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British Rail Network SouthEast-DMU cab ride Pt 1 Barking to Leytonstone High Rd 1990

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Soi Buakhao

Soi Buakhao

4 жыл бұрын

A BR cab view vid now on the Barking to Gospel Oak line. A view from the front of a class 117 DMU from Barking to Gospel Oak. Part 1 shows the route from Barking to Leytonstone High Road. At this time the route was controlled from manual signal boxes with plenty of semaphores. Leytonstone itself didn't even have any track circuits for its station limits! It was switched out and eventually abolished in the early 1990s. The route now is thriving and has a much better train service, a lot more signals and new stock (at last!). If you liked the video please subscribe to my channel, there are lots more transport & quirky vids to upload!

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@squarewheelsorguk
@squarewheelsorguk 4 жыл бұрын
Lots of atmosphere. The jointed rails, the oily track, the vacuum brake, the unkempt stations, the slamming doors... The network has improved greatly over the intervening 3 decades, but it’s nice to be reminded of some of the character that has become lost too. You have a great treasure trove of old footage!
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It has been in hiding for 30 plus years so thanks to technology we can all share it and see times past. For some memories of happier times, for others a time thay never saw....happy days!
@davidrogers891
@davidrogers891 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Leytonstone stn was rebuilt as shown in the vid following WW2 damage just after I was born, but I do remember the 2 goods loops that ran behind the Barking platform at Leytonstone and the points where the loops joined the main line (where the grass is next to the subway), not forgetting the wagon lift behind the points to allow trucks to drop the the goods yard below. The Kentish Town Platform gave a splended view of Leytonstone football ground. I also remember Wansted and Woodgrange park stations as they were before they were pulled down in the late 60's and very nice they was as well. I also remember a parcel DMU going towards barking about 8.30am each day used to see that on the way to school. On bank holidays in the 60's there was often a loco haulled passenger train towards barking I guess it was a special from somewhere to Southend. on a hot Sunday or bank holiday trains were often lengthed to cope with eastenders going to the southend for the day All in all a great video , many thanks for posting it
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome! It was my local line and my house used to back onto it near Browning Road Bridge, i grew up to the sound of pairs of 37s thrashing away, shaking the whole house when pulling away from a nearby signal, along with lots of other locos, DMU's, EMU's and the odd railtour a HST 125 LTSR tour included! Yes, it got very run down in the 1970s, i think the pass service hung just because the whole route was needed for freight, if it wasn't it might well have shut. Now of course it's thriving, i shall have to pay a visit and film it now!
@paulconner115
@paulconner115 4 жыл бұрын
Soi Buakhao an HST 125? I wonder where that would have gone to?
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulconner115 It came ECS from Bounds Green to Southend Central. In March 1981 it ran a special LTSR 125th Anniversary run to Liverpool Street via Tilbury. The return ran via Upminster, i was on the train and we had special permission to run at 100mph from Barking to Upminster! The HST ran the tour in down time from ECML duties.
@djpeekay25
@djpeekay25 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad used to take this to work. He did the full route, then changed onto to the North London Link to Hampstead Heath. Thanks for this great memories
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Keep an eye out for the last two parts to complete the run. Have you seen this video of mine? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qLh2jMmSztW-pY0.html.....it shows the North London Line back when it had 2-EPB's running on it....
@Richardsrailway
@Richardsrailway 4 жыл бұрын
Leytonstone born and bred . I left school in 1991 and I clearly remember the semaphore signals on this line and the DMU’s ,
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Yes it was quite a run down sort of operation but a real treasure trove for enthusiasts! I will have part two up tomorrow.
@articeddie5494
@articeddie5494 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Routemaster at 7:20 Great video from a very run down line, nice to see it survive and now Overground 👍🏼
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
I hope to revisit it soon and film what it's like today.
@clarky2356
@clarky2356 4 жыл бұрын
Gospel oak barking line how I remember it the smell of the diesel in the carriage oil covered tracks old stations and of course the old dmu ahhhh nostalgia
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, quite a time piece this upload (and the two to follow!). I rode on the line as it was my local line, indeed my house backed onto it near Browning Road Bridge, i could see the old RT buses passing over the bridge as well as all the BR trains. What with this and the old R & CO/CP stock at East Ham Underground (again that had its own smell/aroma to it) it's no wonder i've spent my life chasing/working buses, trains & underground!!!
@clarky2356
@clarky2356 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I'll look forward to the next videos of the gospel oak line it's amazing how it looks now to back then
@1973ts
@1973ts 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, I look forward to the next instalment. The transformation on this line is incredible.
@davidrogers891
@davidrogers891 4 жыл бұрын
yes it is I remember when it was 1 train per hour each way and down for closure in the beeching plan.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidrogers891 It's a real time piece. To see how the line has changed in the last 30 years is amazing.....
@Robotnik
@Robotnik 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo the gethinkan (memories) here. Leytonstone is mine neighbourhood and I miss these Trains; big, roomy and strong engines. Many thanks for this!
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Look out for part two this weekend.....
@keef71
@keef71 2 жыл бұрын
@0:58 In the siding is the Generator Coach 321047, used to provide power for signalling during maintenance/emergency, sat there for years - i remember reading about it in the '80s but the first time I've actually noticed it! Was one of the earliest Mk1 coaches, RFO number E3
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that coach well.......
@DanielsUKT
@DanielsUKT 4 жыл бұрын
Great video showing parts of the goblin line back in 1990 and also the trains back then I wonder if they had to demolish loads of houses around forest gate Leytonstone Walthamstow areas etc to make space for this line
@davidrogers891
@davidrogers891 4 жыл бұрын
Yes a number of houses were pulled down to make way for the railway some were not very old
@DanielsUKT
@DanielsUKT 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidrogers891 oh right
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielsUKT So demolishing new houses to build a railway is nothing new then, all HS2 is doing is repeating history......
@mitchellgiffard1978
@mitchellgiffard1978 Ай бұрын
Miss the silverlink metro services that operated before up until 2007.
@AlfaRomeo128
@AlfaRomeo128 4 жыл бұрын
great A-D-C stock motor sound and Westinghouse braking system
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
The DMU braking system was vacuum rather than an air system. That screech of air you hear is the brake valve letting air into the brake pipe and destroying the vacuum thus applying the brakes. There was no electricals as such, the drive system was like a Routemaster bus in part, you put them in gear, revved them up until max revs, shut off, revs dropped, then move into next gear, all semi auto! Great fun to drive....and stop!
@Greenslade117
@Greenslade117 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was surprised to see a class 117 working this in 1990, as I thought they only migrated to GOBLIN when replaced by Turbos on the Great Western, around ‘92. Clearly some had moved earlier. I think it’s a class 104 passed at 08.40, so obviously a period of transition.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
The reason a 117 appeared is simple....Old Oak Common supplied the DMU's for the line! I have vid of a bubble car working it once, i imagine Old Oak put out anything that moved in order to keep the service running!
@cedriclynch
@cedriclynch Жыл бұрын
This unit L705 was on the line for two or three months, I think while one of the 104s was away being overhauled. Earlier there was a guest unit T305 for some months; am I right in thinking that this was normally used in Birmingham? There was also for a time a class 101 L700, which I think had just been overhauled and was in a condition like new, which soon moved to the Cambridge to King's Lynn line on which electrification work was under way but not yet complete. I remember on one occasion two trains being cancelled and the next one being a "bubble car" which was extremely crowded to the extent that the guard could not move along it to sell tickets to anybody who had not already got one. The use of "bubble cars" on this line was very unusual but it did occasionally happen.
@OlafProt
@OlafProt 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the brakes. I lived in Dorking and 119s (i think - 3 car versions of these?) working the Reading-Tonbridge line most of the 80s. They replaced the Tadpole 'thumper' units. If the driver didnt have his blinds closed you could sit right at the front seat (and he wasnt driving from the 1st Class end!) and watch him hitting the AWS and applying the brakes etc.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 2 жыл бұрын
The old slam door DMU's had Vacuum brakes which had their own unique sound when air was put back into the brake pipe......
@saltspringrailway3683
@saltspringrailway3683 4 жыл бұрын
So much of this I enjoy. Tons of character and glad to hear it is thriving.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
A route that clung on happily. When Travelcards came into being and people could travel on BR and Underground on one ticket it's usage went up!
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 4 жыл бұрын
This another great video. I was in my mid twenties about then. Lines like this, the Kenny Belle, and the North London Line, Richmond to North Woolwich were really the Cinderella lines of London. I made a point of riding this route just before the class 150s took over. The change in ridership from then to now is staggering. It's easy to say, the service reflects the demand. But, quite often, it's the demand that is a reflection of the level of service, or lack of it. Look at Tweedbank in Scotland. No trains, so technically zero demand. Now ridership is about three times what the 'experts' projected it would be.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 4 жыл бұрын
Similar to the trans-pennine stoppers. A skeleton service back in the 70s, albeit with some traction haulage and buffet facilities. Now, reopened stations and commuter trains bursting at the seams.
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 4 жыл бұрын
@@borderlands6606 Yup. Definitely busting. I now live in the North West, and have used the odd TP service in the Liverpool and Manchester area. 350s and 185s jamb packed. 185s are the worst. Not designed for standing commuters, hardly any hand grips or rails. I can see TPs Novas soon falling victim to overcrowding.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 4 жыл бұрын
@@neilcrawford8303 Stop press - talk today of re-nationalising the Northern franchise. I'll believe it when I see it.
@neilcrawford8303
@neilcrawford8303 4 жыл бұрын
@@borderlands6606 Yes, I saw that too on the TV. There was also an item on the BBCs news website. They are already looking at contingency plans. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks and months.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 4 жыл бұрын
@@neilcrawford8303 The service is appalling, my wife uses it daily. Rolling stock and infrastructure are at breaking point, and the ticket prices an insult.
@MrGriser
@MrGriser 4 жыл бұрын
117's last ran on the GOBLIN line on 4th February 2000
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr G, i can't recall when the DMU's finally finished on their but i know it was quite late for first gen DMUs (Chilterns bubbles excepted).
@mikefreeman3641
@mikefreeman3641 4 жыл бұрын
I was working upstairs in the Booking office at Barking in 1990.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
A very busy one from what i remember of it. Which is more than the others were on the route. In the mid 80s they were still open and issued those pink square tickets from bus conductor style of machines (as did Broad Street) although APTIS did arrive by the late 80s. But i think by the early 90s the booking offices all closed and guards went around to do tickets.
@johnpiper3416
@johnpiper3416 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as ever. It has to be said, that line run`s through shit holes from end to end. I would not want to take a camera near any of the location`s day or night.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Back when i was filming Woodgrange Park was quite safe. It was very quiet and i used to hover at the end of the platform opposite the signal box. An added bonus was your could hear the bell codes in the box and know something was about!
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 4 жыл бұрын
Where does the spur at 1:40 with the guard's van lead to?
@davidrogers891
@davidrogers891 4 жыл бұрын
dont remember it in the 60's maybe put in to serve the A406 building
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidrogers891 It has been there for a very long time, pre late 1950s (the Underground cabel run goes up & over it and this area was rebuilt in the mid to late 50s) as it lead into a chemical works. In the 1970s the connection was unused and i seem to recall being taken out. In the 1980s the works closed and eventually the land was sold for housing. Because the land was so contaminated the whole site had to be dug down 6 meters and the old spoil removed and new brought in. This is when the spur was put back in for a couple of years. I have vid of pairs of 37s with Yeoman wagons passing through Woodgrange Park on this working.
@djtrainspotter
@djtrainspotter 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Ha yes i'd love to see that, SF FAGS pool 37's on boxes from Acton wasn't it sir? . . I dont know when it stopped operating. Think she drove em aswell :)
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@djtrainspotter Not sure what depot worked the trains. It wasn't Acton as it didn't open until early 1994 when they split Old oak up ready for privitisation. Could well have been Old Oak crews in the freight link i suppose......
@djtrainspotter
@djtrainspotter 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Ah yes indeed. I wonder where it originated then, interesting! I recall seeing published pic in '89, think it was Acton Wells Jnc, might of been a portion or run-round at yard, i might be wrong tho sir! Needs investigating eh hehe.
@TheMisterB2u
@TheMisterB2u Жыл бұрын
Banner repeater for Leytonstone High Rd home signal is 45° the wrong side! Should be \ position not / .I worked that signalbox in 1977 .
@neilcollins9020
@neilcollins9020 9 ай бұрын
Super limehouse
@danwoodhouse9290
@danwoodhouse9290 4 жыл бұрын
1:38 what was that diversion to the right about - never seen that before
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Someone else asked that question, here's the answer i gave them ....... It has been there for a very long time, pre late 1950s (the Underground cabel run goes up & over it and this area was rebuilt in the mid to late 50s) as it lead into a chemical works. In the 1970s the connection was unused and i seem to recall being taken out. In the 1980s the works closed and eventually the land was sold for housing. Because the land was so contaminated the whole site had to be dug down 6 meters and the old spoil removed and new brought in. This is when the spur was put back in for a couple of years. I have vid of pairs of 37s with Yeoman wagons passing through Woodgrange Park on this working.
@oludotunjohnshowemimo434
@oludotunjohnshowemimo434 4 жыл бұрын
That was proper annoying with the Hammersmith and City line C Stock all the way down to the end from the stairs back then wallkng all the way down there. The Metropolitan line Hammersmith to Barking had just become the Hammersmith and City line by this time.
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Sad, as this line was part of the original Metropolian line from 1863!
@theBusManiac
@theBusManiac Жыл бұрын
Why get a copyright strike on macs tracks version of the video? I watched them both. They are both different yours is sharper and has bird crap on the window. Do you own the tracks or something?
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Жыл бұрын
KZfaq spot and compare.... around half the disputed vid was a direct copy, the second time he has been caught. Instead of uploading other peoples films (i too have some of those cab ride VHS tapes from the 1980s, there were plenty sold at the time) why doesn't he make his own films, he can't go wrong then can he? All you need is a mobile phone and your in business, i wonder why he doesn't?......
@theBusManiac
@theBusManiac Жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I put one on my phone and one on my tablet and watched them simultaneously. One was slightly faster than the other, different trains passed at different times in different colours. It's time to go to specsavers if you can't even tell the difference between your own videos and train liveries etc. Also how can anyone film a 1990 dmu on their phone now?
@AndyWrightTravel
@AndyWrightTravel 4 жыл бұрын
in soi buakhao right now watching this vid
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you! Nice and warm, great Thai food, a few cool beers and perhaps some local lovely for a bit of company??? lol,.... enjoy!
@snubby4624
@snubby4624 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus I thought that was you're actual name 😂
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 3 жыл бұрын
@@snubby4624 Just a KZfaq name........lol
@snubby4624
@snubby4624 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 😂
@jess.hawkins
@jess.hawkins 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, although the line looks more run down in this footage than it is now, my my: there are buildings at Leytonstone High Road! Hard to believe now...
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
And a footbridge at Woodgrange Park, since removed, you now use the pavement outside to cross. Add in signal boxes and the siganlling, just about all seen on this vid is now history.....
@jess.hawkins
@jess.hawkins 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yep, I used this line in the early and then the late 2000s, Woodgrange Park is a station I know quite well, although I only knew it during Silverlink and London Overground years, don't think I was alive before the resignalling! Really cool to see the service siding at Barking -for the CEGB or a Gasworks I think?
@jess.hawkins
@jess.hawkins 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Something else that I've always been very conscious of at Woodgrange, is how close the OHLE is to passengers on the platform. Of course, it has to be low enough to squeeze under the bridge carrying Romford Road, which it barely manages with what looks like an insulating mat on the bridge roof, but I've stood many-a-time on that platform, looked at the contact wire and thought to myself "no way is that thing 3m or more away from my head, I'd better not hold an umbrella near the platform edge on a wet day!"
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus
@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus 4 жыл бұрын
@@jess.hawkins I've heard the over-heads crackling on a wet day along the LTS line when on the District platforms at Dagenham East. When i used to stand in the cab doorway of a class 37 diesel under the wires i was even nearer, i'm sure less than 9 foot!
@jess.hawkins
@jess.hawkins 4 жыл бұрын
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus Yeah, I've definitely heard the wires crackling at Woodgrange on a wet day! A mate and I once had a theory that if the a diesel train can "survive" being much closer to the wires (they're big and made of metal), it's probably fine, but it's sure not 3 metres, nor even 9 feet..!
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