost the thread and stopped caring. Crazy they are going mainstream 😂 what kind of dystopian nightmare is this?!?

Count your blessings was their best album to me. Nostalgia helps this. The guitar playing was their best and most iconic sound.

i love your videos, first you made me check out (and fall in love) with severslvt (nice background music you've got there, haha) and then you talk about one of my favorite bands? and you say there is a hell is the best, better than sempiternal?? god, being a music fan can be so great at times! by the way, do you maybe plan doing a video on Architects? i literally would KILL to watch you cover my all-time favorite, especially All Our Gods. but if not then that's fine, i'll gladly watch your other stuff. have an amazing day and, if you're feeling like it, keep up the good work!

I fucking LOVE “There is a hell…”to death. To the point where I learned how to scream/growl Crucify me, Alligator Blood, Fuck, and It Never Ends as well as learn how to play each of those songs on guitar along with Anthem and Blessed With a Curse. This album changed my life for the better. Seriously one of my top 3 favorite albums of all time yo. 🤘🏻

Another amazing one, keep up the great work man! Hope the algorithm picks this one up ;)

been a fan since suicide season - love everything they ever made. ofc SS and CYB are classics at this point but still new songs are amazing

Saw the myspace logo and felt a wrench in my stomach... Wow its been 84 years...

Sadly those who can do the kind of vocals this music brings, eventually they will lose their ability unless they are extremely careful. Vocalists have changed their sound due to their vocals being worn out. Bands like BMTH, Asking Alexandria and the like made major changes in their sound, but some other bands like Parkway Drive and While She Sleeps have been able to continue, but even they won't keep it up forever.

Now I want to hear you talk about Survival Horror and how you feel about how they approach heavy music when they feel like it now.

Suicide season to Sempiternal was literal perfection, but they’ve always been ahead of the curve

Hell yeah dude! I loved their early deathcore days! These guys one of the bands that got me into deathcore along with Suicide Suicide! Really takes me back man.. Cool channel dude!🤘

I am a new fan of BMTH, and I didn't know they went this far into metal. Imma listen to some of their older albums because as much as I love Sempiternal and That's the Spirit, crucify me sounded like raw emotions

Mann first Pornography and now this? You have a great music taste man! Thank you for making a rad video about some rad albums!:D

there is a hell is their masterpiece

Your channel deserves way more subs dude keep up the great content!

Would love to watch a video like this on Asking Alexandria.

Great video.

the change happened when oli started doing a frank carter impression, I saw them back in the day with Hondo Maclean and shaped by fate supporting bleeding through, the two welsh bands blew them offstage that night!

I still own their frist EP and saw them live in Ireland during a tour of their second album. Still have the first merch from Drop Dead

5:35 You are right indeed, there was an interview with Lee where he said that when they started out they just wrote stuff to make people mosh-pit, I can't remember the exact interview but you can clearly hear it that the songs were stupidly and ironically heavy (one thing that comes to mind is the "DA DA DA" in "Off The Heezay" before the breakdown at about 1:25 of the song, it's just fun when bands write heavy stuff without taking themselves too seriously).

The first concert I've seen was BMTH the day suicide season came out in NJ. They played with the ghost inside. The stage was so low people were just climbing up and jumping off. It was mayhem Oli had to stop singing because the crowd just got way too intense. My classmate got crushed against the front of the stage and brought out by an ambulance. It was amazing and absolute lunacy hahaha

YES! someone talked about blacklist! yes! i thought I was the only one that knew and loved that song

Also, “RE: They Have No Reflections” is in the structure of a returned subject on MySpace/ email. Hence, the “RE”. “Response to email “they have no reflections” . The only thing I’m aware of that has no reflection is a Vampire but I’m not sure what the lyrics are anything related to a vampire. The lyrics are about stabbing someone with a knife

I miss those days so much in my teen days I am thankful I was there in that era and enjoy the crazy music we had especially the og deathcore scene. But since I move pass my emo phase and got into other bands like signs of the swarm, distant and mental cruelty etc just the heavier stuff. But also crazy I been open minded towards other music types. I am bout be 28 next month and boy whenever I put on bmth album Suicide season I go into a trip of teen me handbanging and gonna be doing the same w my children once they’re walking.

Any chance you’ll cover Eyes Set To Kill? Definitely a band that peaked way too soon in their career and have been struggling ever since with constant line up changes to this day

Used to drive around town blasting "braille" and thinking we were hot shit. Lmao mellowed out a lot and didn't listen to them for years and rediscovered their new stuff a few years ago listening to alt stuff at work. I'm here for it all. 🤷‍♀️

This is the BMTH I fell in love with back in middle school

I miss their older stuff. I remember finding pray for plagues when I was 15 at the start of my metal rabbit hole and just being like wow music can get so much heavier. But I’m happy they are still successful regardless.

I first heard them for Suicide Season, but never gave it much of a chance. I didn't pay attention to them... Then I heard Shadow Moses. I ended up listening to Sempiternal all the time into That's the Spirit. Listened to that a ton. At that point is where I really went back into discovering their entire LP catalog. Now I love their work across the board...all phases of heaviness and lack thereof. There is a Hell may be my favorite BMTH record and when it was released I had just ignored it. By getting into their stuff so out of order, I think their sound shifts didn't bother me like other people that felt betrayed or something like the band changing sound was a personal afront or something

I actually started listening to deathcore because of them. Suicide Season was already out and I heard to that album first I always liked their earlier work too as it was my introduction to the deathcore 😂😅 everybody used to hate them back then, look at them now

what about post human survival horror? That entire album is heavy and that's their newest full project

Great video man! BMTH are one if my most fav bands ever. I really like That’s the Spirit and AMO as well tho!

as a "skramz" and emoviolence elitist, i severely disagree with the assertion that They Have No Reflections would be considered Skramz if it came out today. It's pretty quintessentially Deathcore. Skramz (which is a term that refers to first wave screamo and emoviolence bands, or modern bands that seek to emulate their sound) has very scant if any metal influence, and most of the best bands of that era have their roots in the hardcore, grindcore, and powerviolence scenes, NOT metal. the best modern skramz/emoviolence band is Loma Prieta (in my opinion), and their music could not be more straightforwardly hardcore punk; there is essentially no metal influence in their music. id go so far as to say that there is considerably more post-rock and noise influence in the broader screamo sphere than metal influence, which is especially true for bands like portraits of past, pg99, saetia, and orchid. the screaming in deathcore is a vestige of hardcore punk, but screaming does not necessarily indicate that a genre is in any way currently associated with it.

Just wondering what do you think of Post-Human/Survival Horror?

Goddamn is Chelsea smile a great song ....uuuhh yeah !!! GREAT video bro !!!

I loved “black and blue” and “alot like vegas”.. but mostly I agree other than that ;) At the time the following album suicide season, was hated on big time. I recall that. However, there were still some good tracks on there. There is a hell, now that album was solid.. I thought! I like hearing your opinion though, and it’s great editing man :) nice research

Man, I was a fan of the band, I got into them a little before sempiternal. They’re one of the reasons I started listening to harder music. Wasn’t the biggest fan before that. Alligator blood is amazing, and don’t go are top notch. Diamonds are forever was the first ever track I listened to by them. Shadow Moses has a great video for how simple it was. Two cameras side by side, and switching the scene in post. Same thing happened in humble as well by Kendrick Lamar. My favorite line is where the drop is “THIS IS SANDPITTURTLE! Will we ever see the end!” I will say I do like two songs on the newest album “kingslayer” and the “interlude” to that track. Can’t listen to kingslayer without it, not as hype imo. I’m not very nostalgic to them, but I do like the older tracks compared to the newer ones, just like you said “just generic song structure” which happens if you want to survive as a band, not many musical groups get away from being original (not saying there isn’t” if you want to survive and make a living you kinda have to present yourself in that manner to stay around. Now onto real business. Where’s the list of music for your talking segments, and when’s the listening party?

early bmth were my first taste of the hard stuff, i like most of their newer music, but just like you, count your blessings, suicide season and TIAH were basically my party music from year 11 right through college, i'm not sure if i'd love these 3 albums as much if i hadn't been at the age i was (in 2006 i would have been 14) but thanks to being there at the best time for me to get it i hold them very dear, as i'm sure for younger fans some of their later records would be.

Favorite song: Off The Heezay from CYB (3:48 riff is the hardest thing Lee ever wrote and it goes for like 40 seconds ) Nihilist Blues from AMO

WE WILL NEVER SLEEP CUZ SLEEP IS FOR THE WEAK WE WILL NEVER REST TILL WERE ALL FUCKING DEAD

suicide season has a meshuggah feel to it

I am happy they didn't went full pop after ammo. My favorite record of BMTH is sempiturnal. A perfect blend of hardcore and electronic sounds. Overall i respect bands which trying new sounds. Big shifts are important for true artists. Standing still in art means death. For everyone who hates changes, they allways can go back and listen to their older works.

BMTH are still sick AF. I fell in love with Drown when it came out!

"Shadow Moses" still goes pretty hard

i’m so glad ur talking abt this too🥹

Great video! I saw Bring Me The Horizon and A Day To Remember on tour together 12 years ago after both bands dropped their new albums ADTR with Homesick and BMTH with There Is A Hell Believe Me and it’s still the best show I’ve ever seen! As time has gone on and both bands have changed and outgrown their older music only BMTH newer music has grown on me unlike ADTR’s newer music.

Yeah I saw them live in 2008 right after they released the suicide season album

It's funny how in retrospect a band like Metallica gets roasted for "selling out" for making groove metal (Black Album) and hard rock (Load and Reload) while BMTH goes full on pop and it's celebrated as a huge artistic achievement lol

its crazy because even jordan is out of the band.

knew all this shit before you made a Channel my dude haha

Honestly CYB is my favorite album from bmth. I like all the songs except fifteen fathoms and slow dance. Tbh I overplayed Pray For Plagues do I don't enjoy it as much but I love every other song on this album. The riffs are incredibly fun to play coming from a guitar player. As well as just great songs to practice and scream along to. Black & Blue, Liquor and Love Lost, Vegas, Medusa, Heezy, like man I really wanna do full instrumental and vocal covers of all of these now.

I still enjoy their new stuff, especially post-human, but there is a hell is just on another level. The production quality is perfect, the lyrics hit deep and the songs are bloody awesome. Crucify Me, It Never Ends, Don't Go and Blessed with a Curse have super emotional melodies, Alligator Blood, Visions and Blacklist just go so hard. I'm a relatively new fan that only got into them around 2018, and I wish I was there for their peak. I wish they still made metalcore :(

Yeah I too remember when they were actually good

I have "this is what the edge of your seat was made for" cover tattoed on my arm. I love this album to this date, however im still fan of their new stuff not less.

Can't agree more with what you are saying. Great video subbed!

I want a video almost exactly like this but for Asking Alexandria 😭

what’s the song in the background while he’s talking about count your blessings 8:42

Great video man! i disagree with what you said about Jordan at 29:45. You can search The Downbeat Podcast with Jordan as a guest and hear for yourself he wasnt "thE rEaSOn" why they ve gone more electronic/experimental/pop etc.

The guys are talented and extremally proficient at aping trends. If you asked them to put some Stockhausen in a song, they'd probably come up with something. I didn't discover them until the "Can You Feel My Heart" days (which I thought was some good songwriting). My overall reaction to their oeuvre is it can be inconsistent. When they hit it, though, they're pretty brilliant.