The thing about most religions is this -> When there are no constraints then anything is permitted. This is why religion is so easy and science is so hard. Science's constraint is reality and religion doesn't share this shackle so its free to make it up as it goes.

John 14:12 "Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these..." Like that ever happened. He even said VERY truly. Broken promise again.

For a true believer, cognitive dissonance will take care of contradictions. They will rationalize because the bible is infallible!

Paul didn't see any point in his followers getting married as he was sure that the second was coming real soon, then he started getting complaints that some of the brethren were dying of old age and still no second coming.

Thank you for the Podcast! I too am an escapee from the Church of Christ non-institutional and a fellow Floridian! I just bought Mark's book and am reading it now. This is great information to add to my arsenal of "why the Bible is fiction" in case anyone ever asks. Since my deconversion no one has.

Love a man who shows up to a podcast with a tie.

This is blowing my mind... An x jw myself, I am heavily leaning toward atheism after much research and reading as of late, (but don’t need to define myself as of now), this is just more info that I LOVE and DIDNT KNOW I NEEDED, Getting this book Broken Promises...ASAP Thank you gentlemen💖

The denial of these people believing that their god is good in the bible is like me denying that my ex gf was talking to other guys, we deny the truth because we just couldn't accept it, and that's why I'm now a proud atheist, because I stopped lying to myself and I felt better soon after.

It is difficult to leave religion or anything that you have spent so much time believing. No one wants to be wrong. Carl Sagan said this -- “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been (taken.)so credulous. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.)”

I lost my closest friend last month just mentioning this lightly. She melted down and threw me out of her house. Never seen her act like that in all these years.

Jesus already came back. I work with him at the factory. Jesus Rodriguez !

Jesus was supposed to return within a generation of his death. He told some people standing next to him some of them wouldn't taste death before his second coming( Matthew16:27-28).

I love Paul's (assuming it's him) excuses when asked why Jesus was taking so long to return.

Man this is a great channel, i wish people had more interest in this kind of intellectual debates rather than pointless youtube channels, content creators of this type will usually get discouraged to continue posting but please do not give up.

I’ve seen a few of your videos I really enjoyed them, it’s good knowing others are in the same spot with all this, I’ve spent at least 12 years give or take studying christianity for at least 6 years I believed it fully and was also on my way to be a preacher or teacher. But after running past some problems with the New Testament I started to change my mind, it wasn’t a fast change it took another 6 years of studying and really seeking the lord but I had to be honest with my self and others. The hardest part was hurting the other people that thought of me as someone who was near to God, I could have just lied to others to keep them from getting hurt and I would have a pretty good job but something inside me wouldn’t allow it. As of now I have went over every piece of evidence for Christianity so there’s nothing else to go over and I highly don’t want to waist more time doing so, so thanks for doing theses videos I believe if someone wants to be a Christian they need to take a New Testament class, or studying the heck out of the Bible and history of christianity than I believe they wouldn’t join and get hurt in the end.

Look, Jesus has to run errands, tie up administrative loose ends, prepare his wardrobe, etc. This takes time.

Jesus has to show up for a first time before we can even start talking about a *Second* Coming, haha.

I could had written this book, From the beginning of my 23 years of being a pastor I had to deal with this topic first hand. And became a pre preterism and looked on to full preterism and when I give up on it 2 years ago....then the clarity finally came to me. The promises never accomplished

2000 years of "any day now!"

I don't get it. If Jesus didn't come back, who's that dude in Australia?

RC Sproul taught that Jesus returned in AD70 in the form of the Roman army to destroy the temple. Futurists teach that “this generation “ shall not pass away…. And that generation refers to “type, kind, the Jewish people as a whole”. Researching all I could on those points of view, left me unsatisfied and unable to believe all the explanations people tried to give me. My faith unraveled from the escatalogical end forward.

There is--and has been for years--a crying need for Smith’s book. The first I heard of it was when Derek plugged it in a previous podcast. I bought the ebook straightaway and devoured it. I fully agree with Derek when he says the book is "more exhaustive than any of the material I've seen on the topic"; and yes, the book does indeed destroy the doctrine of the Second Coming, as he went on to state. My realization that Jesus was a failed doomsday prophet some 20 years ago was when I washed my hands of Catholicism and of all Christianity and became an agnostic-atheist. (I had other objections, of course, but that realization was the last and biggest straw.) I've never looked back, nor is there any possibility I'd ever return to it. In this podcast Smith stated (18:50) that Matthew 24:34 is "the first clue" of Jesus's status as a failed doomsday prophet, which surprised me. Isn't the first clue found in Mark, the first of the Gospels? The very first words out of Jesus's mouth there are: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand . . ." (1:14). Curiously, this verse isn't discussed in his book, either. He only discuss Mark 9:1 and 13:1-37. At 1:03:35 Smith stated that if Jesus was indeed a false prophet, then this means "an entire worldview change" for Christians, involving such painful possibilities as divorce, job loss, shunning by friends and relations, etc. That's certainly true. But what's more basic and demands even greater emphasis is that if Jesus was a false prophet, then it follows necessarily that he was not God incarnate, he was not the savior of the world sent to right Adam's wrong, and he sure as shit didn't rise from the dead. Smith rightly hammers home so much else in his book, why this isn't even stated so much as once is a disappointing omission. A couple of minor criticisms: First, though Smith rightly pointed out that 2 Peter is a forgery, he failed to say the same of 2 Thessalonians (both in this podcast and in his book), an epistle which is also practically unanimously regarded as inauthentic, though it's certainly relevant to Smith's argument.. Second, Smith made a point of emphasizing (18:50) that in Matthew 24:34, Jesus uses the word "truly," not once but twice. In fact, he only says it once.

Really excellent points...."For the Son of Man is about *to come [mello] in the glory* of his Father with His angels; and will recompense every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom. [Mat 16:27-28] The Markan version is even more instructive: For whoever is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when *he comes in the glory* of his Father with the holy angels. And he was saying to them, Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who shall not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power. [Mk 8:38-9:1] To "come in power" is an expression that has special importance for the apocalyptists, like the authors of Daniel, the Apocalypse of John, 4 Ezra, and 2 Baruch. It denotes a TOTAL alteration of time and the earth, and an end to normal history. I think the CS Lewis quote was something like, Jesus was "was omniscient as God, and ignorant as Man."

Excellent show. Good job on presenting Derek and great topic with knowledgeable guest. Way to go both of you!

and they are still waiting...........for ever and ever amen....

Former baptist here. But dude, I love your channel. Ty

I am a big supporter of Don Preston. I told him about this discussion with Mr Smith. He is more than willing to come on Mythvision. I know he would be an excellent guest. Many who see the fundamental honesty of preterism in dealing with Eschatology still have problems. I believe it is because many who come to see the issues surrounding 70 AD come to see that several espousing either full or partial [mainly] preterism retain many of the beliefs of the church they still support. Preterism is not a “church” but rather a belief system. The implications of full preterism change how one looks at many things.

"And so castles made of sand ... fall in the sea .. eventually" (JH)

He said this generation shall not pass

Jesus is definitely still coming in my opinion. I don’t want to spread my belief but I respect everyone’s belief. I found this book very interesting even though I’m still a Christian

Not only The Jesus of the bible is a fictional character ...The Book of Revelation in the New Testament is a plagiarism of the Sibylline Prophecies about a different god (Osiris) and another time (6th Century BCE) Sibylline's second book begins in the first chapter on Revelation (1:7) and the first copies of Revelations did not name Jesus

That was so interesting. I love to hear Derek "jab in" his thoughts ;)

Awesome interview, great guest!

Early access is the best!

Thanks for helping to solidify the liberation from fables Derek. Science bless youuuu 🧠❤️.

Man I did the same journey. Studied the return of christ. Couldn't make sense of the futuristic view, went over to preterism but had to admit, I was not a christian anymore. No choice where made, it was just a revelation (pun intended).

I went to church as a kid with my family, a Pentecostal church. I didn't like it and felt it ruined my life in a way and helped in another. We went to church 5 days a week. I asked the tough questions cause a lot of things didn't make sense to me. As i got older i stop going but then a few years later i started going again thru an invitation but with no interest. I kept going in and out. When i was 19 i spoke in tongues in my house, not in church like i saw with others. I saw my mom go thru it but she barely went to church at that point cause she had bad legs. It felt incredible but i didn't jump like the people in church nor shouted loud, I just spoke in tongues thru the Holy Spirit. I didn't understand what i was saying, still don't know. I'm 52 now and even thou i had that experience i still don't want to go to church. I feel conflicted with what i learned over the years and learning things from Egypt, the Anunnaki which makes the most sense to me. and all these things that don't make sense in the bible. I'm no longer religious, I consider myself Spiritual. I experienced the holy spirit and my question is, does the holy spirit come from something else? I ask because it looks like Christianity piggy backed from other Ancient Cultures. It conflicts me, confuses me. I read how the Conquistadors tortured people in the name of Jesus, how his real name is Yoshua and the J didn't exist in those days. the winters Solstice connection, how the bible was created and how everything is based on the Zodiac and i never saw the blind see again, or people healed in Jesus name. I do agree with Author of Broken Promises. I do think the book of revelation's has to do with the past. I also at one point did put things to the side because of people preaching that Jesus was coming. That was in the 90s and here we are in 2023. I know i wrote a lot but i tried to make it as short as i could.

Best podcast in the right time! Everyone still saying end is near dude to events in Israel now

I've always wanted more clarity on this topic. Great interview. I'll be purchasing the book!

The reason why the 2nd coming hasn't happened, is because for the last 2,000 years, we have been so good!

Ask Jehovah's Witnesses. They were waiting for his Second Coming to be 1914. But they kept revising as Jesus failed to show up as they believed. Finally they found a solution claiming that He actually did come but not visibly.

Though there's recognition that "futurists" are driven by preconceived ideas, this conversation is heavily influenced by futurist preconceptions of the "second coming".

if Jesus came back he would have to wear 3 masks and take two life saving jabs , or take a space shuttle back to mars

Great interview!!!

When I first heard the word preterist I did a double take because I thought he said pederast. I wasn't familiar with the term before watching the video. Very informative.

Reverend Jesse Duplantis says that he (Jesus) is still saying, 'Go tell my people I'm coming.' From the video and book,"Close Encounters of the God Kind."

1. Why does God use time-restricted statements about the fulfillment of prophecy if He didn’t mean it-such as: must shortly take place/near/soon (Revelation 1:1-3; 22:6-20), it is the last hour (1 John 2:18), this generation (Matthew 23:29-24:2; 24:34), etc.? Can God tell time? Is He the author of confusion? 2. When were these Second Coming passages fulfilled: Matthew 10:23 “before the disciples had finished going through the towns of Israel” and Matthew 16:27-28 “before some standing there died?” How about Hebrews 10:37 “in a very, very little while?” Can you name even 5 Second Coming passages that don’t have a time restriction implied? 3. If “soon” (Revelation 1:1-3; 22:6-20) means thousands of years later, does that mean it was going to take Timothy thousands of years to be sent to the Philippians by Paul (Philippians 2:19)? If “soon” means thousands of years later, why do we see it qualified with “must shortly take place” in the same passages? 4. If the teaching that one day is as a 1,000 years, and a 1,000 years is as a day to the Lord. . . does that mean the 1,000 years are a single 24 hour day (2 Peter 3; Revelation 20)? Does that mean that Jesus was in the grave 3,000 years? 5. If Revelation was written after AD 70, why is the temple mentioned in Revelation 11:1 as still standing? And why does Revelation 17:10 say that it was being written during the reign of the 6th king, who was Nero who died in AD 68? 6. If the Great Tribulation is still future to us, why did Jesus tell the first century Christians that they could avoid it by fleeing to the mountains (Matthew 24:16; 21)? And why did the Apostle John tell his readers a few years later that THEY were in the tribulation (Revelation 1:9)? If these prophecies were to be fulfilled thousands of years later, why did Jesus proclaim that his generation marked the Days of Vengeance to “fulfill ALL that is written” (Luke 21:22)? 7. Does any mention of the “last days” or equivalent (last times, last hour) in the New Testament clearly refer to any time outside of the first century (Acts 2:17; 2 Timothy 3:1; Hebrews 1:2; James 5:3; 1 Peter 1:20; 2 Peter 3:3; Jude 18; 1 John 2:18)? 8. If the biblical “last days” started in the first century, but continue to this day, why did Peter say the end of all things was AT HAND (1 Peter 4:7, 17) and John said it was THE LAST HOUR (1 John 2:18)? 9. If “this generation” of Matthew 24:34 means a far distant generation, do any other “this generation” passages outside of the Olivet Discourse in the New Testament refer to a time other than that of Jesus’ contemporaries (Matthew 11:16-24; 12:38-45; 16:4; 17:17; 23:35-36; Mark 8:12; 8:38-9:1; 9:19, and Luke 7:31; 9:41; 11:29-32, 49-51; 17:25; Acts 2:40)? 10. If Jesus was to return in a physical, visible appearance to the whole world, why did He tell his first-century disciples (John 14:19) that the world would never see him again?

The only thing is there isn't a single prophet that wrote that the messiah would come to his temple the first time

Was literally having a convo with my sister about THIS today. 😆

Very good interview.

We must stop saying Jesus did this,Jesus said that.It's still the claims of the authors unknown, none eye wickness not Jesus,real or not.

Well done.

The story of Close Encounters of the God Kind video by Reverend Jesse Duplantis shows that what apostle Paul wrote he wouldn't have written unless it's true about the rapture

The term one day as a thousand years actually is a quote from the book of plsams

Marc is so cool, really loved this. He's such a genuine guy.

Pre 1975 , starting in 1968 Jw's sold homes ,cashed in pensions went pioneering, Membership climbed even in tiny Rhodesia. I know several guys my age who out and out destitute. (Does the WT look after them.No.)

The messenger that is written in Malachi 3:1 verse was supposedly John the Baptist but John the Baptist denied being the Elijah that was sent before the messiah

How the heck did Christianity survive if during the 1st century these things did not occur?

Something to think about… Matt. 28:20 (ESV) …I am with you always, to the end of the age.

The cult would have faded with its abuses if not for European monarchy demanding it being upheld, forcing upon death for not.

I'm a man of sin. I live in the town of Temple. I am currently sitting. Checkmate, praeterists.

I have been looking at this recently. Thanks.

Derek, how does one contact you?

Just bought this book, looking forward to it!

I like mark,he seems so cool.but I must say,these podcasts are so detailed and deep,I love it,and does mark have a KZfaq channel?

Great discussion! And by the way...you have at least one church that does not encourage to marry or have children. The Jehovah's Witnesses! If you marry, well, that's ok. But you do better if you do not because then you can serve Jehova more fully...you can dedicate all your spare time to your service. And Noah and his family are an example for the Witnesses: they did not have any children according to the Bible. They focused on doing God's will and building the arch. Some Jehovah's Witnesses are even afraid or ashamed of telling they are expecting! I was told, that now is not the time to have children! I should focus on preaching :)

Is it helpful to point out that the gospels were written 40 years after the supposed events in them?

Hello from Greece! I have a question concerning the interpretation of the Greek verb μέλλω (mello) The common interpretation of the verb in modern and biblical Greek is “to be about to” So, generally speaking describes intention to, future (actually the future in Greek is: το μέλλον, to mellon), and some times paradoxically and in relationship to the text, it can be used even to indicate delay. However, I don’t think that we can interpret it by itself as: soon. Now, the word ταχύς (tahis in modern Greek pronunciation) is definitely translated as fast or soon, or shortly, or quickly. (Page 7 of the book) So, am I missing something in the interpretation of the verb μέλλω? Thanks for the wonderful MythVision!

Excellent!

Thanks again!! For this interview!! Mark Smith is awesome, book on its way!

"The Last Day" means the last day of YOUR life, not the "End of the World." Nowhere does it say Jesus is coming back at the end of the World. Jesus comes for you when YOU die if you belong to Him. Pastors automatically read the "end of the World" into this even though Jesus never said this!

Who. Was that favourite disciple of Jesus who ran to the tomb and also the other disciples don't take his name. Also Jesus mentions about him that he will not die until jesus comes back again

The solution to end all confusion and shut the mouth of all who think they are wise and teachers of the truth ....will be demonstrated through power and authority NOT JUST WITH EMPTY WORTHLESS AND POWERLESS WORDS AS MEN MEN SPEAK WITH .

Religious would rather say we can't understand god's mind than just say it is mythology, bunk to the real world.

Great book and wonderful insights... and he's RIGHT! That is, right up to his conclusion: "If Jesus actually was a false prophet, which is the point of my book, using his own words to convict him..." - Mark A. Smith (1:03:35) And right there we find the fatal flaw in what is an otherwise wonderfully insightful and even quite brilliant effort on Mark's part: Assuming the Gospels are historical transcripts. Very little if any of what we find in the New Testament are His "own words"! Instead, they are the adulterated words placed in Yeshua's (Jesus') mouth by certain men falsely claiming to have been His "apostles" so as to justify their founding and leading a religion He never started... and then further twisted out of context by Saul(Paul) to promote HIS even more grandiose adulterated version of THEIR false religion. Sadly, who and what the historical Yeshua was ... has never been realized, never understood. Thus, neither has His real "Second Coming" that did indeed occur in the 1st Century and exactly as He stated it would. Yeshua came NOT as a "doomsday prophet," nor the "Messiah," much less as any sort of worldwide "Savior"... but, instead, as the literal "Son of God" (a la Genesis 6:1-4) and for an entirely different mission and purpose than what the "apostles" fabricated to justify founding and leading a new religion with THEM at its head. Yeshua's mission was very specific and very limited... as He so stated (one of the few passages that actually ring true given it so contradicts all the later statements falsely placed in His mouth), that He came not to the World nor even to the Jews, in general... but instead ONLY to "the lost sheep of the House of Israel" to gather them together one LAST TIME... and lead them out of Israel as its FINAL HARVEST prior to the destruction of Israel that occurred ca. 70 CE. And that is exactly what He did. Yeshua "failed" only in that He did not fulfill all the FALSE claims made by the "apostles" regarding Him... while instead perfectly fulfilling all His own actual pronouncements and prophecies regarding a very specific Bloodline for which purpose Israel, itself, had been created to protect and nurture... of which Bloodline Yeshua was, Himself, also part. Following His crucifixion, which He survived thanks to the assistance of some of His TRUE disciples (yes, the women)... which crucifixion was made necessary to reveal the "apostles" as the true "wolves in sheep's clothing" they were and, thus, leave them behind (pure genius on Yeshua's part)... He then returned a SECOND TIME back to Galilee, just as He had told His disciples He would... where all His true "flock" (those same "lost sheep" of Israel) were assembled awaiting that very return, the "return of the Bridegroom"... having "sold all that (they) had" in preparation. And when He arrived, "like a thief in the night" as the "apostles" remained in Jerusalem that weekend... Yeshua and His TRUE flock... that "final harvest"... quietly departed north out of Israel. And from that point on, we hear no more of Mary Magdalene nor Salome... nor any others of all who previously had truly followed Yeshua and ministered to Him throughout His "ministry." Only when you decipher who and what those "Lost Sheep of the House of Israel" were and still are will you also finally unravel what the false "apostles" never did: Exactly what the "Mystery of the Kingdom of God" on Earth is... and exactly who and what the historical Yeshua was. A great book and well researched... right up to its unfortunate conclusions for having been founded on a very common, very understandable -- yet also very false premise.

Bro, John isnt the author of "gospel of john"

First of all you must understand this, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own passions and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning of creation.” They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago, and an earth formed out of water and by means of water, through which the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished. But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

I need an audio version of his book.

Good point Kevin!

Jesus spoke not of himself as the man, but of the conscious awareness of his oneness in creation... the second coming is of yourself when you die to your carnal thinking and become one in the spirit of all creation, and so you shall be born again, an awakening of yourself as you were in the beginning.

The perpetual cliffhanger culture. People are always expecting Jesus to come so they don’t have to experience death. Unfortunately people keep falling off the cliff unfulfilled. Well, there are enough mistakes to spread around, but the problem is the first person in the chain of fidelity is least likely to have made mistakes, given that if that first person makes a mistake, NT he probability that a later story teller makes a mistake that replaces the first mistake. Bart Erhman does not actually give anything of what Jesus said as actually being historical, so the we are left with estimating some probability of what Jesus said. Mark is correct concerning the fate of Jeruselum. Josephus certainly was not an unbiased source of information, but on the account of the death of James the Just, he describes the assailant as a bold man with an ill temper. The same Anunus goes on to become the religious leader of the rebels in the Roman Jewish war. IMO, it was not the crucifixion of Jesus, which I think Jesus and his immediate followers had factored into what would happen, but the execution of James and the a Jewish-Roman war that was the basis for anti-Jewish writings in the New Testament. One interpretation was the throwing of James ‘story’ is the abomination that causes Yahweh to abandon the temple and the Jews in the minds of Christians (I would call the Jesus following Jews, but by this time it’s pretty clear the the Jewish parse is decimated and mostly non Israeli and/or Gentile followers are what remain. Did Jesus make a mistake or did the writer of Matthew make a mistake. Here is the basic problem that I have, this is the three body system in which Christianity is a small little asteroid being tossed around as it circles the Sun. Judaism is like Mars and Grecoroman paganism is like Jupiter and it’s many moons. But somehow, in this three body system the unimaginable happens, Jupiter and manages to slam into Mars breaking it into 1000 pieces, which then over time causes the asteroid to grow and the asteroid slams into Jupiter and breaks it into pieces and assume the orbit of the asteroid. So let’s break down what happens. The Roman empires Pax Romana was a force of nature, while largely beneficial its wake created things like King Herod, whose authority the Romans did not question except in the obedience to the Roman (literally appointed by Roman legislators) contracts. The governing body of Rome had a history of abuses which created instability in the peninsula, but as long as the empire prospered . . .. The problem is the outlying territories. While we can question the validity of John the Baptist critique, the Jews were growing impatient with Roman rule. Consequently sectarian visions of the end-days, i.e. the departure of the Roman Empire, became more prevalent. Anunius was a sadducee, orthodox, and this was apparently not a Jesus version of a messianic figure, and ultimately not anyone’s. Jesus believed that son of man would be escorted by a messianic figure who would overthrow the infidels and restore the kingdom of god, and naturally he would be the leader. Obviously by the time he reaches Jeruselum his fate would be changed. So I think in this respect, yes, Jesus was in error, but the error may have been equating beliefs in the Galilee region with beliefs in Jerusalem. It may have come with the recognition that the Jews in Israel are too far gone to reconstitute the kingdom, or at least the leadership. Again I don’t think he or James saw what was coming in Jerusalem, if they did they certainly have gotten the followers there they hell out of Dodge’ in 61 AD. So, I think he and his disciples tried to alter their focus on being a leaderless spiritual movement within the diaspora. Again John was the original leader, he was executed by basically another Jewish leader, then a Jesus became the target and he was handed over by the Sanhedrin, and finally James was executed by an ill-tempered Naer do well. The asteroid is thrown from its orbit 3 times and yet survives in its orbit and yet what follows defies rational explanation. So how then does this become the largest belief system in the world. A very strange Jew has a very strange vision on the side of the road, makes a lot of foolish mistakes, probably does a few things that gets James killed, is despised by Peter and John/Mark, but within about 20 years has solidified the foundations of a religious movement that eventually takes over the Roman Empire, Jupiter falls into the orbit of the dinky asteroid. That’s the problem I have, in the effort to destroy the dinky Jesus followers, which they effectively do creating a self destructive wake; it’s almost as if, yes, Jesus did not take out the Romans or the Sanhedrin as he imagined. Instead, they took him out thrice over and then destroyed themselves, whoopsie, and some variant Jesus body loaded with BS myths comes in and takes over. Somewhere buried under all the various faux pas is the real Jesus. I am still curious what this celestial jester really had to say. If a man had faith as small as a mustard seed . . . . .Constantine, Trinities, Canon, Orthodoxy, Reformation, Enlightenment . . . must have been a better way to go about this.

Meaning that the rapture isn't true if what apostle Paul wrote is the opposite of what Jesus said, 'Tell my people I'm coming.'

Jesus said, "occupy until I come" - this might explain why futurist churches today still do weddings, it spite of their belief that Jesus is coming soon!

The verse of Matthew 11:14 verse wasn't based on what was written on in Malachi 3:1 verse unless it was written on about the messiah

"It says that but it actually means this". That just sounds like being wrong but with extra steps.

Could you argue against preterism? I didn't hear anything against the prophecies in Mt 24.

In the next to last verse In the New Testament (Rev. 22:20) Jesus said he would come "quickly." I don't think he knew what the word means...

The Second Coming wasn't mentioned on by Malachi or by Isaiah according to what is written on in Isaiah 66 and Malachi 4:5 verses

Does Mark Smith cover partial Preterism at all in the book?

Any day now

did any of you watch the interview with AJ Miller?

I get you're enthused about the content but I encourage you to watch back the video and consider how many cups of coffee you had prior to the interview. :-) It seemed like the first 40+ minutes your did 80% of the speaking. I appreciated being provided the definitions (Preterist / Futurist) as I was raised an agnostic atheist and Christian vocab is not embedded in my lexicon. My suggestion is to ask your guest the questions and have them fill in the blanks. Openers might have been: Who are you? What are your credentials? Did you de-convert? What was your personal Christain history? How did you come to write your book? How is your book structured / chapters organized? etc. And let the other person do 80% of the talking. Do I have a channel? No. Is this hypocrisy on my part? idk Generally, I enjoy your content and I encourage you to do more with perhaps taking my suggestions into consideration. I wish you the best in the future ... Although my 'wishes' are meaningless as an atheist, but hopefully you can embrace my use of the vernacular in this regard. LOL

How disappointing it would be to buy this guys book thinking you were purchasing a book by Mark S. Smith! I’d be pissed!

Derek? @mythvison When is our next podcast?

Jesus overslept

couldn't you use the apologist the day or the hour Angela or the Son of man don't know? Only the father knows. It's week argument but it was what I used to argue for Jesus when I was Christian.

In my Last Congregation and I believe it is typical 85-90% were born in, apparently 63% of Born ins leave

All you people watching this need to remind yourselves that you’re watching it on a social media platform. Who designed this platform? To what end ? It didn’t drop out of the sky. It wasn’t found in the woods.

I was always told the Greek word was indicating that he would return before the Jewish “race” ended,. I’ll have to look up “milo” and compare.

Malachi 3:1 verse was quoted supposedly by Jesus about the Lord coming to his temple but the only thing is the temple wasn't the temple of the messiah because Jesus said that it wasn't a house of prayer for the messiah but the house of prayer of God's